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Post by Iakus on Nov 21, 2017 5:08:37 GMT
Thought I'd make a thread about this, given the Enhanced Edition has been announced
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Post by linksocarina on Nov 21, 2017 20:36:29 GMT
I honestly don't see a point to an enhanced edition of Neverwinter nights.
The diamond collection runs on my laptop fine.getting baldurs gate to work was a chore. The EE of that helped it immensely.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 21, 2017 22:38:42 GMT
I honestly don't see a point to an enhanced edition of Neverwinter nights. The diamond collection runs on my laptop The Diamond edition works badly on certain machine. It crashes a lots on my PC for example. The release notes talks about fixing crashes and ATI/AMD issues for examples (also lots of other bugs). Version 1.69 of the game was never released in other supported languages than English and the Linux/Mac version do not exist anymore (Beamdog is finishing the translations and bringing back Linux/Mac support) The multiplayer server doesn't work since Gamespy shut it down (Beamdog removed all that code and replaced it with a new master server system). It is currently impossible to improve the graphics pass a certain point because of how fixed the engine is (Beamdog is opening that up). The UI was changed so it upscale Improved server performances etc All that to eventually make new content and make it easier for modders/persistant world.
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 22, 2017 1:40:24 GMT
Never played it as I had PC issues with it back in the day.
Notice it will be on MacOS (I no longer have a PC) so I'll be able to play it for the first time.
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Post by linksocarina on Nov 22, 2017 14:44:31 GMT
I honestly don't see a point to an enhanced edition of Neverwinter nights. The diamond collection runs on my laptop The Diamond edition works badly on certain machine. It crashes a lots on my PC for example. The release notes talks about fixing crashes and ATI/AMD issues for examples (also lots of other bugs). Version 1.69 of the game was never released in other supported languages than English and the Linux/Mac version do not exist anymore (Beamdog is finishing the translations and bringing back Linux/Mac support) The multiplayer server doesn't work since Gamespy shut it down (Beamdog removed all that code and replaced it with a new master server system). It is currently impossible to improve the graphics pass a certain point because of how fixed the engine is (Beamdog is opening that up). The UI was changed so it upscale Improved server performances etc All that to eventually make new content and make it easier for modders/persistant world. Fair to that then, but it's not a product for me ultimately.at least, not now.
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Post by Elfen Lied on Nov 22, 2017 15:43:21 GMT
Still waiting for Beamdog to release a game of their own.
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Post by NRieh on Nov 22, 2017 17:36:43 GMT
Yeah. Sure. Slap some saturation\sharpen filters all over the screen, scale up the low-res fonts and call it 'the enchantment enhancement'. 8\
The only thing NwN really needs is a decent scalable UI (but that's where the mods step in).
Maybe I'm saying this because I'm one of those lucky people who had no issues while running NwN Diamond on their modern PCs (win 8+ GoG version + bigger fonts = awesome 1080 experience).
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Nov 24, 2017 19:44:46 GMT
I'd rather see Neverwinter Nights 3 tbh. Yeah, me too! I was really excited for Sword Coast Legends, thinking it was gonna be that. How wrong was i...
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Post by Draining Dragon on Nov 24, 2017 23:44:28 GMT
As I said last year:
Addendum: Even if you're not interested in playing Neverwinter Nights, the soundtrack is gorgeous.
I'm hyped for the Enhanced Edition.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 25, 2017 0:10:59 GMT
As I said last year: Addendum: Even if you're not interested in playing Neverwinter Nights, the soundtrack is gorgeous. I'm hyped for the Enhanced Edition. Shadows of Urentide and Hordes of the Underdark for maximum Deekinage.
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Dec 4, 2017 21:09:34 GMT
This is the first EE from Beamdog I actually want.
I bought BG:EE, even though I thought it made the game worse (it was clearly aimed at people who prefer BG2, and I am not on of them), but I would still be playing NWN if I could get it to run (I get a CTD of I try to adjust the resolution from the default).
I just hope they fix some of the problems added to NWN by later patches. I've already mentioned Friendly Fire on the Beamdog forums as something that needs attention.
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Post by Obadiah on Dec 4, 2017 22:48:06 GMT
I just hope the grahpics get improved to at least KOTOR level.
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Dec 5, 2017 0:57:45 GMT
I just hope the grahpics get improved to at least KOTOR level. Beamdog has no plans to alter the graphics in the core game (though they may in subsequent expansions) in order to maintain compatibility with the original game's modules (and because it would be too expensive). I applaud them for this. For years I have pointed to NWN as the last BioWare game that actually improved based on changes to its graphics. All the graphical advancements since, in my opinion, have been a waste if resources. NWN was also the last BioWare game with a decent UI.
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Post by Obadiah on Dec 5, 2017 1:05:41 GMT
I just hope the grahpics get improved to at least KOTOR level. Beamdog has no plans to alter the graphics in the core game (though they may in subsequent expansions) in order to maintain compatibility with the original game's modules (and because it would be too expensive). I applaud them for this. For years I have pointed to NWN as the last BioWare game that actually improved based on changes to its graphics. All the graphical advancements since, in my opinion, have been a waste if resources. NWN was also the last BioWare game with a decent UI. The graphics in NWN OC sucked in comparison to other games released at the same time (like Dungeon Siege). Hell, players had to create even decent foliage as a mod!
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Dec 5, 2017 5:03:45 GMT
Beamdog has no plans to alter the graphics in the core game (though they may in subsequent expansions) in order to maintain compatibility with the original game's modules (and because it would be too expensive). I applaud them for this. For years I have pointed to NWN as the last BioWare game that actually improved based on changes to its graphics. All the graphical advancements since, in my opinion, have been a waste if resources. NWN was also the last BioWare game with a decent UI. The graphics in NWN OC sucked in comparison to other games released at the same time (like Dungeon Siege). Hell, players had to create even decent foliage as a mod! NWN's graphics were as good as they needed to be. Any advancement beyond that is unnecessary.
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Post by Superhik on Dec 5, 2017 11:33:02 GMT
Still waiting for Beamdog to release a game of their own. imagine how many EE's that one would get!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 14:21:27 GMT
The graphics in NWN OC sucked in comparison to other games released at the same time (like Dungeon Siege). Hell, players had to create even decent foliage as a mod! NWN's graphics were as good as they needed to be. Any advancement beyond that is unnecessary. I thought it was the ugliest game ever made, and for a while it had me convinced that the move to 3D graphics was an unmitigated disaster. DAO and ME2 in their respective series is where I went: "no more improvements is fine with me" graphically. Inquisition gave me a smaller knee-jerk reaction of the: "you call this an improvement? Are you f***g kidding me?" as NWN1, but I am okay with Andromeda's iteration of Frostbite so I think I am getting mellow with age. If they would have refurbished the graphics, I would have actually considered the expansions, I think. The OC is a dud.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 5, 2017 21:37:28 GMT
I just hope the grahpics get improved to at least KOTOR level. My understanding is graphical improvements are going to be limited to the effect of being able to handle the resolutions of modern machines.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 22:26:01 GMT
I just hope the grahpics get improved to at least KOTOR level. My understanding is graphical improvements are going to be limited to the effect of being able to handle the resolutions of modern machines. A pity that. Not the modern res part, but that the upgrade is limited. if they could have at least pulled a conversion to NWN2 like TUTU did for BG1 it could have revitalized it...
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Dec 5, 2017 23:50:55 GMT
If they would have refurbished the graphics, I would have actually considered the expansions, I think. The OC is a dud. I like the OC, but I acknowledge that's an unusual opinion. I enjoyed SoU, but it was so linear I could only play it once. HotU I didn't finish.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Dec 7, 2017 14:09:54 GMT
If they would have refurbished the graphics, I would have actually considered the expansions, I think. The OC is a dud. I like the OC, but I acknowledge that's an unusual opinion. I enjoyed SoU, but it was so linear I could only play it once. HotU I didn't finish. I enjoyed all three. But that's partially because I enjoy the game system, and partially because I enjoyed replaying it as different classes and making different choices. Looking back I realize the plots weren't really stellar, and that there was railroading to be had in all of them, and some linearness to the other two.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 15:02:33 GMT
If they got the art past the "my eyes, oh gosh, my poor eyes! Let me unsee this, please!" state, I would be okay with linearity. Though I don't think I would play the OC. It was so boring. One of the very few games I just gave up on.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 7, 2017 16:41:59 GMT
If they got the art past the "my eyes, oh gosh, my poor eyes! Let me unsee this, please!" state, I would be okay with linearity. Though I don't think I would play the OC. It was so boring. One of the very few games I just gave up on. I think the OC was more a demo of what one could create with the modules, rather than a story in its own right. Something to show prospective mod makers which is what I think Neverwinter Nights was originally aimed at) SoU and HoU were "real" stories. As far as teh artwork goes, as long as the portraits look good, I'm fine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 16:52:47 GMT
Yes, I heard that theory, but as a sample campaign it double-sucks, ‘cause it should inspire modders and players, leave everyone with a yearning desire only the mods can fulfill, not make them run for the hills.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 7, 2017 17:00:16 GMT
Yes, I heard that theory, but as a sample campaign it double-sucks, ‘cause it should inspire modders and players, leave everyone with a yearning desire only the mods can fulfill, not make them run for the hills. Well, it seemed to work anyway...
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