Are you considering buying Anthem? (Mass Effect thread version)

We don't know a thing about DA4 yet. *rolls eyes at gloom and doom people* It hasn't even been officially confirmed that the game is being worked on, has it?

Those who hate Bioware since ME3 will not shut up and never be pleased with any future effort. I will never blame the fans for the lukewarm reception and dropped support for MEA, however. The game was a terrible attempt at a Mass Effect game for me. The 6/10 from Game Spot (?) was spot on and fair for me. That is on Montreal.

As for self-fulfilling prophecy. This is definitely a thing. But a warped perception of certain haters doesn't matter. What matters is the general reception.

I hated the idea of going to Andromeda at first. And my first reaction to the announcement of another Mass Effect game was "cash grab". I didn't think continuing the franchise was a good idea. But I wanted to be wrong! I really wanted the game to be good. And about a month or two before release I got pretty excited actually despite the rumors of a troubled development (that turned out to be true!). I thought the forum was pretty hyped and positive.

It wasn't the animation memes that killed the game for me before I even played it. It was actual gameplay. I thought the writing in the promotion samples was god awful. But I was still hoping marketing just picked bad examples somehow. But nope. It was an accurate representation of the tone of the game.

What my personal verdict of the game is doesn't matter here though. What I meant to say is that I thought the pre-release mood here was very positiv. Even some of the complainers seemed excited. Even after gameplay footage people were still super positive.

However I do think Bioware's reputation is a bit damaged now. Not because of the hater but what Bioware delivered with ME3's ending, the MMO style open world design criticized in DAI and MEA, and MEA as a whole.
I actually think DAI and MEA failed the casual gamers more than the hardcore fans. But that's just my perception, might be wrong.

The internet has turned into a very harsh judge in general. It's not just Bioware who's being targeted. The internet has been taken over by complainers. Everything gets dissected and turned into a major issue. It's especially bad with franchise titles. Expectations are always high and half of the passionate fanbase will hate the result. What was once deeply loved will eventually be hated just as much.

So yes, DA4 will receive some hate. And yes, the game needs to be really good to avoid another MEA situation. But I still believe a great game will get good reviews. And a great game will be loved by those who actually played it.
The ME3MP servers are still up and people are still playing it five years later despite the ending shitstorm. Despite all the bugs it has. Nobody I know in person hated ME3. And they were all looking forward to MEA. But everyone I asked who played it said it was "ok, I guess".
So while some people are on a crusade against Bioware, I believe the general reception of gamers and gaming websites was largely matching in terms of MEA's shortcomings (if my limited sample group can be considered indicative).

I do not believe DA4 is doomed. But what happened with MEA might affect the people working on the game. Bioware has always been too sensitive about criticism and taking it the wrong way. Getting rid of an element people didn't like rather than fix it. And I am actually a little worried that the Montreal disaster has led to some kind of identity crisis. They've been chasing trends too much before already. Trying to capture what's popular while losing their own touch. Desperately trying to fix things with the fans might not be the best approach because this is a losing battle imo.

If Anthem is something they really want to do and feel confident about, then I'm all for it. If Anthem is Bioware grasping at straws, I'm worried about DA4. But until we actually get details, no reason to worry.

Anthem isn't offering anything I am interested in so no I am not going to be getting it.

Oh. I haven't been to the DA section in months. I didn't realize there has been an info leak. I'll check it out now. Thanks!

Probably. The only other games I'm really anticipating are the next Dragon Age and Cyberpunk, the former of which being the only one I truly care about right now.

Unsure. Curious to see what it offers, but there are plenty of other good online co-op games. Anthem is entering a hotly contested market.

Trying to bias the outcome of the poll? The OP should introduce a poll neutrally. If you want to save making a second post (which, apparently, you weren't worried about, since you did make two posts, both biased), at least push your extreme opinion down to the bottom of the post and introduce it with something like, "My own personal opinion is ..."

I mean, suppose I posted a poll that started, "Only a fuckhead would vote for anything other than X ..." What's the point of a poll, if you've already made up your mind?

Was the "no brothels" tweet part of that as well?

No, that was separate. The tweet was actually posted first, I think.

No idea. People seem to think the leak is fake for some reason.

Regardless, the reaction is premature and already over the top... trying to hamstring Bioware into only telling the precise story certain fans think should be told.  With ME:A, it was the premise of moving to another location ignoring the obvious fact that the story Bioware wanted to try to tell could not be told in the Milky Way because the premise of the creation of life in the Milky Way was already set/known.  They needed to move locations to set up that story.  They needed a creator/designer/architect of life to tell that story and they could not have shoehorned one into the Milky Way.  The premise and story were already rejected by the fan base long before the story could be assessed on its own merits.  Even now, it is largely not being assessed on its own merits... because people keep referring back to the lack of a Shepard-like PC, the lack of Reapers, the lack of familiar planets, etc.  It did not have a snowball's chance of real success long before it was released and regardless of the condition in which is was released.  Yes, the condition it was released in made matters worse... but it still would not, I believe, have ever overcome the "hate" for its premise that already had been set up on the forums and in the media long, long before any of the other details could have possibly been known.

What happens with DA now?  Bioware is already being damned by some if they put in brothels and damned if they don't by others.. over what should be, IMO, a really inconsequential decision solely up to them whether or not if fits whatever story they have in mind to tell us in that game... and in the meantime, here we are on this forum tearing each other apart over it.

It's really no different that your interpreting as a hoax without any confirmation of anything.  The fact remains, the thread exists and the reactions/over-reactions on it exist.