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Post by SwobyJ on Oct 14, 2017 21:48:59 GMT
This seems at least mostly plausible. Some parts less so. I would consider playing an original game based on this summary. The devil is always in the details, of course. They probably wouldn't make the mistakes they did last time they tried the "smaller scale, personal story" concept (DA2). I feel cautious about the idea of the sexuality toggle. If it only turned off homosexual flirt options, that might not be so bad. Hopefully it wouldn't turn gay characters into straight (or blandly ambiguous) characters just so people who select the hetero choice wouldn't encounter a homosexual ever. I am perturbed by the human-locked race and background. It probably makes the story easier to tell, like it would be hard to justify the minor nobility position for an elf, dwarf, or Kunari in a society with such a rigid caste system or whatever, but it takes some of the rpg-ness out of it when you can't select a nonhuman or an economically disadvantaged origin or whatever. I hope you mean the conversation wheel, not a NPC happening to flirt with the protagonist (so perhaps the option spot for flirting gets replaced with a friendly return that includes communicating that they're not interested in the same way back). I wanted to play Qunari in DA4.
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Post by LogicGunn on Oct 14, 2017 22:19:44 GMT
I'm not really all the into rumours, esp early in dev cause even if they're real a lot can change before release, but if any of it is even vaguely accurate it could be the making of a damn good DA game.
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Post by Hudson on Oct 14, 2017 23:15:09 GMT
the only human angle would be disappointing in my opinion, In DA:I I have yet to make a human, I really really want to play Qunari and Dwarves. less final fantasy weapon design is very very good though.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Oct 15, 2017 4:04:07 GMT
This seems at least mostly plausible. Some parts less so. I would consider playing an original game based on this summary. The devil is always in the details, of course. They probably wouldn't make the mistakes they did last time they tried the "smaller scale, personal story" concept (DA2). I feel cautious about the idea of the sexuality toggle. If it only turned off homosexual flirt options, that might not be so bad. Hopefully it wouldn't turn gay characters into straight (or blandly ambiguous) characters just so people who select the hetero choice wouldn't encounter a homosexual ever. I am perturbed by the human-locked race and background. It probably makes the story easier to tell, like it would be hard to justify the minor nobility position for an elf, dwarf, or Kunari in a society with such a rigid caste system or whatever, but it takes some of the rpg-ness out of it when you can't select a nonhuman or an economically disadvantaged origin or whatever. I hope you mean the conversation wheel, not a NPC happening to flirt with the protagonist (so perhaps the option spot for flirting gets replaced with a friendly return that includes communicating that they're not interested in the same way back). I wanted to play Qunari in DA4. Yes, that is what I mean.
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Post by MrR40 on Oct 15, 2017 4:38:47 GMT
Reading this gave me mixed feelings. If this leaked info is (partially) genuine, I wonder where Mike Laidlaw drew the line and said " I'm out. ". Assuming the reason was due to creative disagreements somehow.
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Post by danaxe on Oct 16, 2017 14:42:38 GMT
Wether people like the contents of the leak or not, I'm inclined to believe this is true. Most of Bioware games have had a huge leak a couple years before release. It's starting to look more like marketing than true "leaks". They let this out cause they know only those interested in the game will ever find it (I mean who else besides fans are looking for information about a game that hasnt even had an official release date announced, let alone real information released that might interest new players), and they use the reactions to it to evaluate what they need to rethink seriously.
With that in mind, now is probably a good time to get over the enragement, and voice our honest opinions about what we like about it and what we dislike.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 16, 2017 14:52:24 GMT
Wether people like the contents of the leak or not, I'm inclined to believe this is true. Most of Bioware games have had a huge leak a couple years before release. It's starting to look more like marketing than true "leaks". They let this out cause they know only those interested in the game will ever find it (I mean who else besides fans are looking for information about a game that hasnt even had an official release date announced, let alone real information released that might interest new players), and they use the reactions to it to evaluate what they need to rethink seriously. With that in mind, now is probably a good time to get over the enragement, and voice our honest opinions about what we like about it and what we dislike. Problem is that previous leaks were something else - they were portions of surveys or leaked videos. This is just someone on 4-chan furiously typing stuff, as if trying to remember contents of a wacky dream. Plus, we already had some devs here and there being all 'yeah guys.. it's fake', when I don't recall them denouncing anything from leaks that turned out to be based on something true. Also - because some leaks look like they're intentional, Internet's caught on this and now we also have a rash of false leaks and rumors.
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Post by danaxe on Oct 16, 2017 14:58:45 GMT
Problem is that previous leaks were something else - they were portions of surveys or leaked videos. This is just someone on 4-chan furiously typing stuff, as if trying to remember contents of a wacky dream. Plus, we already had some devs here and there being all 'yeah guys.. it's fake', when I don't recall them denouncing anything from leaks that turned out to be based on something true. Also - because some leaks look like they're intentional, Internet's caught on this and now we also have a rash of false leaks and rumors. Makes sense. Either way, it doesnt hurt if people voice their opinions about this leak, cause then devs can still use the feedback to a fake leak to know what fans DONT want to see
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 16, 2017 15:02:24 GMT
Problem is that previous leaks were something else - they were portions of surveys or leaked videos. This is just someone on 4-chan furiously typing stuff, as if trying to remember contents of a wacky dream. Plus, we already had some devs here and there being all 'yeah guys.. it's fake', when I don't recall them denouncing anything from leaks that turned out to be based on something true. Also - because some leaks look like they're intentional, Internet's caught on this and now we also have a rash of false leaks and rumors. Makes sense. Either way, it doesnt hurt if people voice their opinions about this leak, cause then devs can still use the feedback to a fake leak to know what fans DONT want to see Lol, I suppose. But fans can be very divided on issues of what they want or not. And it's really hard to say where they are in terms of development (other than it seems that they've built a larger team a few months ago) and how much of the game is already set in stone enough.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Oct 18, 2017 0:12:47 GMT
Either way, it doesnt hurt if people voice their opinions about this leak, cause then devs can still use the feedback to a fake leak to know what fans DONT want to see It does hurt, because it distracts from more proactive suggestion making, like the DA4 speculation thread, and worse, any attention paid to a hoax just encourages more hoaxers. Already plenty of constructive feedback vehicles, no need to waste time with this fanfic.
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Post by anarchy65 on Oct 18, 2017 0:20:26 GMT
It seems too detailed to be fake, but I wouldn't like it.
First: STOP WITH SISTER/BROTHER THING ALREADY, IT SUCKED ON DA2, IT SUCKED ON ANDROMEDA, WHY WOULD IT BE GOOD NOW? Second: Seriously, where does the Inquisition fits on that? Solas just tries to destroy Minrathous? WTF? Third: No race choice is going backwards. The lack of creativity in Bioware seems to be increasing.
The only thing I liked was the possibility to explore Minrathous and the references to Rome (and the combat being more tactical and DA2 like), but I really hope we don't spend most of our time there, that it's just another city, like Novigrad in TW3.
Oh, and the thing I hate the most: I would rather support a qunari invasion than defending Tevinter.
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Post by naughtynomad on Oct 18, 2017 4:31:34 GMT
It seems too detailed to be fake, but I wouldn't like it. First: STOP WITH SISTER/BROTHER THING ALREADY, IT SUCKED ON DA2, IT SUCKED ON ANDROMEDA, WHY WOULD IT BE GOOD NOW? Second: Seriously, where does the Inquisition fits on that? Solas just tries to destroy Minrathous? WTF? Third: No race choice is going backwards. The lack of creativity in Bioware seems to be increasing. The only thing I liked was the possibility to explore Minrathous and the references to Rome (and the combat being more tactical and DA2 like), but I really hope we don't spend most of our time there, that it's just another city, like Novigrad in TW3. Oh, and the thing I hate the most: I would rather support a qunari invasion than defending Tevinter. I agree on all points. I had enough shoehorning in Inquisition. The main reason this leak is "probably" fake for me is because of the lack of options. A BW game should let you choose which side you want to support. I assumed the Qunari/Tevinter conflict would basically be the new Templar/Mage conflict and choice. This "leak" shoehorns us into being the Tevinter hero. A slave's rise to power is a much more compelling story. I can see a lot of choices making sense from that perspective.
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Post by General Mahad on Oct 21, 2017 18:43:58 GMT
Yes!
As much as I love BioWare’s three or four NPCs standing in a circle and staring in each other’s eyes, this is a welcome addition.
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Post by Avejajed on Oct 23, 2017 22:44:22 GMT
Either way, it doesnt hurt if people voice their opinions about this leak, cause then devs can still use the feedback to a fake leak to know what fans DONT want to see It does hurt, because it distracts from more proactive suggestion making, like the DA4 speculation thread, and worse, any attention paid to a hoax just encourages more hoaxers. Already plenty of constructive feedback vehicles, no need to waste time with this fanfic. I doubt the devs gave more than a cursory glance at this "leak" if at all. They may take fan feedback, but probably not from here, unless Luke taking notes to bring to weekly meetings. 😂
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Post by formerfiend on Oct 24, 2017 8:53:20 GMT
Either way, it doesnt hurt if people voice their opinions about this leak, cause then devs can still use the feedback to a fake leak to know what fans DONT want to see It does hurt, because it distracts from more proactive suggestion making, like the DA4 speculation thread, and worse, any attention paid to a hoax just encourages more hoaxers. Already plenty of constructive feedback vehicles, no need to waste time with this fanfic. I'm personally of the opinion that anyone on this forum who believes that any feedback on this forum is going to affect the development of the series one way or another is kidding themselves.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 24, 2017 13:29:12 GMT
It does hurt, because it distracts from more proactive suggestion making, like the DA4 speculation thread, and worse, any attention paid to a hoax just encourages more hoaxers. Already plenty of constructive feedback vehicles, no need to waste time with this fanfic. I'm personally of the opinion that anyone on this forum who believes that any feedback on this forum is going to affect the development of the series one way or another is kidding themselves. Maybe, but we do indeed have some DA devs sneaking around and having constructive discussion would be a good way to convince them that their time here isn't wasted.
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Post by ames4u on Jun 8, 2018 15:39:54 GMT
Most of this seems like a hoax or fabrication.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 8, 2018 15:52:43 GMT
Most of this seems like a hoax or fabrication. Luke (and Emily in the Twitter Thread) chimed in on this earlier...
I voted for: 'It sounds good but fake af' IF such a game were to exist, it stands to reason that some of those bullets would be true given that they're all within the wheelhouse of a dragonage game. Some of them, on the other hand are are pretty unlikely given how we typically operate. I do enjoy the discussion around some of the points though
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Post by ames4u on Jun 8, 2018 16:07:46 GMT
Most of this seems like a hoax or fabrication. Luke (and Emily in the Twitter Thread) chimed in on this earlier...
I voted for: 'It sounds good but fake af' IF such a game were to exist, it stands to reason that some of those bullets would be true given that they're all within the wheelhouse of a dragonage game. Some of them, on the other hand are are pretty unlikely given how we typically operate. I do enjoy the discussion around some of the points though That is one interesting avatar picture you have there. Reminds me of the singing alligator from All Dogs Go To Heaven.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jun 8, 2018 18:52:43 GMT
Holy necro, batman.
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Post by phoray on Jun 8, 2018 19:02:31 GMT
Holy necro, batman. I thought the same thing. XD
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Post by duckley on Jun 8, 2018 20:12:54 GMT
If true I like everything about this, except that you can only play as a human. I think that's a real step back. I personally am fine playing as a human, but I know this bugs others.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 8, 2018 20:14:37 GMT
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Post by duckley on Jun 8, 2018 20:22:23 GMT
True or not, I have to say I almost wept of joy with the description of Minrathous. If they are taking one thing from TW3 as inspiration, the city of Novigrad is definitely a good choice. But then again, this might not happen at all. It's really hard for me to imagine Bioware actually managing to create a breathing, living city with NPCs that aren't rocks. And don't kill me, but the protagonist possibly being human only is honestly really appealing to me. Hawke is still my favorite protagonist in all DA games for a reason. I also like the idea of having a last name that people will mention, because it makes things way more personal than having NPCs and companions calling you by your title (if we'll have any at all in DA4). But Lanius? What the heck kind of name is that? I smell BS... Also, I don't mind having only 7 companions, that's what I've been wishing for anyway. And I don't see what's the problem with having people attacking your companions if it makes sense for the story. If you go to a place where qunari are hated then I'd be more frustrated if people didn't react at all just because he/she is with you. Honestly, overall I'm liking what I'm reading, apart from a few weird things (Salos? Really?). Some of these things actually sound too good to be true (combat being more like DA2 with DAO tactics? My dream!). I'm not saying it's fake, it could very well be a very rough first draft of the game and many things may change, but if it's actually a genuine first draft, then I'd say they are going into the right direction in my opinion. I am with you ! The idea of a Qunari Inquisitor for example seemed so off to me....a Qunari as Andraste's Herald? LA Qunari leader of the Inquisition engaging in diplomacy etc ... seemed like too much of a stretch
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Post by FireAndBlood on Jun 9, 2018 10:46:54 GMT
Genuinely surprised Cloud9 wasn't the one responsible for the necro.
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