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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jan 22, 2018 0:02:03 GMT
About Liara: yeah, that was totally over the top. I just was nice to the girl, because she just found out, her mother is basically helping a mad serial killer destroying the galaxis, but well, the next time, I'll be super unfriendly to her to avoid getting ninjamanced. And finally about Miranda: I just parked her in her bureau, she can stay there the whole game, I don't think, I will take her out again. She can do nothing, another crew member can't do either and after my second conversation ('I'm soooo special'), I decided, she is not worth it. She has become my Morrigan of ME . Since my Shep is anti Cerberus, I guess, that is pretty much in character. I don't trust my assistant, that girl, who is too sweet to be believable either (Kelly or something like that. The one, that tells you, when you have a new letter). She sounds brainwashed. There is no next time with Liara. She is not a companion for ME2 and the gate to romance her in ME3 is no longer that hidden, the choice is blatant. Obviously the devs have been listening. For me, I knew what I was doing when I played ME1, it was between her and Kaidan. I did Kaidan for first PT and Liara for the rest of the PTs thereafter. The one that actually jumped on me out of the blue was Sha'ira, the Consort. (No, that's not what I meant! *sigh* reload and redid the conversation) You'll have a chance to know Miranda better if you do her loyalty and it's better to get her loyalty; ME3. Kelly tends to be too wholesome. I also found her enthusiasm hard to take; are you on drugs or something? But after listening to the conversations among the crew, I get the general idea that TIM picked those personnel for a specific reason for Shep.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 2:31:01 GMT
Cross my heart and hope to die, Miranda totally wasn't trying to save me from Garrus n2. She's an upstanding citizen.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 22, 2018 2:50:50 GMT
I just started a sentinel in ME1. Got the mako through that small gap. Sure made the giant toaster easy
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 2:52:16 GMT
I'm joking around in this thread with a known villain who is trying (unsuccessfully, thankfully) to turn the other heros against me Yup! Just as we predicted! Everything's going perfectly well according to our plan! PARISH THE THOUGHT YOU NON BELIEVERS THAT DRAGON COULD POSSIBLY BE GUILTY!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 2:53:04 GMT
I just started a sentinel in ME1. Got the mako through that small gap. Sure made the giant toaster easy Are you trying to make me jealous? Beating that toaster took longer than the entire game put together.
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 22, 2018 2:56:00 GMT
EvilWrex, it's rather odd that you are quoting something fylimar supposedly said somewhere back in November. And that when I try to quote your post, nothing shows up. I'm not listening to anything you say. You don't even deserve an upvote
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 2:59:05 GMT
EvilWrex, it's rather odd that you are quoting something fylimar supposedly said somewhere back in November. And that when I try to quote your post, nothing shows up. I'm not listening to anything you say. You don't even deserve an upvote Everyone should think that we're fighting. Excellent! Not giving you an upvote too!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 3:02:40 GMT
EvilWrex, it's rather odd that you are quoting something fylimar supposedly said somewhere back in November. And that when I try to quote your post, nothing shows up. On a more serious note, how do you quote only a small fraction of someone's post? There are really long ones and I only want a couple of sentences out of them. I just end up clicking the quote button and erasing. But if that person had quoted other players, for some reason stupid text appears as part of another person's quote when it's really mine or does glitches like it won't let me print text below a quote. It's extremely annoying. edit: Maybe nothing showing up because annoyingly gerva's and fyli's quotes were inside your quote and they keep popping up inside my post though I keep trying to erase them.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 22, 2018 3:03:13 GMT
I just started a sentinel in ME1. Got the mako through that small gap. Sure made the giant toaster easy Are you trying to make me jealous? Beating that toaster took longer than the entire game put together. Well, I've played the game a time or 20
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 22, 2018 3:04:06 GMT
fylimar This is from my vote list on p.55. I'm not seeing any vote switching from you, but it's possible that I missed it while going through 13 pages of posts. When did you switch votes? Day 1: voted Tittus Day 2: voted adonniel You are right, I haven't switched, only avoided Uh...so, I'll try to look back and see if you were suspicious of someone but ended up voting for someone else instead, due to another vote that came before you, I guess? Do other heroes have thoughts? I don't trust my assistant, that girl, who is too sweet to be believable either (Kelly or something like that Before I go to bed, Kelly is too nice to be with Cerberus but if you like fish you should be pleasant to her because she can help you prevent their premature death. (That is if you can be bothered with fish) Yeah, Kelly is too nice. Her behavior is... a little fishy. AAAHAHAHAHA! I finally got her to have dinner with Shepard, which I missed with femshep presumably because she was gunning after Garrus ...and it was underwhelming. I thought I'd get to actually see the scene, but it was all off-camera Let it be known that adonniel changed her post above from having a supposed fylimar quote to now having a supposed gervaise quote. I'm not quite sure what she's trying to do, but at least it's amusing?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 22, 2018 3:05:35 GMT
EvilWrex, it's rather odd that you are quoting something fylimar supposedly said somewhere back in November. And that when I try to quote your post, nothing shows up. On a more serious note, how do you quote only a small fraction of someone's post? There are really long ones and I only want a couple of sentences out of them. I just end up clicking the quote button and erasing. But if that person had quoted other players, for some reason stupid text appears as part of another person's quote when it's really mine or does glitches like it won't let me print text below a quote. It's extremely annoying. I just erase also, but for the printing below a quote problem, go to the bbcode tab and do it there, after the [/quote] tag
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 22, 2018 3:06:00 GMT
On a more serious note, how do you quote only a small fraction of someone's post? Wouldn't you like to know? Just highlight the portion you want to quote, and a little "quote" button will pop up, which copies just that snippet of quote into the reply box. You can go through an entire thread building up little quotes that way, and then respond to them all at once It's worth noting that this doesn't work on mobile, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 3:09:07 GMT
Wouldn't you like to know? Yes? I would! I would! an entire thread building up little quotes that way Thread or a page? Doesn't the box vanish when moving from page to page?
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 22, 2018 3:09:43 GMT
Thread or a page? Doesn't the box vanish when moving from page to page? Thread It carries from page to page.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 22, 2018 3:10:28 GMT
On a more serious note, how do you quote only a small fraction of someone's post? Wouldn't you like to know? Just highlight the portion you want to quote, and a little "quote" button will pop up, which copies just that snippet of quote into the reply box. You can go through an entire thread building up little quotes that way, and then respond to them all at once It's worth noting that this doesn't work on mobile, though. Wow, nice! That explains your giant quote posts
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 3:12:27 GMT
Wow, nice! That explains your giant quote posts And 100% innocence! How can anyone as helpful as this possibly be evil?
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Post by pelassarias on Jan 22, 2018 5:15:53 GMT
When it comes to Garrus, I don't believe he's Evil this round. If they were, they would have shot an innocent last night to force the Heroes to vote for adonniel. I just don't think they would pass that opportunity up just to appear less suspicious. I dunno... the only known spy this round is behaving quite differently that spies in the past. Like I said to gervaise above, I'm worried that the spies are taking a "me first" approach rather than a team approach, which could ensure that at least one survives to the end of the game. If they aren't taking a team approach, then we can't assume they aren't voting for each other or shooting each other. Meanwhile, the other two players I'm suspicious of are really clever players and a bit hard to crack. It's possible that they could both be innocent, but something is telling me that that's not the case. I'm going to have to go over their posts/behavior to confirm whether I truly believe they are innocent or guilty. I already know they will make it tough for me. As an eliminated player, you are still allowed to discuss your suspicions. Who are you concerned about? I thought about this over some more. I suppose it is possible that romice could have done this to appear less suspicious, especially after I declared that she was my second most suspicious player last round. I took a risk when I was spy, she could be taking a risk here. Although if I were Evil Garrus, I would take the risk of getting caught and shoot an innocent and keep adonniel in the game to possibly secure another kill. I would also pin the role on OG since some players thought OG was Garrus anyway. I suppose right now I'm stuck with flyimar and romice due to their voting patterns. But if I were to vote for anyone, I would probably vote for flyimar. I think it's possible she could be Evil Tali. But honestly, if I were still alive, I would probably think this over some more. ETA: Actually the more I think about it, the more I find it odd that romice was suspicious of me if she was actually Good Garrus. I pointed out that adonniel could be Evil Wrex. Why cast suspicions my way if you thought this theory was probably true? Why not wait until after you found out if adonniel was Good or Evil? I just don't completely understand her reasoning for voting me last round.
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Post by romice on Jan 22, 2018 6:31:28 GMT
I admit, my voting last round was a bit... erratic. Let me explain. I started with voting for fylimar because I wanted to get a reaction. It worked as we pretty much learned what role she is. After that I decided to switch again, to you, because it was tittus' suggestion the previous round that you may be a spy with adonniel. Then the Diana/Moonae situation happened and I knew I wouldn't get any info from keeping my vote on you, so I changed it to Monae. The most important thing is why would I kill you the night after I established myself as your 'enemy'? After they killed you I immediately thought I'd be the prime suspect, hence my Spirits comment, pretty much claiming Garrus' role.
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Post by fylimar on Jan 22, 2018 6:35:29 GMT
I dunno... the only known spy this round is behaving quite differently that spies in the past. Like I said to gervaise above, I'm worried that the spies are taking a "me first" approach rather than a team approach, which could ensure that at least one survives to the end of the game. If they aren't taking a team approach, then we can't assume they aren't voting for each other or shooting each other. As an eliminated player, you are still allowed to discuss your suspicions. Who are you concerned about? I thought about this over some more. I suppose it is possible that romice could have done this to appear less suspicious, especially after I declared that she was my second most suspicious player last round. I took a risk when I was spy, she could be taking a risk here. Although if I were Evil Garrus, I would take the risk of getting caught and shoot an innocent and keep adonniel in the game to possibly secure another kill. I would also pin the role on OG since some players thought OG was Garrus anyway. I suppose right now I'm stuck with flyimar and romice due to their voting patterns. But if I were to vote for anyone, I would probably vote for flyimar. I think it's possible she could be Evil Tali. But honestly, if I were still alive, I would probably think this over some more. ETA: Actually the more I think about it, the more I find it odd that romice was suspicious of me if she was actually Good Garrus. I pointed out that adonniel could be Evil Wrex. Why cast suspicions my way if you thought this theory was probably true? Why not wait until after you found out if adonniel was Good or Evil? I just don't completely understand her reasoning for voting me last round. What exactly do you find suspicious about my voting pattern? That I voted Tittus? Honest mistake, that you made too. That I voted adonniel? I at least did try to get rid of an actual spy. Since the night before the voting Garrus hadn't shot, I wasn't sure, he was on our side, as I've already explained, so I thought, we had to get rid of adonniel the hard way. I was lucky, I didn't have to switch votes.
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 22, 2018 14:33:50 GMT
I admit, my voting last round was a bit... erratic. Let me explain. I started with voting for fylimar because I wanted to get a reaction. It worked as we pretty much learned what role she is. After that I decided to switch again, to you, because it was tittus' suggestion the previous round that you may be a spy with adonniel. Then the Diana/Moonae situation happened and I knew I wouldn't get any info from keeping my vote on you, so I changed it to Monae. The most important thing is why would I kill you the night after I established myself as your 'enemy'? After they killed you I immediately thought I'd be the prime suspect, hence my Spirits comment, pretty much claiming Garrus' role. Just one question for now because I'm at work. Why did you trust Tittus' suspicion of pela when he gave no reason for the suspicion and we knew adonniel was the only one he investigated?
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Post by romice on Jan 22, 2018 15:37:40 GMT
I admit, my voting last round was a bit... erratic. Let me explain. I started with voting for fylimar because I wanted to get a reaction. It worked as we pretty much learned what role she is. After that I decided to switch again, to you, because it was tittus' suggestion the previous round that you may be a spy with adonniel. Then the Diana/Moonae situation happened and I knew I wouldn't get any info from keeping my vote on you, so I changed it to Monae. The most important thing is why would I kill you the night after I established myself as your 'enemy'? After they killed you I immediately thought I'd be the prime suspect, hence my Spirits comment, pretty much claiming Garrus' role. Just one question for now because I'm at work. Why did you trust Tittus' suspicion of pela when he gave no reason for the suspicion and we knew adonniel was the only one he investigated? Probably a lot of bad judgement combined with pre-exam stress? Guys, we seriously need to figure it out. We can't let this be the first game we lose, right?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 22, 2018 17:04:15 GMT
Adonniel how's ME2 doing?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 18:00:44 GMT
My ME2 is going with me considering to create another Inq game, though, all my plans to romance Blackwall and Dorian keep getting foiled by me wanting to romance Cullen all the time. Thus I'm running in circles as to who should be picked next. Actually, I've initiated the game and finally got to learn who Miranda is through comm, but haven't gotten far. So far the game controls feel extremely clutzy/don't like combat and the visual isn't what I prefer. I am finding the story mysterious so far, which is a very good thing. I enjoy it when the story is not 100% predictable. Finding answers and finding the lost Normandy crew are a good motivators to continue with the story. ______________ By the way, can I choose who to vote off if nobody comes to a decision? I'm totally trustworthy!
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 22, 2018 18:27:07 GMT
I just thought I would point out that the reason I am placing my trust in Dragon is because as former GM I assume she understands the rules better than I do so if any of the following is incorrect, it is just me misunderstanding the way things work this game.
Back after night 2 Dragon said: "Nice going Miranda. I'm assuming. Unless this was an evil Miranda putting on a show for us with the help of the other agents, then it seems Miranda was on our side."
So I assume this means that just because no one was indoctrinated, does not necessarily mean Miranda is good. In view of what Dragon suspects about Adonniel and team playing mind games with us, this seems even more up in the air. Also Space was asking something about Miranda's ability. It says she can block Garrus as well. So an evil Miranda could have been attempting to block Garrus who then didn't take his shot, or have I misunderstood this?
I've already brought up how apparently an evil Garrus can shoot his own team if they think it is in their interests to do so. Dragon has confirmed this is a possibility.
Anybody else could also be evil or good and we won't know until they are out of the game. EDI is a particularly difficult role to pin down since if she is good and indoctrinated in the night then she works for Cerberus and if she is evil she simply starts out as an agent. Since we have never experienced an indoctrinated EDI, I assume that the night-time narrative would simply say that no one was eliminated. If the narrative showed EDI being targeted then everyone would know she had been turned whereas with the former we could just assume but wouldn't know for certain. Am I correct?
I'm still puzzling through some behaviour and claims trying to get things clear in my mind so there may be more thinking aloud to come. Need to get something to eat though. Back later.
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Post by pelassarias on Jan 22, 2018 19:04:31 GMT
I thought about this over some more. I suppose it is possible that romice could have done this to appear less suspicious, especially after I declared that she was my second most suspicious player last round. I took a risk when I was spy, she could be taking a risk here. Although if I were Evil Garrus, I would take the risk of getting caught and shoot an innocent and keep adonniel in the game to possibly secure another kill. I would also pin the role on OG since some players thought OG was Garrus anyway. I suppose right now I'm stuck with flyimar and romice due to their voting patterns. But if I were to vote for anyone, I would probably vote for flyimar. I think it's possible she could be Evil Tali. But honestly, if I were still alive, I would probably think this over some more. ETA: Actually the more I think about it, the more I find it odd that romice was suspicious of me if she was actually Good Garrus. I pointed out that adonniel could be Evil Wrex. Why cast suspicions my way if you thought this theory was probably true? Why not wait until after you found out if adonniel was Good or Evil? I just don't completely understand her reasoning for voting me last round. What exactly do you find suspicious about my voting pattern? That I voted Tittus? Honest mistake, that you made too. That I voted adonniel? I at least did try to get rid of an actual spy. Since the night before the voting Garrus hadn't shot, I wasn't sure, he was on our side, as I've already explained, so I thought, we had to get rid of adonniel the hard way. I was lucky, I didn't have to switch votes. The players who voted for Tittus could have made a mistake like me, or they could have been a spy. My main issue I have with you voting for adonniel is that you hinted at a role that wasn't that powerful while saying you were willing to take one for the team. The thing is adonniel wouldn't have taken you down after you said this. She would have more than likely taken another player down. It's possible you just made an honest mistake. It's also possible you could've have been a spy and you saying you were willing to sacrifice yourself was a way to make yourself appear less suspicious. I admit, my voting last round was a bit... erratic. Let me explain. I started with voting for fylimar because I wanted to get a reaction. It worked as we pretty much learned what role she is. After that I decided to switch again, to you, because it was tittus' suggestion the previous round that you may be a spy with adonniel. Then the Diana/Moonae situation happened and I knew I wouldn't get any info from keeping my vote on you, so I changed it to Monae. The most important thing is why would I kill you the night after I established myself as your 'enemy'? After they killed you I immediately thought I'd be the prime suspect, hence my Spirits comment, pretty much claiming Garrus' role. I understand being suspicious of me right after what happened with Tittus. What I don't completely get is why would these suspicions remain after I figured out what happened, especially if you were Good Garrus. I also don't understand why you would quickly follow Tittus without questioning why he was suspicious of me in the first place. As for why the spies would kill me, again, I could have been seen as a threat. If you were one of the spies, you might have been against it, or you were willing to take your chances since you can easily claim that you're Good Garrus. Regardless, I'm not 100 % suspicious of you or flyimar. But then again, I'm not certain of anyone else either. My main issue just comes back to what happened last round. But it is possible that your suspicions could be genuine and you were under the pre-exam blues. It's also possible that flyimar is good Tali willing to vote adonniel off despite the risk. Also gervaise makes a good point about Miranda. It's possible she could have been trying to save Evil Wrex the night I brought it up, if she can save roles from Garrus. If Miranda can save people from Garrus, I'll add her as my third suspect.
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