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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 8:37:10 GMT
I did drop hints but it's very oblique Okay, so I've checked this out and if I am reading the clues correctly I did wonder if you were this character. However, in that case, there is someone else who has also been hinting at being that role but it is not Luketrevelyan so why aren't you voting for that person?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Nov 30, 2017 9:10:46 GMT
I did drop hints but it's very oblique Okay, so I've checked this out and if I am reading the clues correctly I did wonder if you were this character. However, in that case, there is someone else who has also been hinting at being that role but it is not Luketrevelyan so why aren't you voting for that person? Off game : I must have missed it then. It becomes a problem for me because the posts are, to me, messy. If the hint is thrown inside a reply that has nothing to do with the game, I will miss it. That is why I try to keep mine short and simple; easier to track (hopefully). It would be nice to have everyone's posts neatly categorised and lined up but that's impossible. I can't use the recent activity feature since it'll just list every other posts they made in other threads.
In game : I think I know who you are, gervaise21 . P.S. If only a tactical plot could reveal personal deets but they don't. I take back my vote. I will see how it plays out.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 11:54:48 GMT
Okay, just so everyone knows I am considering changing my vote from OG but still mulling things over, so please do not automatically assume anything at present. Suggest innocent parties check back through the posts by OG and see what role you come up with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 13:43:23 GMT
I did drop hints but it's very oblique Okay, so I've checked this out and if I am reading the clues correctly I did wonder if you were this character. However, in that case, there is someone else who has also been hinting at being that role but it is not Luketrevelyan so why aren't you voting for that person? Considering that someone could be highjacking my character without even me knowing since I don't get present hints even when I'm being hit over the head with a shovel, I'd like to know what's going on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 13:47:33 GMT
Okay, so I've checked this out and if I am reading the clues correctly I did wonder if you were this character. However, in that case, there is someone else who has also been hinting at being that role but it is not Luketrevelyan so why aren't you voting for that person? Off game : I must have missed it then. It becomes a problem for me because the posts are, to me, messy. If the hint is thrown inside a reply that has nothing to do with the game, I will miss it. That is why I try to keep mine short and simple; easier to track (hopefully). It would be nice to have everyone's posts neatly categorised and lined up but that's impossible. I can't use the recent activity feature since it'll just list every other posts they made in other threads.
In game : I think I know who you are, gervaise21 . P.S. If only a tactical plot could reveal personal deets but they don't. I take back my vote. I will see how it plays out. Do share, which devious person is stealing your identity?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Nov 30, 2017 15:09:47 GMT
Do share, which devious person is stealing your identity? Have you seen the gangs on Omega?
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 17:11:24 GMT
Right, let's clarify which crew members I think are/were present:
Liara ) Miranda) These 3 are automatically present and I think I know who they are. Garrus )
Kaidan ) Wrex ) Eliminated but genuine EDI )
Legion: Think I know who is claiming this role Diana Allers: Not sure about this one but Adonniel suggested who it might be.
Tali - Not present - false Tali Space Cowboy Javik - No evidence to suggest he is present or anybody has claimed him, false or not.
So my problem is that there are 3 people for only 2 genuine roles. I hate to have to say this but I don't know who you are Adonniel. You have been able to ask a lot of questions through being new to the game world and also make some erroneous assumptions, which may be quite genuine confusion but could also be an effective cover for a spy. Who are you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 18:35:30 GMT
So my problem is that there are 3 people for only 2 genuine roles. I hate to have to say this but I don't know who you are Adonniel. You have been able to ask a lot of questions through being new to the game world and also make some erroneous assumptions, which may be quite genuine confusion but could also be an effective cover for a spy. Who are you? *looks down her nose (or lack of) at heedless suspicions* My highly advanced, antediluvian sense of superiority shall not demean itself with responding to these ridiculous suppositions conjured by embryonic delusions.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 18:55:34 GMT
Got it, thank you.
Need to revise my list.
So I guess that just leaves either Diana Allers or Legion as not present. Since there has been no evidence of anyone pushing for a particular person this round I think that rules out Diana Allers. So which person is the genuine Legion?
Mind you, if we guess wrong then genuine Legion can just take out false Legion anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:02:01 GMT
So my problem is that there are 3 people for only 2 genuine roles. I hate to have to say this but I don't know who you are Adonniel. You have been able to ask a lot of questions through being new to the game world and also make some erroneous assumptions, which may be quite genuine confusion but could also be an effective cover for a spy. Who are you? What makes you the judge and expert on who makes what type of assumptions since you do not have a role list in front of you either? So far, my errors co-respond with not being able to pick up on the hints the players are dropping due to the fact that I've never played ME and I am unable to discern which role which player is claiming because aside from my character I have no idea how these characters should behave. This is why I am asking for clarification on something obvious to everyone else - because I want to figure things out. At the start of the previous voting round I agreed with Luke that Serza was acting a bit odd and voted her, and she was due to a role that has an aggressive stance. After listening to you and Serza argue, I have discerned that most likely Serza is telling the truth and you most likely are telling the truth as well (unless you wish to inform me I'm wrong about this one). And I changed my vote to romice, who ended up an evil role. Do point out an erroneous logic in this so far. I've never claimed a specific role - however - if you take a look at the previous list of roles I perceive in play, I have moved myself into the position of a floating role. Plus, I have been out loud speculating during the previous two voting rounds as to who might be Diana, Legion or Tali - but I've never speculated about who might be this specific role that I am - left on the list by the process of elimination. As for Luke - once again - I admit that I may have missed his claim because I am not familiar with ME and I did ask openly who he is because I'm trying to determine which claim is Garrus, which would narrow down my suspects to pretty much only two people since I have a claim on one of the floating roles and this leaves only 1 floating role and two people contending for it. There are 3 people unknowns to me - 1 is Garrus, another a spy and third is either Diana or Legion. The chart looks like this to me: 1.spy - Space out 2.spy 3.Garrus 4.Liara - Fleet? 5.Miranda - Gerva? 6.Kaidan - smiles out 7.my role 8. Wrex - Serza out 9. EDI - romice out 10. only one floating space left ??? - Legion or Diana Unknowns: Obsidian, Luke, Pela. No Tali in this game since Space lied about it. Since Legion is likely to be in pair with Tali, there might be no Legion either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:02:47 GMT
Do share, which devious person is stealing your identity? Have you seen the gangs on Omega? Nope. Sorry.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 19:06:35 GMT
Since Legion is likely to be in pair with Tali, there might be no Legion either. There is no requirement for Legion to be paired with Tali. All that is required is that if both are present Tali has to vote opposite to Legion for two rounds. So just because there was no Tali does not necessarily mean there is no Legion. See my above post for why I think Legion is present.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 30, 2017 19:08:00 GMT
So my problem is that there are 3 people for only 2 genuine roles. I hate to have to say this but I don't know who you are Adonniel. You have been able to ask a lot of questions through being new to the game world and also make some erroneous assumptions, which may be quite genuine confusion but could also be an effective cover for a spy. Who are you? *looks down her nose (or lack of) at heedless suspicions* My highly advanced, antediluvian sense of superiority shall not demean itself with responding to these ridiculous suppositions conjured by embryonic delusions. I had an Auntie DeluVian. Charming lady. Made great cookies.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 19:09:02 GMT
The erroneous assumptions is based on how you interpreted the events of last night. Let's just say I know what happened but to be fair to you, I guess the spy is really puzzled too.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 19:10:55 GMT
Have you seen the gangs on Omega? Adonniel, FYI, Garrus hung out for a time on Omega where he was known as Archangel and was fighting against the gangs there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:14:17 GMT
Have you seen the gangs on Omega? Adonniel, FYI, Garrus hung out for a time on Omega where he was known as Archangel and was fighting against the gangs there. 1.spy - Space out 2.spy 3.Garrus - Obsidian? 4.Liara - Fleet? 5.Miranda - Gerva? 6.Kaidan - smiles out 7.my role 8. Wrex - Serza out 9. EDI - romice out 10. only one floating space left ??? - Legion or Diana Either Luke or Pela = evil. Everyone else is taken, unless the spy had the guts to lay claim falsely to one of the fixed roles. One of them is Legion/Diana the other is a spy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:20:53 GMT
The erroneous assumptions is based on how you interpreted the events of last night. Let's just say I know what happened but to be fair to you, I guess the spy is really puzzled too. My erroneous assumption would then be not taking into consideration that you have activated your skill since you thought the spies will go after you or Fleet and wanted to save either? But then Garrus shot him again and you can't bring back the corpse twice?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:24:14 GMT
Since Legion is likely to be in pair with Tali, there might be no Legion either. There is no requirement for Legion to be paired with Tali. All that is required is that if both are present Tali has to vote opposite to Legion for two rounds. So just because there was no Tali does not necessarily mean there is no Legion. See my above post for why I think Legion is present. Either way, there is no room for both Legion and Diana in the game. One of them is a spy.
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Post by pelassarias on Nov 30, 2017 19:37:18 GMT
It's great that adonniel has hinted at a role, but I would like to point out that it's also not confirmed so it's still possible that this player could be an agent.
Also since OG has hinted at a confirmed role that no one has counter-hinted, I'm plannning on retracting my vote to either luke or adonniel. Haven't decided yet.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 19:38:20 GMT
Either way, there is no room for both Legion and Diana in the game To be honest I don't think anyone is claiming the role of Diana or acting like they are Diana, so I think there are two Legions, one real and one not.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 19:40:55 GMT
Also since OG has hinted at a confirmed role that no one has counter-hinted, I'm plannning on retracting my vote to either luke or adonniel. Haven't decided yet. I'll wait on your decision then.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:44:26 GMT
It's great that adonniel has hinted at a role, but I would like to point out that it's also not confirmed so it's still possible that this player could be an agent. Also since OG has hinted at a confirmed role that no one has counter-hinted, I'm plannning on retracting my vote to either luke or adonniel. Haven't decided yet. My role is easy to prove since it can be activated any night.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:45:51 GMT
Also since OG has hinted at a confirmed role that no one has counter-hinted, I'm plannning on retracting my vote to either luke or adonniel. Haven't decided yet. I'll wait on your decision then. If according to your logic there are two Legion claims, then why are you not deciding between them and considering going after an unchallenged claim? More so, leaving it to one of the two main suspects to decide for you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 19:55:51 GMT
Unless the spy lied and claimed one of the fixed roles - and none called him out on it. Then, the situation is easy enough to resolve.
Vote off Luke or Pela - due to the double Legion claim. If we're right, we win. If we're wrong I activate my ability and we vote off the remaining one the following day.
If nobody wakes up with a hangover tomorrow - then obviously I'm a lying spy that has no ability to activate and you vote me off.
Either way, heroes win at max by tomorrow.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 30, 2017 20:07:37 GMT
If according to your logic there are two Legion claims, then why are you not deciding between them and considering going after an unchallenged claim? More so, leaving it to one of the two main suspects to decide for you. Why are you being so aggressive? I have my reasons for acting the way I am. Let's just leave it at that shall we? At present the only person who has cause to be shirty with me is OG seeing as he currently has the most votes. My erroneous assumption would then be not taking into consideration that you have activated your skill since you thought the spies will go after you or Fleet and wanted to save either? But then Garrus shot him again and you can't bring back the corpse twice? If you read the narrative it is quite clear that the target of indoctrination was not EDI. That little drama was unfolding totally separate from what Garrus was doing. So Agent attempted indoctrination, the target felt the attempt and successfully resisted it, either with or without help of another (seeing as Witch could apply to either of the two people that the Agent was likely to want to indoctrinate). Then Garrus shot at the suspicious character on the ledge but misfired and hit EDI by mistake. Even without knowing in advance that a certain person had activated their skill, it is clear that is what happened. Don't know what you mean about bringing back corpses twice?
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