The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

This is a sound possibility. Its a callback to Mass Effect 1's handling of Saren. Like a Bioware benchmark of sort.

Its the big branching dialogue and plot points (mostly the morality system in ME's case) culmination where you can get the antiheroe to see the error of his way and make the big sacrifice to twart his own plan or if you lack arguments/power (plot points) you have to fight (or jsut dont use your arguments and push the fight if you want blood). In hte cas of Solas, you add an epilogue card about him being still felt in the Fade (in good/bad ways).

If the dev team is in a pinch and dont have time for something more elaborate, I can totally see them falling back on this tried and trusted approach. Its a good one, but jsut not the most original at this point. Maybe were lucky and there is more to it ? Like a Loghain twist of sort ? Or even better something new...

Anyway, I'd be dissapointed if we get less then the Saren treatment for Solas (with him being an antiheroe and not a stupid BigBad). From there, it can only get better, so one can hope.

If there is one thing they have in spades, it is time.

Yup.

I wouldn't be so quick to say Solas can't read minds. I still think there were a bunch of hints throughout DAI that ancient elves were, in fact, telepathic to some degree.

But his choice in that story is exactly the same kind of choice Wardens, Hawkes and Inquisitors make all the time when dealing with people in the setting. I'm not sure why it would be their place but not his to make such moral choices.

Out of curiosity, would your opinion of him change if he was the one who gave that group the order to do that?

Very true. We can always have a discussion how much fiction or portrayals of matters in fiction say about, or affect people who produce or consume it - and at the same time like or enjoy things that are problematic or not-how-we-would-like them-in-real-life. After all, one of the principal reasons for existence of entire concept of fiction is experiencing or exploring scenarios within safe confines of our own imagination, and having the comfort of deciding whether we like it or not within in.

Like... Solas is a character from games where the protagonists we play mostly KILL STUFF - be it humans, wildlife or some sort of sentient beings (in Inquisition itself we do it to a point that even characters in-game (like Dorian) comment on it ). It doesn't matter that a lot of them are portrayed as arseholes (and not all of them are) - majority of them are guilty of things I wouldn't just go and shiv them for. So if I accept that aspect of fiction I enjoy (albeit I wouldn't mind if games grew to be complex enough so we wouldn't have to do so much murdering ) why wouldn't I accept liking a well-written, complex fictional character that - regardless how he would end - has both entertained me and have me something to ponder on already?

Well in my case my opinion of him hasn't been changed by Tevinter Nights because he had already lost my respect with Trespasser. In the main game he was often taking my companions to task over their actions, justifiably I felt at times. For example, he took Iron Bull to task for appearing to enjoy killing so much when his victims probably still had family and friends who cared about them. Quite right, I thought, we are killing people because otherwise they would kill us but that doesn't mean we should revel in it.

However, in Trespasser he seemed to be shedding "crocodile tears" over what he was planning to do, I felt that all his previous moralising had been hypocritical. Okay, so he wasn't going to enjoy what he had planned but if he wanted me to understand why he had to do it, then he needed to offer a more comprehensive explanation why he needs to do it to "save" his people and sacrifice mine.

As it is, my Inquisitors will probably regret the fact they have to kill him out of self preservation, to save the people they love and their world, because he hasn't really given them any other option. However, I don't give a flying fig about "redeeming" him because I don't believe anyone can do that but Solas himself.

Yes, I think I agree with much of this. I would add that I do have one Inquisitor who probably sees it more this way, that is my first Inquisitor who romanced him. I remember when we were looking at the graveyard in the Fade with our companions greatest fears, and his was "To die alone" (that is right isn't it? - it's so long since I've played the game). At the time I remember her thinking that he never had to fear that again. So she definitely still believes that he is making a tragic mistake in acting as he is and there has to be a way of reaching him. I did form the impression that she was probably the only person other than Cole who seemed to feel this way by the end. I remember when she yelled "We have to save Solas", I got a uniform "disapproves" from those with her.

Of course a romanced Inquisitor who remains loyal to him is the only one who gets that additional slide showing that he is still thinking about her, which does seem to suggest that she might be the one who is best placed to succeed in "saving him from himself".

My male Lavellans tend to see it more in the light of having been tricked by the Dread Wolf in his humble guise during the time he was with them. After all, it hasn't been lost on them the fact that had his orb not been destroyed in that final battle with Corypheus, he would already have gone past the point of redemption in carrying out his plan. Had he not expressed such regard for them and had they not felt he was their friend, they might not have reacted as badly as they did to his revelations in Trespasser. The fact that he admitted there was more he could have told them but did not for fear of giving them too much information, only made the matter worse in their eyes. There is a strong sense of betrayal, not helped by the fact that this was how the Dread Wolf was always portrayed in their legends - as a betrayer of people who trusted him.

As I was listening to Dragon Age YouTube videos today, I actually got choked up and teary eyed over thinking of holding a copy of DA4 in the future.
I just need to get these dorks to boink and save the world. Andraste’s tits, is it too much to ask? *cries forever*

also Happy Mother’s Day to any of my fellow spawn creators and/or caretakers

All throughout Dragon Age, including latest book, we have people confusing their personal motivations and ideas of what they fight for with what the leader(s) is/are proposing or standing for and then doing things their way. So why can't there be a similar situation here? And the above seems to assume that there isn't a faction there that is misguided in thinking that they fight for Fen'Harel. We still don't know who was that person from dreams of an elf we hear in Val Royeaux, for example.

We already have found out that there are at least two ancient beings walking on Thedas and influencing events. The other ones don't have to be Evanuris, but they may be either powerful or cunning enough to shove things their way.  We have no idea what Executors are doing, only that they are tied in some way to Solas and his cause and they DO appear to have a way of swaying/manipulating people (our own people from Inquisition abandoned us for them).

The Executors have driven me mad since first seeing the word at the War Table. I don't know how to pronounce it, and that makes all the difference to the word meaning in my mind. Are they ex-EC-utors, and if so, whose will are they executing? Or are they EX-ecutors, and if so who are they executing and why? It's a vague appellation that the Elvhen would appreciate, I think, having two different feels.