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Post by river82 on Dec 31, 2017 2:17:22 GMT
Look, David Gaider doesn’t hate dwarves or dwarf romances. He is not the reason there has not been any dwarf romances. End of discussion. I will not continue arguing this point, so don’t bother replying. Once more you post a strawman. There has been no statement in this thread that Gaider hates Dwarfs. Also your demands won't change my behaviour, I'll reply when I want to. Got a problem with that then block me. |
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Post by sageoflife on Dec 31, 2017 2:18:46 GMT
TC, it's not Bioware's fault that the only women you see are the pornstars and supermodels on your computer.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 31, 2017 2:31:14 GMT
That's good advice for anyone! |
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Post by river82 on Dec 31, 2017 2:35:06 GMT
That's good advice for anyone! Because what we need in this world are more people who adopt a position because it's the position of somebody they like and fewer who know how to think for themselves. Great. |
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 31, 2017 2:36:17 GMT
That's good advice for anyone! Because what we need in this world are more people who adopt a position because it's the position of somebody they like and fewer who know how to think for themselves. Great. Right. That's totally what I was saying. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Dec 31, 2017 2:37:45 GMT
I think Cassandra is very pretty. I pick up a lot of Sophia Loren in her looks. Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts was totally a wasted opportunity IMO to see her at her most elegant and striking. I agree, there was a lot of potential for her in that chapter but she was left out a lot for some odd reason. TC, it's not Bioware's fault that the only women you see are the pornstars and supermodels on your computer. Yea its those damned pop-ups I tell ya!  |
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Post by river82 on Dec 31, 2017 2:38:38 GMT
Because what we need in this world are more people who adopt a position because it's the position of somebody they like and fewer who know how to think for themselves. Great. Right. That's totally what I was saying. Then what were you saying? |
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 31, 2017 2:43:52 GMT
Right. That's totally what I was saying. Then what were you saying? That it's good advice to listen to people who thoughtfully explain things to you and cite their sources. |
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Post by river82 on Dec 31, 2017 2:47:14 GMT
Then what were you saying? That it's good advice to listen to people who thoughtfully explain things to you and cite their sources. And yet he's wrong. So your advice would have me listen to a man who's wrong purely because he explains things and cites sources. Excellent. I will now listen to Donald Trump because he also explains things and cites sources |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 31, 2017 2:48:41 GMT
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 31, 2017 2:53:53 GMT
That it's good advice to listen to people who thoughtfully explain things to you and cite their sources. And yet he's wrong. So your advice would have me listen to a man who's wrong purely because he explains things and cites sources. Excellent. I will now listen to Donald Trump because he also explains things and cites sources I don't know why you're arguing with me about what I think of shechinah instead of, you know, countering their arguments if you're so sure everyone else is in the wrong here. |
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Post by river82 on Dec 31, 2017 2:57:24 GMT
I don't know why you're arguing with me about what I think of shechinah instead of, you know, countering their arguments if you're so sure everyone else is in the wrong here. I did. 3rd post on this page. He's using a misinterpretation of a post on the fex forums to back up his arguments. Because his interpretation is incorrect his post no longer has a source to back it up. Gaider may have explained things differently in another instance, but listening to posts that abuse sources to back up points isn't the sort of advice I'd hand out, but that's just me. |
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Post by river82 on Dec 31, 2017 3:08:38 GMT
I'm glad we're entertaining you. Here you go, have this (you'll need to add your own butter though)   |
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 31, 2017 3:22:33 GMT
Cass is pretty great. For the record though, Josie is always bisexual. Romancing her as a dude doesn't make her straight. Yes, and it's adorable.  "You know, I sort of miss the Qunari. They didn't talk much, but they were easy on the eyes." Regarding Josephine, yes no matter what Josephine is available to both sexes so she isn't turned straight or gay, though her writer did say the player could see her as asexual or demisexual. Regarding Merrill, I really wouldn't call that "swooning". Her voice as she says it also isn't swoony. - Remembers how Merrill reacts with glee at the possibility of finally hearing anything "dirty," especially Isabela's stories.
- Remembers when speaking to party members in the final battle, and regardless of whether or not she was romanced, it's possible to get this exchange:
Merrill: Does all this feel like a dream to you, too?
Hawke: In a moment, I'll look down and see I have no pants on.
Merrill: [giggles] The Champion of Kirkwall, going to battle naked. (beat, then dreamily) Why can't I ever have that dream?
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- Remembers how said love scene was so good that Merrill upgrades to a shinier wardrobe.
- Remembers when Legacy reveals that she's been reading Anders' grimoire in the hope of finding "dirty spells" to "make things more exciting" between her and Hawke, if they romance her.
Headcanon whatever you like, but Canon Merrill likes sex  !
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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 31, 2017 3:25:57 GMT
Walter Black Okay but, Hanako wasn't saying that Merrill doesn't like sex, only that they didn't think that particular line was said in a swoony manner.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 31, 2017 3:48:34 GMT
Regarding Josephine, yes no matter what Josephine is available to both sexes so she isn't turned straight or gay, though her writer did say the player could see her as asexual or demisexual. Regarding Merrill, I really wouldn't call that "swooning". Her voice as she says it also isn't swoony. - Remembers how Merrill reacts with glee at the possibility of finally hearing anything "dirty," especially Isabela's stories.
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Merrill: Does all this feel like a dream to you, too?
Hawke: In a moment, I'll look down and see I have no pants on.
Merrill: [giggles] The Champion of Kirkwall, going to battle naked. (beat, then dreamily) Why can't I ever have that dream?
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- Remembers how said love scene was so good that Merrill upgrades to a shinier wardrobe.
- Remembers when Legacy reveals that she's been reading Anders' grimoire in the hope of finding "dirty spells" to "make things more exciting" between her and Hawke, if they romance her.
Headcanon whatever you like, but Canon Merrill likes sex  !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:47:31 GMT
But Bull's so beautiful with his perfect little paunch and sweet smile and HIM BIG.  Bull's ugly. I think he was purposely designed to be down to earth and ugly, to counter all the expectations people had after Arishok, Ketojan and Sten.... |
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Post by Catilina on Dec 31, 2017 11:59:31 GMT
But Bull's so beautiful with his perfect little paunch and sweet smile and HIM BIG.  Bull's ugly. I think he was purposely designed to be down to earth and ugly, to counter all the expectations people had after Arishok, Ketojan and Sten.... Bull has his own charm. To be honest: Arishok and Sten also not that beautiful, but still sexy. |
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Post by Fredward on Dec 31, 2017 12:44:03 GMT
Bull isn't attractive, Sten is average/forgettable looking, Arishok was good looking in a much constipated broody kinda way and we couldn't see Ketojan's face lol.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 31, 2017 12:52:40 GMT
Bull isn't attractive, Sten is average/forgettable looking, Arishok was good looking in a much constipated broody kinda way and we couldn't see Ketojan's face lol. Bull is typical that man (for me, ofc), whom I need to know, for find his charm. At first, I didn't find him attractive. (But I didn't even found attractive Fenris at first –from other reasons–, I'm into the "classical beauty", my type is Anders, for example, who is really far from Bull.) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 13:16:45 GMT
Bull isn't attractive, Sten is average/forgettable looking, Arishok was good looking in a much constipated broody kinda way and we couldn't see Ketojan's face lol. But they all were grand and mysterious, while IB's appearance is mundane and so is his character. What was appealing about Sten, Arishok and Ketojan was the air of mystique, and the way they were straight out of the high fantasy & were highly romanticized characters. Bull looks and sounds like he is from a bar; he is an aging reprobate with an offer of casual "sex" and some kinky stuff on top of it to "spice" it up, rather than a Romance. I don't play video games' romances to get what's locally available and dime-a-dozen. In short, while I do not agree with the OP's wording or his take on Cassandra, I would very much want to see back the romances of the DAO and DA2 style, with the highly romanticized characters. In fact, I do think that males do get those in DAI, with Dorian and Cassandra... just not the female PCs of non-elven extraction. |
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Post by Fredward on Dec 31, 2017 13:25:53 GMT
Bull isn't attractive, Sten is average/forgettable looking, Arishok was good looking in a much constipated broody kinda way and we couldn't see Ketojan's face lol. Bull is typical that man (for me, ofc), whom I need to know, for find his charm. At first, I didn't find him attractive. (But I didn't even found attractive Fenris at first –from other reasons–, I'm into the "classical beauty", my type is Anders, for example, who is really far from Bull.) Generally wrt video games attractiveness is a secondary concern for me just cuz I don't need to be attracted to them, my characters do. I evaluate looks along with everything else and if my character is down with it's cool. For Bull he looks like someone who took a flail to the face on account of he is someone who took a flail to the face, not necessarily something a sheltered Circle mage would want to wake up next to but barely even comment-worthy for a qunari mercenary. |
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 31, 2017 13:44:02 GMT
Bull isn't attractive, Sten is average/forgettable looking, Arishok was good looking in a much constipated broody kinda way and we couldn't see Ketojan's face lol. But they all were grand and mysterious, while IB's appearance is mundane and so is his character. What was appealing about Sten, Arishok and Ketojan was the air of mystique, and the way they were straight out of the high fantasy & were highly romanticized characters. Bull looks and sounds like he is from a bar; he is an aging reprobate with an offer of casual "sex" and some kinky stuff on top of it to "spice" it up, rather than a Romance. I don't play video games' romances to get what's locally available and dime-a-dozen. In short, while I do not agree with the OP's wording or his take on Cassandra, I would very much want to see back the romances of the DAO and DA2 style, with the highly romanticized characters. In fact, I do think that males do get those in DAI, with Dorian and Cassandra... just not the female PCs of non-elven extraction. Hahahahahahahah HAHHAHAAHHAH AHHAHHAHAHAHAH Let's see Iron Bull - A dragon-orc-bull person who was brainwashed by a cult, now serving the Inquisition who he will betray if you don't force him out of his culty family, then you fall in love with each other adding a layer of confusion and distress to Bull's situation of him trying to figure out who he is and where his loyalty stands. You will have to kill him if you didn't save him from the Qun, and he wall stand by your side, loyal, if you did. Romance starts out as fun and casual, but it develops into something much more, for both of you, if you let it. Dorian Pavus - Some human noble with daddy issues and commitment problems. Relationship is all about him him him, you strum to to the beat of his drum, he does what he pleases and kills any kind of romance with his '' SASSINESS '' and uses it as a defense mechanism at any given time. When you do something reckless, he pouts and whines, when he does something uncalled for and selfish, he just goes all sassy bitch and does everything to make the Inquisitor look like some kind of emotionally needy, clingy asshole. Such romance, huh. Disclaimer: Both romances are pretty meh for my taste, and I'm sure you can make Bull's romance sound bad, even worse if you describe it like how I did with Dorian. BUT, to say that Dorian's romance is romanticized and more romantic? Nu-uh, no freaking way, nope. |
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 31, 2017 13:50:14 GMT
Bull is typical that man (for me, ofc), whom I need to know, for find his charm. At first, I didn't find him attractive. (But I didn't even found attractive Fenris at first –from other reasons–, I'm into the "classical beauty", my type is Anders, for example, who is really far from Bull.) Generally wrt video games attractiveness is a secondary concern for me just cuz I don't need to be attracted to them, my characters do. I evaluate looks along with everything else and if my character is down with it's cool. For Bull he looks like someone who took a flail to the face on account of he is someone who took a flail to the face, not necessarily something a sheltered Circle mage would want to wake up next to but barely even comment-worthy for a qunari mercenary. That is a LIE. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 13:51:32 GMT
But they all were grand and mysterious, while IB's appearance is mundane and so is his character. What was appealing about Sten, Arishok and Ketojan was the air of mystique, and the way they were straight out of the high fantasy & were highly romanticized characters. Bull looks and sounds like he is from a bar; he is an aging reprobate with an offer of casual "sex" and some kinky stuff on top of it to "spice" it up, rather than a Romance. I don't play video games' romances to get what's locally available and dime-a-dozen. In short, while I do not agree with the OP's wording or his take on Cassandra, I would very much want to see back the romances of the DAO and DA2 style, with the highly romanticized characters. In fact, I do think that males do get those in DAI, with Dorian and Cassandra... just not the female PCs of non-elven extraction. Hahahahahahahah HAHHAHAAHHAH AHHAHHAHAHAHAH Let's see Iron Bull - A dragon-orc-bull person who was brainwashed by a cult, now serving the Inquisition who he will betray if you don't force him out of his culty family, then you fall in love with each other adding a layer of confusion and distress to Bull's situation of him trying to figure out who he is and where his loyalty stands. You will have to kill him if you didn't save him from the Qun, and he wall stand by your side, loyal, if you did. Romance starts out as fun and casual, but it develops into something much more, for both of you, if you let it. Dorian Pavus - Some human noble with daddy issues and commitment problems. Relationship is all about him him him, you strum to to the beat of his drum, he does what he pleases and kills any kind of romance with his '' SASSINESS '' and uses it as a defense mechanism at any given time. When you do something reckless, he pouts and whines, when he does something uncalled for and selfish, he just goes all sassy bitch and does everything to make the Inquisitor look like some kind of emotionally needy, clingy asshole. Such romance, huh. Dorian appears during a quest where he plays a role that is hyper-attractive. He is intelligent, his dialogues are full of sparks. he is with you for a long time, your one life-line in the terrible past. It is a real adventure to start a lovestory. He speaks of Tevinter and the Imperial syndrome with an unrivaled passion, hitting upon the novel and interesting topics and invoking deep emotional response. His dialogues are actually conversations. His romance is as romantic as it gets from the get go till the very end. It emphasizes high love rather than sex. He is pretty much one of the only things that makes the game worth playing, and if only he was romanceable with a female PC I would have zero complaints or if Cullen/Solas did not have racial restrictions even if a gender one is by some reason a paramount. On the other hand, Bull is just drops into the Skyhold after some half-arsed battle on the shore, is rude to you from the get go, and lectures you on Qunari expecting you to just listen, listen and listen and by some unfathomable reason... like him, let alone fall in love with him?! And purposefully tells you how feelings are not important it's all sex to him, whores and all that. There is nothing to fall in love with there. That you can kill him is about the only appealing thing about him. DAI is really messed up where the romances are concerned, but it is certainly not for a male PC. Male PCs are so fortunate. At the very least they are not told to "just play elf". |
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