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Post by vertigomez on Dec 29, 2017 6:03:09 GMT
Bioweenie needs to stick with BG, NWN, DA and ME. Anthem looks like another bland space game. I'm very over dystopian cyberpunk spacesuit games. I'm a simple girl with simple needs. Simple medieval fantasy needs.
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Post by rras1994 on Dec 29, 2017 11:30:09 GMT
Has Anthem been delayed again? Wonderful. Even longer until DA4 It's not been delayed, there's rumours from people. EA have slated it for their fiscal year 2019 which is until March 2019, so it only can have about 5 months delay if it needs it - and they told their investors it's coming out before March 2019 so it would mean they have to have a lot of confidence in that releases date.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 11:32:10 GMT
Bioweenie needs to stick with BG, NWN, DA and ME. Anthem looks like another bland space game. No, BioWARE needs a new franchise. Even though Anthem is not my cup of tea, I liked them far better when they did one or two games in one setting and then moved on to the next.
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Post by vometia on Dec 29, 2017 11:42:07 GMT
No, BioWARE needs a new franchise. Even though Anthem is not my cup of tea, I liked them far better when they did one or two games in one setting and then moved on to the next. I'm a bit torn. I like the familiar and I think DA still has a lot of mileage left in it, but it's really sad when a franchise gets to the flogging-a-dead-horse point. I think TES has got to that point, for instance, and as fangirly as I was (and still am) about Morrowind and Oblivion I honestly wouldn't be that bothered if we never see a TES6.
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Post by Fredward on Dec 29, 2017 11:59:51 GMT
I for one am really missing the ability to throw fireballs from a first person perspective so I'd like another TES game. There are also the rumors that one of the new IPs they're working on is ASoIaF which would certainly be... something.
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Post by warden on Dec 29, 2017 13:05:12 GMT
you will have to forget about that, as the cancer engine frostbite is not meant for rpg elements and much less for mods. yeah the modding community somehow managed to do something, but compared to other games or just DA2 and DAO, it's a completely shit, the only thing they can do is retextures and replace some things (in this case hair or swap armor models) for anothers, but you are not adding anything new and you are not changing anything really. Hell even you have to deactivate the "mods" in the dlc areas cause the game just crashes or gets an infinite loading screen. so don't expect anything special for next instalments, as they will continue with that engine, and moders will not do much. That won't stop me asking. I would like mods, open exploration, and pausable stat-driven combat. yeah i would like mods too, they are very fun.
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Post by copper on Dec 29, 2017 16:15:55 GMT
No, BioWARE needs a new franchise. Even though Anthem is not my cup of tea, I liked them far better when they did one or two games in one setting and then moved on to the next. I'm a bit torn. I like the familiar and I think DA still has a lot of mileage left in it, but it's really sad when a franchise gets to the flogging-a-dead-horse point. I think TES has got to that point, for instance, and as fangirly as I was (and still am) about Morrowind and Oblivion I honestly wouldn't be that bothered if we never see a TES6. I kinda agree for TES. I enjoyed all three of the recent single player games (Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim) but Skyrim is definitely a different style than the first two, both in gameplay and storytelling. Even if there is a TES6 at some point I'm not sure if I'd buy it or not. Mass Effect is another one for me. While the trilogy had its issues, its story felt very much wrapped up by the end. While I'm sure they could have developed Andromeda better than they apparently did, I also think there's just nothing further in the mass effect universe that can measure up the same for fans. Having said that, I still haven't played Andromeda for myself yet so I may later change my mind on this.
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Post by vometia on Dec 29, 2017 16:32:28 GMT
I kinda agree for TES. I enjoyed all three of the recent single player games (Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim) but Skyrim is definitely a different style than the first two, both in gameplay and storytelling. Even if there is a TES6 at some point I'm not sure if I'd buy it or not. Mass Effect is another one for me. While the trilogy had its issues, its story felt very much wrapped up by the end. While I'm sure they could have developed Andromeda better than they apparently did, I also think there's just nothing further in the mass effect universe that can measure up the same for fans. Having said that, I still haven't played Andromeda for myself yet so I may later change my mind on this. Skyrim was a bit of a weird one for me. I can't say I disliked it because I spent hundreds of hours there and as much again modding it, but there was something a bit... I dunno, it's hard to place. I often describe it as charmless, though I don't know if that's totally fair: I did feel there was a distinctive element of "you done here yet? Please go back from whence you came", which somehow cut deeper than Morrowind's endless "outlander" and "we're watching you, scum": there was always a feeling that they were just ribbing you whereas the Skyrim nords were really serious. But it wasn't just that, there was nowhere I felt at home: Skyrim seemed devoid of a Balmora or a Chorrol, or even a Vivec or Imperial City or any of the other major towns: I didn't even feel like a tourist in Skyrim, I felt like I was in any of the towns I've been to on business when it was the only reason I was there. I think a part of it is also that transitional period from the Oblivion era Gamebryo engine to them finding their feet again, and the characters in FO3, NV and Skyrim were often a bit dead-eyed, unreactive and not very appealing (at least to me), even compared to Oblivion's slightly pudding-faces and... well, let's face it, the designer in Morrowind wanted to do horses, not people, as I think she said. FO4 has seen a big turn-around though and it seems a lot more human than those wilderness years, so it's possible that a TES6 could feel like somewhere I belong again; but I do wonder if they've thrown in their lot with TESO, or if there's a risk it's retconned a lot of TES stuff (I don't know, since I don't do MP). Andromeda I think was a missed opportunity: of course it was going to be panned after the ME3 debacle, at least from certain quarters, but it seems like they'd resigned themselves to that as an inevitability and not really bothered to try to realise its full potential or market it properly. I enjoyed it as a game but was somewhat frustrated that what was good could have been great with a bit more effort and commitment, but they'd given in to the criticism almost as if it was the expected outcome. But because of the ME3 ending and the rather lacklustre approach to Andromeda I think that it would require a lot of guts to take things further, and that's something EA has never really shown.
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Post by Gilli on Dec 29, 2017 17:10:10 GMT
*sees a TES discussion* I feel like I'm in the minority who prefers Skyrim to Oblivion and Morrowind. That said, I got Skyrim LE in August 2016 (284 hours playtime so far), then I got Skyrim SE for free in October 2016 (708 hours playtime so far), which means I played it after several PTs in DAI. (Skyrim LE was my first TES game) I have 69 hours in Oblivion and 91 Minutes in Morrowind. I like Oblivion, but Morrowind makes me feel like I'm not talking to people, but reading a novel, when I ask them questions. By the end of a conversation I forgot what I a) asked and what the person answered. On the other hand, I looove ESO Yes, there are other players walking around, but it still feels very SP too me. Beside the Group Bosses/Group Dungeons and other group related stuff you can do everything alone. vometia as far as I know they haven't retconned anything in ESO, or I haven't noticed anything out of order yet. My main chara is a member of the Ebonheart Pact (Dunmer, Nord and Argonians), so she did many quests in Skyrim and one of my other charas is doing the Morrowind DLC quests atm. It is kinda sad (but it makes sense) that you can't marry any NPCs in ESO, cause I really love Naryu.
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Post by copper on Dec 29, 2017 17:37:50 GMT
*sees a TES discussion* I feel like I'm in the minority who prefers Skyrim to Oblivion and Morrowind. That said, I got Skyrim LE in August 2016 (284 hours playtime so far), then I got Skyrim SE for free in October 2016 (708 hours playtime so far), which means I played it after several PTs in DAI. (Skyrim LE was my first TES game) I have 69 hours in Oblivion and 91 Minutes in Morrowind. I like Oblivion, but Morrowind makes me feel like I'm not talking to people, but reading a novel, when I ask them questions. By the end of a conversation I forgot what I a) asked and what the person answered. On the other hand, I looove ESO Yes, there are other players walking around, but it still feels very SP too me. Beside the Group Bosses/Group Dungeons and other group related stuff you can do everything alone. vometia as far as I know they haven't retconned anything in ESO, or I haven't noticed anything out of order yet. My main chara is a member of the Ebonheart Pact (Dunmer, Nord and Argonians), so she did many quests in Skyrim and one of my other charas is doing the Morrowind DLC quests atm. It is kinda sad (but it makes sense) that you can't marry any NPCs in ESO, cause I really love Naryu. I love Skyrim too! It was my introduction to the series, and I prefer the gameplay in Skyrim to Oblivion. But when I compare all three and put aside the differences in gameplay, it doesn't have the same elder scrolls feel to me, and I can't put my finger on why exactly. I've played ESO. While I've gotten farther with it than other multiplayer games, it's just... so long I guess. I always lose steam pretty quickly when I play it. The single player games are long too, but there's a definite end to each one at some point. An mmo can go pretty much forever due to how they're structured. I did get far enough to meet Naryu though, and yeah she's definitely cool. Would romance her if possible
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Post by vometia on Dec 29, 2017 17:38:57 GMT
That's good to know. I'm just really nervous in MP games to the point where I won't play them at all. My experiences were TOR where I was mostly left alone, and a very brief stint in WoW where I immediately had some unwanted help when I was trying to find my feet and the guy was very insistently "and now I own you". But I'm glad they haven't reimagined the lore in TESO as I feared may be the case.
I'm slightly wary of overly criticising Skyrim because I remember all too well the Morrowind bores who still bemoan Oblivion as not being Morrowind II; but Skyrim really wasn't my cup of tea. Morrowind itself has a bit of a learning curve but once I got into it (which admittedly took a good couple of months of sulking) it was awesome. I think it helps to mod the shit out of it though, stuff like Better Heads, better animations and anything that adds some greenification to the wall-to-wall greige makes it feel a lot more inviting.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Dec 29, 2017 18:14:39 GMT
I would reserve that label for Fenris or Solas, to be honest. ... or Jacob. Poor Jacob, I felt sorry for him being so dull, but he was so dull.
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Post by Gilli on Dec 29, 2017 18:25:40 GMT
*sees a TES discussion* I feel like I'm in the minority who prefers Skyrim to Oblivion and Morrowind. That said, I got Skyrim LE in August 2016 (284 hours playtime so far), then I got Skyrim SE for free in October 2016 (708 hours playtime so far), which means I played it after several PTs in DAI. (Skyrim LE was my first TES game) I have 69 hours in Oblivion and 91 Minutes in Morrowind. I like Oblivion, but Morrowind makes me feel like I'm not talking to people, but reading a novel, when I ask them questions. By the end of a conversation I forgot what I a) asked and what the person answered. On the other hand, I looove ESO Yes, there are other players walking around, but it still feels very SP too me. Beside the Group Bosses/Group Dungeons and other group related stuff you can do everything alone. vometia as far as I know they haven't retconned anything in ESO, or I haven't noticed anything out of order yet. My main chara is a member of the Ebonheart Pact (Dunmer, Nord and Argonians), so she did many quests in Skyrim and one of my other charas is doing the Morrowind DLC quests atm. It is kinda sad (but it makes sense) that you can't marry any NPCs in ESO, cause I really love Naryu. I love Skyrim too! It was my introduction to the series, and I prefer the gameplay in Skyrim to Oblivion. But when I compare all three and put aside the differences in gameplay, it doesn't have the same elder scrolls feel to me, and I can't put my finger on why exactly. I've played ESO. While I've gotten farther with it than other multiplayer games, it's just... so long I guess. I always lose steam pretty quickly when I play it. The single player games are long too, but there's a definite end to each one at some point. An mmo can go pretty much forever due to how they're structured. I did get far enough to meet Naryu though, and yeah she's definitely cool. Would romance her if possible I agree that ESO is very long (I've finished the Ebonheart Pact story line with my main chara and should actually be in Coldharbour, but got distracted by side quests ) I kinda worked against that by having four charas. So when I'm bored I can just switch to a different one. And as each of them is in a different faction, or at least different place, it always feels like playing a "new" game. Right? That she keeps flirting with you doesn't help at all. That's good to know. I'm just really nervous in MP games to the point where I won't play them at all. My experiences were TOR where I was mostly left alone, and a very brief stint in WoW where I immediately had some unwanted help when I was trying to find my feet and the guy was very insistently "and now I own you". But I'm glad they haven't reimagined the lore in TESO as I feared may be the case. I'm slightly wary of overly criticising Skyrim because I remember all too well the Morrowind bores who still bemoan Oblivion as not being Morrowind II; but Skyrim really wasn't my cup of tea. Morrowind itself has a bit of a learning curve but once I got into it (which admittedly took a good couple of months of sulking) it was awesome. I think it helps to mod the shit out of it though, stuff like Better Heads, better animations and anything that adds some greenification to the wall-to-wall greige makes it feel a lot more inviting. I get that (I have social anxiety), tho I kinda got over that nervousness in MP games by playing alot of DAIMP. (I know it's not the same as playing an MMO, but it was a good "training" place) And in the worst case, I just close the chat window and go into a Closed Dungeon (it's only you and your quest) I'm playing SWTOR too, but I just prefer medieval fantasy to sci-fi and I also don't really care about Star Wars. I also have the same problem in SWTOR, as I did in ME1 and ME2. I'm not really looking at the dialogue choices, I'm just going Light Side choice, Light Side choice/ Paragon, Paragon, etc. It's not just because I prefer playing "good" charas, most of the Dark Side/Renegade choices are just sooo rude and angry. <-- That's something where I totally prefer MEA's dialogue choices with the tone choices, instead of just good/neutral/negative. (I don't want to call Renegade/Dark Side choices bad, they just feel very negative) I like Oblivion, but I have to say I prefer the Perk system in Skyrim to the one in Oblivion. It may be easier, but I don't care for stats. Before I played DAO (my first western RPG) in 2014, I've only played JRPGs (Final Fantasy, Star Ocean, the Tales series) there stats just happen naturally and I prefer that way. (there are exceptions of course) I might reinstall Morrowind again (with mods) one day, but at the moment I'm too busy playing ESO and PoE. (boughtt it myself for Christmas )
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Post by vometia on Dec 29, 2017 18:41:58 GMT
I like Oblivion, but I have to say I prefer the Perk system in Skyrim to the one in Oblivion. It may be easier, but I don't care for stats. Before I played DAO (my first western RPG) in 2014, I've only played JRPGs (Final Fantasy, Star Ocean, the Tales series) there stats just happen naturally and I prefer that way. (there are exceptions of course) I might reinstall Morrowind again (with mods) one day, but at the moment I'm too busy playing ESO and PoE. (boughtt it myself for Christmas ) I love Oblivion, but I think it really does seriously benefit from having its levelling, stats and stuff overhauled. For me, FCOM is a must as it makes enemy encounters and loot a lot more interesting, and I also installed a couple of progression mods (I forget which offhand) which made the whole experience feel a lot more natural and moved it away from the temptation to try to artificially improve one's stats (I hasten to add I only did the "power gaming" thing for a few hours, which is probably the least fun I've ever had while gaming, but knowing that efficient levelling needed a deliberately contrary approach was frustrating). And yeah, I can't make myself be an arse when I'm gaming: I guess maybe my roleplaying ability isn't all that great, but making the darker or at least more edgy choice doesn't do anything for me.
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 29, 2017 18:50:15 GMT
Morrowind and Skyrim are a better immersive roleplaying experience for me, while Oblivion is more of a comfy, fun game that you can't really take seriously. It's mostly the cartooney artstyle of Oblivion that really fucks with me, although I love it (for all the wrong reasons).
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Post by Gilli on Dec 29, 2017 19:16:28 GMT
I like Oblivion, but I have to say I prefer the Perk system in Skyrim to the one in Oblivion. It may be easier, but I don't care for stats. Before I played DAO (my first western RPG) in 2014, I've only played JRPGs (Final Fantasy, Star Ocean, the Tales series) there stats just happen naturally and I prefer that way. (there are exceptions of course) I might reinstall Morrowind again (with mods) one day, but at the moment I'm too busy playing ESO and PoE. (boughtt it myself for Christmas ) I love Oblivion, but I think it really does seriously benefit from having its levelling, stats and stuff overhauled. For me, FCOM is a must as it makes enemy encounters and loot a lot more interesting, and I also installed a couple of progression mods (I forget which offhand) which made the whole experience feel a lot more natural and moved it away from the temptation to try to artificially improve one's stats (I hasten to add I only did the "power gaming" thing for a few hours, which is probably the least fun I've ever had while gaming, but knowing that efficient levelling needed a deliberately contrary approach was frustrating). And yeah, I can't make myself be an arse when I'm gaming: I guess maybe my roleplaying ability isn't all that great, but making the darker or at least more edgy choice doesn't do anything for me. Yeah, I think I'll look into Oblivion mods too, when I'll install it again. Mhm, I had no problems with my favorite Inquisitor, but while he's an ass, he's mostly just snarky (goes along very well with his boyfriend Dorian) I think the worst he did, was letting Sera beat up that one guy in Verchiel (what? I wanted to know what happens and he would've let her do it ) and telling Celene, Gaspard and Briala "You work for me now." (so sad OBS decided to troll me and didn't record that scene. )
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 29, 2017 22:13:06 GMT
Skyrim was a bit of a weird one for me. I can't say I disliked it because I spent hundreds of hours there and as much again modding it, but there was something a bit... I dunno, it's hard to place. I often describe it as charmless, though I don't know if that's totally fair The story is lackluster, relatively speaking, taken as a whole. Maybe that's what you found charmless/souless? It had it's good moments -- I particularly liked the Esbern and akaviri mythology part, and meeting Parthurnaax -- but ultimately boils down to another Chosen One Has To Save The World story. Meh. The civil war wasn't any better, pretty bland. Both the Brotherhood and Thieves Guild faction stories were way, way better than the main story, imho. But what gives Skyrim longevity -- besides great modding support -- is that it's an interesting sandbox by design. You can ignore the main story if you want and just do the civil war, or the faction stories, or just goof around hunting monsters or rolling apples down mountain sides. Totally up to you what you do with it. I highly recommend doing a run where you do not discover that you are the Dragonborn. Just skip Bleak Falls Barrow and dragons never appear in the world -- apart from the prologue. Then you can run around doing things without worrying about dragons dive bombing you. Go be a bandit king and raid all the cities and towns. Spend all your time with waterbreathing potion and explore the depths. See if you can pickpocket one hundred fools without getting caught. Sky-rim is the limit, har har.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 29, 2017 22:21:33 GMT
I highly recommend doing a run where you do not discover that you are the Dragonborn. Sadly, a consequence of this is that you can't buy Breezehome, the most convenient/central home. In my most recent play, I used the Alternate Start mod for the very first time and delayed starting the main quest for quite a bit. It was nice having that freedom, but I eventually began to feel directionless. If you're roleplaying a "good" character, you also miss out on some stuff like the more evil Daedric quests and the Brotherhood and Theives Guild quest lines. I destroyed the Dark Brotherhood, but that was just a short bit. Nothing to be done about the Thieves Guild, so I just ignore them; I'd wipe them out as well if I could and wish there were a legit option to do so (read: not a mod).
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Post by vometia on Dec 29, 2017 22:34:39 GMT
Yeah, I find it hard to do the bad stuff, which is unfortunately some of the most interesting. It's a bit odd as I have a habit of either not completing the MQ or rushing it so I can do the fun stuff, but if that framework isn't there I feel a bit lost and directionless. I know it's entirely psychological, but that's how it is.
I think a lot of it is just that there doesn't seem to be a great deal of meaningful interaction with other characters: again, it's probably subjective, but in the other TES games, the Fallouts and various other things it feels like I'm more involved, but Skyrim sort of feels like that pub that goes quiet when you enter and nobody resumes talking until you leave again.
But yeah, the whole chosen one, centre of every plot-line, I wish they wouldn't do that: it just makes the world seem a much smaller place. I guess it must be popular as most games have that as a key element, and I can't single out Skyrim there, but meh.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 29, 2017 23:26:40 GMT
I think a lot of it is just that there doesn't seem to be a great deal of meaningful interaction with other characters This is certainly true. Even some characters that are a bit more fleshed out, like the Companion followers, don't have any content outside of that minimal area. It's even worse if you decide to take around a hireling. Their only personality is gleaned from the occasional world or dungeon banter. My recent Skyrim play, where I did a marriage for the first time, really made me miss Bioware relationships.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 29, 2017 23:43:38 GMT
The only thing I remember about Oblivion is joining the Dark Brotherhood and killing a lot of people.
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Post by phoray on Dec 29, 2017 23:46:02 GMT
Another terrible OP turned general discussion thread
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 29, 2017 23:47:57 GMT
Another terrible OP turned general discussion thread The way it should be. Like the phoenix, we rise from the ashes of this dumpster fire.
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Post by Gilli on Dec 30, 2017 0:13:40 GMT
What I wanted to add in one of my lasts posts, but forgot, was that I remade my first Warden in ESO. (she's an OC I made in 2006 and since I've played DAO I like to reuse her in other RPGs, if they let me create a chara. ) Kita in DAO and in ESO, where she looks much closer to how I imagine her. (excluding the horns, but she's a Bosmer and I just wanted a Bosmer with horns )
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Post by thedarkprince on Dec 30, 2017 0:27:37 GMT
Cass was alright but not the type I would date. Male options did suck. But playing female I get decent choices Male options? Straight guys had Cassandra, that was basically it. Josie was Okay, But also bi. Both being human also killed any chance for romancing another race, since Gaider is against dwarf romance and didn't add a female qunari because he didn't want them to be just eye candy. And the only female elf was into girls only. Not really a ton of options.
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