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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 4, 2018 16:12:03 GMT
Yes, I think Dragon not changing her vote is pretty conclusive evidence as to who she is. Whilst DA can be either good or evil and I have been one of the chief culprits in the past (as a spy) in arguing for voting her off, I think on this occasion we should not regard Diana as expendable. However, it does mean that we can tell nothing from Dragon's voting pattern and giving her the benefit of the doubt leaves me still unsure who to vote for. Everyone seems to have the same shortlist (apart from themselves).
I am somewhat suspicious of Pela. She was following Space's voting last round, changing from Reed to Dragon and then Fylimar after he did, which would be a good tactic by a spy to seem innocent and win that person's trust, plus she then said that she trusts Space without really giving any reason why she should.
So I'll stop sitting on the fence and vote for Pelassarias. However, if further evidence presents itself as to why I should change, then I shall be only too happy to do so.
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Post by pelassarias on Oct 4, 2018 18:32:28 GMT
plus she then said that she trusts Space without really giving any reason why she should. Space was the first player who got your hint and switched to fylimar, this seems to point to him being a Hero, but We could be wrong about this assessment. 
In any rate, we've almost reached a consensus on who could have eliminated Creator Tali'Zorah, but if any other player we've expressed trust in wants to share their input to help us get the spy if we are still at risk of getting eliminated, that would be beneficial.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 4, 2018 19:52:06 GMT
if any other player we've expressed trust in wants to share their input to help us get the spy if we are still at risk of getting eliminated, that would be beneficial.
Oh I entirely agree with you there. After all it doesn't really matter if you are at risk or not, you could exercise your ability regardless, if not this round then later. Thus I sincerely hope you aren't the spy.  However, since that means my vote will be redundant if I leave it where it is, it would be in the interests of Space and Dusty to be a bit more explicit about their identities because at present I am likely to switch to one of them, although it occurs to me that I could be signing my own death warrant once they do, regardless of who is the spy. |
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 4, 2018 20:59:15 GMT
if any other player we've expressed trust in wants to share their input to help us get the spy if we are still at risk of getting eliminated, that would be beneficial.
Oh I entirely agree with you there. After all it doesn't really matter if you are at risk or not, you could exercise your ability regardless, if not this round then later. Thus I sincerely hope you aren't the spy. However, since that means my vote will be redundant if I leave it where it is, it would be in the interests of Space and Dusty to be a bit more explicit about their identities because at present I am likely to switch to one of them, although it occurs to me that I could be signing my own death warrant once they do, regardless of who is the spy. Switching to me would indeed be bad for your health at night. It also disturbed me that my fellow genetically perfect team mate voted for me, given she went to the trouble of saving me the first night. Mumbles something about ungrateful pyjaks.  |
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 4, 2018 21:45:26 GMT
plus she then said that she trusts Space without really giving any reason why she should. Space was the first player who got your hint and switched to fylimar, this seems to point to him being a Hero, but We could be wrong about this assessment.
In any rate, we've almost reached a consensus on who could have eliminated Creator Tali'Zorah, but if any other player we've expressed trust in wants to share their input to help us get the spy if we are still at risk of getting eliminated, that would be beneficial.
Didn't we already have a legion of Pela's in the other thread?  |
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 4, 2018 23:41:29 GMT
Votes
Catilina - 1
Space Cowboy - 1
Pelassarias - 1
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01] Space Cowboy
02] Dustyelf
03] Pelassarias
04] Dragontartare - voted
05] Sgtreed24 - Tali'Zorah vas Normandy
06] Romice - voted
07] Gervaise21 - voted
08] Fylimar - Agent Kaidan
09] Catilina
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 4, 2018 23:55:18 GMT
Well, not much point in voting Pela, since she can just change the vote, regardless of alignment. I remember once upon a time we had discussed having Tali and Legion on the same side. Dont know if that was ever implemented, and it's been a long time since we've seen Legion.
That leaves Dusty and Dragon. I'm not sure which of them to vote for. I guess we have to pick one, and at least narrow down the field. If Dusty is really Garrus, then both evil Garrus and Evil Legion are dangerous to the heroes. Evil Allers not so much I suppose. It's currently 6 to 1. Those are pretty good odds.
I'm going to have to vote Dusty, for now. I'm sorry Dusty, if you are a hero.
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Post by romice on Oct 5, 2018 5:31:26 GMT
Alright Space Grunt, I'll trust you for now. I switch from Space to Dusty
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 5, 2018 7:05:24 GMT
Votes
Catilina - 1
Pelassarias - 1
Dustyelf - 2
Crew
01] Space Cowboy - voted
02] Dustyelf
03] Pelassarias
04] Dragontartare - voted
05] Sgtreed24 - Tali'Zorah vas Normandy
06] Romice - vote change over once
07] Gervaise21 - voted
08] Fylimar - Agent Kaidan
09] Catilina
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 5, 2018 9:42:05 GMT
OT. Omg, I can't believe I put up with it for more than a week. What was it?
For the past couple of weeks, there has been this humming sound from the PC that gradually got louder and louder. I put my ear to it and thought it's the fans in front. I put my ear to the HD too. After consulting a IT friend who said the front chassis must be replaced, I accordingly made arrangements; change chassis and fans, upgrade graphic card and one of the SSDs some time next week.
Just now I found the real culprit. The bloody HD. I disconnected it and I got blessed peace. Blessed peace! I was slowly going mad from the daily dronning hum and I had to increase the volume of music / game sounds / videos just to drown it out. My poor ear drums feel pounded and harassed. My temper wasn't too good either. Gah!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 5, 2018 11:36:02 GMT
OT. Omg, I can't believe I put up with it for more than a week. What was it? For the past couple of weeks, there has been this humming sound from the PC that gradually got louder and louder. I put my ear to it and thought it's the fans in front. I put my ear to the HD too. After consulting a IT friend who said the front chassis must be replaced, I accordingly made arrangements; change chassis and fans, upgrade graphic card and one of the SSDs some time next week. Just now I found the real culprit. The bloody HD. I disconnected it and I got blessed peace. Blessed peace! I was slowly going mad from the daily dronning hum and I had to increase the volume of music / game sounds / videos just to drown it out. My poor ear drums feel pounded and harassed. My temper wasn't too good either. Gah! I get this on my computer sometimes. It gets really loud after starting it up. I found if I put it to sleep when it wakes up its back to normal. Weird. |
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 5, 2018 15:24:33 GMT
I had a computer one time that sounded like a jumbo jet taking off when it was working normally. Thankfully my current PC is mostly quiet.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 5, 2018 15:43:32 GMT
My computer is loud, when it gets started, after that it is thankfully quiet. I demand a bit of entertainment, the prison cells of the Citadel are boring. Don't prisoners have rights? |
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 5, 2018 16:06:00 GMT
My computer is loud, when it gets started, after that it is thankfully quiet. I demand a bit of entertainment, the prison cells of the Citadel are boring. Don't prisoners have rights? Only in Skyhold. There is no trace of self interest in this post.  |
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 5, 2018 16:16:15 GMT
I'm really not sure about this. However, Dusty didn't change her vote to Fylimar last round and has given the vaguest of hints. With other people equally likely to be the target of the spy overnight, she really could risk it. Whilst an evil Garrus could shoot one of us later, we might actually need a good Garrus so I really am torn about what to do for the best. However, Space is right that even if we are wrong we will still be left with 5 heroes to one spy. So with much trepidation, I change my vote from Pelassarias to Dusty.
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Post by pelassarias on Oct 5, 2018 16:49:13 GMT
At this point the only reason why we would use our ability now is if we reached full consensus that dragon is the spy. We have not, in fact, we actually determined that Evil Garrus will be more dangerous than Evil Allers either during the next night or the night after that. So for that reason, our vote will also be on dusty. Also, just to ease anyone's fears, we do want to point out that if we were actually allied with the Old Machines we would have eliminated gervaise during the last round and hinted at another role this round. So yeah, although we have been everywhere lately  , hopefully our actions so far has proven our innocence just a little bit. |
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Post by Catilina on Oct 5, 2018 18:49:42 GMT
Sorry, Dusty... or not sorry... we'll see.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 5, 2018 21:58:42 GMT
Aw you too Cat 😟? Ok fine I’ll go find Shepard maybe he can help me. What? No? Shep say it ain’t so! Seriously, why evil guys? H- e - r- o! Gervaise - didn’t need to change vote to Fylimar as she already had the votes to be eliminated Romice- why do you trust Space so much? Well I guess I’ll put my vote in - a lot a good it’ll do. This Is just like my last employer wouldn’t let me take out the bad guy. Space. 😊An odd choice for a vote, but ok. Sorry if you really are a hero. Thing is, only you, Pela and Dragon can be the spy. The others have been cleared. Or they are very good actors Pela could be lying about Legion to avoid being voted off as well, who knows. But if she is Legion, she can change the votes. That in itself would tell us something, I suppose, and would use up her ability.
Hopefully we can get an answer overnight, if it turns out you are innocent.
I think this vote and overnight should tell us a lot.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 5, 2018 22:07:01 GMT
Aw you too Cat 😟? Ok fine I’ll go find Shepard maybe he can help me. What? No? Shep say it ain’t so! Seriously, why evil guys? H- e - r- o! Gervaise - didn’t need to change vote to Fylimar as she already had the votes to be eliminated Romice- why do you trust Space so much? Well I guess I’ll put my vote in - a lot a good it’ll do. This Is just like my last employer wouldn’t let me take out the bad guy. Space. 😊I'll avenge you if you're a hero. I know, it does not really comfort you, but at least you'll rest in peace... |
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 5, 2018 23:07:07 GMT
Not really odd. You are the first to vote for me and then everyone followed. You say Pela, Dragon can be the spy why not you, Pela, Romice and Catilina? Why believe them over me since all of us claim we are heroes. Yeah after the vote the heroes will know they were duped again by the spies  Well, this is the way I see it. Gervaise has proven to be the investigate role. She cleared Cati. So Cati is innocent.
Romice has claimed to be Miranda and no-one contradicted her. Miranda saved a krogan, although which krogan we don't know. My role is a krogan character. It might have been me, which would indicate I'm a hero since she can't protect the opposite side. Someone else might be the other krogan role and just hasn't admitted it yet though, so I'm not totally in the clear from anyone else's POV but my own.
But since I know I'm a hero, to me that leaves Pela, Dragon and yourself.
So why you and not one of the other two? There isnt a good reason beyond what I laid out as far as risk if your apparent role is evil. So I'm sorry about that, and will avenge you as well, if you prove to be a hero. Hopefully Gerviara can find the last evil if you are not it.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Oct 5, 2018 23:42:16 GMT
If Pela, is really legion... then would it not be smart to all vote for her and see if she actually IS legion? To save herself, she'd have to use her ability and thus reveal she's a hero. If she doesn't, then she'll be eliminated and most likely be the spy.
Also, Dusty seems to clearly be indicating that she's garrus.
And neither Garrus nor Legion are guaranteed hero roles, so either could be a spy. The investigation role also has no info on either it seems so why the dogpile I wonder?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 5, 2018 23:48:03 GMT
If Pela, is really legion... then would it not be smart to all vote for her and see if she actually IS legion? To save herself, she'd have to use her ability and thus reveal she's a hero. If she doesn't, then she'll be eliminated and most likely be the spy. Also, Dusty seems to clearly be indicating that she's garrus. And neither Garrus nor Legion are guaranteed hero roles, so either could be a spy. The investigation role also has no info on either it seems so why the dogpile I wonder? Allers could also be the spy role. Sadly we have no way of telling.
I do like your idea of forcing Pela to use her ability or call her bluff though. What does everyone else think? I'm willing to go with the flow.
Plus Dusty is making me feel really guilty If she is innocent, you can be sure the spy jumped on the dogpile after me. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Oct 5, 2018 23:50:32 GMT
I bring it up, because as the spy myself when I claimed EDI... I heavily considered Legion. However, I thought that bluff could easily be called by voting me out which is a no win situation for the spy. They can't actually switch the votes AND they're eliminated.  ETA: Also, should she switch the vote... you then know that she's a trusted hero along with Cati, Romice, and Gervaise. Leaving only Dusty, Dragon, and Space as potential spy. |
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Oct 5, 2018 23:51:47 GMT
Votes
Catilina - 1
Dustyelf - 4
Space Cowboy - 1
Crew
01] Space Cowboy - voted
02] Dustyelf - voted
03] Pelassarias - voted
04] Dragontartare - voted
05] Sgtreed24 - Tali'Zorah vas Normandy
06] Romice - vote change over once
07] Gervaise21 - vote change over once
08] Fylimar - Agent Kaidan
09] Catilina - voted
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Post by Space Cowboy on Oct 5, 2018 23:55:05 GMT
So why do you believe Romice and not me? It doesn't make any sense one over the other. I've even hinted and I'm a hero. No one contradicted me except to say evil. Why evil? No one is explaining that part. Sorry Space still voting for you and I'm not sure if we will meet at the bar.
Aw Good Luck though I hope y'all sacrificing me, a HERO helps you win in the end You can vote for me, I dont mind.
Aw   It's not that I'm sure you are evil. We just have to vote for somebody. Everyone else followed me, but if they had elected to jump on someone else, I would have followed that one, because out of my 3 suspects I have no idea which one is actually guilty either.
As for Romice, it's not an either or. You may well both be innocent. But I'm certain she is based on the fact that she claims a role that is proven to be good according to the narrative of the first night.
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, hopefully our actions so far has proven our innocence just a little bit. 
It's not that I'm sure you are evil. We just have to vote for somebody. Everyone else followed me, but if they had elected to jump on someone else, I would have followed that one, because out of my 3 suspects I have no idea which one is actually guilty either.