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Post by souljahbill14 on Oct 17, 2017 21:42:57 GMT
I had no problems with the tone of the game. It was fine to me. There are serious moments and there were jokes. I actually thought the tone was an improvement.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Oct 18, 2017 18:55:36 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy is a well-crafted story in a rich, interesting setting, and Force Awakens was the first Star Wars movie I ever really liked. Mass Effect could stand to take notes, tbh. Agreed. Starlord's mother dying made feel way more then Alec's death, and she had only around for about twenty-seconds of screen time.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 19, 2017 21:55:28 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy is a well-crafted story in a rich, interesting setting, and Force Awakens was the first Star Wars movie I ever really liked. Mass Effect could stand to take notes, tbh. Agreed. Starlord's mother dying made feel way more then Alec's death, and she had only around for about twenty-seconds of screen time. In fairness, a mother dying of cancer in the hospital is easily more relatable, not to mention that we actually got to see her die and get Peter's immediate reaction.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 26, 2017 23:58:23 GMT
No. But the internal struggles of BioWare and their dubious and increasingly sub-par capabilities sure did.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 27, 2017 22:38:43 GMT
Agreed. Starlord's mother dying made feel way more then Alec's death, and she had only around for about twenty-seconds of screen time. In fairness, a mother dying of cancer in the hospital is easily more relatable, not to mention that we actually got to see her die and get Peter's immediate reaction. Anyone else feel a lump when he flashes back to her death when Gamora shouts "Take my hand!"?
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Post by bizantura on Oct 28, 2017 8:51:03 GMT
I hope "Marvelism" goes the way of the dodo and a new Kubrick will stand up. If/when a new Kubrick stands up it won't be in that "exceptional" wonderland of the free nor Europe for that matter.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 28, 2017 16:31:23 GMT
Huh? There are plenty of auteurs around now. Marvel wouldn't hire one as uncompromising as Kubrick, but there are other films being made.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Oct 28, 2017 17:09:34 GMT
I mean, if Andromeda had taken notes from GoTG at least it would have been great.
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Post by Obadiah on Oct 28, 2017 18:24:05 GMT
The inclusion of the Pathfinder's father Alec in the rest of the Andromeda storyline was not that compelling. His memories show up over the course of the game with, aside from some revelations, no real effect on the story. With Peter's mother in Guardians of the Galaxy, his mother's influence is integral to the story, and is felt via his love of Earth music, his relationship with Yondu (surrogate father figure), and the hallucination in the final confrontation with Ronan. It would have been great if Andromeda had included Alec in a manner along those lines, but I suspect it would made the story susceptible to accusations of "forced feels", similar to the criticism of Shepard's dreams in ME3.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Oct 28, 2017 22:01:26 GMT
I hope "Marvelism" goes the way of the dodo and a new Kubrick will stand up. If/when a new Kubrick stands up it won't be in that "exceptional" wonderland of the free nor Europe for that matter. Lol, Marvel hires great directors who make excellent movies. Taika Waititi is awesome and Thor: Ragnarok will be too. Besides which, Marvel movies are not the only movies that are currently being made. They don't even account for MOST of the movies. There's plenty of variety if you just look for it. Kubrick would never have made a superhero movie, so why are you looking to superhero movies for a Kubrick experience in the first place? It's erroneous to give all the credit for a movie to the director, anyway. Films are a massive collaborative effort between dozens to potentially hundreds of people. Also, you know Kubrick was born in America, right? What specifically about America makes it impossible for another Kubrick-like director to be born there? I'm genuinely asking, because that sentence seems like a complete non-sequitur to me.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 29, 2017 10:49:55 GMT
The inclusion of the Pathfinder's father Alec in the rest of the Andromeda storyline was not that compelling. His memories show up over the course of the game with, aside from some revelations, no real effect on the story. With Peter's mother in Guardians of the Galaxy, his mother's influence is integral to the story, and is felt via his love of Earth music, his relationship with Yondu (surrogate father figure), and the hallucination in the final confrontation with Ronan. It would have been great if Andromeda had included Alec in a manner along those lines, but I suspect it would made the story susceptible to accusations of "forced feels", similar to the criticism of Shepard's dreams in ME3. In fairness, a lot of criticism for Shepard's dreams tended to revolve around the hate for the rando kid that we didn't even know, and the fact that they're annoying unskippable playable sequences where we have to just run around in slow motion trying to find this stupid kid.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 29, 2017 14:29:00 GMT
I hope "Marvelism" goes the way of the dodo and a new Kubrick will stand up. If/when a new Kubrick stands up it won't be in that "exceptional" wonderland of the free nor Europe for that matter. I'm not really sure what this is supposed to mean. "Marvelism" sounds like it could mean just about any lighthearted action/adventure film, but some of the films in the MCU are more serious than others, like The Winter Soldier. I'd certainly not want everything to be more like Kubrick's films. Sweet mercy I might as well just watch nothing but cartoons at that point.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 29, 2017 17:01:50 GMT
I hope "Marvelism" goes the way of the dodo and a new Kubrick will stand up. If/when a new Kubrick stands up it won't be in that "exceptional" wonderland of the free nor Europe for that matter. What is "marvelism"? Optimism? People doing what's right regardless of how much easier it would be to compromise yourself? Hope for the future? An atmosphere that's not full of gloom, angst and "Martha!"?
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Oct 29, 2017 18:42:38 GMT
I think MEA needed some "Marvellism" if I'm being honest.
You can fairly criticize Marvel films for sometimes being too comedic and constantly undercutting drama, but at those films core are great characters that capture your interest and make you care about whether they succeed or not. That's why I can forgive them for having weak villains, weak plots, and sometimes weak or tired themes, because despite all that the characters make the journey worth it all. That's why liked DAI despite the game being full of lame fetch quests and a hammy villain. That's why I defend ME2 even though its plot is generic and its villains are possibly the weakest Bioware has ever created. Without strong characters your story has nothing to drive it or make me give a damn. To me, that's why MEA failed as a narrative and a game. I could of forgiven the Archeon being a generic Space Nazi. I could have forgiven the weak open world gameplay. I could have forgive the bugs and subpar graphics. I could have forgiven the cringey humor. I could have even forgiven the many, many plotholes, but what I can't forgive is a Bioware game where most of the squadmates are "Meh" at best. The MEA could have been dark, light, optimistic or nihilistic, but in the end it had to be character-driven and to me it wasn't.
Guardians of the Galaxy and Force Awakens for all their flaws as plots or meaningful narratives at least understood that. I can only hope that Bioware remembers that in Anthem and DA4.
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Post by I'd rather be Mordin Solus on Oct 29, 2017 19:34:04 GMT
It wasn't Guardians of the Galaxy or Star War, it was the fact that people loved the Citadel DLC so much that someone thought it would be a good idea to create that atmosphere for an entire game. Yes. Exactly. They didn't realize that the Citadel's warm-fuzzy feeling was earned. MEA's was cringe-inducing pandering. I'd also add that they wanted to appeal to the young female audience, so the tone was softened dramatically. The male lead was neutered to remove any possible triggering of patriarchy rage.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 29, 2017 20:54:05 GMT
I'd also add that they wanted to appeal to the young female audience, so the tone was softened dramatically. The male lead was neutered to remove any possible triggering of patriarchy rage. Source?
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Oct 29, 2017 21:36:37 GMT
I'd also add that they wanted to appeal to the young female audience, so the tone was softened dramatically. The male lead was neutered to remove any possible triggering of patriarchy rage. Source? Well feminism is the root of all evil, so obviously it follows that it was behind MRyder and MEA sucking. BTW Feminism also caused the Challenger disaster and the Great Depression.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 29, 2017 22:41:15 GMT
I hope "Marvelism" goes the way of the dodo and a new Kubrick will stand up. If/when a new Kubrick stands up it won't be in that "exceptional" wonderland of the free nor Europe for that matter. Lol, Marvel hires great directors who make excellent movies. Taika Waititi is awesome and Thor: Ragnarok will be too. ...It's erroneous to give all the credit for a movie to the director, anyway. Films are a massive collaborative effort between dozens to potentially hundreds of people. In the case of Guardians of the Galaxy, James Gunn is the best I have ever watched in action, and I live on movie sets. Also, in the case of Marvel movies, you are talking about the collaborative effort of over 1000 people. Source: Rigging Electric Gang Boss, GotG2 Source: Rigging Electric General Foreman, Black Panther Source: Rigging Electric Network Systems Foreman, Venom
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Post by pessimistpanda on Oct 29, 2017 23:01:47 GMT
Lol, Marvel hires great directors who make excellent movies. Taika Waititi is awesome and Thor: Ragnarok will be too. ...It's erroneous to give all the credit for a movie to the director, anyway. Films are a massive collaborative effort between dozens to potentially hundreds of people. In the case of Guardians of the Galaxy, James Gunn is the best I have ever watched in action, and I live on movie sets. Also, in the case of Marvel movies, you are talking about the collaborative effort of over 1000 people. Source: Rigging Electric Gang Boss, GotG2 Source: Rigging Electric General Foreman, Black Panther Source: Rigging Electric Network Systems Foreman, Venom So is Chadwick Boseman nice in person?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 29, 2017 23:25:26 GMT
Seems nice enough. Always polite, and pretty professional as far as actors go.
I don't spend much time on set anymore; I mostly walk in briefly to see our rig in action and make sure the LCP has everything good, data wise. The console controls almost everything these days, and I rig the console.
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