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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 18:23:57 GMT
Hmm. I kind of like that there's enough vagueness to the romance that fans can, for the most part, decide for themselves what went on, and make up their own story for those "between the lines bits" if they want. I don't want to say that I feel cheated that there wasn't an explicit scene, because I get that the whole informed consent thing is important to Solas. Still, I am glad that there is suggestive material there, room for 'what if', for those Lavellans who just want some elf booty, don't care about his tragic backstory and hangups. I have to admit, after the Fade kiss in Haven, I thought Solas wanted to bang Lavellan right there in one of the dream beds in the dream village. Obviously, that isn't what everyone got out of it. :lmfao: Originally, being spoiled on who he was, I played the game just to see what kind of disaster a Fen'Harel/Dalish elf romance would be. I was not disappointed at all. Solas' romance path definitely gave me great amounts of sexual frustration inspiration, for writing smut and angst into the various fanfics involving him I've done for DA. I'm pretty sure that Weekes has asserted (don't have a link, atm) in the past that Solas is heterosexual, when clarifying why he was not written bisexual, but always insists we are allowed to interpret the romance the way we want as long as it's super sad and heartbreaking :sob:.
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Post by uirebhiril on Sept 29, 2017 18:57:42 GMT
Hmm. I kind of like that there's enough vagueness to the romance that fans can, for the most part, decide for themselves what went on, and make up their own story for those "between the lines bits" if they want. I think that's what I most appreciated about how the Solas romance was handled. It was a mindful way to approach a situation in which the opinion on a character was going to be distinctly divided. Avoiding anything overtly sexual allowed the player a choice on how their character would approach the romance and revelation. Unlike, say, Blackwall. I'm glad they've taken to leaving some romances ambiguous and don't get why some people want to force the "they did/didn't" thing. Leave it up to each person to decide, because unless there's naked butts and lots of rolling around on the screen I think we're good on making it up for ourselves what they did behind closed doors.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 29, 2017 19:11:06 GMT
Hmm. I kind of like that there's enough vagueness to the romance that fans can, for the most part, decide for themselves what went on, and make up their own story for those "between the lines bits" if they want. I think that's what I most appreciated about how the Solas romance was handled. It was a mindful way to approach a situation in which the opinion on a character was going to be distinctly divided. Avoiding anything overtly sexual allowed the player a choice on how their character would approach the romance and revelation. Unlike, say, Blackwall. I'm glad they've taken to leaving some romances ambiguous and don't get why some people want to force the "they did/didn't" thing. Leave it up to each person to decide, because unless there's naked butts and lots of rolling around on the screen I think we're good on making it up for ourselves what they did behind closed doors. I agree, though I do think there are instances where the romance should or should not be sexual rather than left ambiguous if it fits the character. For example romances that are non-sexual because either it is part of the character's personality or if say they are an ace spectrum character(Patrick Weekes did recently say they are considering making ace/demi characters/romances). Likewise there are some cases where romances need sex, like if that is part of the character's personality or it is part of the plot(for example Morrigan with the OGB).
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Post by uirebhiril on Sept 29, 2017 20:13:04 GMT
I'm glad they've taken to leaving some romances ambiguous and don't get why some people want to force the "they did/didn't" thing. Leave it up to each person to decide, because unless there's naked butts and lots of rolling around on the screen I think we're good on making it up for ourselves what they did behind closed doors. I agree, though I do think there are instances where the romance should or should not be sexual rather than left ambiguous if it fits the character. Yes, but I meant the did/didn't thing from fans, not from the story itself. There are those that want to claim Solas and Lavellan absolutely were sexual, no matter what, no matter how you played your character, and others that claim they absolutely were not, no matter what, and you're wrong for stating your Lavellan and Solas had sex. Neither are correct. It's up to each player, per Weekes, to decide how it went down. It will be nice to have a truly asexual companion one day, but ambiguous really did work best for a character like Solas.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 29, 2017 20:52:28 GMT
I agree, though I do think there are instances where the romance should or should not be sexual rather than left ambiguous if it fits the character. Yes, but I meant the did/didn't thing from fans, not from the story itself. There are those that want to claim Solas and Lavellan absolutely were sexual, no matter what, no matter how you played your character, and others that claim they absolutely were not, no matter what, and you're wrong for stating your Lavellan and Solas had sex. Neither are correct. It's up to each player, per Weekes, to decide how it went down. It will be nice to have a truly asexual companion one day, but ambiguous really did work best for a character like Solas. Oh, okay. I see what you mean now. Yeah I don't get that either. Sure I may see the romance going one way but I'm fine with people seeing it go another. As you said, it is up to the player. Yeah, I hope one day we get characters that are definitively of those orientations. So far the closest we have are a couple LIs whose writers have supported the interpretation of their characters being those orientations.
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Post by shinary on Sept 30, 2017 15:18:16 GMT
Yes, but I meant the did/didn't thing from fans, not from the story itself. There are those that want to claim Solas and Lavellan absolutely were sexual, no matter what, no matter how you played your character, and others that claim they absolutely were not, no matter what, and you're wrong for stating your Lavellan and Solas had sex. Neither are correct. It's up to each player, per Weekes, to decide how it went down. It will be nice to have a truly asexual companion one day, but ambiguous really did work best for a character like Solas. Oh, okay. I see what you mean now. Yeah I don't get that either. Sure I may see the romance going one way but I'm fine with people seeing it go another. As you said, it is up to the player. Yeah, I hope one day we get characters that are definitively of those orientations. So far the closest we have are a couple LIs whose writers have supported the interpretation of their characters being those orientations. I honestly never got how it could be interpreted as them having a physical relationship. Weekes might say he left it ambigious, but when Solas says "I did not! I would never lay with you under false pretenses." I have hard time seeing how it can mean anything but "I would never have sex with you, when you didn't know the truth." Solas is a sexual character and from other aspects of his personality, I would suspect an experienced one. Not to mention the legend with Andruil wanting him as his sexslave, more or less. (I'd love to hear the truth behind that story some time). I thought a lot of the flirt options were cringe worthy. I actually avoided those and the middle dialogue option for that precise reason. I actually felt like that made her more shy and reserved. (No fade-tongue mentioned or such).
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 30, 2017 15:53:30 GMT
Oh, okay. I see what you mean now. Yeah I don't get that either. Sure I may see the romance going one way but I'm fine with people seeing it go another. As you said, it is up to the player. Yeah, I hope one day we get characters that are definitively of those orientations. So far the closest we have are a couple LIs whose writers have supported the interpretation of their characters being those orientations. I honestly never got how it could be interpreted as them having a physical relationship. Weekes might say he left it ambigious, but when Solas says "I did not! I would never lay with you under false pretenses." I have hard time seeing how it can mean anything but "I would never have sex with you, when you didn't know the truth." Well, that's not as simple. "I would not lay with you under false pretenses" can also be interpreted as "I've never taken you as Fen'Harel" - with Fen'Harel being a false pretense. He was with her as Solas and was motivated by genuine feelings, instead of a guise and manipulations of Dread Wolf. It actually makes more sense this way if we consider the context of the whole exchange, in which Lavellan can only unequivocally confirm (in that dialogue option) that yes - he did take her. And 'take her' in a sense of 'had sex', because only moments later Solas confirms that it's about laying with her. But since it's still ambiguous enough, it can be taken both ways. Well, Imshael can actually reveal to us who's a virgin when we ask him for ones as our prize - and the only virgin among party members happens to be Cole. No such comments for Solas, so it can be reasonably assumed that his confident flirting and physicality during intimate moments didn't come out of nowhere... or the Fade, lol. (btw. how does the demon, even powerful one, instantly knows details of someone's sex life. Unnerving >.>) And I keep scratching my head about that particular myth with Dread Wolf being tied to a tree and threatened with sexual slavery. Is this what Andruil really did (or - alternatively - was she the kind of person who'd do stuff like that) or is Felassan just being a troll or making the tale more... mythic-sounding? After all, there can be an awful amount of sexy stuff in myths in general, though Dalish myths that we know don't seem to venture terribly far in that aspect.
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Post by shinary on Sept 30, 2017 16:00:46 GMT
I honestly never got how it could be interpreted as them having a physical relationship. Weekes might say he left it ambigious, but when Solas says "I did not! I would never lay with you under false pretenses." I have hard time seeing how it can mean anything but "I would never have sex with you, when you didn't know the truth." Well, that's not as simple. "I would not lay with you under false pretenses" can also be interpreted as "I've never taken you as Fen'Harel" - with Fen'Harel being a false pretense. He was with her as Solas and was motivated by genuine feelings, instead of a guise and manipulations of Dread Wolf. It actually makes more sense this way if we consider the context of the whole exchange, in which Lavellan can only unequivocally confirm (in that dialogue option) that yes - he did take her. And 'take her' in a sense of 'had sex', because only moments later Solas confirms that it's about laying with her. But since it's still ambiguous enough, it can be taken both ways. Well, Imshael can actually reveal to us who's a virgin when we ask him for ones as our prize - and the only virgin among party members happens to be Cole. No such comments for Solas, so it can be reasonably assumed that his confident flirting and physicality during intimate moments didn't come out of nowhere... or the Fade, lol. (btw. how does the demon, even powerful one, instantly knows details of someone's sex life. Unnerving >.>) And I keep scratching my head about that particular myth with Dread Wolf being tied to a tree and threatened with sexual slavery. Is this what Andruil really did (or - alternatively - was she the kind of person who'd do stuff like that) or is Felassan just being a troll or making the tale more... mythic-sounding? After all, there can be an awful amount of sexy stuff in myths in general, though Dalish myths that we know don't seem to venture terribly far in that aspect. Lol! Good point. I laughed out loud, when I heard that in game. I am not sure my Inquisitor would have minded Cole though - he had his sweeter moments. Anyaway, back to topic. Is it bad that I kind of want the next game to be about Solas fucking up again, but this time releasing all the Evanuris? I want to meet them and see just how bad they really were.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 30, 2017 16:26:46 GMT
Is it bad that I kind of want the next game to be about Solas fucking up again, but this time releasing all the Evanuris? I want to meet them and see just how bad they really were. To be fair, Solas doesn't necessarily has to fuck up again for us to see Evanuris. I kinda wonder whether we're going to learn history the way we did in Trespasser - visiting relevant places, finding artifacts, notes, runes, murals and so on - or are we just going to get access to memories, like we did in raw Fade or in case of Ameridan (though more than just an audio). That could get us near-direct insight into how Evanuris were before - as for how they're now... there's no way of telling how they'd be after spending millenia in prison and potentially Blighted or else. Though, there's also no way of telling whether they're free in some way already or not. I've mused recently that Solas's remark that 'he had plans' concerning Evanuris after tearing of the Veil may not be something referring to plans cancelled by events in the Temple of Sacred Ashes, but something that was null and void long before, maybe because of magisters releasing Blight from Black City or something. I kinda wonder sometimes whether at least portions of them aren't there somewhere. Some people speculate that they may have be those that whispered through or were Old Gods - I'm not sure myself, especially that there are other mysterious groups from ancient past that may do so as well (like Forgotten Ones), but in reality we don't know who is going to join the 10-zillion-dimensional chess game happening in Thedas. Speaking of 10-zillion-dimensional chess... Flemythal suggests that she is doing everything "for the reckoning that will shake the very heavens". Considering that we know now that she's been murdered by other Evanuris, this seems to suggest that she at least believes that they're either here or will show up someday for her to get her revenge. Although - again - we don't really know what that revenge plan is It may as well be something like ensuring that the world survives and thrives or something.
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Post by shinary on Sept 30, 2017 16:34:21 GMT
Is it bad that I kind of want the next game to be about Solas fucking up again, but this time releasing all the Evanuris? I want to meet them and see just how bad they really were. Speaking of 10-zillion-dimensional chess... Flemythal suggests that she is doing everything "for the reckoning that will shake the very heavens". Considering that we know now that she's been murdered by other Evanuris, this seems to suggest that she at least believes that they're either here or will show up someday for her to get her revenge. Although - again - we don't really know what that revenge plan is It may as well be something like ensuring that the world survives and thrives or something. So, we have the Qunari on one side and the Evanuris on the other, trying to destroy the world. I suppose we can't just lean back and let them destroy each other?
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 30, 2017 17:20:55 GMT
Speaking of 10-zillion-dimensional chess... Flemythal suggests that she is doing everything "for the reckoning that will shake the very heavens". Considering that we know now that she's been murdered by other Evanuris, this seems to suggest that she at least believes that they're either here or will show up someday for her to get her revenge. Although - again - we don't really know what that revenge plan is It may as well be something like ensuring that the world survives and thrives or something. So, we have the Qunari on one side and the Evanuris on the other, trying to destroy the world. I suppose we can't just lean back and let them destroy each other? I'd be surprised if Qunari were anywhere close to ultimate threat the like of Evanuris, but eh - who knows. However, I think Qunari would be highly offended at the idea that they want to destroy the world
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 22:06:17 GMT
Solas hypothesis for today, the sort of which only arises as a fancy when out doing yardwork : Can we consider Solas effectively the first Grey Warden? Not in the sense that he went through the Joining, but that there are a lot of hints that his ultimate goal is stopping the Blight by any means necessary. What is the Grey Warden modus operandi? Stopping the Blight by any means necessary. In War, Victory. In Peace, Vigilance. In Death, Sacrifice. This is largely based on speculations over the reasons why Solas created the Veil to stop the Evanuris. What is it hinted that the Evanuris were going to do? Release the Blight onto all of Thedas, intending to use it as a superweapon against their enemies, possibly the Titans. Doing so would have effectively destroyed the world. Creating the Veil to seal the Blight, also allowed him to seal Mythal’s murderers away, as well. I believe that there has to be more to his plan than "destroying our world, to save the Ancient Elves". He can't save the Ancient Elves if they're just going to get eaten by an Archdemon, made into broodmothers, or overwhelmed by Red Lyrium right after the Veil comes down. It has already been theorized that the Veil held back the Blight and contained it in the Fade inside the Black City (which may be the Fade side of Arlathan), until 2,500 years later, the Magisters Sidreal broke in, and let the Blight out into the world again, rendering the Veil effectively useless, and in fact now more harmful than good. Thus, I believe Solas is acting much like a member of the Legion of the Dead or a Grey Warden. He even says he is on the Dinan'Shiral, the Journey of Death. He has chosen a fate which he would not even wish on an enemy, and will become something he doesn’t want a romanced Lavellan to even see. What is uncertain, is whether his current plan will help or hurt Thedas more, in the long-term. So, if they have a similar goal, why does Solas feel so much resentment towards the Grey Wardens? Perhaps it is because they are failing to do exactly what he tried to do, and worse, allowed themselves to be corrupted by the taint. He's not just criticizing their methods, but projecting his anger at himself onto them, just like he does towards the Dalish. Anyway, in Solas’ own words: "The Blight is the real problem." From his dialogues: ___________________________________________________________________
Inquisitor: Am I riding in on a shining steed? Solas: I would have suggested a griffon. Sadly, they are extinct. ____________________________________________________________________
Lavellan: You want to restore the elven people. I would give my life for that. Solas: Would you give the life of every friend you have ever known? There is no glory here, only a price I alone will pay.
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Inquisitor: You love the Fade, why would you create the Veil to hide it all away? Solas: Because every alternative was worse. Inquisitor: Meaning? Solas: Had I not created the Veil, the Evanuris would have destroyed the entire world.
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"Hail Mythal, adjudicator and savior! She has struck down the pillars of the earth and rendered their demesne unto the People! Praise her name forever!"
For a moment, the scent of blood fills the air, and there is a vivid image of green vines growing and enveloping a sphere of fire. The vision grows dark. An aeon seems to pass. Then the runes crackle, as if filled with an angry energy.
A new vision appears: elves collapsing caverns, sealing the Deep Roads with stone and magic. Terror, heart-pounding, ice-cold, as the last of the spells is cast. A voice whispers:
"What the Evanuris in their greed could unleash would end us all. Let this place be forgotten. Let no one wake its anger. The People must rise before their false gods destroy them all." ____________________________________________________________________ (collected dialogues after this point were originally assembled at corseque’s tumblr) ____________________________________________________________________
Solas: Your Order… the Grey Wardens… Blackwall: What about them? Solas: The Wardens see themselves as the world’s defense against the Blight, do they not? Blackwall: Yes… why do you sound so skeptical? Doesn’t everyone know this? Solas: When an Archdemon rises, they slay it. What will they do when all the Archdemons are slain? Blackwall: Retire? Solas: Without Archdemons, there can be no Blights. Is that the reasoning? Blackwall: Right. Where are you going with this? Solas: Nowhere. I hope they are correct.
(he is totally not hinting here that killing all the Old Gods/Archdemons would help destroy the Veil) ____________________________________________________________________
Solas: I find the fall of the dwarven lands confusing. Varric: What’s so confusing about endless darkspawn? Solas: A great deal, although that is a different matter. ____________________________________________________________________
(at the Western Approach) Inquisitor: The Approach seems to be recovering from the old Blight. Solas:Blights scar all they touch. To see wildlife thriving here… Solas: It is deeply unexpected. ____________________________________________________________________
Solas: The Grey Wardens allow elves and dwarves into their ranks? Varric: Qunari, too, I imagine. They don’t care about titles or blood, just stopping the Blight. Solas: A pity they do it so badly, then. Blackwall: Would you care to repeat that? Solas: Argue if you like. Your fight against the darkspawn is noble, but what progress have you made? Varric: Give them some credit. It’s not like you can study the Blight safely. I may not like everything they’ve done, but without the Wardens, we’d all be blighted by now. Solas: They’ve bought us some time, I will grant them that. ____________________________________________________________________
(warning to the elven woman in Crestwood who wants to join the Grey Wardens) Solas: Wardens will do anything to stop the Blight. There is much to admire in that commitment… but much to be wary of as well. ____________________________________________________________________
Inquisitor: Why would the Wardens try to kill the Old Gods? Erimond: A Blight happens when darkspawn find an Old God and corrupt it into an Archdemon. Erimond: If someone fought through the Deep Roads and killed the Old Gods before they could be corrupted… poof! Erimond: No more Blights. Ever. The Wardens sacrifice their lives and save the world. Solas: That’s madness! For all we know, killing the Old Gods could make things even worse! ____________________________________________________________________
(after Here Lies The Abyss) Solas:I cannot believe the Grey Wardens could even conceive of such a plan. Solas: To seek out these Old Gods deliberately in some bizarre attempt to preempt the Blight… Inquisitor: Grey Wardens have always been dangerous. They care for nothing beyond stopping the darkspawn. Solas: Like a fair maiden chasing a butterfly off a cliff. Solas: Except that if you hadn’t stopped them, we’d all have fallen. ____________________________________________________________________
Inquisitor: And calling the army of demons. That’s my favorite part. Solas: The demons are nothing. They’re a tool. Inquisitor: A tool that would have let Corypheus ride roughshod over most of Orlais. Solas: Even if they hadn’t, the entire idea is wrong. Solas: The Blight is not something one smugly outsmarts. Solas: Forgive me. The entire idea is… unnerving. ____________________________________________________________________
Inquisitor: I wouldn’t mind never having another Blight. Corypheus interfering is the real problem. Solas: The Blight is the real problem. Inquisitor: And the Wardens are trying to end the Blight forever. Solas: That’s not the point. Even if they could succeed, the entire idea is wrong. ____________________________________________________________________
Inquisitor: How many lives were lost during the last Blight? Inquisitor: Corypheus notwithstanding, I don’t blame the Wardens for acting instead of reacting. Solas:They acted stupidly. Inquisitor: By trying to end the Blight forever? Solas: Yes! Would it have worked? Do you know? Did they? Solas: The fools who first unleashed the Blight upon this world thought they were unlocking ultimate power. Solas: Forgive me. The entire idea is… unnerving. ____________________________________________________________________
Solas: Those fools and duty. Responsibility is not expertise. Action is not inherently superior to inaction. ____________________________________________________________________
(Solas’ disapproval conversation) Solas:Why am I surprised? You supported the Grey Wardens. Their blind zealotry must be a solace. ____________________________________________________________________
Solas:Are you pleased to have the Grey Wardens on your side? Do you wish you could join their proud little cult? Solas: How long, do you think, before their next attempt to control something beyond their comprehension? Inquisitor: The Wardens deserved a chance to redeem themselves. Solas: Their only purpose is to protect the world from something they do not understand, something that corrupts them! Inquisitor: Grey Wardens know more about the Blight than anyone else. They’re our best hope of fighting it. Solas: If that is true, then… (Sighs.) Let us hope otherwise. For all our sakes. ____________________________________________________________________
Inquisitor: So you’re an expert on the Blight now, not just the Fade? Or are you just an authority on everything strange? Solas: If current wisdom suggests you corrupt yourself with darkspawn blood, any suggestion I offer would have to be better. ____________________________________________________________________
Cassandra: You don’t think much of the Grey Wardens, Solas. Solas: They are fools, a fact only amplified by Corypheus’ meddling. The Wardens’ insistence on tampering with forces they do not understand… that is what defines their Order. Cassandra: A harsh assessment—but after Adamant, perhaps not undeserved. ____________________________________________________________________
Inquisitor: What can you tell me about the source of Corypheus’s power? Solas: According to the lore, the ancient magisters of Tevinter received guidance from the Old Gods. Solas: Corypheus commands a false Archdemon—a corrupted Old God. This suggests he no longer sees himself as their minion. Solas: Some of his unique power comes from the corruption of the Blight. The rest may come from the orb he carries. ____________________________________________________________________
Inquisitor: You said that you believed the orb is elven? Solas: I never would have believed a Tevinter mage could unlock such a powerful relic. Solas: It clearly enhances his abilities, giving him access to power he should never have known. Inquisitor: Like the power to control the Archdemon? Solas: Indirectly, one assumes. Nothing in any lore connects my people to the Old God dragons who became Archdemons. ____________________________________________________________________
Cassandra: Solas, what do you think this Corypheus actually is? Solas: A darkspawn, as he appears. Cassandra: But what of the orb he wields and the dragon he commands? This is no ordinary darkspawn. Solas: His true advantage is the red lyrium. It is corrupted by the blight as he is, thus he taps into its power twofold. Solas: Whatever he was before, that is what makes him dangerous now. ____________________________________________________________________
Cassandra: Solas, the dragon Corypheus commands—could it truly be an Archdemon? Solas: One assumes that if it were, we would be facing a Blight. Cassandra: So what is it, then? A corrupted dragon, simply another darkspawn? Solas: It is connected to Corypheus. Such a relation goes beyond mere control—it is a bond. Cassandra: It makes you wonder if that’s all the Archdemons themselves are: pets to beings who no longer exist. Solas: I would not go so far as that. This dragon is a replica spawned from a creature who aspires to greatness, no more. ____________________________________________________________________
Vivienne: Corypheus is a complex creature, to draw upon so many different sources of power. Vivienne: He has his own magic, he draws from the blight, the artifact he carries is elven… Vivienne: And now, he uses a demon to create a false Calling to fool the mages. Solas: The false Calling was blight magic. The demon merely amplified its power. Vivienne: This ancient magister is like a man drinking from three wineglasses at once. Solas: And one of the glasses is poisoned. ____________________________________________________________________
Vivienne: You disapprove of Corypheus using the magic of the blight, Solas? Solas: Every intelligent creature should. Vivienne: Yet you raise no objection to the Grey Wardens using blood magic. Solas: Blood magic is no worse than any other, properly used. But the Blight… Solas: The blight corrupts everything it touches. Those who believe themselves capable of using it safely are mad. ____________________________________________________________________
Vivienne: I understand that Grey Wardens are connected in some way to the blight. Solas: Then that explains why we saw no old men at Adamant.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 1, 2017 12:08:49 GMT
I've long said that everything would seem to point towards the Blight being the reason Solas now feels he has no choice but to follow the course he is. It would tie into the theme that has run through the series. I could be misdirection by the writers of course.
Incidentally, I've long thought Solas looks really good in that outfit. It is one of my favourite ones for him.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 1, 2017 12:49:10 GMT
Hmm... I don't know. I do agree that the story points to the Blight (or what's behind it) possibly being the ultimate threat and Solas may try and stop it, but unlike Grey Wardens or Legion Of The Dead Solas is fighting it not because "it is Blight", but "because it's the ultimate threat (or close to it)". If the threat was something else, Solas would fight it either way. His main priority isn't to free the world from Blight, but preserve as much world as possible; something he even says to Blackwall: Blackwall: What happened at Redcliffe, have you ever seen its like, Solas? Solas: The distortion of time? I have seen magic accomplish many things, but ... no, that is new. Blackwall: Magic has little place in a war between men. Solas: Many mages are brutes, seeing nothing more than a larger ball of fire. Solas: But those with imagination, those who use war to push the limits of the possible ... Blackwall: I wish the Chantry could better enforce restrictions against its use. Solas: Such rules never hold. Any who want victory will find some reason their cause merits exception. Solas: The best we can do is ensure the world still stands when this fight ends. If anything, I don't think Solas is projecting his anger on grey Wardens - he may know more about the Blight than the rest, but he's voiced his issue with the Wardens fairly clear: they don't really know what they're fighting. Naturally, there's a question of how much the Grey Wardens can really learn about the Blight, given that so far we only know how to contain it or fight its symptoms, like Archdemon-led darkspawn hordes, but we don't really know much about Grey Wardens doing much except for culling darkspawn numbers and slaying Archdemons, with some exceptions like Sophia Dryden's revolt (that got theme exiled from Ferelden). And of course, they use the Blight to fight it, which - for whatever reason - is a big no-no in Solas's book.
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Post by legbamel on Oct 2, 2017 2:46:20 GMT
[staggers to a halt, panting] I have finally read the entire thread. [collapses] Considering I left the old Blanketfort around the time of Mountie Solas in the midst of the Glitterati Pantheon enthusiasm, I've now consumed approximately 300 pages of theorycrafting that have my head spinning. Rather than unleash all of that in one enormous post, I will instead share my Team Optimism theme for immediately after the Crestwood break-up (which I didn't even realize was a break-up, since he protests pretty much the same way the whole time). The lyrics are under the spoiler. Her: Sitting out here in the sun Played my heart like 21 Spend my time all crying Cos I just forget to laugh Him: Now everyone around me Is just always trying to sell me On the notion that you're not the one That I deserve to have
Her: But if you'd just clean up your act Him: Tell me what you mean by that Them: Maybe we should dance one more time Whoa (Yeah!)
Her: Sweet hell I'm a little lonely in this tore up town Him: Sweet hell Won't you come and find me in this big ole house Lock the door So we can bury these bones on the floor Oh, sweet hell I'm a little lonely, baby, where are you
Her: Well, I got some roses at the door But who they're from and who they're for Might just need explaining So go on and get to that
Him: Well, I can't believe you act like that Her: Well, I can't believe I want you back Them: Maybe we should dance one more time Whoa (Yeah!)
Chorus repeat to end
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 4:30:30 GMT
Welcome back to the Blanketfort, legbamel ! It's pretty quiet now, but we try to keep the flame alive.
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Post by Solas on Oct 2, 2017 5:24:45 GMT
welcome back legbamel : ]
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Post by Julilla on Oct 2, 2017 15:42:04 GMT
legbamel, I'm pretty sure we never got our Mountie Solas art.
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Post by legbamel on Oct 2, 2017 16:58:06 GMT
We totally did! Someone posted it 100 pages or so ago. Now I'll have to go digging...should have saved it.
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Post by legbamel on Oct 2, 2017 19:01:24 GMT
I found it!!!! A-ha!
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 2, 2017 20:23:30 GMT
A canadia... what am I looking at? >D
Speaking of outfits - do you think that Solas will show up in his signature Trespasser armor? Or something else... considering that it wasn't really a unique armor, but an ancient elf gear with additional bits thrown in?
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Post by ellawyn on Oct 2, 2017 22:04:37 GMT
A canadia... what am I looking at? >D Speaking of outfits - do you think that Solas will show up in his signature Trespasser armor? Or something else... considering that it wasn't really a unique armor, but an ancient elf gear with additional bits thrown in? I'm gonna have to be a heathen and hope for the second option because, full disclosure, I didn't really... like the Trespasser armor. I mean! I didn't terribly hate it, like I do for some of his armors! (Listen can we all collectively agree that the Dalish Keeper armor has just got an atrocious color scheme? And that ankle-length vest thing is not working at all. Not the least because it's glued to his legs when it looks like it should be flapping about.) I feel like the top half works pretty well, actually. But it's just... those leggings. Christ. Like he's about to break out into a jazzy Broadway dance number. Also knee faces? And his boots are literally wolf paws? Like he's wearing kid's pajamas????? Wake up, BSN.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 2, 2017 22:06:09 GMT
I want Solas stuck in one of those absolutely horrible outfit I gave him before fighting Corypheus.
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Post by uirebhiril on Oct 2, 2017 23:17:01 GMT
Still better than the miniskirts and bathrobes everyone ran around in for DAO.
Or DA2, come to think of it. My mage Hawke stayed in seriously underpowered armor for way too long because I couldn't put her in the robes and take anything seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 23:25:09 GMT
A canadia... what am I looking at? >D Speaking of outfits - do you think that Solas will show up in his signature Trespasser armor? Or something else... considering that it wasn't really a unique armor, but an ancient elf gear with additional bits thrown in? He might show up wearing nothing at all:
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