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Post by majesticjazz on Nov 16, 2017 13:11:52 GMT
First Mass Effect game not to get a single nomination. All other three were nominated for GoTY and ME2 was ROBBED. Although Red Dead is a superb game. But then, did anyone expect something different? The only good thing that Andromeda has going for it is that Battlefront 2 manage to be steal the show of horrors. Not only first ME game to not get nominations but also the lowest reviewed ME game. Stuff like this matters when deciding to do a MEA2 with Ryder or going in a completely new direction such as a hard reboot of the entire ME or a soft reboot of Andromeda.
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Post by river82 on Nov 16, 2017 13:17:53 GMT
In fact if BotW earns a lot of awards Ill be genuinely surprised since its mediocre(still much better than ME:A). TBH it's my favourite to win GOTY this year, not because it was incredibly entertaining or the perfect specimen of gaming bliss but because it evolved the open world genre. Too many open world games guide the player's passage through the game with side quests and checklists, so one player's experience is essentially the same as another person's experience despite being open world. BOTW emphasised player freedom in a way few games do, a game where the player decides how to do things. It makes each player's experience unique to them and really showed the way forward for open world games even more than the Witcher did
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Post by rahavan on Nov 16, 2017 13:26:52 GMT
In fact if BotW earns a lot of awards Ill be genuinely surprised since its mediocre(still much better than ME:A). TBH it's my favourite to win GOTY this year, not because it was incredibly entertaining or the perfect specimen of gaming bliss but because it evolved the open world genre. Too many open world games guide the player's passage through the game with side quests and checklists, so one player's experience is essentially the same as another person's experience despite being open world. BOTW emphasised player freedom in a way few games do, a game where the player decides how to do things. It makes each player's experience unique to them and really showed the way forward for open world games even more than the Witcher did I would disagree because of TES series. Pretty much everyone has unique stories about skyrim (usually due to a comedy of errors). BotW was only an amazing zelda/nintendo game not an amazing game. If you view it outside the lens of Nintendo games it doesn't hold up as well. Its still really fun and well designed but I think divinity 2 will beat a lot of the games when it comes to rpg elements.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Nov 16, 2017 13:29:28 GMT
Man I look at this string of people getting triggered and its quite hilarious. MEA was never going to get nominated for awards. There were too many well designed games released this year. You don't get awards for being a fan fav you get awards for producing a good well built game. In fact if BotW earns a lot of awards Ill be genuinely surprised since its mediocre(still much better than ME:A). To the people who think that awards don't matter should never go into any entertainment industry they're quite a big deal. Luckily enough the right people will and have taken note that MEA was not up to par and will hopefully make better decisions in the future. Exactly Some people here want to dismiss this but for game publishers, it matters from a PR and Marketing perspective. It matters cause it gives developers/publishers marketing and PR momentum for follow-on games as well as credibility. For EA, stuff like this could mean that the next ME game (if we get one) will be on a new setting and characters and style. Something different from MEA meaning that MEA2 is off the table. So, by your logic any games/media that don't win awards shouldn't get sequels? If I'm understanding what your saying. The gaming industry/media would be a much different place if that's what your saying. Devs would take less risks as a result. If the ultimatum is "you must win awards or otherwise you're not getting a sequel" then Assassin's Creed shouldn't have had a yearly release after AC2 (I don't know if AC1 won or was nominated for anything) nor should there be a Call of Duty or Battlefield every year. Cause those games surely don't win every year or get nominated. Sorry, but sales is the most important when it comes to media getting sequels. All the GOTY is so they can put a GOTY edition that'll sell more copies.
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Post by Superhik on Nov 16, 2017 13:40:38 GMT
TBH it's my favourite to win GOTY this year, not because it was incredibly entertaining or the perfect specimen of gaming bliss but because it evolved the open world genre. Too many open world games guide the player's passage through the game with side quests and checklists, so one player's experience is essentially the same as another person's experience despite being open world. BOTW emphasised player freedom in a way few games do, a game where the player decides how to do things. It makes each player's experience unique to them and really showed the way forward for open world games even more than the Witcher did I would disagree because of TES series. Pretty much everyone has unique stories about skyrim (usually due to a comedy of errors). BotW was only an amazing zelda/nintendo game not an amazing game. If you view it outside the lens of Nintendo games it doesn't hold up as well. Its still really fun and well designed but I think divinity 2 will beat a lot of the games when it comes to rpg elements. Lol, I'll butt in here, but I've no idea what you two are smoking out there. The game that did move sandbox/OW games forward and was horrendously overlooked ( that big enough word? astronomically?) is Mount and Blade ( series). "Freedom" in either Zelda or Skyrim is extremely shallow...go ahead and run in whatever direction. Zelda has physics and far more interaction with the world, Skyrim has more quests/npcs and locations...but it's only a "choice" of do it now, do it later, or don't do it all. In M&B character build, world and factions, economy, dynamic events, reputation and relationships...are all closely connected and interact with one another. You can have drastically different experience, who will be your friend or rival, if you change only one of it's "building blocks".
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 16, 2017 14:07:33 GMT
I would disagree because of TES series. Pretty much everyone has unique stories about skyrim (usually due to a comedy of errors). BotW was only an amazing zelda/nintendo game not an amazing game. If you view it outside the lens of Nintendo games it doesn't hold up as well. Its still really fun and well designed but I think divinity 2 will beat a lot of the games when it comes to rpg elements. Lol, I'll butt in here, but I've no idea what you two are smoking out there. The game that did move sandbox/OW games forward and was horrendously overlooked ( that big enough word? astronomically?) is Mount and Blade ( series). "Freedom" in either Zelda or Skyrim is extremely shallow...go ahead and run in whatever direction. Zelda has physics and far more interaction with the world, Skyrim has more quests/npcs and locations...but it's only a "choice" of do it now, do it later, or don't do it all. In M&B character build, world and factions, economy, dynamic events, reputation and relationships...are all closely connected and interact with one another. You can have drastically different experience, who will be your friend or rival, if you change only one of it's "building blocks". M&B isn't really something I'd put into an OW drawer. I get what you mean tho - the other agents (lords) were dynamic and the wars would shift the borders and that.
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Post by rahavan on Nov 16, 2017 14:19:01 GMT
I would disagree because of TES series. Pretty much everyone has unique stories about skyrim (usually due to a comedy of errors). BotW was only an amazing zelda/nintendo game not an amazing game. If you view it outside the lens of Nintendo games it doesn't hold up as well. Its still really fun and well designed but I think divinity 2 will beat a lot of the games when it comes to rpg elements. Lol, I'll butt in here, but I've no idea what you two are smoking out there. The game that did move sandbox/OW games forward and was horrendously overlooked ( that big enough word? astronomically?) is Mount and Blade ( series). "Freedom" in either Zelda or Skyrim is extremely shallow...go ahead and run in whatever direction. Zelda has physics and far more interaction with the world, Skyrim has more quests/npcs and locations...but it's only a "choice" of do it now, do it later, or don't do it all. In M&B character build, world and factions, economy, dynamic events, reputation and relationships...are all closely connected and interact with one another. You can have drastically different experience, who will be your friend or rival, if you change only one of it's "building blocks". You're right I completely forgot about mount and blade existing because A: I never played it and B: its pretty outdated. From what I understand of it is that its character driven with little story. Most games are about a good story not RPing a character in the world that's given to you. That said though, I have a new game to play xD
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Post by stealthfox94 on Nov 16, 2017 16:14:03 GMT
Man I look at this string of people getting triggered and its quite hilarious. MEA was never going to get nominated for awards. There were too many well designed games released this year. You don't get awards for being a fan fav you get awards for producing a good well built game. In fact if BotW earns a lot of awards Ill be genuinely surprised since its mediocre(still much better than ME:A). To the people who think that awards don't matter should never go into any entertainment industry they're quite a big deal. Luckily enough the right people will and have taken note that MEA was not up to par and will hopefully make better decisions in the future. That's part of the reason I'm changing career plans. Award shows are silly, I don't even care if something I like gets an award or not.
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 16, 2017 16:19:32 GMT
In fact if BotW earns a lot of awards Ill be genuinely surprised since its mediocre(still much better than ME:A). To the people who think that awards don't matter should never go into any entertainment industry they're quite a big deal. It's especially useful when it comes to Sundance stuff. If it was the best pick at Sundance, I know not to see it, because it'll probably be paint-drying-ly boring.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 16:24:30 GMT
So me liking a game is juvenile now? How old are you? Your mental fortitude seems equal to "I don't like that game so no one else should". Did I pin you down right? Man Nier is targeted to kids, a girl with a bondage outfit where i can see her PANTIES and the cliche anime "long pause, say something". Also the whole story is crap. iwas expecting a story to be told not some ambigus wannabe philosophical BS with cheesy metaphors, man the whole meatbox, souls box ect , the whole theme park with the unexplained happybots, the castlle with the king babybot (WTF!). All juvenile, you want me to belive that there is a babybot? also A2 wow! great backstory explained! not! but oh! i forgot! spoilers ****A2 who had the soul (LOL) of 2b ("to be" get it?) in her sword (LOL) died from 9s sword , whereas 9s always somehow was killing 2b. great sense of tragic irony. fantastic writing. LOL*** So yeah adromeda as medium is way more thoughtfull than Nier. Nier is pretentious and it drives me nuts howpeople fall for that. Yes, cause the ME:A is the epitome of a sophisticated story...end sarcasm. Lets be honest here, your just pissed off because the game didn't have any sex right? I feel you're just really butthurt about this and need a time out... You can come out of time out when you know how to use your big boy words...
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Post by majesticjazz on Nov 16, 2017 16:30:11 GMT
Exactly Some people here want to dismiss this but for game publishers, it matters from a PR and Marketing perspective. It matters cause it gives developers/publishers marketing and PR momentum for follow-on games as well as credibility. For EA, stuff like this could mean that the next ME game (if we get one) will be on a new setting and characters and style. Something different from MEA meaning that MEA2 is off the table. So, by your logic any games/media that don't win awards shouldn't get sequels? When all previous entries not only was nominated for awards, but won many of them, including RPG of the Year/Best Writing/GOTY, that sort of sets a standard and expectations....things that ALL businesses adhere to. If the New England Patriots, Duke/UNC/Kentuky NCAA Basketball teams, Alabama NCAA Football and Golden State Warriors do not win a championships this season, it would be a disappointment to the fans/owners/staff and it would be considered a failed season? Why? Because all those mentioned teams have in the past years set a standard that they are championship calibur teams and that is the new expectation. However a team like the Cleveland Browns, who hasn't made the playoffs in ages, simply making the playoff is considered a highly successful season despite not winning the championship while the Patriots just making the playoffs is considered the norm and nothing really to celebrate. So when the past 3 ME titles, all received industry recognition (through awards) to include GOTY, it is kind of expected that MEA is held to the same standard, wouldn't you agree? And when MEA fails to live up to that standard, isn't that an obvious diversion from the standard that has been set by ME1, ME2, and ME3? Again, you can hedge on this and blow it off all you want because you know this isn't the most positive look for MEA and of course you enjoyed the game so by default, you are going to defend it. But defend it all you want and ignore the who awards all you want because there is nothing that I can or will do to convince you. All I will say is what I have always said, that from a PR and Marketing perspective, these are things that publishers care about and things they look at (including sales and review scores) when making decisions to green light sequel projects such as MEA2.
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Post by natetrace on Nov 16, 2017 16:31:44 GMT
Fortunately I care not about who wins game awards. I care about reveals. I liked Andromeda but I never thought it would win an award unless it was like a game razzie. I don't see it as being that bad but hey it's popular to hate, right? I figure this year will be more Hideo Death Stranding smooching anyway. I'm interested in it but damn I thought last year he'd survived the holocaust and Geoff was going to plant one on him.
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Post by vallixas on Nov 16, 2017 16:33:30 GMT
Andromeda characters can't even get recognition on Rule34 for the most part ha. Lol, right? No hilarious sex gifs even in sight ( probably with better facial animatons, too). Mass Effect used to be pride of game porn community. Now Overwatch is the king! Friggin MacCready of Fallout 4 has more naughty tumblr/rule34 content than the Andromeda characters. And a lot of people hated that mofo. Just wow. Oh and don't bring Paladin Danse into the picture, never thought i'd see the day where a male companion has more artwork than the females. Also never thought i'd see the day Bethesda companions would get more artwork than Bioware's. And a lot of it is legit quality. Look at these portraits of Danse and Nick. We get nothing like that for Andromeda comps. There's not even one of rule34 of Liam, that's how you know he really is the most hated ha.
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Post by The Twilight God on Nov 16, 2017 16:38:36 GMT
So? Five fucks? One for each digit? Or has she stuffed all 10 in there?
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Post by stealthfox94 on Nov 16, 2017 16:40:36 GMT
Lol, right? No hilarious sex gifs even in sight ( probably with better facial animatons, too). Mass Effect used to be pride of game porn community. Now Overwatch is the king! Friggin MacCready of Fallout 4 has more naughty tumblr/rule34 content than the Andromeda characters. And a lot of people hated that mofo. Just wow. Oh and don't bring Paladin Danse into the picture. Never thought i'd see the day Bethesda ccmpanions would get more artwork than Bethesda's. And a lot of it is legit quality. Look at this portrait of Danse. There's not even one of Liam, that's how you know he really is the most hated ha. Try again.
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Post by vallixas on Nov 16, 2017 16:47:02 GMT
^ Liam Kosta rule34 - 0 results. And all his art on Tumblr is amateur cartoony stuffs for the most part lol. Reyes has more stuff and he's not even a companion heh.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 16, 2017 17:04:33 GMT
Man I look at this string of people getting triggered and its quite hilarious. MEA was never going to get nominated for awards. There were too many well designed games released this year. You don't get awards for being a fan fav you get awards for producing a good well built game. In fact if BotW earns a lot of awards Ill be genuinely surprised since its mediocre(still much better than ME:A). To the people who think that awards don't matter should never go into any entertainment industry they're quite a big deal. Luckily enough the right people will and have taken note that MEA was not up to par and will hopefully make better decisions in the future. So people who disagree are offended?
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Post by stealthfox94 on Nov 16, 2017 17:13:30 GMT
Man I look at this string of people getting triggered and its quite hilarious. MEA was never going to get nominated for awards. There were too many well designed games released this year. You don't get awards for being a fan fav you get awards for producing a good well built game. In fact if BotW earns a lot of awards Ill be genuinely surprised since its mediocre(still much better than ME:A). To the people who think that awards don't matter should never go into any entertainment industry they're quite a big deal. Luckily enough the right people will and have taken note that MEA was not up to par and will hopefully make better decisions in the future. So people who disagree are offended? I find this comment offensive.
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Post by vonuber on Nov 16, 2017 18:31:35 GMT
^ Liam Kosta rule34 - 0 results. And all his art on Tumblr is amateur cartoony stuffs for the most part lol. Reyes has more stuff and he's not even a companion heh. What a strange thing to be worried about.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 16, 2017 18:32:16 GMT
So? Five fucks? One for each digit? Or has she stuffed all 10 in there?
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Post by Superhik on Nov 16, 2017 19:35:24 GMT
^ Liam Kosta rule34 - 0 results. And all his art on Tumblr is amateur cartoony stuffs for the most part lol. Reyes has more stuff and he's not even a companion heh. What a strange thing to be worried about. it's about inspiring your audience to their own creative endeavours, lol. And common, this is BSN, there are way weird-er things going on about in romance discussion threads.
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Post by vallixas on Nov 16, 2017 20:22:28 GMT
^ Liam Kosta rule34 - 0 results. And all his art on Tumblr is amateur cartoony stuffs for the most part lol. Reyes has more stuff and he's not even a companion heh. What a strange thing to be worried about. We're having a random fun discussion, can't see worry anywhere in those two sentences. Don't be so dramatic.
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Post by cypherj on Nov 16, 2017 20:26:01 GMT
NieR: Automata should win best score hands down.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Nov 16, 2017 22:23:28 GMT
I refuse to recognize any gaming awards until Tetris wins GOTC!!!
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Post by Kroitz on Nov 16, 2017 22:31:48 GMT
NieR: Automata should win best score hands down.
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