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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 22, 2017 14:25:36 GMT
image/s in op reportedly borked, will fix today or tomorrow pending a chance from work : ] sorry bout that Edit: Also noticed some broken links. will check over whole op and update it 😊 Edit 2:- Broken image fixed (thanks for bringin it to my attention NeverlandHunter ) - out of date links updated (I caused those myself when I changed urls lol wups) - i forgot I wrote all that stuff about our forum migration LOL wew my sense of humor is lame- some of the OP could probably use an update (informational as opposed to purely functional) in terms of current information, like the FAQ-style parts... I'll maybe see about that in the next couple days, got some vacation time comin up from both jobs. That was the funniest thing ever created by elven hands! It still makes me laugh to read it There could have been no greater greeting for those arriving to their new home after such a long and despair filled journey. Brought tears to the eyes, you know! And I didn't mean to give you a bunch of work!
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Post by ellanathehamster on Aug 22, 2017 15:14:44 GMT
More random questions! There have been discussions about only Lavellan being able to romance Solas. I think the general consensus for those that are okay with that, is it being due to a vague background connection, yada, yada, elf-y stuff. Well, my questions are this: If the Inquisitor was an elf, but not a Dalish, do you think she would be able to woo Solas like Lavellan did? (This question only works for people who are accepting of Solas only being open to Lavellan.) And If your Lavellan wasn't the Inquisitor, would Solas still have fallen in love with her? Say she was a companion instead of the leader. Certain aspects about their relationship would change and Lavellan might not have the same opportunities as the Inquisitor. Solas's initial interest in Lavellan was his mark, too, and (my speculation) her ability to use his power for order and good. 1.Yes, absolutely. I don't think he would dismiss city elf Lavellan- maybe, in some perspective, he would even get along easier with city elf than with really hardcore dalish( he usually disapprove is you are too "dalish"). The only reason he can't be romanced by city elfs cause game doesn't give us an option to play as one. So, in another universe where we can pick to play either as dalish or city elf, I believe we could start romance with Solas regardless of what background our girl has. Both will be lore friendly. (Weeks said in one of his interview, that the reason why Solas'es romance is so limited is because with only female elf he can let his guard down enough to pursue romantic relationship. And let's not forget that solely being an elf does not guarantee that Solas will fall for you, you have to have specific mindset and do specific things for him to like you. 2. I think so. Of course, if she is not Inquisitor, she will have less chances to interact with Solas in the first place. But I still think it's possible- maybe in some way it will be easier for both, since duty won't bound her and mark won't kill her in a few years. So she could follow Solas, maybe? Dunno. But I believe that while it is true, that mark originally was only think that interested Solas in Inquisitor, he didn't fall in love with her because of it. On balcony scene he even asks did she think that mark changed her spirit in any way? And regardless of dialogue option you'll choose, you won't confirm that yes, mark alerted her spirit. Plus, he still visits romanced Lavellan in her sleep after she lost the Anchor.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 23, 2017 2:32:13 GMT
Holy fricking sugar daddy! That's awesome! I never would have discovered it on my own. Were there any companion reactions? I kinda skipped ahead because my phone hates tumblr.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 23, 2017 2:35:07 GMT
Holy fricking sugar daddy! That's awesome! I never would have discovered it on my own. Were there any companion reactions? I kinda skipped ahead because my phone hates tumblr. I don't know - it's not my video! But now I kind of want to load up my saved games and do this to find out. I wouldn't steal from Solas, though... pretty sure my Lavellan has about 100,000 gold by the end of Trespasser herself, and what the heck is a clanless Dalish elf without an army to support going to do with that much money? (Ok, ok, she'd use it to fund the shadow Inquisition's efforts to find Solas and knock some sense into him, but still...)
ETA: Also, I did NOT take the get rich quick diplomatic perks, and I did buy the Mystery Box at the shop in Orlais... still rolling in cash. I just didn't spend it on weapons and equipment, nor did I buy ALL of the collectible furniture for Skyhold - just the ones I would actually use.)
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 23, 2017 2:55:51 GMT
I'm willing to risk a theory that this is merely his petty cash. Who knows how many vaults he owns or knows about, especially now, with eluvian network open; many of which likely leading to ruins that haven't been plundered. And yeah, I grabbed the cash in a few of my PTs, for the sake of completion Nevermind that at the end of Trespasser my Inkies usually have enough gold to buy Val Royeaux and paint whole city purple.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 23, 2017 3:19:26 GMT
Well, and it's not like Solas didn't travel with my Lavellan for a year and witness her picking locks left, right, and centre. Still, she did not do the Spoils of Desecration quest and she did do the rituals at Mythal's Temple, so I think she probably wouldn't steal from the forgotten mountain ruins where Fen'Harel seems to have had a stronghold. over She did complete the puzzles to get the "You're Fen'Harel" ending 'cause she's clever so she might have already figured out who Solas was by the time she found the vault, anyway. So yeah, not touching it. Also I just checked - just after fighting Ataashi, Faolchu Ban had over 113,000 gold. ^-^
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 23, 2017 3:30:07 GMT
Well, and it's not like Solas didn't travel with my Lavellan for a year and witness her picking locks left, right, and centre. Still, she did not do the Spoils of Desecration quest and she did do the rituals at Mythal's Temple, so I think she probably wouldn't steal from the forgotten mountain ruins where Fen'Harel seems to have had a stronghold. over She did complete the puzzles to get the "You're Fen'Harel" ending 'cause she's clever so she might have already figured out who Solas was by the time she found the vault, anyway. So yeah, not touching it. Also I just checked - just after fighting Ataashi, Faolchu Ban had over 113,000 gold. ^-^ I do find it amusing that the device to lead us to the clue in his Sanctuary is the golden halla I know they simply used hallas in order for the player to notice that there's something there, but I do have to wonder whether it's more than just a design decision and we actually had Hanal'ghilan guide us in-story to the thing that let us figure out the truth
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Post by Elessara on Aug 23, 2017 10:59:05 GMT
I think I did once maybe? But some of my characters had over 500k, even after buying pretty much everything for Skyhold and most of the schematics I could find (before the Golden Nug). There was a thing with the Descent DLC where the merchant there would pay a lot more money than anyone else for vendor trash. I had not actually realised this, I simply thought the DLC was giving a lot of gold for some reason. Then they fixed it and I was like, "Oh, that was a bug. Darn it."
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 23, 2017 14:36:20 GMT
I think I did once maybe? But some of my characters had over 500k, even after buying pretty much everything for Skyhold and most of the schematics I could find (before the Golden Nug). There was a thing with the Descent DLC where the merchant there would pay a lot more money than anyone else for vendor trash. I had not actually realised this, I simply thought the DLC was giving a lot of gold for some reason. Then they fixed it and I was like, "Oh, that was a bug. Darn it." At this point, when playing with mods, it's easy to end up with too much money. I remember one of mods I installed paid even 100k for silly trinkets I sold, lol.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 24, 2017 2:52:11 GMT
I've never used mods for my DA games! Too worried about messing things up. I used to mod skins for The Sims, though, many moons ago.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 24, 2017 3:01:56 GMT
I've never used mods for my DA games! Too worried about messing things up. I used to mod skins for The Sims, though, many moons ago. Yea, that's the risk with mods - but after so many runs I'd go crazy if I didn't modify anything.
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Post by Elessara on Aug 24, 2017 11:35:50 GMT
I've never used mods for my DA games! Too worried about messing things up. I used to mod skins for The Sims, though, many moons ago. I've only used mods in DAO ... and was severely disappointed with most of them. The item mods were fine, the "story" mods were the terrible ones. DA2 didn't seem worth the effort to mod and in the beginning DAI was difficult so I just never bothered. And most of the time, yeah I'm too concerned it'll mess up my games/saves.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 24, 2017 12:43:20 GMT
My phone is having issues liking your post, but they were some cool pics
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 24, 2017 17:33:54 GMT
I've never used mods for my DA games! Too worried about messing things up. I used to mod skins for The Sims, though, many moons ago. I've only used mods in DAO ... and was severely disappointed with most of them. The item mods were fine, the "story" mods were the terrible ones. DA2 didn't seem worth the effort to mod and in the beginning DAI was difficult so I just never bothered. And most of the time, yeah I'm too concerned it'll mess up my games/saves. The mods in DAO can mess up the game more, just because they can do more. Different, older engine and all. I remember when I wanted to play DAO for the first time - found a list of recommended mods and after a bit of time spent in tutorials I fired the game and decided to start with all origin stories. It was... an amusing experience Plainly because there were some conflicts between mods and it resulted in unintended hilarity. I started with mage origin - the Fade section went without a hitch, but when my char woke up in bed she was approached by Jowan I was like "okay... am I still in the Fade?". I was confused, because Jowan had no head...The Dalish origin takes the cake though - Merril showed up with NO CLOTHES. I laughed so hard I had problem finishing the storyline. Ultimately I had to scrap my playthrough and re-install the game, because - while the mods didn't result with gameplay bugs - all those headless NPCs and other visual bugs just took me out of the story.
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Post by roselavellan on Aug 24, 2017 20:31:06 GMT
I can't play without mods, honestly. I need my clothing/texture and hair mods, and various other mods that make crafting supplies less painful to collect. I also have the one that lets you run crying to Cullen after Solas, but I've never been able to use it comfortably; my Lavellan's heart belongs to Solas and no one else.
I would say that one of my DA wishes (aside from a good resolution for Solavellan) is for Bioware to open their games up to modding. It has really increased the replayability of Skyrim, so I don't understand Bioware's (or perhaps it's EA's) opposition to it.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 24, 2017 20:40:10 GMT
I can't play without mods, honestly. I need my clothing/texture and hair mods, and various other mods that make crafting supplies less painful to collect. I also have the one that lets you run crying to Cullen after Solas, but I've never been able to use it comfortably; my Lavellan's heart belongs to Solas and no one else. I would say that one of my DA wishes (aside from a good resolution for Solavellan) is for Bioware to open their games up to modding. It has really increased the replayability of Skyrim, so I don't understand Bioware's (or perhaps it's EA's) opposition to it. It's a different engine, for one and that comes with different coding, challenges as well as licenses. And TES engine is specifically crafted to be moddable (it's actually very old and the reason why Fallout4 looked pretty dated btw. They really need a new engine at this point, but creating a new one that has such flexibility will take years and may be the reason why we haven't heard of any new TES title since Skyrim). The third is that TES and DA games just aren't the same. One is a sandbox where you can even skip main quest, the other has a very well-defined story that everything else is an extension of. I'm fairly sure messing with that part of code that keeps it all together could prove fatal. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't like for the game to be at least more moddable than it is, and the BW devs have expressed interest with opening to mods. But it's probably not something that is easy to do.
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Post by Solas on Aug 24, 2017 20:58:43 GMT
so before this I hadn't thought about this particular choice too hard when it came to my Inquisitor, I mean I had a fair inkling of what she would be inclined to do, but I also kind of had this vague unconscious notion that if I thought about it there would be a way to make things 'fit'. with the next DA game so far off, when Trespasser was released I didn't feel a pressing urge to make my 'final decisions' about choices I wasn't sure about from DA:I, to shore up my canon in preparation, etc. I think with the ME:A dlc announcement my brain is shifting back into DA gear. hence - I replayed Trespasser for the first time in ages today, with my canonquiz (a Solasmancer), and played the final conversation out a bunch of times with the different options and responses.. (here's me, the player, who thinks Solas is flawed but enjoys him as a character, and me the fluffernut, that just wants all my OCs and the friends/people they care about to be happy). and I'm like :D8: because no matter how I play it out with her, no matter what angles I try to look at it from, no matter what olympic-level gymnastics twisting I try, I don't think there's a way I can make Try To Redeem Solas fit her character. there's no way I can see, no way of twisting or cutting down or stretching or reframing, to justify it within the parameters of her traits and views. I think I've concluded that not only would it be an OOC move for her, it would be completely antithetical to who she is - like irreconcilable? its a square peg in a round hole, even with her character development arc. consequently I am cursing myself and like, deeply regretting my character-building choices DA4 is going to be a painful feelsfest regardless but especially so cuz of this for me. :sob: :sob: time to make a new, different secondary Solasmancer so I can comfort myself with the alternate universe series of events in a subsequent playthrough.. :poop:
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 24, 2017 21:11:17 GMT
Welp, I guess it's a good thing I keep my main playthrough open-ended. I like knowing the complete story to make right choices for my chars (I know it sounds backwards in this case, but eh), and since the story of Inquisitor doesn't yet seem complete...
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Post by roselavellan on Aug 24, 2017 21:20:05 GMT
That doesn't mean that I wouldn't like for the game to be at least more moddable than it is, and the BW devs have expressed interest with opening to mods. But it's probably not something that is easy to do. If it's a technical limitation and not due to management decision, and the devs are actually open to mods, that's good news. Still, I won't get too ambitious, if we even get the Black Emporium early, that would be an improvement from DAI.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 24, 2017 21:31:01 GMT
That doesn't mean that I wouldn't like for the game to be at least more moddable than it is, and the BW devs have expressed interest with opening to mods. But it's probably not something that is easy to do. If it's a technical limitation and not due to management decision, and the devs are actually open to mods, that's good news. Still, I won't get too ambitious, if we even get the Black Emporium early, that would be an improvement from DAI. I wouldn't be surprised if ability to change or save appearance would be in the game either from the start or show up soon afterwards - even MEA's limited CC had save option available from the beginning and appearance change followed in patch soon after. From what I know The Black Emporium took so long primarily because they've had some technical problems to tackle, but that was likely the result of working on still-not-so-familiar engine; an issue they probably won't have at this point.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 24, 2017 23:48:55 GMT
so before this I hadn't thought about this particular choice too hard when it came to my Inquisitor, I mean I had a fair inkling of what she would be inclined to do, but I also kind of had this vague unconscious notion that if I thought about it there would be a way to make things 'fit'. with the next DA game so far off, when Trespasser was released I didn't feel a pressing urge to make my 'final decisions' about choices I wasn't sure about from DA:I, to shore up my canon in preparation, etc. I think with the ME:A dlc announcement my brain is shifting back into DA gear. hence - I replayed Trespasser for the first time in ages today, with my canonquiz (a Solasmancer), and played the final conversation out a bunch of times with the different options and responses.. (here's me, the player, who thinks Solas is flawed but enjoys him as a character, and me the fluffernut, that just wants all my OCs and the friends/people they care about to be happy). and I'm like :D8: because no matter how I play it out with her, no matter what angles I try to look at it from, no matter what olympic-level gymnastics twisting I try, I don't think there's a way I can make Try To Redeem Solas fit her character. there's no way I can see, no way of twisting or cutting down or stretching or reframing, to justify it within the parameters of her traits and views. I think I've concluded that not only would it be an OOC move for her, it would be completely antithetical to who she is - like irreconcilable? its a square peg in a round hole, even with her character development arc. consequently I am cursing myself and like, deeply regretting my character-building choices DA4 is going to be a painful feelsfest regardless but especially so cuz of this for me. :sob: :sob: time to make a new, different secondary Solasmancer so I can comfort myself with the alternate universe series of events in a subsequent playthrough.. :poop: Aw, I'm sorry darn characters with minds of their own!
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 24, 2017 23:49:44 GMT
so before this I hadn't thought about this particular choice too hard when it came to my Inquisitor, I mean I had a fair inkling of what she would be inclined to do, but I also kind of had this vague unconscious notion that if I thought about it there would be a way to make things 'fit'. with the next DA game so far off, when Trespasser was released I didn't feel a pressing urge to make my 'final decisions' about choices I wasn't sure about from DA:I, to shore up my canon in preparation, etc. I think with the ME:A dlc announcement my brain is shifting back into DA gear. hence - I replayed Trespasser for the first time in ages today, with my canonquiz (a Solasmancer), and played the final conversation out a bunch of times with the different options and responses.. (here's me, the player, who thinks Solas is flawed but enjoys him as a character, and me the fluffernut, that just wants all my OCs and the friends/people they care about to be happy). and I'm like :D8: because no matter how I play it out with her, no matter what angles I try to look at it from, no matter what olympic-level gymnastics twisting I try, I don't think there's a way I can make Try To Redeem Solas fit her character. there's no way I can see, no way of twisting or cutting down or stretching or reframing, to justify it within the parameters of her traits and views. I think I've concluded that not only would it be an OOC move for her, it would be completely antithetical to who she is - like irreconcilable? its a square peg in a round hole, even with her character development arc. consequently I am cursing myself and like, deeply regretting my character-building choices DA4 is going to be a painful feelsfest regardless but especially so cuz of this for me. :sob: :sob: time to make a new, different secondary Solasmancer so I can comfort myself with the alternate universe series of events in a subsequent playthrough.. :poop: Fortunately my Inquisitor was incredibly merciful, so it is totally in character for her to want to give Solas the same benefit of the doubt as she gave all the Skyhold prisoners (including Thom Rainier). Second chance for you! Second chance for you. And you! And you! And you! If everyone has spirits and we had any control over our Inquisitors's spirits hers would almost certainly be a spirit of hope.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Aug 25, 2017 0:10:21 GMT
so before this I hadn't thought about this particular choice too hard when it came to my Inquisitor, I mean I had a fair inkling of what she would be inclined to do, but I also kind of had this vague unconscious notion that if I thought about it there would be a way to make things 'fit'. with the next DA game so far off, when Trespasser was released I didn't feel a pressing urge to make my 'final decisions' about choices I wasn't sure about from DA:I, to shore up my canon in preparation, etc. I think with the ME:A dlc announcement my brain is shifting back into DA gear. hence - I replayed Trespasser for the first time in ages today, with my canonquiz (a Solasmancer), and played the final conversation out a bunch of times with the different options and responses.. (here's me, the player, who thinks Solas is flawed but enjoys him as a character, and me the fluffernut, that just wants all my OCs and the friends/people they care about to be happy). and I'm like :D8: because no matter how I play it out with her, no matter what angles I try to look at it from, no matter what olympic-level gymnastics twisting I try, I don't think there's a way I can make Try To Redeem Solas fit her character. there's no way I can see, no way of twisting or cutting down or stretching or reframing, to justify it within the parameters of her traits and views. I think I've concluded that not only would it be an OOC move for her, it would be completely antithetical to who she is - like irreconcilable? its a square peg in a round hole, even with her character development arc. consequently I am cursing myself and like, deeply regretting my character-building choices DA4 is going to be a painful feelsfest regardless but especially so cuz of this for me. :sob: :sob: time to make a new, different secondary Solasmancer so I can comfort myself with the alternate universe series of events in a subsequent playthrough.. :poop: Fortunately my Inquisitor was incredibly merciful, so it is totally in character for her to want to give Solas the same benefit of the doubt as she gave all the Skyhold prisoners (including Thom Rainier). Second chance for you! Second chance for you. And you! And you! And you! If everyone has spirits and we had any control over our Inquisitors's spirits hers would almost certainly be a spirit of hope. That's a lot like how my Lavellan was, but by the time Trespasser came around she was a little worn and the revelations in Trespasser definitely got to her. Still, over all a hopeful spirit, but maybe she leans more to Perseverance now.
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