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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 22:04:47 GMT
Well, Ryder had a fairly defined personality, but like with Hawke, I accepted it and vowed it and felt I had enough wiggle room. Inquisitor was the worst of both worlds for me. Neither he had a cool personality of his own, nor did he allowed me to express myself through a lot of choices like the unvoiced characters used to. He was back to the good old times when the protagonist was the most boring character of the cast, only sans the ability to chose what happens, from small things like killing the guys who annoyed him to huge sweeping choices that changed everything in the world. With Hawke, I always felt her character only made sense if you stick to one of the three personality options. If I didn’t she often felt terribly inconsistent, but the game also encouraged consistency despite ‘diplomatic’ not always being the best tone for a situation. I felt the Inquisitor’s more subdued personality actually made roleplaying them a lot more dynamic. Ryder’s problem for me is that he feels like the exact same character almost every time I play. He felt much more limited than, say, Shepard in terms of the ways I could play him. The Inquisitor’s many racial background options helped with this, in that I don’t think of my Inquisitor’s as minor variations on the same person. My two Ryders were drastically different to me, one a sweet good doer of a girl who was in love with a noble Angaran alien, and the second was a dangerous jerk that had an arrangement with a pirate. Both won everything they hoped to win. My first inquisitor was a mellow guy who could never express & stand up for his heritage and be proud of it & got duped, and my second Inquisitor was a mellow gal who could never express and stand up for her heritage and be proud of it & got duped. One ended up wretched cripple who was dumped by his boyfriend, and the second I dumped b/c she was a wrong race to be loved by men, and the third I dumped before I could see a pity-party marriage to a guy she did not really like while the guy she did was unavailable.
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Post by river82 on Dec 8, 2017 22:08:13 GMT
We get a lot of praise for Inquisition picking up Game of the Year, and the award is supposed to vindicate fans who believe it's a good game. Yet when Andromeda's lack of a nomination gets brought out come 1001 conspiracies theories for why it was judged far too harshly. Like somehow in the space of 3 years the industry has gone from upright and honest to completely, irreversibly corrupt. Ridiculous stuff
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 8, 2017 22:11:24 GMT
Whilst I think DAI was a better game than MEA (and I enjoyed both) Most reviewers made less of an issue of DAI's flaws and more of an issue of MEA's. It will be interesting to see whether Anthem's reviews get distorted in any way by the lens of opinions about the developer and publisher. If reviewers (and award ceremonies) are unreliable, then why are we supposed to trust them when they dish out good scores. Those same reviewers who gave distorted scores for Andromeda judged Inquisition also, and if scores can be distorted one way they can certainly be distorted the other. So either they're untrustworthy or they're not, they can't be "they're untrustworthy when my opinions don't agree with them". Hang on... what's with the assumption that DAI and MEA are supposedly so similar that they can serve as proof that reviewers shouldn't be trusted or something? They aren't. There are obvious similarities and overlaps, but it's neither the same game, nor the same story, or protagonists, and they also take a different space when it comes to their place in overarching story. They were developed by different teams. They had different problems during development. People oftentimes had different issue with both games. I mean, that's beside the point that reviewer scores are at best guidelines, not some sort of objective evaluations we could trust. I assume it's not just me who takes a look at more than a few reviews to form some sort of opinion on something.
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 8, 2017 22:15:53 GMT
So either they're untrustworthy or they're not, they can't be "they're untrustworthy when my opinions don't agree with them". Reviewers have varying opinions (as do posters here). That doesn't invalidate the process in aggregate. Like others, I try to read multiple reviews and pay more attention to reviewers I already respect. It's those who read one piece of youtube clickbait and treat it as gospel truth that I don't understand.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 8, 2017 22:22:59 GMT
We get a lot of praise for Inquisition picking up Game of the Year, and the award is supposed to vindicate fans who believe it's a good game. Yet when Andromeda's lack of a nomination gets brought out come 1001 conspiracies theories for why it was judged far too harshly. Like somehow in the space of 3 years the industry has gone from upright and honest to completely, irreversibly corrupt. Ridiculous stuff I don't really think that many people concoct those 1001 conspiracy theories - yet it doesn't change the fact that there are trends and moods withing both reviewing bodies and mood of players as a whole. You can see that in examples of stuff aside from games. Anne Hathaway was a darling of everyone for a few years - after 'Hathaway fatigue' set in, Hathaway suddenly became an object of hate, because ' we have seen way too much and heard from way too much'. Same with Disney and Disney Renaissance. At some point people became bored of Disney's continuous success and became way more nitpicky about their newer movies, and that's despite time now rehabilitating many titles that were considered 'bad' or 'not as good' at a time they were in theaters. This really isn't a new phenomenon. Not it is about 'industry becoming completely, irreversibly corrupt'. Such assumption is indeed ridiculous. We're talking about a natural ebb-and-flow of entertainment industry. Bioware has been a darling for a few years, and now fatigue has set in, compounded by both EA-related sheaningans and some misfires, as well as rising expectations. Just wait and see the same thing happen to at least some of current darlings in next few years, which in itself will also be influenced by changes on the market.
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Post by river82 on Dec 8, 2017 22:24:12 GMT
I mean, that's beside the point that reviewer scores are at best guidelines, not some sort of objective evaluations we could trust. I assume it's not just me who takes a look at more than a few reviews to form some sort of opinion on something. Review scores are utterly useless and I haven't trusted them since about 2006 for a variety of reasons (since Oblivion and its 10/10 GOTY nonsense debacle). Dice's trick of giving reviewers one game to play where grind is heavily reduced and giving the community another is yet another reason that fans and communities you trust are the best places to get opinions on games (not metacritic). But that's beside the point. My point is if the reviewers and award ceremonies are trusted to give honest assessments with Inquisition, that should be the case with Andromeda, and vice versa. Content has nothing to do with it. If you trust the sincerity of Inquisition's Game of the Year award, you should trust the sincerity of Andromeda failing to get nominated. If you trust the sincerity of Inquisition's high 8 score, you should trust the sincerity of Andromeda's low 7. Meanwhile I go from the Dragon Age forum where people say "look at the awards Inquisition won, proof of a good game" to the Mass Effect forum where people say "who cares! it was obvious social media trolls influenced the industry. Andromeda was destroyed by twitter trolls. BOO!"
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Post by river82 on Dec 8, 2017 22:28:34 GMT
Reviewers have varying opinions (as do posters here). That doesn't invalidate the process in aggregate. Like others, I try to read multiple reviews and pay more attention to reviewers I already respect. It's those who read one piece of youtube clickbait and treat it as gospel truth that I don't understand. Their opinions have nothing to do with their trustworthiness. Their varying opinions have nothing to do with their trustworthiness. Either they are trustworthy in that you believe their opinion is sincere, or they are not and you believe their opinions are not sincere. If you believe their opinions are sincere on occasion when it aligns with yours then the fault is with you. And I don't read reviews. Or watch them. I tend to know the sorts of games I like these days, and when in doubt I read the detailed discussions in a fan community. I don't trust reviews, which means I don't trust the ones which say "Divinity Original Sin 2, 10/10 GOTY" either
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Post by river82 on Dec 8, 2017 22:29:43 GMT
I don't really think that many people concoct those 1001 conspiracy theories You have obviously not been in the Andromeda sub-forum much
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 8, 2017 22:34:08 GMT
I mean, that's beside the point that reviewer scores are at best guidelines, not some sort of objective evaluations we could trust. I assume it's not just me who takes a look at more than a few reviews to form some sort of opinion on something. Review scores are utterly useless and I haven't trusted them since about 2006 for a variety of reasons (since Oblivion and its 10/10 GOTY nonsense debacle). Dice's trick of giving reviewers one game to play where grind is heavily reduced and giving the community another is yet another reason that fans and communities you trust are the best places to get opinions on games (not metacritic). But that's beside the point. My point is if the reviewers and award ceremonies are trusted to give honest assessments with Inquisition, that should be the case with Andromeda, and vice versa. Content has nothing to do with it. If you trust the sincerity of Inquisition's Game of the Year award, you should trust the sincerity of Andromeda failing to get nominated. If you trust the sincerity of Inquisition's high 8 score, you should trust the sincerity of Andromeda's low 7. Meanwhile I go from the Dragon Age forum where people say "look at the awards Inquisition won, proof of a good game" to the Mass Effect forum where people say "who cares! it was obvious social media trolls influenced the industry. Andromeda was destroyed by twitter trolls. BOO!" And you don't see a problem with the fact that you may be throwing different people with different opinions to the same bag? Still, one thing doesn't necessarily excludes another. The fact that Andromea got lower scores from reviewers doesn't change the fact that trolldom was at force trying to find any possible problem in Andromeda even way before it was released. It's hard to deny the fact that there's a portion of people to whom hating on something or someone is pretty much 'in fashion', and it's not just something that touches Bioware.
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 8, 2017 22:36:04 GMT
I don't really think that many people concoct those 1001 conspiracy theories You have obviously not been in the Andromeda sub-forum much I haven't. But I also don't see much of it in places where we're talking about both games or Bioware in general... like here.
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Post by river82 on Dec 8, 2017 22:38:57 GMT
And you don't see a problem with the fact that you may be throwing different people with different opinions to the same bag? Still, one thing doesn't necessarily excludes another. The fact that Andromea got lower scores from reviewers doesn't change the fact that trolldom was at force trying to find any possible problem in Andromeda even way before it was released. It's hard to deny the fact that there's a portion of people to whom hating on something or someone is pretty much 'in fashion', and it's not just something that touches Bioware. No, I have no problem with that. While there was a lot of hate for Bioware, it's another thing entirely to suggest that hate influences things like review scores, lack of awards, and other stuff. Saying there's a lot of hate is fine, extrapolating that further is when we start getting into UFO territory
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Post by river82 on Dec 8, 2017 22:41:10 GMT
You have obviously not been in the Andromeda sub-forum much I haven't. But I also don't see much of it in places where we're talking about both games or Bioware in general... like here. Then you haven't experienced the full force of posters like Hybrid and Cyberstrike then. Pity. Hybrid - "Which makes me think that the media was out to give ME:A a hard time in order to regain some credibility after they neglected to report on ME3's ending. " November 6 2017
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 8, 2017 22:43:46 GMT
I mean, that's beside the point that reviewer scores are at best guidelines, not some sort of objective evaluations we could trust. I assume it's not just me who takes a look at more than a few reviews to form some sort of opinion on something. Review scores are utterly useless and I haven't trusted them since about 2006 for a variety of reasons (since Oblivion and its 10/10 GOTY nonsense debacle). Dice's trick of giving reviewers one game to play where grind is heavily reduced and giving the community another is yet another reason that fans and communities you trust are the best places to get opinions on games (not metacritic). But that's beside the point. My point is if the reviewers and award ceremonies are trusted to give honest assessments with Inquisition, that should be the case with Andromeda, and vice versa. Content has nothing to do with it. If you trust the sincerity of Inquisition's Game of the Year award, you should trust the sincerity of Andromeda failing to get nominated. If you trust the sincerity of Inquisition's high 8 score, you should trust the sincerity of Andromeda's low 7. Meanwhile I go from the Dragon Age forum where people say "look at the awards Inquisition won, proof of a good game" to the Mass Effect forum where people say "who cares! it was obvious social media trolls influenced the industry. Andromeda was destroyed by twitter trolls. BOO!" So, if I really do believe Inquisition is a much better game than Andromeda, I should totally trust reviewers and awards?
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 8, 2017 22:44:42 GMT
And you don't see a problem with the fact that you may be throwing different people with different opinions to the same bag? Still, one thing doesn't necessarily excludes another. The fact that Andromea got lower scores from reviewers doesn't change the fact that trolldom was at force trying to find any possible problem in Andromeda even way before it was released. It's hard to deny the fact that there's a portion of people to whom hating on something or someone is pretty much 'in fashion', and it's not just something that touches Bioware. No, I have no problem with that. While there was a lot of hate for Bioware, it's another thing entirely to suggest that hate influences things like review scores, lack of awards, and other stuff. Saying there's a lot of hate is fine, extrapolating that further is when we start getting into UFO territory Yea, but at this point you're acting as if people who accept that DAI was well-received also make conspiracy theories about MEA being not so-well-received, even though there might or might not be little overlap between people who make such claims. And then you say you have no problem with that, even though it's glaringly unfair.
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Post by river82 on Dec 8, 2017 22:46:23 GMT
Review scores are utterly useless and I haven't trusted them since about 2006 for a variety of reasons (since Oblivion and its 10/10 GOTY nonsense debacle). Dice's trick of giving reviewers one game to play where grind is heavily reduced and giving the community another is yet another reason that fans and communities you trust are the best places to get opinions on games (not metacritic). But that's beside the point. My point is if the reviewers and award ceremonies are trusted to give honest assessments with Inquisition, that should be the case with Andromeda, and vice versa. Content has nothing to do with it. If you trust the sincerity of Inquisition's Game of the Year award, you should trust the sincerity of Andromeda failing to get nominated. If you trust the sincerity of Inquisition's high 8 score, you should trust the sincerity of Andromeda's low 7. Meanwhile I go from the Dragon Age forum where people say "look at the awards Inquisition won, proof of a good game" to the Mass Effect forum where people say "who cares! it was obvious social media trolls influenced the industry. Andromeda was destroyed by twitter trolls. BOO!" So, if I really do believe Inquisition is a much better game than Andromeda, I should totally trust reviewers and awards? Did I say that? I believe D:OS2 is GOTY and I still don't trust the reviews which say that. What I said is if you trust the sincerity of reviewers when they say one thing, then you should trust the sincerity of reviewers when they say another. And vice versa
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 8, 2017 22:47:19 GMT
I haven't. But I also don't see much of it in places where we're talking about both games or Bioware in general... like here. Then you haven't experienced the full force of posters like Hybrid and Cyberstrike then. Pity. Hybrid - "Which makes me think that the media was out to give ME:A a hard time in order to regain some credibility after they neglected to report on ME3's ending. " November 6 2017 So we're talking about specific individuals now? I thought you were trying to make a bigger point, but now you admit of attempting to extend an opinion of a few people on either most MEA sub-forum or even most Bioware forum...
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Post by river82 on Dec 8, 2017 22:49:54 GMT
No, I have no problem with that. While there was a lot of hate for Bioware, it's another thing entirely to suggest that hate influences things like review scores, lack of awards, and other stuff. Saying there's a lot of hate is fine, extrapolating that further is when we start getting into UFO territory Yea, but at this point you're acting as if people who accept that DAI was well-received also make conspiracy theories about MEA being not so-well-received, even though there might or might not be little overlap between people who make such claims. And then you say you have no problem with that, even though it's glaringly unfair. Oh, I thought you meant if I had problems with throwing all reviewers into the same "untrustworthy" category. My mistake. There are some like you who never go to ME:A so I know you don't hold inconsistent opinions in this instance. There are some who never go to DA:I. I'm not really talking about those. There are some on the board who want to accept Inquisition's GOTY while also dismissing ME:A's lack of nomination, and my posts were really aimed at those comparative few (I guess.) They know who they are
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Post by midnight tea on Dec 8, 2017 22:59:56 GMT
Yea, but at this point you're acting as if people who accept that DAI was well-received also make conspiracy theories about MEA being not so-well-received, even though there might or might not be little overlap between people who make such claims. And then you say you have no problem with that, even though it's glaringly unfair. Oh, I thought you meant if I had problems with throwing all reviewers into the same "untrustworthy" category. My mistake. There are some like you who never go to ME:A so I know you don't hold inconsistent opinions in this instance. There are some who never go to DA:I. I'm not really talking about those. There are some on the board who want to accept Inquisition's GOTY while also dismissing ME:A's lack of nomination, and my posts were really aimed at those comparative few (I guess.) They know who they are Well, there will always be at least a few people like that, regardless of where they stand.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 23:33:18 GMT
Well, I guess I consistently disagree with the award guys and critiques (and the rest of the gaming population, lol). Actually really consistently because I don’t like W3 and Zelda either. No wonder Steam is at the end of its wits when it makes its suggestions for me.
The upside is that I can save myself a lot of money if I know in advance that I eschew critical triumphs and am drawn to failed games.
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Post by Sanunes on Dec 9, 2017 6:12:08 GMT
Well, I guess I consistently disagree with the award guys and critiques (and the rest of the gaming population, lol). Actually really consistently because I don’t like W3 and Zelda either. No wonder Steam is at the end of its wits when it makes its suggestions for me. The upside is that I can save myself a lot of money if I know in advance that I eschew critical triumphs and am drawn to failed games. I wouldn't say I always disagree, but I would say most of the time I just don't care what others think about the games I play. The opinion I care the most is my own since I am the one that paid for the game and my enjoyment is what my top priority is. Now Dragon Age: Inquisition is the first game when I have gone back to look at the games nominated because I do get tired of people claiming that 2014 was objectively bad for games and I will then list the other games that were nominated for I enjoyed a couple of those as well, other then that I don't think I really mention awards.
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Bout death of SP games:
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Dec 9, 2017 11:05:09 GMT
Now Dragon Age: Inquisition is the first game when I have gone back to look at the games nominated because I do get tired of people claiming that 2014 was objectively bad for games and I will then list the other games that were nominated for I enjoyed a couple of those as well, other then that I don't think I really mention awards. Well to be fair I never said that 2014 was objectively a bad year for games, and I don't know if I would even go as far to say it was a bad year as there were games I did enjoy that year, however I do feel it was a comparatively weak year when compared to similar years, I don't know how common that opinion is, I know it probably isn't one you share but it is certainly what I feel, in fact going back over previous years winners I would probably even go so far to say it may even be one of the weakest if not the weakest year of the current decade. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Video_Game_Awardsen.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_Awards_2014en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_Awards_2015en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_Awards_20162010's winner was Red Dead Redemption, going up against games like Mass Effect 2 and Halo Reach 2011's winner was Skyrim, going up against Arkham City, Skyward Sword, Portal 2, Uncharted 3 2012's winner was the Walking Dead, going up against AC3, Journey, Dishonored and Mass Effect 3 2013's winner was GTAV, going up against, the Last of Us, Bioshock Infinite, Super Mario 3D world and Tomb Raider 2015 belonged to Witcher 3 which had to also contend with MGSV and Fallout 4 as well as Bloodbourne and Super Mario Maker 2016 was Overwatch which also had to compete with Uncharted 4 And 2017 as you know had Breath of the Wild (which is considered the best Zelda game since Ocarina of Time which usually ranks among the top 3 in best games of all time lists) and also had to compete with Horizon Zero Dawn and Mario Odyssey. Now putting our personal enjoyment aside just out of curiosity do you really honestly see Inquisition winning in any of those years or even getting nominated? For my money I would say maybe 2012 but then 2012 is a pretty close rival with 2014 for being the weakest year of the decade so far.
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 9, 2017 11:30:39 GMT
Bear in mind that the GOTY is not determined by the 'Game Awards'. That's just one awarding body, if an important one. It's an aggregate of hundreds of media sources calling GOTY. 2013's GOTY was 'The Last of Us' by some considerable distance above GTAV. 249 GOTY's vs. 160. Similarly, 2016's GOTY was 'Uncharted 4', again by some considerable distance over Overwatch. 165 GOTY's vs. 102. gotypicks.blogspot.com/As for comparing one year with another, that's fine, but unless the assertion is that 2014 had 'no great games', DAI was judged to be a great game.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Dec 9, 2017 12:00:49 GMT
Bear in mind that the GOTY is not determined by the 'Game Awards'. That's just one awarding body, if an important one. It's an aggregate of hundreds of media sources calling GOTY. 2013's GOTY was 'The Last of Us' by some considerable distance above GTAV. 249 GOTY's vs. 160. Similarly, 2016's GOTY was 'Uncharted 4', again by some considerable distance over Overwatch. 165 GOTY's vs. 102. gotypicks.blogspot.com/As for comparing one year with another, that's fine, but unless the assertion is that 2014 had 'no great games', DAI was judged to be a great game. I generally don't agree with the game awards when it comes to choosing a personal game of the year, it is really more of a weird habit where I like to try to predict what other sites will pick as GOTY and the reason I use the VGAs is mostly because it is probably the most popular Game Award show and the games represented are usually consistent with what most other publications within the games industry are considering GOTY material. Not going to sift through every publication to find outliers and inconsistencies. Not saying there were no good games in 2014 but looking at the competition in other years I do think Inquisition would have had an extremely hard time had it been released a year earlier or a year later
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 9, 2017 13:06:16 GMT
objectively speaking it's quite a bit worse than Inquisition, right? Whilst I think DAI was a better game than MEA (and I enjoyed both) Most reviewers made less of an issue of DAI's flaws and more of an issue of MEA's. It will be interesting to see whether Anthem's reviews get distorted in any way by the lens of opinions about the developer and publisher. -(_ANTHEM_)-
Reviewers ought to provide the pros and cons of the game from each platform it supports and call out if the port is shyte.
Athem reviews must address the progression system. Unfortunately, I fear that the pre-release game that reviewers get may be different from the actual release. That is, the game is tweaked to be more progression friendly. Or, the first 20 hours is friendly then the hammer comes down. End result? = a distorted review. If the latter then it's deliberate. What does that say about the pub/dev?
Any bias against the pubs/devs is well deserved, imo, since they continually attempt to hide their predatory machinations. MTs and LBs is Nirvana to them. EA, in this case, told us so. Pubs won't give it up thus deep scrutiny of the game is a must.
As for DA:I vs ME:A, I feel the reviewers were too slack for DA:I and then tried to correct themselves with ME:A... and rightly so. ME:A at launch was awful. No "excellence" / quality there. However, since I paid $39 for the game, I won't complain too much.
One big question. Will EA make the same mistake(s) again? = pre-release / Early Access = opportunity to find huge flaws = influence game buy decision.
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