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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 19, 2018 7:30:34 GMT
Damn it, I missed that. Then we lost Grunt for nothing. Well, almost nothing. We know that Kasumi is evil. So that accounts for why they were keeping quiet about their identity. Okay, that still means we have 3 potential spies, Reed, Romice and Catilina as everyone else still surviving has been cleared. Anybody got an idea what Catilina was hinting at about his identity? I may not do the best decisions always, but I want to fix my bad decisions. I'm a hero – mostly.
This could be Mordin but in that case I sincerely hope he isn't an evil Mordin or we could be in big trouble. Does anyone have reason to believe that Mordin is in the game?
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Post by Moonae on Sept 19, 2018 9:01:16 GMT
If that's a Mordin hint then it narrows my suspect list down to Romice and Reed. It's technically possible for Mordin to be evil, but I'm just gonna go ahead and vote for Reed. 2/3 shot anyway.
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Post by fylimar on Sept 19, 2018 9:27:22 GMT
Well at least I was right about Moonae. That was really bad luck, that the spies blocked Moonae and did go after me. I agree that reed, romice and Cati a likely suspects here (since Mordin can be evil)
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 19, 2018 12:40:25 GMT
The crux of the matter is whether both spies were voting for Dusty. If not, then Catilina has to be a spy since every other person who voted for Romice is a proven hero.
The fact that Catilina voted for Romice proves nothing about Romice since it seems to be an established spy ploy to vote for one of their own to deflect suspicion that the two are collaborating. Catilina also did this early when it might not have seemed to place Romice in much danger.
Romice also voted for Moonae and only switched votes at the last minute to save herself, not because she accepted that Moonae was someone who should not be voted off. Her original vote for Moonae was after I had moved mine though and before it became apparent who Moonae might be. She was also willing to give Dragon the benefit of the doubt before Moonae expressed her confidence. So I am in two minds about Romice at present.
Reed voted for Dusty straight off but it could have just been random. However, I am still slightly bothered by the fact that when the choice was between someone claiming a good role and someone vaguely claiming a hero role, he kept his vote on the former. True, it could have been a false claim but that is equally so of the other person, and keeping his vote on a role that is known can only be good instead of switching to someone whose role could be either good or evil does seem odd. At the time I was making it quite clear that I was regretting my choice and even if Dusty had been claiming the role falsely she could not harm us with it.
I caused some of our problems by being too hasty last round so I am going to be a lot more cautious this one. In view of the doubts concerning Mordin, I am conscious that we can't afford to get it wrong this time.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Sept 19, 2018 13:33:43 GMT
You're conveniently leaving out the part where Dusty was disputing you, a known hero, heavily up until it was basically too late for her. THEN she claimed Jack, which imo at the time could have easily been a way to try to save herself. As stated, I didn't know whether either one was a hero or not, so WHY would I break the tie just to doom one person over the other when they were even in my eyes? That makes no sense. Especially since, even though the suspicion is on me now, it would have been on me even more so had I broken the tie and it turned out Romice was a hero. It would have become "well, Reed switched instead of leaving it tied and now a hero is gone, SPY!"
So to me, leaving it tied was the best course.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 19, 2018 14:47:46 GMT
I haven't voted for you yet, Reed. Would still like more information. You know, like a little clue as to who you might be.
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 19, 2018 16:47:11 GMT
You're conveniently leaving out the part where Dusty was disputing you, a known hero, heavily up until it was basically too late for her. THEN she claimed Jack, which imo at the time could have easily been a way to try to save herself. As stated, I didn't know whether either one was a hero or not, so WHY would I break the tie just to doom one person over the other when they were even in my eyes? That makes no sense. Especially since, even though the suspicion is on me now, it would have been on me even more so had I broken the tie and it turned out Romice was a hero. It would have become "well, Reed switched instead of leaving it tied and now a hero is gone, SPY!" So to me, leaving it tied was the best course. I used the same reasoning, and gervaise thought it was suspicious of me as well. It makes perfect sense to me why dusty looked guilty. You're either another hero who thinks the same way I do, or you're a spy piggybacking on my reasoning. A bit of info on who you are or what else you're thinking would be great, though.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Sept 19, 2018 19:45:46 GMT
You're conveniently leaving out the part where Dusty was disputing you, a known hero, heavily up until it was basically too late for her. THEN she claimed Jack, which imo at the time could have easily been a way to try to save herself. As stated, I didn't know whether either one was a hero or not, so WHY would I break the tie just to doom one person over the other when they were even in my eyes? That makes no sense. Especially since, even though the suspicion is on me now, it would have been on me even more so had I broken the tie and it turned out Romice was a hero. It would have become "well, Reed switched instead of leaving it tied and now a hero is gone, SPY!" So to me, leaving it tied was the best course. I used the same reasoning, and gervaise thought it was suspicious of me as well. It makes perfect sense to me why dusty looked guilty. You're either another hero who thinks the same way I do, or you're a spy piggybacking on my reasoning. A bit of info on who you are or what else you're thinking would be great, though. Well, it seems to me that the last vote made it rather clear (at least in my pov) that the spies must be one of 3 players. Those being yourself, Romice, and Catilina. However, you have been potentially cleared via who we assume to be Liara. Now, I've never actually seen anyone dispute a claim in my time playing the games, but I assume it would happen should there be someone claiming a false role? But, I'd just like to remind everyone that anyone can claim any role in this game... so potentially some clever spy work could always be at play. That said, I'm inclined to believe Liara here due to the lack of dispute of the claim. That leaves only 2 members not cleared in my pov: Romice and Catilina.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 19, 2018 20:39:15 GMT
But, I'd just like to remind everyone that anyone can claim any role in this game... so potentially some clever spy work could always be at play. This was a point that I made during the last round of voting, so once again you are borrowing an idea started by someone else to justify your stance. If Moonae is not Liara then the real Liara should have called it long before now. You are still being coy about who you are but for now I shall assume there is a reason for this other than being spy Kasumi. So since you already have one vote on you, it is in your interests to pick one of the other suspects. Please do so.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Sept 19, 2018 23:35:35 GMT
Now, I've never actually seen anyone dispute a claim in my time playing the games, but I assume it would happen should there be someone claiming a false role? But, I'd just like to remind everyone that anyone can claim any role in this game... so potentially some clever spy work could always be at play. Technically Fylimar did with Pela claiming her Varric last Skyhold game But yeah it's been rare
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 20, 2018 0:58:10 GMT
Well, it seems to me that the last vote made it rather clear (at least in my pov) that the spies must be one of 3 players. Those being yourself, Romice, and Catilina. However, you have been potentially cleared via who we assume to be Liara. Now, I've never actually seen anyone dispute a claim in my time playing the games, but I assume it would happen should there be someone claiming a false role? But, I'd just like to remind everyone that anyone can claim any role in this game... so potentially some clever spy work could always be at play. That said, I'm inclined to believe Liara here due to the lack of dispute of the claim. That leaves only 2 members not cleared in my pov: Romice and Catilina. I'm actually suspicious of you after this post. If you acknowledge that: -- I've been cleared by Liara (which it seems you are not sure of, despite no one objecting to her claim either directly or by voting) -- Moon is Liara -- gervaise is Javik ...then there are only two players left, and they must both be spies. Why would you not just pick one and vote? You would have no chance of being wrong. This makes me think you may be a spy waiting for your partner to get online so you can discuss things further.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Sept 20, 2018 12:21:29 GMT
Well, I was hoping for more responses other than... "well you're suspicious!" before deciding on what to do. Literally the only people to say anything other than me is you and gervaise. What happens if catilina or romice hop and on and claim certain roles or even dispute current role claims? Since I'm under suspicion, I'm trying to be sure and not waste my votes. I've been burned by just trusting blind claims in previous games because contrary to what space said, fylimar didn't dispute the varric claim because we aren't allowed to hint in skyhold and pela claimed varric via pm under my cassandra power.
But if it pleases the court, your majesties, I'll vote for Romice.
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Post by pelassarias on Sept 20, 2018 13:46:51 GMT
What happens if catilina or romice hop and on and claim certain roles or even dispute current role claims? Since I'm under suspicion, I'm trying to be sure and not waste my votes. Well,in your POV and the fact that you trust Liara, Cati and romice claiming roles/counter claiming roles shouldn't matter since they have to be the spies no matter what, unless you're now backpedaling on your initial trust for Liara now.
Also, Cati has already given out a hint so far, although it is a bit vague. So now it's romice, who hasn't been online so far, and you who haven't dished out hints right now
And If you're a role like Emily Wong, by this point you're more than likely not going to be able to use your ability anyway given your situation, so there is not that much of a use for being tight-lipped about your role. And if you're Good Kasumi you would have never said you were inclined to trust Liara during this round at all. And if you're Good Legion or Wrex, you wouldn't spend as much time as defending yourself right now. You would have more than likely welcomed getting voted on.
Unless you're Evil Kasumi,Evil Tali, or Garrus. Then your behavior makes perfect sense right now.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Sept 20, 2018 13:58:34 GMT
What if I told you, there are certain roles where it does not help to hint at them because it would make you more suspicious to the heroes and a nice target for the villains at the same time? And that as such, if the spies knew the role, it'd make the situation worse for the heroes and not by me being eliminated...
ETA: And I said I was inclined to believe moonae because no one has disputed it, but not everyone has hinted, that could change. And I'm not even sure what Catilina said was a hint. How anyone got Mordin out of that is beyond me. lol
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Post by romice on Sept 20, 2018 15:48:45 GMT
Damn, I leave for a couple of days and we lose Grunt From my point of view there is no doubt that Cati and Reed are the spies. Since Reed voted for me, he made my choice of whom to try to vote out first. Reed
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 20, 2018 17:36:15 GMT
And that as such, if the spies knew the role, it'd make the situation worse for the heroes and not by me being eliminated... Well if I understand this hint correctly then for it to impact badly on us, the spies would need to focus on you during the night and there would be no elimination. However, I think they are hardly likely to do that at this stage because that would confirm your claim and the fact that the other person must be the spy. And I'm not even sure what Catilina said was a hint. How anyone got Mordin out of that is beyond me. lol I may not do the best decisions always, but I want to fix my bad decisions. I'm a hero – mostly. This seemed to fit Mordin better than most, although I admit I am not that familiar with Kasumi. I am still waiting for some indication that someone else feels certain that Mordin is in the game. With 3 nights having passed he ought to have given out three protections and, even if evil, could only have given one to his fellow spy. So may be I did jump to the wrong conclusion about Catilina. I'm still going to wait and see what develops before using my vote.
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Post by dragontartare on Sept 20, 2018 18:08:25 GMT
I have thoughts about both Reed and Catilina's hints, but I'm trying not to make posts in haste anymore, so I'll be back with them this evening.
In the mean time, I agree that it would be helpful to hear from Romice and catilina.
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Post by fylimar on Sept 20, 2018 18:33:57 GMT
Well, I was hoping for more responses other than... "well you're suspicious!" before deciding on what to do. Literally the only people to say anything other than me is you and gervaise. What happens if catilina or romice hop and on and claim certain roles or even dispute current role claims? Since I'm under suspicion, I'm trying to be sure and not waste my votes. I've been burned by just trusting blind claims in previous games because contrary to what space said, fylimar didn't dispute the varric claim because we aren't allowed to hint in skyhold and pela claimed varric via pm under my cassandra power. But if it pleases the court, your majesties, I'll vote for Romice. Objection - I did try to reclaim Varric, because Pela hinted not only via pm and I couldn't let that slide. That was the heated discussion, pela and I were having, because rules be damned, if I get my favorite character as a role I won't stand by and let some spy claim said role
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 20, 2018 18:51:33 GMT
Objection - I did try to reclaim Varric, because Pela hinted not only via pm and I couldn't let that slide. The funny thing about that one was that I picked up immediately on the fact that you referred to Catilina/Solas as "Chuckles". We were on tender-hooks that Reed/Cassandra would as well but luckily he didn't and of course it played out perfectly when Varric shot me, so it seemed like Pela had used her ability to prove her identity to him. In a way it couldn't have been better because then we could avoid eliminating the real Varric. The luck was really rolling with us that game.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Sept 20, 2018 19:07:09 GMT
I don't know Dragon Age as well as Mass Effect, so someone calling someone chuckles doesn't really register to me as anything. lol
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Post by pelassarias on Sept 20, 2018 19:29:48 GMT
Okay, so I pretty much got reed's hint. The thing is reed, if you are who you claim you are and if the spies tried to turn you they will get instantly found out at this point in the game. But now I do understand why you were a bit tight-lipped about your role, if you are that role. As for Cati, I think his hint was too vague for us to definitely figure out who he is since several characters have made mistakes in their past or during the trilogy imo. So still have no clue who he is, but if I had to guess, he might be Evil Mordin or Garrus. Also, romice has yet to make a hint, but I don't' think she's Wrex or Legion given her behavior last round. On an unrelated note: Yeah we, meaning mostly gervaise , pretty much caught most of fylimar's hints during that game, so you can imagine my poor spy self sweating about getting caught by Jailor reed . Luckily it all worked out for us in the end, hehe.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Sept 20, 2018 19:55:38 GMT
Okay, so I pretty much got reed's hint. The thing is reed, if you are who you claim you are and if the spies tried to turn you they will get instantly found out at this point in the game. But now I do understand why you were a bit tight-lipped about your role, if you are that role. As for Cati, I think his hint was too vague for us to definitely figure out who he is since several characters have made mistakes in their past or during the trilogy imo. So still have no clue who he is, but if I had to guess, he might be Evil Mordin or Garrus. Also, romice has yet to make a hint, but I don't' think she's Wrex or Legion given her behavior last round. On an unrelated note: Yeah we, meaning mostly gervaise , pretty much caught most of fylimar's hints during that game, so you can imagine my poor spy self sweating about getting caught by Jailor reed . Luckily it all worked out for us in the end, hehe. To be fair, I wanted to execute you but the GM wouldn't let me cause of rules or something. Had to wait, and then the Gervaise elimination to varric happened D: so, even though I didn't get the hint, I wasn't completely fooled until the lucky break happened!!
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Post by Catilina on Sept 20, 2018 20:13:14 GMT
Still Romice. (By the way, another help: I'm not evil.)
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Post by fylimar on Sept 20, 2018 20:19:26 GMT
I don't know Dragon Age as well as Mass Effect, so someone calling someone chuckles doesn't really register to me as anything. lol It's the same with ME for me. I don't get a Lot of hints.
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Post by Catilina on Sept 20, 2018 20:34:50 GMT
I don't know Dragon Age as well as Mass Effect, so someone calling someone chuckles doesn't really register to me as anything. lol It's the same with ME for me. I don't get a Lot of hints.Don't worry, just like me.
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