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Post by Space Cowboy on Jun 12, 2018 17:12:39 GMT
This may be an indication we need to rethink the rules for this new style. My role is to tell people, truthfully or not, who people voted for. Players are used to just discussing this. Even if they didn't., if I said Reed changed votes. Fylimar would just say I'm lying so not sure if that sort of questioning is going to work?
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 12, 2018 17:13:12 GMT
Miranda saved the victim. I have changed the description to say “save” instead of “bring back”.
Voting is supposed to be secret so that Space has the chance to lie to protect the other spy. Think about it: if you reveal all the voting, then not only do the heroes potentially get all the same info that they would have under the old rules, but they also get 2-3 pieces of true additional info from space. The old game was hard enough for the spies as it was.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2018 17:27:31 GMT
Voting is supposed to be secret so that Space has the chance to lie to protect the other spy Sorry, my bad since I started this. Well there are still other people we can ask about since only Fylimar and I have said what we did. There is still one other unidentified person who voted for Moonae, two people who voted for me and the people who voted for Reed and Fylimar. So there is plenty still to work with and Space still gets the chance to protect his ally.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 12, 2018 18:25:12 GMT
This may be an indication we need to rethink the rules for this new style. My role is to tell people, truthfully or not, who people voted for. Players are used to just discussing this. Even if they didn't., if I said Reed changed votes. Fylimar would just say I'm lying so not sure if that sort of questioning is going to work? And I would say you're lying as well. I see what you're doing here... trying to throw out misinformation in an "example." Sneaky Spy!
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 12, 2018 18:27:20 GMT
We don't have to make all the questions about the voting choices either. How about returning to some of the earlier suggestions that weren't used last round? For example, is the spy an alien?
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Post by Catilina on Jun 12, 2018 20:41:11 GMT
I didn't vote for Monae, but my vote was totally blind.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 12, 2018 23:39:01 GMT
If you'd all rather discuss your votes, maybe we should make role hints against the rules. Though I recall that rule getting broken quite a lot in the Skyhold game. In any case, Space needs three new questions
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Post by fylimar on Jun 13, 2018 11:30:04 GMT
I agree about the alien question, we should use that.
Plus would it help to ask, if the spy has biotic abilities?
Since it is the first round, I don't see much sense to ask voting questions
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Post by pelassarias on Jun 13, 2018 19:14:30 GMT
I agree with flyimar about the voting questions, mainly because it is the first round so far and there is only one spy. At this point, the spy could have voted for Moonae or anyone else. Plus, I also feel a bit bad that I know more than I should have about who voted for who, so I think we probably shouldn't know any more about voting until the next round. I think maybe we should try to narrow the field down a little bit more and try to exonerate some of the male roles. So yeah, I'm thinking about asking Space about the spy's specialty/class and whether or not he's an alien. I could ask if if his class is a mixed/hybrid or not for the two questions, and then ask whether or not he's an alien. And of course, I'm open to more feedback/suggestions.
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Obsidian Gryphon
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 13, 2018 23:31:00 GMT
You guys are still live I see. But getting lost, going by the subject title. Coming back for next round? Probably.
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Post by fylimar on Jun 14, 2018 5:10:23 GMT
Coming back for next round? Probably. Yay
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Post by romice on Jun 14, 2018 7:19:51 GMT
I like pela's suggestions about class and race of the spy. My idea would be to ask if he's romanceable by Shepard.
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STB Sgt Reed
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um, 17?
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 14, 2018 13:17:18 GMT
Well, I need to refresh myself on whatever the heck we learned last round cause it's been awhile.
(after looking back like 5 pages) So, we learned that the spy is probably a male character. Good to know. Now, to check who the male roles are...
So there is: Garrus, Javik, Wrex, Kaidan, Legion?
That's a short list.
But I'm never good at choosing a question. I feel they need to be something that conflicts with each other like the previous round of (are they male/female) and then one obvious one so that it's hard to lie.
The already proposed questions are: Are they alien? Which I'm guessing would garner a "yes" answer being that the majority of those 5 are alien. What if we asked if they are human as well? Only one is human...
Then make the third question something obvious he would want to lie about. Idk how specific we can get, but Garrus would be easy to single out, so if we make him lie about this one, we'll find out whether they are alien or not for sure. So Garrus has been a squadmate in all 3 games and been on all 3 Normandys, the others have not. So I think we need to work a question in there that would point to Garrus.
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Post by fylimar on Jun 14, 2018 14:47:01 GMT
Well, I need to refresh myself on whatever the heck we learned last round cause it's been awhile. (after looking back like 5 pages) So, we learned that the spy is probably a male character. Good to know. Now, to check who the male roles are... So there is: Garrus, Javik, Wrex, Kaidan, Legion? That's a short list. But I'm never good at choosing a question. I feel they need to be something that conflicts with each other like the previous round of (are they male/female) and then one obvious one so that it's hard to lie. The already proposed questions are: Are they alien? Which I'm guessing would garner a "yes" answer being that the majority of those 5 are alien. What if we asked if they are human as well? Only one is human... Then make the third question something obvious he would want to lie about. Idk how specific we can get, but Garrus would be easy to single out, so if we make him lie about this one, we'll find out whether they are alien or not for sure. So Garrus has been a squadmate in all 3 games and been on all 3 Normandys, the others have not. So I think we need to work a question in there that would point to Garrus. Maybe the romance option? That would point to Garrus and Kaidan. And the class option - if you want to filter Garrus out, maybe ask if the spy has Garruses class? But can we ask, if the spy is a Turian Agent? I think, that was his class. Or we can simply ask, if the spy has Infiltrator-like abilities, since none of the others has that class? I'm not sure about Javik, since I don't know who that is apart from playing this game, he tells sad stories, that makes others unable to do anything, but that's all.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 14, 2018 14:50:48 GMT
Well, I need to refresh myself on whatever the heck we learned last round cause it's been awhile. (after looking back like 5 pages) So, we learned that the spy is probably a male character. Good to know. Now, to check who the male roles are... So there is: Garrus, Javik, Wrex, Kaidan, Legion? That's a short list. But I'm never good at choosing a question. I feel they need to be something that conflicts with each other like the previous round of (are they male/female) and then one obvious one so that it's hard to lie. The already proposed questions are: Are they alien? Which I'm guessing would garner a "yes" answer being that the majority of those 5 are alien. What if we asked if they are human as well? Only one is human... Then make the third question something obvious he would want to lie about. Idk how specific we can get, but Garrus would be easy to single out, so if we make him lie about this one, we'll find out whether they are alien or not for sure. So Garrus has been a squadmate in all 3 games and been on all 3 Normandys, the others have not. So I think we need to work a question in there that would point to Garrus. Maybe the romance option? That would point to Garrus and Kaidan. And the class option - if you want to filter Garrus out, maybe ask if the spy has Garruses class? But can we ask, if the spy is a Turian Agent? I think, that was his class. Or we can simply ask, if the spy has Infiltrator-like abilities, since none of the others has that class? I'm not sure about Javik, since I don't know who that is apart from playing this game, he tells sad stories, that makes others unable to do anything, but that's all. Read spoiler at your own risk. lol Javik is the last surviving prothean, He's a ME3 dlc character.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 14, 2018 14:53:33 GMT
I just thought I ought to point out the following: Did your accomplice serve on each version of the Normandy?They have never been on the Normandy. Whilst the question was specific about asking if the person had served on the Normandy, whilst we know the answer was a lie (by a process of elimination with the other questions) it was also non-specific. So it does not necessarily mean that the person has served on each version of the Normandy but only that they have been on the Normandy at some point. So each male candidates would still be covered by this answer.
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Post by fylimar on Jun 14, 2018 14:55:03 GMT
Maybe the romance option? That would point to Garrus and Kaidan. And the class option - if you want to filter Garrus out, maybe ask if the spy has Garruses class? But can we ask, if the spy is a Turian Agent? I think, that was his class. Or we can simply ask, if the spy has Infiltrator-like abilities, since none of the others has that class? I'm not sure about Javik, since I don't know who that is apart from playing this game, he tells sad stories, that makes others unable to do anything, but that's all. Read spoiler at your own risk. lol Javik is the last surviving prothean, He's a ME3 dlc character. Thanks, since I'm not sure, I will ever make it that far, the spoiler is absolutely ok
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 14, 2018 14:55:59 GMT
But can we ask, if the spy is a Turian Agent? I don't think we are allowed to be that specific. That is why asking if they have biotic abilities would be allowable because it is more general. Ditto specifying any other ability that more than one person might have but, together with other questions, might allow you to narrow down the field of suspicion to just one person.
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Post by fylimar on Jun 14, 2018 14:57:09 GMT
But can we ask, if the spy is a Turian Agent? I don't think we are allowed to be that specific. That is why asking if they have biotic abilities would be allowable because it is more general. Yes, I think you are right
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Post by pelassarias on Jun 14, 2018 17:48:14 GMT
Actually, now that I've seen the list of possible suspects again, I have a question regarding Legion. Would he count as an alien? I personally think so, but I kind of want to know what you guys think. I definitely like the love interest question since the question can possibly exonerate a powerful role and a role that can safely hint without the risk of them getting killed the next night. So if you guys want to figure out whether or not Garrus and Kaidan are innocent we should definitely go for the love interest question for the first two questions, and probably ask the alien question for the third. If we ask the alien question along with the love interest questions, it is possible we can narrow the suspect down to one person, if we're lucky. If we can't, then we'll be able to narrow it down to three. Also I think I have some idea of who could possibly be genetically perfect, so I suppose it's alright to remain in the shadows for now as long as the Miranda player isn't at risk of being voted off. Unless the Miranda player has already hinted and I just didn't catch it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 14, 2018 17:59:35 GMT
Actually, now that I've seen the list of possible suspects again, I have a question regarding Legion. Would he count as an alien I think he counts as alien if you take a broad approach to the meaning (anything not human is alien) but does (he) actually count as male? I'm thinking he does since we regard EDI as female but she does have the advantage of a female shaped body whereas Legion is a flash light on top of a robot body, so what does everyone else think?
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jun 14, 2018 18:17:12 GMT
I think it's better to include Legion than not, because we could be missing the spy should Space have counted him as male in his previous answers.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 14, 2018 23:21:48 GMT
I find this discussion...interesting. As a reminder, if I think a question is too specific, I won't allow it. Otherwise, it would just be a matter of the heroes lasting enough rounds to narrow down the options, giving the villains no chance to win. Thanks, since I'm not sure, I will ever make it that far, the spoiler is absolutely ok How far along are you?
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Post by fylimar on Jun 15, 2018 4:47:31 GMT
I find this discussion...interesting. As a reminder, if I think a question is too specific, I won't allow it. Otherwise, it would just be a matter of the heroes lasting enough rounds to narrow down the options, giving the villains no chance to win. Thanks, since I'm not sure, I will ever make it that far, the spoiler is absolutely ok How far along are you? Still in ME2. I got soo bored with the fighting and the similar approach to most missions, that I needed a break.
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Post by dragontartare on Jun 15, 2018 5:17:21 GMT
I find this discussion...interesting. As a reminder, if I think a question is too specific, I won't allow it. Otherwise, it would just be a matter of the heroes lasting enough rounds to narrow down the options, giving the villains no chance to win. How far along are you? Still in ME2. I got soo bored with the fighting and the similar approach to most missions, that I needed a break. Aw Do you have the difficulty turned down so that you can get through fights more easily, at least?
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