The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

Maybe blood magic=no fade is only a problem with the veil being up? Would ancient elves not use blood magic? What were all them sacrifices for then?


I also have an other solas/elves question while replaying. So, does solas want to bring back only the physical state of a veil-less thedas, get the spirits roaming and such (well he does consider them as people, so its not just an environment to him) or does he want to bring back the evanuris specifically (im replaying, and i dont see him liking them or their actions very much)?

Could his whole big plan be to bring down the veil without freeing the whole menagerie? Or getting rid of them + dropping the veil ?

He "HAD" plans.

That whole conversation was about what would have happened if he'd recovered his orb.  He says nothing about his current plans.

I think, if the Evanuris unexpectedly came out to play, I'd be sorely disappointed if working alongside Solas (temporarily) wasn't an option. Enemy of my enemy, at the worst. Chance to reinforce to him that cooperating with us instead of fighting us opens new paths, at best. They could still include an option to backstab him or have him backstab you if conditions aren't met, or something.

I still think there have been agents of the Evanuris at work throughout known history, anyway. The u-turn Solas' PR takes after the fall of the Dales suggests as much, to me. They go from him being the hero legend who is merged with Shartan in its retellings (WoT v1), him being the probable inspiration for the wolves that accompany the Emerald Knights (source: my speculation, but c'mon, wolves.), and from the elves of the Dales taking shelter under the gaze of *gigantic* statues of him, to him being the enemy of The People.

Not to mention the whole "There is evidence that, 800 years ago, "Fen'harel" actually meant "noble rebel" not "betrayer"." thing. What happened around that time? Fall of the Dales, loss of even more knowledge of the past, and the rise of Gisharel's stories. And a single elf now being the source of the vast majority of Creators stories, none of them flattering for him, is very suspicious. I mean, the legend of his slave rebellion made it to the time of Andraste and after (see the bit about it being merged with Shartan's exploits) and yet not a peep about that in the modern Dalish tales. My theory is that, post-Dales, Dalish oral history wasn't lost, it was taken; and not by humans.

I'd be surprised if you could side with the evanuris. Youre thinking of a 'siding with cerberus' type of deal? I could see a Qunari 'enemy of my enemy' alliance (thats closer to working with cerberus) but Evanuris appear like BigEvil types so far.

I mean, Solas is pretentious, but he once worked for the people. And it still took him to live by your side to get some sense of your worth. What would Evanuris want from you, or your Tranquil people? They already treated ancient elves like sh*t.

Anything is possible, but its far more likely we are tasked to run through the pantheon and then get to deal with solas. dont you think?

Once again something that is contradicted by what Solas actually tells us. Remember that was just the conjecture of human scholars, who apparently know more about the elven language than the Dalish do, and really was just a heavy handed way for the writers to introduce us to the idea that there may be another side to the Fen'Harel story. However, Solas readily admits that the title Fen'Harel was given to him as an insult by the Evanuris and then he decided to adopt it as a useful means of intimidating the followers of his enemies and inspiring his friends. After all, Dread Wolf sounds so much more impressive than simply Rebel Wolf.   Flemeth also addresses him as "Dread Wolf", which seems pretty conclusive. 

We also know that the Evanuris were actively promoting the idea that he was someone not to be trusted and the one you most needed to watch for was not his Dread Wolf guise but when he had the appearance of a humble wanderer offering you his wisdom as guidance.

It is clear from Trespasser that how you viewed the Dread Wolf depended on which side you were on. The Keepers of the Dalish clearly got their story handed down to them from the pro-Evanuris faction; what I keep wondering is what happened to the rebels? However, we should never forget that the Dalish story has him locking away the leaders of both sides in the conflict. If this were true, possibly out of necessity in order to spring his trap at the right time, it would explain why he is not remembered fondly by his own side either but as a miserable trickster who stabbed them in the back. He fully admits that he has sacrificed allies along the way, so the Dalish story does seem to ring true with this.

Two sides were at war, the Creators (Evanuris) and the Forgotten Ones (rebels). Both sides trusted him when he said to call a truce whilst he negotiated with the other side. That makes sense considering the Evanuris saw him as the leader of the rebels and the rebels would be happy for him to act as go-between. Then in Merrill's version of the story he told both sides he knew the location of a weapon that would win the war for them and where to find it. Both groups headed off to find this weapon and when they got to the location, he imprisoned them.  If both sides were willing to use this alleged weapon of mass destruction he probably thought it best to lock them all away.  It rings true to me with everything he told us.


I think it more likely that the Arcane Warrior bodyguards of old may have been known as wolves, which are known for their loyalty. He says that everyone respected them and no one doubted their honour. If he was the arcane warrior bodyguard to Mythal, that would explain why he was already depicted as a wolf and why the title he was given was "Dread" wolf because he had done the unthinkable and turned against the Evanuris (of course he was still loyal to Mythal and if the rebellion first occurred before her death, then she may have actively encouraged it). So the real wolf guardians may have been through the modern Dalish misunderstanding the reference to wolves as guardians, whilst the statues seem more likely to date to the time when this area was Mythal's territory.

I find it hard to believe that in the few hundred years the Dalish were in occupation of this area, they bothered with making giant wolf statues when they had more pressing demands on their time. However, even the Dalish like to employ smaller statues of Fen'Harel at the edge of their camp to ward off evil spirits, so it is possible that they may have seen using a giant statue of Fen'Harel as a way of warding off their enemies. After all, it does seem rather foolish not to try and appease and get the one god who is able to answer prayers on your side. May be when they started feeling under threat from their human neighbours they thought a giant Fen'Harel statue was an effective way of saying: "May the Dread Wolf take you."

Would you put Abela's people on the rebellion side? Were there unaligned people?

Do you remember how Solas feels for the ancient elves themselves... doesnt he state that they squandered his gifts? It might be when talking about the Dalish, but he may have been refering to the old times before they became aravel dwellers. Replaying the game, I got this feeling that he misses the civiization, the way of life, side by side with spirits, and not so much the People. Sure he will say that he would sacrifice the inquisitor's people for his (or at least imply that you would if the situation was reversed).

All that to say, he might not feel alligned with the rebels anymore (maybe they joined the Qun hahahaha) and seeing how it is the spirits that paid for his actions on their behalf with the veil, hes now on a new crusade to fix things for them.

Where I feel he is still tricking people is by having elves work for him. there's his usual MO of not telling them to do it but letting them act on their own expectations. But he also tells Charter directly that what's to come might be good for her people.  So im still wondering, once the veil is taken down, would only spirits thrive, spirits and ancient elves used to this state, or anyone who would survive the initial change and rebuild in this new state?

We see the figure rise from the Well, though, so I wonder if there is a kind of communication that goes on with the Well and Abelas. I assumed that the Well indicated to him that the Inquisitor should have that knowledge, whether by drinking themselves or using Morrigan to do it. Mythal is a long thinker, so I imagine that the Elvhen at the Temple were waiting for further instructions. I think it's likely that they were told to wait no matter what happens, including the murder of Mythal.

The bald head.

Seriously, though, I think the ancient ones must give off some sort of spiritual aura that is instantly recognisable to one of their own. Either that or Solas was able to make some sort of mind link with him. Abelas was able to identify him at a distance from that balcony, so I doubt it was some secret sign that passed between them.

Gosh I haven't been here for literally three years...

By now my heart has healed complet-



Nope. Nevermind. Nothing's changed. I STILL HURT.

I know it's an old piece of news but I only just now came across it... Youtube decided to throw Jackdaw videos at my boyfriend since he's started getting interested in DA.
It's very high quality content so I decided to watch some of my own and now... 
I've accidentally stumbled back into Solavellan hell spriral.

Do you reckon there'll be anything in EA play (June 11th)?

I agree that it was...strange...that we couldn't ask Solas about that.

As for Morrigan...she can just eff right off for all I care. I have no desire to see her again.

UNLESS

When she returns, she isn't really Morrigan anymore, and has been entirely taken over by Mythal herself. That would be acceptable to me.

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I'm in the middle of reading several books I've missed (as well as Tevinter Nights) so I've yet to watch their latest videos.

So I finished Tevinter Nights, just now read the last page of The Dread Wolf Take You, and..


There's so much in this book, honestly I wasn't prepared for how much new information there'll be in it. I was certain I wouldn't gain a lot from the books (theory-wise) but I was wrong.