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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 16, 2020 23:44:32 GMT
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I always thought he was attractive, ever since this art came out in the lead up to DAI's release: He is very aesthetically pleasing there. I find Solas physically handsome, in physique and in the face. I also think he makes the baldness work.
But those pants have always looked ridiculous to me. XD
That's fair. I like his shipped-product shirt tails, myself. But his face in this art was quite striking.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 17, 2020 13:25:05 GMT
It is kind of fun to go back and read character descriptions provided by EA as part of the lead-up to DAI's release, knowing what we know now. Here's Solas'...
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 17, 2020 18:07:02 GMT
Okay for all you Solasmancers, when I found this video on You Tube it immediately sprang to mind this could be Lavellan searching for a way to change the Dread Wolf's heart out in the wilds with the wolf watching on (or possibly a vision in her dreams). It is called Wolf Song; a Nordic lullaby.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 17, 2020 18:23:01 GMT
Also, whilst I am sure this has probably been posted before, no harm in doing so again.
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Post by wildenight on Sept 17, 2020 19:13:21 GMT
"It's more complicated than that" as Solas' battle cry. Yeah. That sums him up well.
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Post by Julilla on Sept 17, 2020 19:58:58 GMT
Okay for all you Solasmancers, when I found this video on You Tube it immediately sprang to mind this could be Lavellan searching for a way to change the Dread Wolf's heart out in the wilds with the wolf watching on (or possibly a vision in her dreams). It is called Wolf Song; a Nordic lullaby. That was so lovely! Thanks Gervaise!
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 19, 2020 21:42:55 GMT
Emily (aka Domino) Taylor pentapodSocially distanced BBQ today with someone who was QA on #DragonAgeInquisition and responsible for testing the Solas romance. “And then they started taking notes on clipboards about when I started crying, and saying yep, that’ll work” #overheardintheoffice
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 19, 2020 22:16:48 GMT
Emily (aka Domino) Taylor pentapod Socially distanced BBQ today with someone who was QA on #DragonAgeInquisition and responsible for testing the Solas romance. “And then they started taking notes on clipboards about when I started crying, and saying yep, that’ll work” #overheardintheoffice Don't give me hope for Solavellan content then not deliver, Bioware!
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Post by Theneras on Sept 20, 2020 2:17:51 GMT
Emily (aka Domino) Taylor pentapod Socially distanced BBQ today with someone who was QA on #DragonAgeInquisition and responsible for testing the Solas romance. “And then they started taking notes on clipboards about when I started crying, and saying yep, that’ll work” #overheardintheoffice Don't give me hope for Solavellan content then not deliver, Bioware! If Patrick leaves us hanging, I will set up a GoFundMe to raise money to deliver a truck load of manure to Bioware's front door! (It may or may not bee on fire) *Disclaimer. If this actually happens, I didn't do it. It was really only a suggestion. I wouldn't actually do anything of the sort.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 20, 2020 11:27:43 GMT
I didn't know where else to put it, but seeing as it can be somewhat viewed as Solavellan, thought I'd post it here warning, may break your heart and bring you to tears I found it while randomly browsing pinterest and it simply broke my heart
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 20, 2020 14:05:55 GMT
Yeah, the Dawn Will Come scene was awkward verging on terrifying for a lot of non-Andrastians, I think!
But it was a really cool scene to have in the game, all the same.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 20, 2020 14:21:31 GMT
Yeah, the Dawn Will Come scene was awkward verging on terrifying for a lot of non-Andrastians, I think! But it was a really cool scene to have in the game, all the same. Same
but think about it...look at what happened to Shartan, he and his people bled and died for freedom and helped Andraste yet after one misstep (that had fault on both side), his verses are stricken from the Chant, any imagery of him destroyed or defiled and let's not forget Ameridan, who history remembers as a human man without any magic! I'd understand perfectly for a non-Andrastian (even if they are human) to be terrified
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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 20, 2020 15:32:23 GMT
I didn't know where else to put it, but seeing as it can be somewhat viewed as Solavellan, thought I'd post it here warning, may break your heart and bring you to tears I found it while randomly browsing pinterest and it simply broke my heart Yeah, I hit this on tumblr some days ago and I'm thankful that at least one person doesn't over-hype this scene, but actually recognises the shit that could/will happen. Yeah, the Dawn Will Come scene was awkward verging on terrifying for a lot of non-Andrastians, I think! But it was a really cool scene to have in the game, all the same. Same
but think about it...look at what happened to Shartan, he and his people bled and died for freedom and helped Andraste yet after one misstep (that had fault on both side), his verses are stricken from the Chant, any imagery of him destroyed or defiled and let's not forget Ameridan, who history remembers as a human man without any magic! I'd understand perfectly for a non-Andrastian (even if they are human) to be terrified ladyiolanthe A poster in another community called it mortifying. My english vocabulary is limited, but both -ing enders are really that appropriate. Since I'm on a roll now given my shitposting in other threats, I'd still maintain that Drakon's Orlais and his Chantry started it. I mean, who would like a bunch of condescending missonaries barging into your home and yelling about how your rituals are false and shit and theirs are so much better? And if you tell them to fuck off, they send zealot military (templars) and start a smear campaign.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 20, 2020 15:40:55 GMT
Yeah, the Dawn Will Come scene was awkward verging on terrifying for a lot of non-Andrastians, I think! But it was a really cool scene to have in the game, all the same. Same
but think about it...look at what happened to Shartan, he and his people bled and died for freedom and helped Andraste yet after one misstep (that had fault on both side), his verses are stricken from the Chant, any imagery of him destroyed or defiled and let's not forget Ameridan, who history remembers as a human man without any magic! I'd understand perfectly for a non-Andrastian (even if they are human) to be terrified Also what happened to Ameridan. He basically died in service to Andrastianism and Drakon, and was repaid for his sacrifice by having his identity completely erased. That whole conversation with him really impacted my Inquisitor. She can see the same thing happening to her, down the road. Supposing that something doesn't happen to change everything, that is.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 20, 2020 16:25:00 GMT
A lot can happen to Inquisitor, but meeting with Ameridan... for any Inquisitor that isn't non-mage human, it can be devastating. Double for Dalish, triple if they're a mage on top of that. Same
but think about it...look at what happened to Shartan, he and his people bled and died for freedom and helped Andraste yet after one misstep (that had fault on both side), his verses are stricken from the Chant, any imagery of him destroyed or defiled and let's not forget Ameridan, who history remembers as a human man without any magic! I'd understand perfectly for a non-Andrastian (even if they are human) to be terrified Also what happened to Ameridan. He basically died in service to Andrastianism and Drakon, and was repaid for his sacrifice by having his identity completely erased. That whole conversation with him really impacted my Inquisitor. She can see the same thing happening to her, down the road. Supposing that something doesn't happen to change everything, that is. Yeah, my Inquisitor reacted the same. I even headcanon his human version would be what Fearlings would turn into, if I tracked Ameridan before HLtA. The fact that so many characters insist on calling you Herald of Andraste, no matter how much you may oppose, shows that we're sadly getting there.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 20, 2020 16:49:18 GMT
Same
but think about it...look at what happened to Shartan, he and his people bled and died for freedom and helped Andraste yet after one misstep (that had fault on both side), his verses are stricken from the Chant, any imagery of him destroyed or defiled and let's not forget Ameridan, who history remembers as a human man without any magic! I'd understand perfectly for a non-Andrastian (even if they are human) to be terrified Also what happened to Ameridan. He basically died in service to Andrastianism and Drakon, and was repaid for his sacrifice by having his identity completely erased. That whole conversation with him really impacted my Inquisitor. She can see the same thing happening to her, down the road. Supposing that something doesn't happen to change everything, that is. My Inquisitor refused being called the Herald, and refused being named Inquisitor (not that the plot allows it), which naturally earned her disapproval with people like Cassandra she was terrified of the power being Inquisitor held, but tried being a fair-minded person whenever she could. Thus when the opportunity came to lay down her arms she took it with open arms. (Hell, she'd have done it before the Exalted Council to keep the honor to herself, but again...the plot doesn't allow this)
and...it's already happened, the Hero of Ferelden...no one even calls them by name anymore (and by the time Inquisition rolls by it's only been a decade) Alistair (if King) even lampshades this to Teagan in DA2 (Alistair: she/he has a name you know) even Hawke has already had their name somewhat erased, being called "Champion of Kirkwall" instead of just Hawke
and yeah...I imagine the Inquisitor, particularly a non-Andrastian, would feel worried about how the Chantry would change their image along the way.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 20, 2020 16:50:48 GMT
I also came across a somewhat happier image credit to: tigernaute
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Post by Elessara on Sept 20, 2020 17:10:52 GMT
Same
but think about it...look at what happened to Shartan, he and his people bled and died for freedom and helped Andraste yet after one misstep (that had fault on both side), his verses are stricken from the Chant, any imagery of him destroyed or defiled and let's not forget Ameridan, who history remembers as a human man without any magic! I'd understand perfectly for a non-Andrastian (even if they are human) to be terrified Also what happened to Ameridan. He basically died in service to Andrastianism and Drakon, and was repaid for his sacrifice by having his identity completely erased. That whole conversation with him really impacted my Inquisitor. She can see the same thing happening to her, down the road. Supposing that something doesn't happen to change everything, that is. What's even funnier/weirder/ironically appropriate ... when I first played that DLC I loaded a save from pre-end game with my elven mage (romancing Solas) and I took with me my trusty trio of Solas, Cassandra, and Varric. And then you hear Ameridan's story unwind and there were so many parallels. You could take literally any other combination of companions and not experience that level of weird deja vu.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 20, 2020 17:20:05 GMT
Huh. Meanwhile my Lavellan saw that musical scene as still a very touching moment and one that showed hope of better relations and how harmony even with those who disagree is possible.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 20, 2020 17:26:56 GMT
Yeah, mine didn't freak out about the sing-a-long either. Songs (I headcanon) are a relatively common thing in the clan, after all.
She was taken aback by the kneeling, more than anything. lol
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 20, 2020 17:53:18 GMT
Yeah, mine didn't freak out about the sing-a-long either. Songs (I headcanon) are a relatively common thing in the clan, after all.
She was taken aback by the kneeling, more than anything. lol It's not the song itself I'm referring to, but the context of the scene. The soon-to-be Inquisitor wakes up from nearly dying to hear the people in power, the people who until now have had all the answers, arguing. Then a priestess of a religion that isn't your own tells you they're arguing because they think they saw you come back from the dead. She tells you people see you as miraculous and sent by her god to help. Then, even if you reject that notion, she proceeds to rouse everyone into singing a religious hymn and they start kneeling to you, some with their hands held in prayerful supplication, elevating you to something you are not. It's a beautiful song but for someone who does not share that faith, what happens as a result of the song is awkward, and for someone who has been thrown into a role they don't feel equal to, it could be terrifying.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 20, 2020 17:58:10 GMT
Huh. Meanwhile my Lavellan saw that musical scene as still a very touching moment and one that showed hope of better relations and how harmony even with those who disagree is possible. I'd question if that is possible in the long run, without the marginalised cultural groups either getting assimilated or appropriated. Besides, the obsessive-compulse conversion behaviour is strong with andrastians, even if it is not intentional.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Sept 20, 2020 18:11:06 GMT
Huh. Meanwhile my Lavellan saw that musical scene as still a very touching moment and one that showed hope of better relations and how harmony even with those who disagree is possible. I'd question if that is possible in the long run, without the marginalised cultural groups either getting assimilated or appropriated. Besides, the obsessive-compulse conversion behaviour is strong with andrastians, even if it is not intentional. I don't think it is possible, with the way Thedas currently works. And that adds to the poignancy of the Dawn Will Come scene for a mage or a non-human Inquisitor. Any misstep made by them is very likely to be viewed by members of the dominant culture/religion as a reflection on their entire marginalized group, and used to justify further assimilation and/or oppression.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 20, 2020 18:31:59 GMT
Huh. Meanwhile my Lavellan saw that musical scene as still a very touching moment and one that showed hope of better relations and how harmony even with those who disagree is possible. I'd question if that is possible in the long run, without the marginalised cultural groups either getting assimilated or appropriated. Besides, the obsessive-compulse conversion behaviour is strong with andrastians, even if it is not intentional. I'd say it is. Thedas seems to be beginning a shift in beliefs about various things in the past and becoming less the way they were. We saw that with Ferelden regardless of who rules, we see that with Orzammar if Bhelen is king, we see that happen with Orlais if Celene and Briala are chosen, we see that with the Chantry regardless of who is made Divine to varying extents, and we are seeing that with Tevinter with the Lucerni gaining ground. Though I will point out that that behavior you mention isn't exclusive to Andrastians. Last I checked if you want to live with a Dalish clan, you have to be their culture and religion or you're kicked out. Non-Dalish elves aren't "true elves" to them.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 20, 2020 20:20:24 GMT
You know one of the best bits about that scene was what is going on apart from the singers. With my male Lavellan and the CoJ run, Dorian is tending the dying cleric, the only one who is concerned about him, rather than singing to the Herald. I so much prefer Dorian in the CoJ run because you see the real caring person behind the glittering mask he puts up to hide his own inner hurt. To me he is showing far more true Andrastrian faith with his compassion in that scene, particularly when you learn later that everyone rejected him, the blacksmith even spat on him, when he first joined up. That was the moment when my Lavallen felt ashamed of his earlier mistrust simply because he was from Tevinter.
Then there is the look on Solas' face. There is a faint smile there. What is he thinking? Does he approve because he thinks it will help counter the backlash over the orb or is he thinking "This is how it starts." (If the PC has accepted the mantle of Herald Solas can be quite scathing about this later and knowing what happened with the Evanuris who progressed from inspiring leaders to gods, you can see why he feels the way he does).
Then after the singing when I'm alone with Solas. He says: "The humans have not raised one of our people so high for ages beyond counting". I think that is probably the only time I remember him actually identifying himself with the modern elves. I also wonder who he is previously thinking of? Could it be that the humans worshipped Mythal?
Then he warns about the repercussions when the humans discover the orb Corypheus is using is actually elven in origin, particularly as it threatens the heart of the human faith.
I love giving the bottom response: "Even if we defeat Corypheus, eventually they'll find a way to blame the elves." (Solas slightly approves) That whole sequence was what really made me bond with Solas because we both seemed equally sceptical about the adulation. Of course it is also somewhat ironic considering the ancient elf was responsible for the whole mess.
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