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Post by Lavochkin on Dec 20, 2017 21:40:25 GMT
Beards are what separate the men from the boys.
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Post by Sweet FA on Dec 20, 2017 22:01:17 GMT
IDK about any of you but there was a thing in my family (older generation) that people with beards and facial hair were in some way dishonest and were not to be trusted. I recall one older female relative saying that "he's hiding behind that beard" and "I don't trust that man, he's got a beard because he's got something to hide". Maybe they thought they were disguising their features for some nefarious purpose.
BTW the quotes are from a woman and most of the women in my family don't like them.
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Post by mattig89ch on Dec 20, 2017 22:02:15 GMT
You know, I'm noticing a distinct lack of women responding in this thread. Could we get some more women telling is if they like beards or not, and why?
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Dec 20, 2017 22:07:50 GMT
I have a beard and I can say that beards are totally cool. Never shaving again (although I will trim it occasionally.)
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 20, 2017 23:06:28 GMT
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Dec 20, 2017 23:34:36 GMT
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Dec 20, 2017 23:44:06 GMT
People with sensitive skin can have that problem, but I find that it can often be attributed to the type of equipment you’re using. Currently, I use a Gilette Fusion5 ProGlide when I’m trying to get it close, and I never cut myself or leave anything irritated. If I change out the blades every month I won’t find myself tugging any hair on my face, which also causes irritation. If anything, I never need exfoliants. A regular razor would cut up my face. My beard hairs are curly so using a razor would be a mess with razor bumps, cuts, and my face all red. It would be more high maintenance to do that than to let it grow; if and only if I had any desire to shave my face. My scalp does not have this problem so I buzz/shave it with no hassle.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 20, 2017 23:49:47 GMT
Well the thread was originally meant for the women. That is why I thought the discussion was derailing the original purpose of the thread. All women here can participate as they please, there is plenty of space here. Your link is just repeating the debunked myth that was started by a news station in Albuquerque, NM: My link is mainly about the shape and construction of facial hair and the fact that it does lends itself to house bacteria, and to pass it onto others. I am not talking about the type of bacteria they have - or haven't- found in beards. That ''poop in beards'' bacteria article is indeed pretty misleading. Its a pretty logical conclusion that a beard houses and traps bacteria and other harmful matter due to its construction, and its close proximity to orifices that leak bodily fluids, and where organic matter is put into on a daily basis. Its also a logical conclusion that, when touching your beard or giving other kisses said bacteria and fluids gets spread and passed onto others. Its simply the construction. People with sensitive skin can have that problem, but I find that it can often be attributed to the type of equipment you’re using. Currently, I use a Gilette Fusion5 ProGlide when I’m trying to get it close, and I never cut myself or leave anything irritated. If I change out the blades every month I won’t find myself tugging any hair on my face, which also causes irritation. If anything, I never need exfoliants. A regular razor would cut up my face. My beard hairs are curly so using a razor would be a mess with razor bumps, cuts, and my face all red. It would be more high maintenance to do that than to let it grow; if and only if I had any desire to shave my face. My scalp does not have this problem so I buzz/shave it with no hassle. Use your hair trimmer, simply remove the distance hair cut length attachment thingy. Use a flat angle - Problem solved. No bumps, no injuries, no shaving cream.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Dec 20, 2017 23:51:54 GMT
Don't worry I don't mind if filthy men want to post in this topic, be interesting to see how both men and women perceive beards, what men think of their beards and what they think women think of their beards and what women actually think of beards.
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Dec 21, 2017 0:12:55 GMT
Well the thread was originally meant for the women. That is why I thought the discussion was derailing the original purpose of the thread. All women here can participate as they please, there is plenty of space here. Your link is just repeating the debunked myth that was started by a news station in Albuquerque, NM: My link is mainly about the shape and construction of facial hair and the fact that it does lends itself to house bacteria, and to pass it onto others. I am not talking about the type of bacteria they have - or haven't- found in beards. That ''poop in beards'' bacteria article is indeed pretty misleading. Its a pretty logical conclusion that a beard houses and traps bacteria and other harmful matter due to its construction, and its close proximity to orifices that leak bodily fluids, and where organic matter is put into on a daily basis. Its also a logical conclusion that, when touching your beard or giving other kisses said bacteria and fluids gets spread and passed onto others. Its simply the construction. A regular razor would cut up my face. My beard hairs are curly so using a razor would be a mess with razor bumps, cuts, and my face all red. It would be more high maintenance to do that than to let it grow; if and only if I had any desire to shave my face. My scalp does not have this problem so I buzz/shave it with no hassle. Use your hair trimmer, simply remove the distance hair cut length attachment thingy. Use a flat angle - Problem solved. No bumps, no injuries, no shaving cream. Yes, the shape of the beard and its thick hairs would definitely imply that it would block bacteria from your skin. But in comparison to a shaved face, does it harbor more germs? What I have read online the answer is either no or inconclusive. The reality is our bodies are germy messes. Especially our mouths and other spots; so I think beard germs are the least concern germ-wise when kissing someone. I use an Andi's trimmer which is similar to the one above. But the hassle of shaving is not the reasons why I grow mine. I really do like my beard and it is not for being a hipster or the recent trendy thing to do.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 21, 2017 0:30:23 GMT
Yes, the shape of the beard and its thick hairs would definitely imply that it would block bacteria from your skin. But in comparison to a shaved face, does it harbor more germs? What I have read online the answer is either no or inconclusive. The reality is our bodies are germy messes. Especially our mouths and other spots; so I think beard germs are the least concern germ-wise when kissing someone. I am not talking about the germs on the skin, they are there already, whether you shave or not. However, the beard has all the properties of a sponge, it has a very big surface area in a relatively compact shape. This simply adds a lot of extra space for the skin bacteria to grow - also because it is much harder to remove thanks to the skin blocking washing attempts-, and other germs that find their way into the beard by food (You'd be amazed by the tiny wildlife that exists on proper food) and other bodily liquids like snot, spit etc. The cause for smelly armpits is bacteria shit, hairy armpits are magnitudes more smelly simply because the bacteria that already naturally occurs there spreads over the hair and increases it numbers dramatically, therefore creating more smelly bacteria excrement. Thats a scientific and well known fact. Its simply much more living space for them. This is not exclusive to armpit hair or that kind of bacteria, so the logical conclusion is that facial hair has very similar effects. And it is backed by scientists who said that facial hair lends itself especially well to capture and house bacteria. Beards may not be the germs version of Pandora's box but they are definitely much less clean simply by design and physics. Beard is lots of extra stuff to keep clean, in an area that is not very clean, and its hard to clean. I use it every other day, last time I shaved my beard was during a weight lifting break when I noticed that I forgot to shave. My break last exactly 4 minutes and finished well in time. It probably takes me 2 minutes to finish it, maybe less. My face is not a pizza.
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Dec 21, 2017 1:13:00 GMT
Yes, the shape of the beard and its thick hairs would definitely imply that it would block bacteria from your skin. But in comparison to a shaved face, does it harbor more germs? What I have read online the answer is either no or inconclusive. The reality is our bodies are germy messes. Especially our mouths and other spots; so I think beard germs are the least concern germ-wise when kissing someone. I am not talking about the germs on the skin, they are there already, whether you shave or not. However, the beard has all the properties of a sponge, it has a very big surface area in a relatively compact shape. This simply adds a lot of extra space for the skin bacteria to grow - also because it is much harder to remove thanks to the skin blocking washing attempts-, and other germs that find their way into the beard by food (You'd be amazed by the tiny wildlife that exists on proper food) and other bodily liquids like snot, spit etc. The cause for smelly armpits is bacteria shit, hairy armpits are magnitudes more smelly simply because the bacteria that already naturally occurs there spreads over the hair and increases it numbers dramatically, therefore creating more smelly bacteria excrement. Thats a scientific and well known fact. Its simply much more living space for them. This is not exclusive to armpit hair or that kind of bacteria, so the logical conclusion is that facial hair has very similar effects. And it is backed by scientists who said that facial hair lends itself especially well to capture and house bacteria. Beards may not be the germs version of Pandora's box but they are definitely much less clean simply by design and physics. Beard is lots of extra stuff to keep clean, in an area that is not very clean, and its hard to clean. I use it every other day, last time I shaved my beard was during a weight lifting break when I noticed that I forgot to shave. My break last exactly 4 minutes and finished well in time. It probably takes me 2 minutes to finish it, maybe less. My face is not a pizza. So the scientists, and their studies that found no evidence that supports beards are no more germy than shaven faces, are incorrect in your view? I am a man who likes empirical evidence from experts in the scientific field. You are not providing anything sources that backs up your statements. And a beard being hard to clean? It is no harder to clean then other hair. Soap, brush, and balm/conditioner is all you need. It only takes me minutes to wash and apply the balm on my beard. A little longer in brushing since I have curly beard hairs. But it is not definitely high maintenance cleaning it and making it look good in public.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 21, 2017 1:53:13 GMT
So the scientists, and their studies that found no evidence that supports beards are no more germy than shaven faces, are incorrect in your view? I am a man who likes empirical evidence from experts in the scientific field. You are not providing anything sources that backs up your statements. No, read my source again, they claimed they found way more bacteria. And even ignoring science completely, you cannot ignore logics and physics. Stuff gets stuck in beards more easily, skin stuff gets stuck in beard above it, stuff has germs on it, germs are in beard. Skin is is smooth surface, stuff does not get stuck in it nearly as much as in rough course hair ball, skin is cleaner. You cannot deny these facts. Smooth surfaces with little surface area are always much cleaner and easier to clean than sponge-like surfaces with tons of surface area. Wait, you are actually complaining about shaving with an electronic hair trimmer yet you go through all this cleaning procedure no problem? Whats easier and more throughly to clean and keep clean: bare skin, or skin with lots of hair on it? So if you are shaved its much easier to keep your skin clean. My scalp is definitely much harder to clean than my face, or any other bare skin on my body, and its less curly and rough than facial hair.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Dec 21, 2017 2:48:56 GMT
Who cares, it's cold out and I like my face warm.
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Post by Cyonan on Dec 21, 2017 3:29:32 GMT
Don't worry I don't mind if filthy men want to post in this topic, be interesting to see how both men and women perceive beards, what men think of their beards and what they think women think of their beards and what women actually think of beards. My experience is that the beard tends to be hit or miss with women. Either they love it or hate it. Or maybe it's just me they love or hate. I don't know =P
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Dec 21, 2017 3:37:43 GMT
Putting this in spoilers because no ones gives a shit. And frankly I tire of this conversation. So the scientists, and their studies that found no evidence that supports beards are no more germy than shaven faces, are incorrect in your view? I am a man who likes empirical evidence from experts in the scientific field. You are not providing anything sources that backs up your statements. No, read my source again, they claimed they found way more bacteria. And even ignoring science completely, you cannot ignore logics and physics. Stuff gets stuck in beards more easily, skin stuff gets stuck in beard above it, stuff has germs on it, germs are in beard. Skin is is smooth surface, stuff does not get stuck in it nearly as much as in rough course hair ball, skin is cleaner. You cannot deny these facts. Smooth surfaces with little surface area are always much cleaner and easier to clean than sponge-like surfaces with tons of surface area. Wait, you are actually complaining about shaving with an electronic hair trimmer yet you go through all this cleaning procedure no problem? Whats easier and more throughly to clean and keep clean: bare skin, or skin with lots of hair on it? So if you are shaved its much easier to keep your skin clean. My scalp is definitely much harder to clean than my face, or any other bare skin on my body, and its less curly and rough than facial hair. You mean the Anaesthesia study in the Dailymail? That test had 30 total subjects; 10 bearded males, 10 shaven males, and 10 females. The effect of facial hair and sex on the dispersal of bacteria below a masked subject.This one, that was mentioned in a link I submitted earlier, had a total of 408 male healthcare workers with or without facial hair. Bacterial ecology of hospital workers’ facial hair: a cross-sectional study"Overall, colonization is similar in male healthcare workers with and without facial hair; however, certain bacterial species were more prevalent in workers without facial hair." Without knowledge of the factors, experimental procedures, etc... of the 1st one, the latter one seems more credible as the number of subjects is much higher. The number of subjects in the earlier experiment seems too small for reliable results. Your argument is basically about the design of the beard hairs and the physics of food getting caught. Well unless one is a slob, the number of food particles on a beard vs a clean shaven face is not much. And when you make a mess on your beard, you wipe it away with a napkin like you would with your face. I never challenged the hairs were easier to clean then smooth but it is hardly much harder though. 30 seconds of washing the beard with soap cleans it and removes the bacteria when showering. Again unless you are a lazy slob it does not make your beard more germy than a shaven face. Cleaning procedure? It is hardly complex. You are greatly over exaggerating it. My complaint about shaving my face was the aftereffects of irritated, damaged skin from shaving. I rather avoid dealing with the irritation and waste a few extra minutes brushing and applying beard balm.
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Dec 21, 2017 4:27:56 GMT
Putting this in spoilers because no ones gives a shit. And frankly I tire of this conversation. No, read my source again, they claimed they found way more bacteria. And even ignoring science completely, you cannot ignore logics and physics. Stuff gets stuck in beards more easily, skin stuff gets stuck in beard above it, stuff has germs on it, germs are in beard. Skin is is smooth surface, stuff does not get stuck in it nearly as much as in rough course hair ball, skin is cleaner. You cannot deny these facts. Smooth surfaces with little surface area are always much cleaner and easier to clean than sponge-like surfaces with tons of surface area. Wait, you are actually complaining about shaving with an electronic hair trimmer yet you go through all this cleaning procedure no problem? Whats easier and more throughly to clean and keep clean: bare skin, or skin with lots of hair on it? So if you are shaved its much easier to keep your skin clean. My scalp is definitely much harder to clean than my face, or any other bare skin on my body, and its less curly and rough than facial hair. You mean the Anaesthesia study in the Dailymail? That test had 30 total subjects; 10 bearded males, 10 shaven males, and 10 females. The effect of facial hair and sex on the dispersal of bacteria below a masked subject.This one, that was mentioned in a link I submitted earlier, had a total of 408 male healthcare workers with or without facial hair. Bacterial ecology of hospital workers’ facial hair: a cross-sectional study"Overall, colonization is similar in male healthcare workers with and without facial hair; however, certain bacterial species were more prevalent in workers without facial hair." Without knowledge of the factors, experimental procedures, etc... of the 1st one, the latter one seems more credible as the number of subjects is much higher. The number of subjects in the earlier experiment seems too small for reliable results. Your argument is basically about the design of the beard hairs and the physics of food getting caught. Well unless one is a slob, the number of food particles on a beard vs a clean shaven face is not much. And when you make a mess on your beard, you wipe it away with a napkin like you would with your face. I never challenged the hairs were easier to clean then smooth but it is hardly much harder though. 30 seconds of washing the beard with soap cleans it and removes the bacteria when showering. Again unless you are a lazy slob it does not make your beard more germy than a shaven face. Cleaning procedure? It is hardly complex. You are greatly over exaggerating it. My complaint about shaving my face was the aftereffects of irritated, damaged skin from shaving. I rather avoid dealing with the irritation and waste a few extra minutes brushing and applying beard balm. I dunno I can't really comment on the cleanliness of beards however it does seem like a conversation that really isn't going anywhere due to both of you citing different studies that both have different findings and in all honesty if I look up the same topic I seem to get a lot of contradicting sources as well, without having done the tests myself and I can't really say which ones are accurate and to be honest these days it is very hard to know which studies to trust or what biases those conducting the study may hold. I find a lot of studies these days are mostly done to prove a certain hypothesis and aren't as thorough as they should be focusing only on methods that provide a result favorable to the hypothesis they are trying to prove while ignoring any data that does not. However whether a beard is more hygienic than no beard is not the point, I am guessing the reason you have a beard has less to do with maintenance and hygiene and more to do with the fact that you just like having a beard, am I correct? You don't have to justify your beard to anyone, if you like having a beard and think you look good with a beard then that is all that matters.
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Post by Artemis on Dec 21, 2017 5:38:49 GMT
Some men look very handsome with a beard; some men look handsome with some scruff, while others look very handsome clean-shaven. Not much else to say. Silly topic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 7:50:17 GMT
Short beard or stubble is okay, style can vary. Longer beard can suit its owner but I am not in favor.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Dec 22, 2017 8:01:21 GMT
Well the thread was originally meant for the women. That is why I thought the discussion was derailing the original purpose of the thread. All women here can participate as they please, there is plenty of space here. Your link is just repeating the debunked myth that was started by a news station in Albuquerque, NM: My link is mainly about the shape and construction of facial hair and the fact that it does lends itself to house bacteria, and to pass it onto others. I am not talking about the type of bacteria they have - or haven't- found in beards. That ''poop in beards'' bacteria article is indeed pretty misleading. Its a pretty logical conclusion that a beard houses and traps bacteria and other harmful matter due to its construction, and its close proximity to orifices that leak bodily fluids, and where organic matter is put into on a daily basis. Its also a logical conclusion that, when touching your beard or giving other kisses said bacteria and fluids gets spread and passed onto others. Its simply the construction. A regular razor would cut up my face. My beard hairs are curly so using a razor would be a mess with razor bumps, cuts, and my face all red. It would be more high maintenance to do that than to let it grow; if and only if I had any desire to shave my face. My scalp does not have this problem so I buzz/shave it with no hassle. Use your hair trimmer, simply remove the distance hair cut length attachment thingy. Use a flat angle - Problem solved. No bumps, no injuries, no shaving cream. I got this a while ago (late 2017). I cut myself 5 times in the first trimming (without the comb), but I became expert fast. Barely 1 cut per trimming now. It being sharp and charged in 1 hour (never ran out of battery while trimming) is very advantageous.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 8:55:50 GMT
Mostly no. Stubble and a light amount of hair looks good, but a lot of thick hair is a no to me. This is attractive: This, not so much: Though it may really just depend on how well kept it is, but I'm not to keen on kissing someone with a well kept beard.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 9:09:03 GMT
I don't mind a beard on a woman
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Post by Gandalf the Fabulous on Dec 22, 2017 9:42:13 GMT
Mostly no. Stubble and a light amount of hair looks good, but a lot of thick hair is a no to me. This is attractive: Wow really? Mostly included that one as a joke, is it the style of the beard in particular that looks good or is it the guy himself that looks attractive and manages to pull off the beard but would look better if he went with just gold old fashioned stubble or a less elaborately groomed beard?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 9:50:15 GMT
Mostly no. Stubble and a light amount of hair looks good, but a lot of thick hair is a no to me. This is attractive: Wow really? Mostly included that one as a joke, is it the style of the beard in particular that looks good or is it the guy himself that looks attractive and manages to pull off the beard but would look better if he went with just gold old fashioned stubble or a less elaborately groomed beard? That particular style looks too sleazy to my taste. 2 day stubble is my favorite.
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Post by nanotm on Dec 22, 2017 10:40:55 GMT
the only beard i like on my face is between my wife's thighs, and judging from how she is i'd say her feelings are similar :lmfao:
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