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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Nov 7, 2017 11:56:54 GMT
As mentioned, Capital Punishment is supposed to be a deterrent. However, if people aren't watching it, it fails as a deterrent because it isn't "real".
Seeing people drawn and then quartered and displayed, was a better deterrent. So was public hanging or guillotine.
If they deserve to die, they should die publicly. However, when you start getting diabolical and talk about dismembering people to intentionally drive them insane and then die - OK Mengele, settle down.
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Post by Melra on Nov 7, 2017 12:41:53 GMT
I'd rather have the system work in a way where one can be sure of being guilty of the act that they are accused of. Seeing as how things are developing on some college campuses, the college guys would be in increased risk of ending up executed while actually innocent. But if one can be proven to be a rapist, pedophile or murdering bunch of people, we could just let them be used for medical experiments. Drug trials and so forth.
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Post by Transcended One on Nov 7, 2017 16:57:39 GMT
I'd say they suffer. A bullet to the head, lethal injection, or even something like a guillotine lets them on the hook far too easily. And countries that have capital punishment aren't less 'criminal' than countries that don't.
I live in a country which doesn't have it, and in case of rapists and pedosexuals: they are reintegrated into the system far too easily. Yeah sure they get 'therapy' but not too long ago there was yet again a case where the legal system failed (and cost the life of a 21-year-old girl).
I think those people have forgone their 'human rights', so therefore they deserve punishment which would be considered inhuman. They shouldn't be given psychological help paid by the tax-payers, since most of them can't be helped. Life-long sentence is also wasted on them. But an execution, even a public one, is a far too easy fate for them.
There are some interesting, yet gruesome tortures mentioned here in this topic, and I'd like to add a classic one in the Dutch spirit, the torture and execution of Baltasar Gérard (murderer of William the Silent):
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Nov 7, 2017 18:29:46 GMT
No bears?
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Post by mybudgee on Nov 7, 2017 18:37:44 GMT
Or we could idk, lets say let them spend their lives in prison so no one more has to die/get hurt, while not having a justice system which is just as guilty of wrongdoing as the criminals *wonders if that might be too much sense for this thread* What a utter waste of food and lodging.Agreed. Capital punishment can be an effective tool, as prison overcrowding is a very real problem here in 'Merica We mustn't pretend violence is not in our nature as human beings. We are horrible beasts, may as well embrace this fact & fry some fuckers
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Post by bmwcrazy on Nov 8, 2017 2:25:45 GMT
I remember Lotion Soronnar called me a pedophile when I said I liked Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya. I guess he would have me killed by a firing squad.
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Post by voltangclan on Nov 8, 2017 5:01:03 GMT
You earth clan are fools. Why torture when you can profit from their labor?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 8, 2017 5:08:20 GMT
I'd rather have the system work in a way where one can be sure of being guilty of the act that they are accused of. Seeing as how things are developing on some college campuses, the college guys would be in increased risk of ending up executed while actually innocent. But if one can be proven to be a rapist, pedophile or murdering bunch of people, we could just let them be used for medical experiments. Drug trials and so forth. I remember seeing a thing where some scientists are creating something that can do exactly that. Basically it is the ultimate lie detector test that can tell if someone is lying or not by seeing if their pupils dilate. The reason is because lying takes more energy than telling the truth, and they saw that as a result the pupils dilate ever so slightly. So the machine would look at the person's eyes as they are asked questions. Best part, eyes dilating is a subconscious reflex so it can't be something someone trains against like some other lie detector test methods. Even the best liar in the world would be busted.
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Post by House Targaryen on Nov 8, 2017 5:33:28 GMT
Impalement.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 8, 2017 6:01:42 GMT
I remember Lotion Soronnar called me a pedophile when I said I liked Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya. I guess he would have me killed by a firing squad. Lotion Soronnar was right. Always
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Post by Inquisitor Recon on Nov 8, 2017 6:07:59 GMT
I remember Lotion Soronnar called me a pedophile when I said I liked Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya. I guess he would have me killed by a firing squad. Hmm judging from that cover art that might be a good idea.
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Post by Lavochkin on Nov 8, 2017 8:05:43 GMT
There's some.. imaginative methods of execution out there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 13:44:17 GMT
Well prisoners take up far too many resources so... Kill them all! On a more serious note, if a person is undoubtedly guilty then and they committed a serious crime (not something like stealing) then yeah, don't waste money and resources on them. Just be rid of them.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Nov 8, 2017 19:39:09 GMT
Well prisoners take up far too many resources so... Kill them all! On a more serious note, if a person is undoubtedly guilty then and they committed a serious crime (not something like stealing) then yeah, don't waste money and resources on them. Just be rid of them. So for stealing it'd be what...a "gentle" spanking?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 19:48:33 GMT
Well prisoners take up far too many resources so... Kill them all! On a more serious note, if a person is undoubtedly guilty then and they committed a serious crime (not something like stealing) then yeah, don't waste money and resources on them. Just be rid of them. So for stealing it'd be what...a "gentle" spanking? Exactly! You see my thought process right there
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Nov 8, 2017 19:56:50 GMT
So for stealing it'd be what...a "gentle" spanking? Exactly! You see my thought process right there
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Nov 8, 2017 20:50:48 GMT
So for stealing it'd be what...a "gentle" spanking? Exactly! You see my thought process right there Your thought process is pretty easy to track, as I recall.
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 8, 2017 22:54:59 GMT
I live in a state that has done away with the death penalty. But I've always been pro-death penalty. I don't think we should execute everyone, but I don't think that there aren't crimes that shouldn't be punished in a permanent manner either.
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Post by nanotm on Nov 9, 2017 0:21:01 GMT
since i assume your meaning justice and a fitting punishment then the only method of death should always be the gallows its the fastest and most humane method possible bar none, there no waiting around no long drawn out process and your not putting anyone else in the position of feeling like they murdered someone, if your meaning a retributive act then blood eagle would be better, since it takes a good 5 minutes of pure agony to die its messy as all hell and done right its a grizzly spectacle for the masses to enjoy .... oh and of course it includes a serious amount of torture
naw I'll stick to hanging as my preferred option for capital punishment.... followed by cremation and either returned to family or sold as fertiliser to farms
there's a few other categories i would include in capital punishment as well, like anyone granted more than a 50 year sentence, because there not likely to survive such a sentence and even if they did they wouldn't be able to survive after release without reoffending, added to which its far cheaper to just fertilise the earth with their remains than it is to keep someone in what equated to cruel and unusual punishment(also known as torture) when there locked up without any possibility of parole.....
although i might tighten up the requirements of who can be sentenced in such a way especially as corruption in the criminal justice system seems to be rife regardless of which country your in/
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Post by Larry-3 on Nov 9, 2017 2:07:49 GMT
I am against the Death Penalty. Even if one is a murderer, rapist, or commits capital punishment. That is a difference between me and criminal. I do not support killing for gain or to get even. If we kill them for killing or hurting, are we any better?
Let them be used for science to help people and or possibly save lives, or send them to the military with no privileges or liberties, but do not resort to so called "legal execution."
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 9, 2017 14:00:15 GMT
I am against the Death Penalty. Even if one is a murderer, rapist, or commits capital punishment. That is a difference between me and criminal. I do not support killing for gain or to get even. If we kill them for killing or hurting, are we any better? Let them be used for science to help people and or possibly save lives, or send them to the military with no privileges or liberties, but do not resort to so called "legal execution."
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Post by mattig89ch on Nov 9, 2017 14:19:12 GMT
I am against the Death Penalty. Even if one is a murderer, rapist, or commits capital punishment. That is a difference between me and criminal. I do not support killing for gain or to get even. If we kill them for killing or hurting, are we any better? Let them be used for science to help people and or possibly save lives, or send them to the military with no privileges or liberties, but do not resort to so called "legal execution." So you belive these people should be tortured by scientists, instead of being simply executed? I supposed a remaining life of torture might be a worse fate, then a simple execution. But how is that better?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Nov 9, 2017 16:02:00 GMT
Torture is subhuman. It lowers everyone involved.
Public execution isn't torture.
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There is a line. You might have trouble discerning it, but rest assured it has always been there.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Nov 9, 2017 17:57:12 GMT
I say let the victim(s) decided their fate once their proven guilty.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Nov 9, 2017 18:36:33 GMT
Dissenting opinion: I am completely against Capital Punishment. There are many issues which make me question the efficacy and morality of the death penalty including the disproportionate number of death sentences handed to minorities, the very high cost of multiple appeals and decades of death-row imprisonment (in the US, particularly), evidence showing that the death penalty does not consistently work as a deterrent, the notable number of innocents who are executed, and finally, the act itself violating the dignity and integrity of an autonomous human being, particularly when those calling for it are focused more on misguided vengeance rather than impartial justice.
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