** THE RETURN OF STANRY ROO HAS RETURNED **

But who even cares or has the time to care about something as trivial as that? Is your workplace really so mundane or relaxed that people get together to come up with new ways of getting insulted. 

And yes isn't there an actual reason why guys are generally preferred for the more labor intensive work, namely biology. Who even gets offended at these?

Yes but that's okay because these new gender equality laws mean that I now get to breastfeed the baby as well. Biology can go fuck itself, hell yeah!

Oh and no more helping with opening jars either, that's a goddamn microaggression and she better watch it! 

Lets keep the Political Correctness of world in the shitty movie theaters. Not this awesome forum section.

I did go around asking my male coworkers how they felt about it. They didn't care for the most part, and one who was a bodybuilder liked getting to show off. I think it was more of an opportunity for the minorities and women in the room to experience the "wait, people are upset about that?" moment that caucasian men must feel all the time. (Good to experience something from a different perspective.)

Also, it does come up at my work because there is quite a bit of lifting of stuff and if the guys are seen letting the women do it they probably would get marked down as "lazy," whereas if the women let the men do everything it's just brushed off as normal. That's not fair, is it? Everyone should be expected to work.

You sort of answered yourself there. The only stated emotional reaction was from the shiva kid and the most that amounted to was "I'm not thrilled"

Shit happens, and nowhere is that more true than the dregs of the internet. Thankfully the dregs of the internet are pretty self contained and thus easy to ignore. Unless you're the victim of a targeted campaign and by that I mean it goes beyond 4chan or Youtube comments and it spills over into your social media, your email or God forbid, RL, why should it affect you? Yes anonymous assholes are talking shit about you on the internet. Does it affect your work, your school, your personal relationships in real life (or on your personal internet stomping grounds?) If not, then maybe you should ignore it, since for you it may be a tragedy but for the internet, it's Tuesday. And the internet is nothing if not fickle with the attention span of a gnat (provided you don't engage them and give them new ammunition). On Wednesday it'll be some other dumb thing they go off about.

It's shitty and I'm not suggesting you condone or even like it. But it is reality. And awareness brings understanding. If you're aware of how the internet works, then you should know what to

Viral video views number in the millions. 248k is nothing. Check out the gamefaqs forum, there was a thread that specifically asked what "ding dong bannu" was. As far as memes go, this one seems to be pretty isolated to BSNers disseminating to other communities. I'd list it as sub-viral at best.

People may take it personally but I would argue a true racist doesn't mean it personally at all. In order for that to happen he'd have to acknowledge the person behind the ethnicity. And the whole fundamental problem with racism is that it doesn't do that, it reduces people to only their race and disparages them for it. Actually you could extend that argument to the other side as well. Racism has drawn a line in the sand. These days we frown on the line. But people who keep using their positions relative to the line as a primary identifier are still contributing to keeping that line alive.

I am white, but that is just one fact about me, that is not a crucial piece of my identity. I don't feel any particular solidarity to other white people the way I might for fellow Canadians or those with stated similar interests or views to my own. You may argue that's because I'm not a minority and have not been singled out at any point for the color of my skin. Fair enough. But the goal is to get rid of all that shit altogether, yes? So if I may ask, would racial solidarity still matter if that was attained? Do you think being black, Asian, Hispanic etc. should still be a crucial aspect of one's identity? I submit that it should not, because in that case the only one keeping the divide alive is you. You're singling yourself out for being different. Now, we haven't eliminated racism altogether but we have established that the lines are drawn from both sides. So when I come back and say the racist doesn't mean it personally, I can say you too, should not take it personally, because by doing so, you are confirming the racist's supposition that you are your race first, everything else second. The racist says "you are [black/Asian/Hispanic/etc] and thus inferior" and you reply "yes I am [black/Asian/Hispanic/etc] and how dare you?". Instead you should be saying "I am a person who happens to represent [blacks/Asians/Hispanics/etc], among many other things, and what you have said is unfounded and ignorant".

Because as soon as he was able to, he changed it? "Ninja Stan" is pretty transparent but still a distinct distancing from the real Stanley Woo. And the videos weren't attacking the person or persona, they were attacking his actions.

And if I disagree Woo's meme is about him specifically, I also disagree it gives him personally the same kind of exposure for good or bad as Scumbag Steve or any of the other image macro memes. Google Stanley Woo. You get that one picture of him with fairy wings (which he posted) and maybe a few others that are heavily cropped and clearly from a few years ago. Now google Scumbag Steve or Bad Luck Brian and you can find what these people look like today. Woo's search results turn up plenty of complaints regarding his conduct but that would've happened even without the meme. The point is, the meme doesn't expose him personally at all. It only maybe points a few more people to some posts documenting some dick moves he pulled a few years ago, if they bother searching his real name at all. I've known about "ding dong bannu" for years and it's the first time I'm googling him.

This is deliberate, because as I said, words are arbitrary. I can change red from a color, to an object, to an emotion, to a slur and finally to a number. It is not beholden to being any of those things over another. It's only what I make it.

You answer yourself below:
Would a kickass football team not progress this cause? Maybe they're not so hot on the field but if they also donated to charity, set up after school programs and generally worked to improve their community to the point where people go "Redskins? They're a goddamn inspiration!" I don't see how this is anything but a good thing.

Maybe that's what the concept started as. But these there's too many agendas and people taking it too far.

No, the intent was to satirize the behavior to the point of absurdity in order to point out the bad things about it. And for the lulz. Woo's intent was not kindness despite his "be excellent to each other" quote. In an ideal world we would respond to kindness with kindness and to everything else with kindness still. In the real world, not so much. We're getting into "turn the other cheek" territory and while it's a noble ideal, I don't think it's a reasonable expectation of the medium.

And I disagree race was used as a pressure point. Race was used as a means, it was not the end itself.

It's neither and it should never be considered as such. This is one example of the absurdity of the concept "we are all equal".

Really? Do you expect the same amount of physical work from a 6ft, 250lb man as from a 5.5ft, 110lb woman?  

And that is the main difference between PC and common sense. Whereas PC tries and fails spectacularly to give a recipe for everything concerning human interaction, common sense will never fail you because it starts with the obvious question "whom am I interacting with?".

Well, we've both had our say and I don't think either of us will convince the other. Thanks for having a civil discussion, though!

Is it considered a microaggression when a thread gives me cancer?

Shinobu This is the internet. Everyone here is racist, sexist, whatewer-ist, anti-whatever-ist, fucking asshole or just dumb as fuck. Most are combination of many. Being offended by something that isn't directed at you is, I'd say stupid, buy that would offend you. Actually, you shouldn't be offended even by stuff anonymously directed at you. My locker at work says: ASSLICKER, COCKSUCKER and I'M GAY. First time I saw that, 10 years ago, I laughed that some anonymous asshole had to write that, too much of a coward to say it to my face. If he did, I'd laugh in his face and then say something extremely inappropriate and/or sarcastic.

Lifting stuff where I work has rules, women can lift up to 25kg, men are usually on 'if you can lift it, you can lift it' basis. There's some limit, but nobody cares. General rule of lifting: Man says it's too heavy, other men laugh at him. Woman says it's too heavy, all men within earshot race to be the first to help her. That's how evolution meant it.

rygelthe16th Ahem, CrutchCricket is totally right. You just, for some reason, misunderstood what he meant. Meaning of words is arbitrary and transient and being offended by them is, again, stupid (substitute with something that doesn't offend you) comes to mind. Also, accommodating all those overly sensitive people offended by anything and everything is hilariously stupid, because they will find new ways to be offended and next thing you know you can't even write or talk at all. Kill that PC bullshit with fire.

Thank you for your feedback. Allow me to suggest something in return: the next time you choose to reply to me (or anyone else for that matter) dial down the emotional kneejerk and dial up the reading comprehension.

Until then, send all further comments or complaints to /dev/null.

Fair enough. My thanks to you as well for discussing in good faith