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Post by lilyenachaos on Aug 27, 2016 23:00:31 GMT
I agree it's a lot easier to headcanon that each clan has their own variations, because Bioware certainly hasn't been consistent with them. Actually that's probably correct. It's not like the clans are that close, and it's doubtful any of them are using the 'correct' ones anymore. They'd have changed over the years through the clans. Kind of like their history did.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Aug 27, 2016 23:05:12 GMT
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Post by Amburu on Aug 27, 2016 23:27:35 GMT
Wat do u mean "you're obsessed stap" i dun undestnd Edit : oh wait I was almost heading to bed i've already forgotten I've also finished my last artwork
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 27, 2016 23:41:10 GMT
Before I start saying anything thread-relevant I have to mention this; I celebrated a friend's birthday today, and at the party they had this game: This game is like russian roulette but with Bertie Botts Jelly Beans from the Harry Potter books. I was initially fortunate and got to taste buttered popcorn and lime... and then I got one that tasted like REALLY sour milk. The taste was... yeah, Imagine accidentally drinking really old milk and then having it stick to your teeth. Can't remember last time I felt so nauseous (although the rum I drank to get rid of the taste didn't really help)! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So yes, more thread related stuff. I intially picked the vallaslin of June for my Inquisitor, but her face came out all wrong and I decided to scrap her. The next Inky I made (my canon one) looked better with Mythal's vallaslin, so it was purely cosmetic reasons. I can in retrospect feel that Anduril would have been a better pick for her character, but what's done is done. Also, looking at the old vallaslin from DAO I realized that there must be a reason for Elgar'nan's vallaslin to have half the face light and the other dark. Is it supposed to reflect how he defeated the sun and forced it to set every evening? Or is there another possible meaning?
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Post by Aroihkin on Aug 28, 2016 0:02:47 GMT
*flops into new forum* Better late than never? Working on a new art: Alleyana's not getting slowed down by being down an arm. Also she had Elgar'nan's vallaslin, if my current avatar didn't make that apparent lol.
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Post by Sifr on Aug 28, 2016 0:43:27 GMT
Based on DAI's vallaslin, I'd say that the order for the last three should be; Dirthamen, Ghilan'nain and Mythal.The first being Dirthamen is because he is the keeper of secrets and this vallaslin features a book. The second being Ghilan'nain is because it resembles Halla antlers and the simplified version matches the one from Inquisition (albeit much larger) The third being Mythal's is the most difficult to say for certain, as it only vaguely resemble tree branches. The third pattern does however feature a few interesting quirks that could make it Mythal's. The bottom "rung" of the branches we see above the eyes roughly resembles the shape of the crown that Flemeth and Mythal statues sport from DA2 onwards. It's also the style of vallaslin worn by Merrill in DA2, which would serve as nice foreshadowing as she was instrumental in resurrecting Mythal in DA2. It makes the Flemeth's line "Do you know who I am, beyond that title?" even more hilarious in hindsight, as Merrill fails to recognise the very "goddess" who's sigil she has tattooed onto her face. (Also, glad to see you all again! )
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Post by Aroihkin on Aug 28, 2016 2:46:03 GMT
Finished this one: Color done in MS Paint. Here it is on deviant art and tumblr, too. It's the sequel / see how I've improved to this one from 2011.
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Post by renmiri on Aug 28, 2016 3:13:11 GMT
Aww the old thread at BSN has so many poignant last posts.. I'm glad we have a new place, I'd miss your insights, Solas craziness and love
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Post by Garnet on Aug 28, 2016 3:21:36 GMT
QuizzyBunny I recently had a similar experience. It was either coconut or sour milk and it turned out to be the sour milk. Gross! For vallaslin, I usually go with aesthetic reasons too. Elia had Mythal's cheek branches and Nia had Sylaise's eyepatch one. My current Dalish Warden has June's. As for myself, I would say Sylaise is the creator I'd identify most with. (If they weren't known to be a bit crazed/narcissistic.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 4:04:53 GMT
Based on DAI's vallaslin, I'd say that the order for the last three should be; Dirthamen, Ghilan'nain and Mythal.The first being Dirthamen is because he is the keeper of secrets and this vallaslin features a book. The second being Ghilan'nain is because it resembles Halla antlers and the simplified version matches the one from Inquisition (albeit much larger) The third being Mythal's is the most difficult to say for certain, as it only vaguely resemble tree branches. The third pattern does however feature a few interesting quirks that could make it Mythal's. The bottom "rung" of the branches we see above the eyes roughly resembles the shape of the crown that Flemeth and Mythal statues sport from DA2 onwards. It's also the style of vallaslin worn by Merrill in DA2, which would serve as nice foreshadowing as she was instrumental in resurrecting Mythal in DA2. It makes the Flemeth's line "Do you know who I am, beyond that title?" even more hilarious in hindsight, as Merrill fails to recognise the very "goddess" who's sigil she has tattooed onto her face. (Also, glad to see you all again! ) Hmm, I still think the pattern labeled as Mythal above is Mythal's. *pulls on tinfoil *Partly because Flemeth's grimoire was an important clue to her connection with Mythal, and she's associated with wisdom and justice, and partly because I think that the central pillar and upper curlicues not only resemble branches, but the body and arms of a set of scales: Also, in the one labeled Dirthamen I just can't get over the little ears that are on the halla head, so it makes me think it's got to be Ghilan'nain's, as the DA:I pattern has the little ears, too. I'm already pretty deep in the weeds with this, but that's where I'm coming from. XD
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Post by rowrow on Aug 28, 2016 5:23:11 GMT
Just came over from reading the goodbye posts on old BSN. Hi egglovers. Been away for a couple of weeks. Why is everything spelled funny now? Are we talking about vallaslin? I also chose the Mythal pattern because it looked pretty. It made my Inquisitor look like there were tree branches were growing out of her eyebrows and I thought that was awesome. Also I had never played a Dalish before and didn't actually know much about the lore then. Considering what I've learned of them since, I'd probably still keep the Mythal one. (No Solas, you can't have my vallaslin.)
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Post by LliiraAnna on Aug 28, 2016 5:26:55 GMT
The reason I say that different clans have different patterns is because I think this'd be consistent with the lore... it's said that as the clans drift apart, they become more different from each other, even in terms of their culture, so it'd make sense for the vallaslin to change as well.
Re: Elgar'nan: his full vallaslin could refer to day and night, or maybe sky and earth, as both are featured in his myth. Also, just look at all the ink, this must be painful to get.
Re: Velanna's vallaslin: the top part looks like the old "Ghilan'nain" vallaslin, and the bottom one is just a flipped top-down element of the top one, so I'd say the has Ghilan'nain.
Re: Merrill's vallaslin: overall, if not looking at the elements, it reminds me of an over-simplified Mythal vallaslin. Otherwise yes, she has elements of Ghilan'nain, but Mythal would make sense story-wise?
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Post by rowrow on Aug 28, 2016 5:37:20 GMT
OK, I'm caught up on the 'blep mlem mlem' thing now. If that really was the last post on the old forums ... that's kinda glorious.
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Post by rowrow on Aug 28, 2016 5:39:42 GMT
Just came over from reading the goodbye posts on old BSN. Hi egglovers. Been away for a couple of weeks. Why is everything spelled funny now? Are we talking about vallaslin? I also chose the Mythal pattern because it looked pretty. It made my Inquisitor look like there were tree branches were growing out of her eyebrows and I thought that was awesome. Also I had never played a Dalish before and didn't actually know much about the lore then. Considering what I've learned of them since, I'd probably still keep the Mythal one. (No Solas, you can't have my vallaslin.) I guess you missed the joke. The thread dad Solas got in the last post over at the BSN which was "blep mlem mlem". I assume the name will go back to normal eventually. Maybe? I say we keep it!
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 28, 2016 11:45:01 GMT
Another musing about the Evanuris (damn it, I am almost on topic these days!). I found this codex entry on Anduril: Now, the part I find especially interesting is the first part. Bear in mind that this is one of the codex entries found in the Arbor Wilds, so it should date back to around the time of the Evanuris. The part I want to discuss is the first sentence, where it is mentioned that she "grew tired of hunting mortal men and beasts". I thought Solas said all elves were immortal and that only ended with the creation of the Veil? So what mortal men were Anduril hunting? Is it possible that there were humans living in this part of Thedas at the same time? Or what other mortal men did she hunt? Dwarfs are usually not referred to as men, although she probably did fight them with Mythal and the others at one time. Any ideas, or am I over analyzing again?
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Post by LliiraAnna on Aug 28, 2016 11:46:32 GMT
I never paid much attention to the OP before, but now I've actually read it and it's hilarious. I don't even have anything to quote because I'll have to quote the whole thing. It's just -glorious-.
"Modbandits", hah!
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Post by Solas on Aug 28, 2016 11:53:24 GMT
I never paid much attention to the OP before, but now I've actually read it and it's hilarious. I don't even have anything to quote because I'll have to quote the whole thing. It's just -glorious-. "Modbandits", hah!
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Post by Almila_Lavellan on Aug 28, 2016 13:20:26 GMT
I'm a bit late but my favorite vallaslin is Mythal's vallaslin as it is on my avatar Lavellan's face. (my very first Lavellan who romanced Solas ) To be honest I didn't know much about vallaslins until I read it on BSN and searched Dragon Age Wiki. I didn't know that my favorite one was Mythal's when I chose BTW I LOVED the last post on BSN prime. When I first saw I laughed for maybe five minutes and I still laugh when I remember Dad, you're hilarious
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Post by Solas on Aug 28, 2016 13:21:20 GMT
BTW I LOVED the last post on BSN prime. I laughed for maybe five minutes and I still laugh when I remember Dad, you're hilarious blessings be upon u my child
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Post by Aroihkin on Aug 28, 2016 13:47:31 GMT
I like to check in once in a while. Didn't expect to see 'the new' BSN being shut down, le sigh. Perfect last words for the place, though.
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Post by Amburu on Aug 28, 2016 13:51:15 GMT
I like to check in once in a while. Didn't expect to see 'the new' BSN being shut down, le sigh. Perfect last words for the place, though. I have to say I registered to the social network recently (read : this week) and reading the popup about the "brand new" awesome official forum to check out... was kinda painful
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 15:14:43 GMT
Another musing about the Evanuris (damn it, I am almost on topic these days!). I found this codex entry on Anduril: Now, the part I find especially interesting is the first part. Bear in mind that this is one of the codex entries found in the Arbor Wilds, so it should date back to around the time of the Evanuris. The part I want to discuss is the first sentence, where it is mentioned that she "grew tired of hunting mortal men and beasts". I thought Solas said all elves were immortal and that only ended with the creation of the Veil? So what mortal men were Anduril hunting? Is it possible that there were humans living in this part of Thedas at the same time? Or what other mortal men did she hunt? Dwarfs are usually not referred to as men, although she probably did fight them with Mythal and the others at one time. Any ideas, or am I over analyzing again? The elvhen didn't age but they could be killed, I think that's what they mean by being mortal. The Evanuris on the other hand, Solas clues you in had the secret of effective immortality, which is suggested to be stashing a part of your spirit in something else like say a dragon or a locket or an eluvian and being able to reform your body completely intact.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 28, 2016 15:53:53 GMT
What I find weird is not that Anduril could or would kill elves, it's the fact hat the text called them "mortal men". Shouldn't the text simply state that she "grew tired of hunting men and beasts" Why mention mortal at all? The implication is that there were mortal and immortal men (obviously even the immortal could die, Mythal proves that, so presumably the immortality Solas talks about is purely a very long lifespan). So, what I am trying to say (very badly I suspect) is that I see no reason for the text to write "mortal men and beasts" unless they were mortal in the "normal" sense.
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