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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 3, 2018 7:05:29 GMT
Instead iirc. On a male Inquisitor this obviously plays fine, the flirting vanilla female won’t see it at all, but I think there is a vanilla option that bypasses consummation but does not terminate the lovestory.. if it does not, well, that’s why it is a headcanon vs canon When he approaches you in your quarters, you can take one of three paths: sex, no-sex, or end the romance. If you take the sex route, there is the option to have a full romance, to terminate the relationship (one night stand), or continue as friends with benefits. If you take the no-sex route, you forgo sex at that time, but the implication is that you will have sex eventually. Dorian is not asexual; he wants to have sex. Or you can state that you want to just be friends, but that does terminate the romance path. There is no romance after that point, because you're just friends. [edit] Both the sex and no-sex route, the only way to continue the romance, contain a full explanation about the nature of gay relationships in Tevinter. Well, for altus class, anyway.
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Post by river82 on Jan 3, 2018 7:11:58 GMT
Isn't it great that when a game finally gives equal options, a few people have to decide that equality's not enough and it's wrong to keep things from them? Bioware cRPGs are rooted in the tabletop experience, the tabletop experience is all about player created stories, player created stories emphasise player choice, Bioware's been reducing the amount of player choice recently, the logical assumption would be that if modding is possible people will attempt to expand player choice. I see no problem with this because mods only affect the people who choose to install that mod. Ain't mods great? Ain't player choice great? No? You don't like others altering the game to suit them? Then that's your problem *shrugs*
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 3, 2018 7:13:21 GMT
There's no love story though, because as a gay man Dorian is incapable of falling in love with a woman. I get that you don't get that it's a big deal, but honestly... insisting on calling the mod a love story or a romance when Dorian, a gay man, would feel violated and distinctly unloved by someone unapologetically "changing" his orientation is a bit much. Headcanon as you please. The man can't love a female Inquisitor romantically. I'll also add that, during the Halward conversation, you can ask if he's ever been with a woman*. He says that he hasn't, and basically says that women are nice and everything, but he's just not into them that way. * I never go this route, but it's there nonetheless.
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Post by sageoflife on Jan 3, 2018 7:23:48 GMT
Isn't it great that when a game finally gives equal options, a few people have to decide that equality's not enough and it's wrong to keep things from them? Bioware cRPGs are rooted in the tabletop experience, the tabletop experience is all about player created stories, player created stories emphasise player choice, Bioware's been reducing the amount of player choice recently, the logical assumption would be that if modding is possible people will attempt to expand player choice. I see no problem with this because mods only affect the people who choose to install that mod. Ain't mods great? Ain't player choice great? No? You don't like others altering the game to suit them? Then that's your problem *shrugs* *Sees Bioware go from giving six options to straight players only to giving options to multiple orientations. Sees claim that Bioware is reducing player choice by doing so.*
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Post by pavellaning on Jan 3, 2018 7:26:51 GMT
I don't understand the people who are salty about not being able to romance Dorian with their female Inquisitor. Just make a male Lavellan and romance them.
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Post by river82 on Jan 3, 2018 7:34:42 GMT
*Sees Bioware go from giving six options to straight players only to giving options to multiple orientations. Sees claim that Bioware is reducing player choice by doing so.* Your argument is flawed. It also contains a blatant strawman. I've noticed that when people have little to say or they rely overly on fallacies they tend to laugh a lot, like your classic village idiot. In any case having 2 romance options is one step away from having no options at all. Dialogue options decreasing, romance options decreasing, I remember the days when Bioware devs (Erikson) used to mock JRPGs for not being actual RPGs, oh how the world turns ...
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 3, 2018 7:36:34 GMT
I don't understand the people who are salty about not being able to romance Dorian with their female Inquisitor. Just make a male Lavellan and romance them. But, but... Dorian x Cadash.
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Post by pavellaning on Jan 3, 2018 7:38:37 GMT
I don't understand the people who are salty about not being able to romance Dorian with their female Inquisitor. Just make a male Lavellan and romance them. But, but... Dorian x Cadash. Not my cup of tea. I like giving Dorian pretty men. Call me shallow, but I like to romance him with someone at least as pretty as he is.
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Post by sageoflife on Jan 3, 2018 7:40:08 GMT
*Sees Bioware go from giving six options to straight players only to giving options to multiple orientations. Sees claim that Bioware is reducing player choice by doing so.* Your argument is flawed. It also contains a blatant strawman. I've noticed that when people have little to say or they rely overly on fallacies they tend to laugh a lot, like your classic village idiot. In any case having 2 romance options is one step away from having no options at all. Dialogue options decreasing, romance options decreasing, I remember the days when Bioware devs (Erikson) used to mock JRPGs for not being actual RPGs, oh how the world turns ... Oh, really, you just called me a village idiot, but you want to talk about people not having arguments? You want to talk about blatant strawmen when you are arguing that romances are decreasing?
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 3, 2018 7:42:52 GMT
In any case having 2 romance options is one step away from having no options at all. Dialogue options decreasing, romance options decreasing I don't know where they're decreasing, but it's not in Dragon Age. Straight men have had the same number of options since DAO.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 3, 2018 7:45:57 GMT
Your argument is flawed. It also contains a blatant strawman. I've noticed that when people have little to say or they rely overly on fallacies they tend to laugh a lot, like your classic village idiot. In any case having 2 romance options is one step away from having no options at all. Dialogue options decreasing, romance options decreasing, I remember the days when Bioware devs (Erikson) used to mock JRPGs for not being actual RPGs, oh how the world turns ... There are eight romance options in DAI, the statement that romance options is decreasing is objectively incorrect. You might wanna change that to "Straight male romance, the demographic to rule them all [and in the darkness bland them], is decreasing and is now more or less in line with other people and that's just not on" if you wanna not be disingenuous.
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Post by Verfallen on Jan 3, 2018 7:47:05 GMT
In any case having 2 romance options is one step away from having no options at all. Dialogue options decreasing, romance options decreasing, I remember the days when Bioware devs (Erikson) used to mock JRPGs for not being actual RPGs, oh how the world turns ... Though I may be accused of lacking proper gravitas on the subject-- technically, having two romance options is two steps away from having none at all. And I'd rather have two well-written options than six poorly executed ones. (No, that is not inviting any dissection of how well-written DAI's romances are; it's just a general observation.)
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Post by river82 on Jan 3, 2018 7:49:44 GMT
Your argument is flawed. It also contains a blatant strawman. I've noticed that when people have little to say or they rely overly on fallacies they tend to laugh a lot, like your classic village idiot. In any case having 2 romance options is one step away from having no options at all. Dialogue options decreasing, romance options decreasing, I remember the days when Bioware devs (Erikson) used to mock JRPGs for not being actual RPGs, oh how the world turns ... Oh, really, you just called me a village idiot, but you want to talk about people not having arguments? You want to talk about blatant strawmen when you are arguing that romances are decreasing? Did I? Did you want a tissue? I'm not arguing that romances are decreasing, I'm arguing that player choice is decreasing overall and people are heading to mods to overcome that. It's what these sorts of games promise, choice and consequence. Except they then enter the game and experience very little choice and very little consequence. But I will take up the mantle of the argument you thrust upon me, even though I wasn't actually arguing it. You take 6 romance choices away from one demographic and split it 2,2,2 and you go from a game that has great player choice for one demographic to one that has barely anything at all for all demographics. The ideal option would be to raise the number of romances for all demographics, which Bioware has not done. Ever heard of the phrase "a mile wide and an inch deep"? Because it applies very well. There is also a very easy way for them to overcome this problem ...
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 3, 2018 7:49:45 GMT
(No, that is not inviting any dissection of how well-written DAI's romances are; it's just a general observation.) In any case, such discussions usually revolve around whether the person subjectively likes said romance, not an objective look at its quality.
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Post by Verfallen on Jan 3, 2018 7:51:46 GMT
But, but... Dorian x Cadash. Not my cup of tea. I like giving Dorian pretty men. Call me shallow, but I like to romance him with someone at least as pretty as he is. Personally I'm partial to Dorian x mage!Trevelyan.
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Post by sageoflife on Jan 3, 2018 7:52:12 GMT
Oh, really, you just called me a village idiot, but you want to talk about people not having arguments? You want to talk about blatant strawmen when you are arguing that romances are decreasing? Did I? Did you want a tissue? I'm not arguing that romances are decreasing, I'm arguing that player choice is decreasing overall and people are heading to mods to overcome that. It's what these sorts of games promise, choice and consequence. Except they then enter the game and experience very little choice and very little consequence. But I will take up the mantle of the argument you thrust upon me, even though I wasn't actually arguing it. You take 6 romance choices away from one demographic and split it 2,2,2 and you go from a game that has great player choice for one demographic to one that has barely anything at all for all demographics. The ideal option would be to raise the number of romances for all demographics, which Bioware has not done. Ever heard of the phrase "a mile wide and an inch deep"? Because it applies very well. There is also a very easy way for them to overcome this problem ... Why would I need a tissue to point out your hypocrisy and falsehoods?
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Post by river82 on Jan 3, 2018 7:52:54 GMT
There are eight romance options in DAI, the statement that romance options is decreasing is objectively incorrect. You might wanna change that to "Straight male romance, the demographic to rule them all [and in the darkness bland them], is decreasing and is now more or less in line with other people and that's just not on" if you wanna not be disingenuous. Thank you for using Sage of Life's inaccurate paraphrasing of my post. Ironic how you talk about people being disingenuous. However please feel free to wander over to my latest reply which addresses your point
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 3, 2018 7:53:00 GMT
But, but... Dorian x Cadash. Not my cup of tea. I like giving Dorian pretty men. Call me shallow, but I like to romance him with someone at least as pretty as he is. He's always going on about muscular men so I had to give him one. Plus, I think dorfs are cute.
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Post by pavellaning on Jan 3, 2018 7:53:03 GMT
Not my cup of tea. I like giving Dorian pretty men. Call me shallow, but I like to romance him with someone at least as pretty as he is. Personally I'm partial to Dorian x mage!Trevelyan. Dorian x Templar!Warrior!Trevelyan is also fun. I did that in one of my playthroughs.
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Post by river82 on Jan 3, 2018 7:53:42 GMT
Why would I need a tissue to point out your hypocrisy and falsehoods? Oh so you're not crying then. That's good. Pity you still have nothing to say. Maybe you should go back to laughing?
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Post by pavellaning on Jan 3, 2018 7:54:42 GMT
Not my cup of tea. I like giving Dorian pretty men. Call me shallow, but I like to romance him with someone at least as pretty as he is. He's always going on about muscular men so I had to give him one. Plus, I think dorfs are cute. Ah, I can understand. Dwarfs are cute I admit. I'll romance my male dwarves with Iron Bull just because of the size difference and the fact that he'll have a hard time closing a certain rift.
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Post by sageoflife on Jan 3, 2018 7:54:45 GMT
Why would I need a tissue to point out your hypocrisy and falsehoods? Oh so you're not crying then. That's good. Pity you still have nothing to say. Maybe you should go back to laughing? Yes, laughing at you being a dishonest hypocrite with no salient arguments is a much better use of my time.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jan 3, 2018 7:55:07 GMT
There is also a very easy way for them to overcome this problem ... If you're referring to making the romances all bi, then you're mistaken. It was specifically stated that if they had done all bi romances for DAI then we would have gotten four, just as in DA2 (minus DLC Sebastian), which still leaves 2 options for everyone.
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Post by river82 on Jan 3, 2018 7:56:22 GMT
Though I may be accused of lacking proper gravitas on the subject-- technically, having two romance options is two steps away from having none at all. And I'd rather have two well-written options than six poorly executed ones. (No, that is not inviting any dissection of how well-written DAI's romances are; it's just a general observation.) I remember Erickson from Bioware panning Final Fantasy as not being an RPG. Why? Because the game lacked player choice. Let me clarify, this is a Bioware developer panning Final Fantasy's interactive movies (because that's what they were heading toward) for being too linear. You may like having fewer options and more expansion, but that way leads to a road Bioware themselves have laughed disdainfully at before
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 3, 2018 7:56:32 GMT
Your argument is flawed. It also contains a blatant strawman. I've noticed that when people have little to say or they rely overly on fallacies they tend to laugh a lot, like your classic village idiot. In any case having 2 romance options is one step away from having no options at all. Dialogue options decreasing, romance options decreasing, I remember the days when Bioware devs (Erikson) used to mock JRPGs for not being actual RPGs, oh how the world turns ... There are eight romance options in DAI, the statement that romance options is decreasing is objectively incorrect. You might wanna change that to "Straight male romance, the demographic to rule them all [and in the darkness bland them], is decreasing and is now more or less in line with other people and that's just not on" if you wanna not be disingenuous. Even that is inaccurate since straight male romances throughout the entire Dragon Age franchise have remained the same: 2 options per game.
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