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Post by ShadowAngel on Nov 1, 2017 20:07:11 GMT
🤷🏻♀️ There's a market for it. Doesn't need to be a hit. i already know it'd be an issue for you, I'd be glad I'm not actually in charge 👍 Trust me, I am glad that people who understand the "game" part of video games are indeed incharge. Maybe the five people or so who would even buy a game hyped up as oldschool cool would be happy. Maybe make it playable on on DOSBox while you're at it for that true dark-age-of-gaming vibe! Ehh, mass effect did just fine. people who "understand" games is why the industry went to shit in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 20:11:24 GMT
Trust me, I am glad that people who understand the "game" part of video games are indeed incharge. Maybe the five people or so who would even buy a game hyped up as oldschool cool would be happy. Maybe make it playable on on DOSBox while you're at it for that true dark-age-of-gaming vibe! Ehh, mass effect did just fine. people who "understand" games is why the industry went to shit in the first place. Riiight. Because the industry hasn't grown exponentially and doesn't now rival and exceed other media forms at all. It totally went to shit. You sound like some old timer talking about "back in my day everything was better." That, or talking out of your ass is just second nature.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 20:14:46 GMT
Ehh, mass effect did just fine. people who "understand" games is why the industry went to shit in the first place. Riiight. Because the industry hasn't grown exponentially and doesn't now rival and exceed other media forms at all. It totally went to shit. You sound like some old timer talking about "back in my day everything was better." That, or talking out of your ass is just second nature. Can you please just let people say what they would even if you vehemently disagree? None of us is in a position to do anything about ME franchise, and the dreams are free, and do not interfere.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Nov 1, 2017 20:19:14 GMT
Ehh, mass effect did just fine. people who "understand" games is why the industry went to shit in the first place. Riiight. Because the industry hasn't grown exponentially and doesn't now rival and exceed other media forms at all. It totally went to shit. You sound like some old timer talking about "back in my day everything was better." That, or talking out of your ass is just second nature. Grown? As in following trends and doing nothing unique? Sure. You've completely ignored my "it doesn't need to be a hit" point with that response too. I don't care about the industry.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 20:41:50 GMT
Riiight. Because the industry hasn't grown exponentially and doesn't now rival and exceed other media forms at all. It totally went to shit. You sound like some old timer talking about "back in my day everything was better." That, or talking out of your ass is just second nature. Can you please just let people say what they would even if you vehemently disagree? None of us is in a position to do anything about ME franchise, and the dreams are free, and do not interfere. This is an open forum, not a soapbox. Opinions will be challenged. Riiight. Because the industry hasn't grown exponentially and doesn't now rival and exceed other media forms at all. It totally went to shit. You sound like some old timer talking about "back in my day everything was better." That, or talking out of your ass is just second nature. Grown? As in following trends and doing nothing unique? Sure. You've completely ignored my "it doesn't need to be a hit" point with that response too. I don't care about the industry. If you can't see the progress made since the days of the brown box then you are purposefully not looking.
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Post by anarchy65 on Nov 1, 2017 20:55:15 GMT
I would keep the game in Andromeda, because I think ME3 ending is definitive. But I would ditch Ryder and his companions. I would make an independent group acting and discovering new alien species and new clusters in Andromeda Galaxy, maybe even rebelling against the Initiative. Maybe the players could choose to cooperate with them or rebel against them, with real consequences about that. I would completely ignore the kett and the angara, they are absolutely uninteresting and boring.
I would make a "quest contest", where players could send their ideas of quests and the top 5 or 10 would be put into the game. That not only would make better quests than just "fetch quests", but would add some nice interaction with the fans, something really important to media dissemination nowadays. I'd also hire some good writers to write deep characters, that really judge you by your choices and talk to you about your choices when you make one. I would add space battles and shuttles for exploration. No more stupid ground vehicles!
And most of all, I would make the game have choices with actual consequences. And you will be able to choose if you're going to play an asshole, a good guy, or "grey". And finally, a final mission based on ME2's suicide mission, but better
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Post by ShadowAngel on Nov 1, 2017 21:20:46 GMT
Can you please just let people say what they would even if you vehemently disagree? None of us is in a position to do anything about ME franchise, and the dreams are free, and do not interfere. This is an open forum, not a soapbox. Opinions will be challenged. Grown? As in following trends and doing nothing unique? Sure. You've completely ignored my "it doesn't need to be a hit" point with that response too. I don't care about the industry. If you can't see the progress made since the days of the brown box then you are purposefully not looking. What is there to challenge? This is exactly what I'd do if I owned the rights, there is nothing to challenge lol. I understand you dislike ME1 but don't be obnoxious or ignorant. I've already said I do not care for the industry, I would not play a part in copying trends and being part of its problems. What's so gold about your responses is the hypocrisy it brings from your comments in earlier threads.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 1, 2017 21:24:44 GMT
The franchise would go old school. All that action crap implemented since ME2? Gone. Multiplayer? Gone. After that, I'd get a team that knows how to do an old school RPG with the emphasis of no action and multiplayer. They can then make the games however they want so long as it stays old school. Old school like what, Unity engine?
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Post by Superhik on Nov 1, 2017 21:42:38 GMT
GTFO of Heleus Cluster.
Andromeda kind of reminded me of going from Morrowind to Oblivion.
Vvardenfell was crazy exotic continent where people live in mushroom cities/giant crabs, ashlander ( sort of like Dune) tribes, melting pot of several cultures, pyramide city ruled by living god and a world incredibly rich in history and lore.
And then they go to dull medieval setting and plain forests.
Wouldn't mind if they keep the Ryders, they've got more potential for char development than Shepard did.
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Post by Gya on Nov 1, 2017 21:58:07 GMT
The franchise would go old school. All that action crap implemented since ME2? Gone. Multiplayer? Gone. After that, I'd get a team that knows how to do an old school RPG with the emphasis of no action and multiplayer. They can then make the games however they want so long as it stays old school. Old school like what, Unity engine? Older... You enter the Normandy hangar, and walk to Wrex. Wrex says "Shepard". Do you: 1. Wrex 2. Wrex 3. Wrex I should go ENTER I don't understand that!
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Post by Phantom on Nov 1, 2017 23:07:57 GMT
If I had the rights and money was no issue, I would have the PC punch Batarian in the face. Well I would have the PC be able with every conversation with Douche-bags with a punch them in the face or knee to the groin.
I would have a Non Alliance Hero that is more of an infiltrator feel.
Quality and Quantity are two different things.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 1, 2017 23:15:10 GMT
GTFO of Heleus Cluster. Andromeda kind of reminded me of going from Morrowind to Oblivion. Vvardenfell was crazy exotic continent where people live in mushroom cities/giant crabs, ashlander ( sort of like Dune) tribes, melting pot of several cultures, pyramide city ruled by living god and a world incredibly rich in history and lore. And then they go to dull medieval setting and plain forests. Wouldn't mind if they keep the Ryders, they've got more potential for char development than Shepard did. If/when Bioware picks up Mass Effect again, I'm pretty certain this is what they will do. After all before the game released Mac Walters talked about how the plan was that as the games go on we expand more and more into Andromeda. So I can see maybe the Heleus Cluster being more like how clusters in the Shepard Trilogy were where only a few systems are available, in this case the golden worlds since they'd probably like to show how they progressed, and then we have access to a couple more clusters with all new worlds/species/etc. I hope they keep the Ryders too.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 1, 2017 23:19:41 GMT
Money not an issue? Hard reboot of the franchise. ME trilogy with more modern effects and an actual outline (needless to say, this would likely create very different ME2 and ME3 games, and probably significant changes to ME1 as well.). Endings to ME3 would be completely redone so that they don't rewrite the entire galaxy (and thus keep the Milky Way as a viable setting) and actually reflects player choice through the trilogy. Less emphasis on big sweeping changes and more on personal destiny. MEA would be rewritten to be set in the Milky Way, beyond explored space and with a reason created to explain why they are cut off from the relay network (relay damaged/destroyed by the Scourge?) Chris L'Etoile would be paid an obscene amount of money to return. I’d buy these games, and I usually hate movie reboots, so that’s saying something. The ME1 remastered idea alone is worth the billions it would take.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 1, 2017 23:26:31 GMT
Old school like what, Unity engine? Older... You enter the Normandy hangar, and walk to Wrex. Wrex says "Shepard". Do you: 1. Wrex 2. Wrex 3. Wrex I should go ENTER I don't understand that! That's old even by my standards!
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 1, 2017 23:30:45 GMT
My own billion dollar wet dream:
Retcon Andromeda into never happened land.
Prequel for First Contact War.
ME1 remastered.
Change the ME3 RGB ending to just R and then continue the franchise from there, but not as Shepard.
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Post by river82 on Nov 1, 2017 23:33:13 GMT
The Mass Effect ending was so bad partly due to it being insanely rushed. Think of it this way, the only way you can beat a fleet of virtual Gods in any semi-satisfying manner would involve a long drawn out process, something that would probably take an entire game to resolve. Instead the resolution was tacked on right at the end ("and Shepard resolved it all, the end.") So it was partly their insistence on keeping the game to a trilogy that stuffed them and partly their useless ME2 plot where Shepard went around recruiting people instead of advancing the plot in any meaningful way. ME2 wasted an entire game, time which could have been much better spent advancing the overarching plot.
Rule of thumb is that scenes should advance the plot, not "let's recruit Garrus, and Tali, and Kasumi, and Thane, and Mordin ..."
If they scrapped the entirety of ME2, dedicated the first half of that game to setting up the premise of a galaxy which doesn't take the threat seriously and Shepard running around trying to get everyone ready, and the second half of ME2 to the arrival of the reapers and the introduction of war (the devastating first onslaught of the reapers) Bioware could have had the entire ME3 deal with the solution and how everyone was going to defeat the reapers. There could have been a time skip between ME2 and ME3, so the intro of ME3 could have been on the backdrop of destroyed cities and the Reaper forces coming in for the kill skipping months and months worth of boring destruction, then they could have gone from there. Instead what we got was ME1 setting up the threat, ME2 diddling around and doing sweet fuck all, and ME3 having to suddenly cram the entrance of the reapers, the devastating first onslaught, months of devastation and loss of hope, and the inevitable victory by Shepard and it was just too much. Far too much. ME3 was hamstrung by ME2.
Bioware lacked story direction in the ME series and it showed. The ending was just the inevitable result of years of (story wise) seemingly directionless development.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Nov 1, 2017 23:52:32 GMT
GTFO of Heleus Cluster. Andromeda kind of reminded me of going from Morrowind to Oblivion. Vvardenfell was crazy exotic continent where people live in mushroom cities/giant crabs, ashlander ( sort of like Dune) tribes, melting pot of several cultures, pyramide city ruled by living god and a world incredibly rich in history and lore. And then they go to dull medieval setting and plain forests. Wouldn't mind if they keep the Ryders, they've got more potential for char development than Shepard did. This is off topic but I never played Morrowind and Oblivion was my first TES game and I loved it. The generic setting was good for first timers.
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 2, 2017 0:12:32 GMT
Thank Satan billionaires are both rare and disinterested in Mass Effect.
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Post by abedsbrother on Nov 2, 2017 0:37:26 GMT
If I owned Mass Effect, I'd go all out. Mass proliferation. This is a franchise that could duel with both Stars (Trek and Wars) in terms of market appeal. Let's get Andromeda 2 underway. Let's get ME4 underway (starring the Virmire survivor or Liara, whose task now is to rebuild the galaxy after the Reaper war). Remaster the OT and give it for free to everyone who already owns the games & story DLC - and sell the remastering on GOG and Steam in addition to Origin. Get James Cameron or Christopher Nolan to produce a movie based on the first game (with the idea of making a trilogy). Start a dedicated (instead of spin-off) series of comics.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 2, 2017 1:04:03 GMT
I'd probably continue Ryder's story but try to do a better job of it. Because personally I enjoy MEA but I would just try to make improvements in all areas and not get it turned into some gif show to be made fun of.
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Post by midnightwolf on Nov 2, 2017 4:19:23 GMT
Tell all of the whining 'fans' who insisted on making pointless threads to go screw themselves and shelf the series? Honestly, I've no clue. But then, being creative isn't my job, nor is making games.
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Post by river82 on Nov 2, 2017 4:23:33 GMT
Tell all of the whining 'fans' who insisted on making pointless threads to go screw themselves and shelf the series? Phil Fish mark 2
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Post by midnightwolf on Nov 2, 2017 4:28:00 GMT
Tell all of the whining 'fans' who insisted on making pointless threads to go screw themselves and shelf the series? Phil Fish mark 2 What's that then?
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Post by river82 on Nov 2, 2017 4:34:47 GMT
Phil Fish was a game developer who famously abandoned the sequel to Fez after getting into a twitter argument, which later caused a meltdown, a meltdown which led to him raging against abusive gamers and how he hates the industry and that he was taking his bat and ball and leaving. Your comment reminded me of him "to be clear, im not cancelling FEZ II because some boorish fuck said something stupid, im doing it to get out of games. and im getting out of games because i choose not to put up with this abuse anymore."Before you feel sorry for him it should be noted that Fish isn't really a sympathetic figure, and is actually a bit of an arsehole.
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Post by midnightwolf on Nov 2, 2017 4:36:52 GMT
Phil Fish was a game developer who famously abandoned the sequel to Fez after getting into a twitter argument, which later caused a meltdown, a meltdown which led to him raging against abusive gamers and how he hates the industry and that he was taking his bat and ball and leaving. Your comment reminded me of him "to be clear, im not cancelling FEZ II because some boorish fuck said something stupid, im doing it to get out of games. and im getting out of games because i choose not to put up with this abuse anymore."Before you feel sorry for him it should be noted that Fish isn't really a sympathetic figure, and is actually a bit of an arsehole. Lol. That's actually rather funny. And most people are arseholes. They just get good at hiding it.
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