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Post by Lucinia on Oct 21, 2016 0:34:48 GMT
Does anyone happen to have a screenshot of Solas taking a Lavellan's hand to close the first rift in Inquisition? I'm trying to do something and all I can find is a standard human male Inquisitor and Solas one... Ask and ye shall receive!
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Oct 21, 2016 0:38:13 GMT
Does anyone happen to have a screenshot of Solas taking a Lavellan's hand to close the first rift in Inquisition? I'm trying to do something and all I can find is a standard human male Inquisitor and Solas one... Ask and ye shall receive! I love this thread! Thank you, falon!
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Oct 21, 2016 2:09:27 GMT
Alright, I'm done what I set out to do! So, earlier when ellawyn posted (reposted?) that not so happy song, I thought it was supposed to be a Solas song in regards to Lavellan and it's awful like that. After listening to it/reading the lyrics I decided to go search for happy happy loves songs, even though they would't really fit the SolasxLavellan romance and I came across Beautiful Day by U2 (which I have heard before, but never really heard, if you know what I mean) and it's not actually that positively happy, but it felt like a good SolasxLavellan song to me (minus its modern, this world references). It being a Lavellan song in regards to Solas. I was just going to post the song and the lyrics, but I decided to take this opportunity to wander through Devianart (and some Google images) and pick artworks that fit the lyrics. You know, something a talented, technologically adapt not procrastinator person might do in a movie maker! The heart is a bloom Shoots up through the stony ground There's no room No space to rent in this town StefTastanYou're out of luck And the reason that you had to care The traffic is stuck And you're not moving anywhere katoriusYou thought you'd found a friend To take you out of this place Someone you could lend a hand In return for grace LuciniaIt's a beautiful day Sky falls, you feel like It's a beautiful day Don't let it get away slugetteYou're on the road But you've got no destination You're in the mud In the maze of her imagination shalizehYou're lovin' this town Even if that doesn't ring true You've been all over And it's been all over you KenuIt's a beautiful day Don't let it get away It's a beautiful day SmilikaTouch me Take me to that other place Teach me I know I'm not a hopeless case SabalmirssSee the world in green and blue See China right in front of you See the canyons broken by cloud See the tuna fleets clearing the sea out LavellanLoveSee the Bedouin fires at night See the oil fields at first light And see the bird with a leaf in her mouth After the flood all the colors came out aimoIt was a beautiful day Don't let it get away Beautiful day hyperionwitchTouch me Take me to that other place Reach me I know I'm not a hopeless case pinselohrWhat you don't have you don't need it now What you don't know you can feel it somehow What you don't have you don't need it now Don't need it now Was a beautiful day shalizeh7It was really difficult to narrow the fan art's down to what I wanted to use-- they were all incredible! I need to go Fade walking through fan art more often! ...though surfing through feet in devianart can get kind of weird.
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Post by morir_a_solas on Oct 21, 2016 3:28:50 GMT
I'm working on a Felassan FixIt fic It's no where near ready to post yet, I want to at least get the complete first draft done so I don't have any glaring holes that keep me from regular updates. It will ofc end up far from canon, but that is the point of a fixit fic right? I have a new Lavellan character and my OC Cara will also be part of the story. Best Wlf needs to have more of a roll than what TME gave him. Welcome back NeverlandHunter glad you found us! Thank you, Theneras! It sucks that so many people love Felassan so much and he'll probably only ever officially be in that one book. It almost sounds like a waste of a good character! But hey, that's why we have fanfiction! Speaking of which, what's a fixit fic? A fanfiction where the author writes a happy ending? And what does ofc stand for? I will forever be outside of the new phrases, abbreviations, and words club! Oh Felassan is awesome! I red TME before playing DAI (cause I was late to the party) and because of what happened I thought we were gonna get to fight the badass Dread Wolf in DAI and was a little disappointed he wasn't in the game at all (...) but I'm curious if anyone else did too, or did everyone play the game first?
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Post by CapricornSun on Oct 21, 2016 5:50:57 GMT
Thank you, Theneras! It sucks that so many people love Felassan so much and he'll probably only ever officially be in that one book. It almost sounds like a waste of a good character! But hey, that's why we have fanfiction! Speaking of which, what's a fixit fic? A fanfiction where the author writes a happy ending? And what does ofc stand for? I will forever be outside of the new phrases, abbreviations, and words club! Oh Felassan is awesome! I red TME before playing DAI (cause I was late to the party) and because of what happened I thought we were gonna get to fight the badass Dread Wolf in DAI and was a little disappointed he wasn't in the game at all (...) but I'm curious if anyone else did too, or did everyone play the game first? I played the game first before reading TME and so I never heard of Felassan until I arrived on BSN (the old one) after I first ended DA:I with my Solasmancing Lavellan. Then people on the (old) Solas thread kept talking about Felassan and TME and that's what got me curious and intrigued about the character and made me buy the book.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Oct 21, 2016 10:41:22 GMT
'Red Ribbons of Fate'- *grabs scissors* Cole needs to learn what not to share- Lavellan's face on the last panel! Teen DA team!- Ah, Vivienne is that girl in school! Her flawless ability to get top marks, do a ton of after school activities/volunteering, while still being friends with all the teachers and other popular kids, left me the average person filled with jealousy and the want for her to take notice of youuu. Cole in the background . Josephine is sooo cute being a little more awkward than the Josephine we know. Cullen, hahaha, awww, same for him! Elves and elves and Hawke - Haha, I wonder if Zevran or Fenris said something to make Solas turn away from them? And why is Fenris looking at his hand? Did Zevran make a comment about his phasing ability ?
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Post by phoray on Oct 21, 2016 13:34:45 GMT
'Red Ribbons of Fate'- *grabs scissors* Cole needs to learn what not to share- Lavellan's face on the last panel! Teen DA team!- Ah, Vivienne is that girl in school! Her flawless ability to get top marks, do a ton of after school activities/volunteering, while still being friends with all the teachers and other popular kids, left me the average person filled with jealousy and the want for her to take notice of youuu. Cole in the background . Josephine is sooo cute being a little more awkward than the Josephine we know. Cullen, hahaha, awww, same for him! Elves and elves and Hawke - Haha, I wonder if Zevran or Fenris said something to make Solas turn away from them? And why is Fenris looking at his hand? Did Zevran make a comment about his phasing ability ? I thought Zevran was laughing at the "in love" ribbon.
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Post by NightSymphony on Oct 21, 2016 14:16:31 GMT
Random: Look at renmiri's new avatar picture. It's so cute!!!
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Post by mechalynx on Oct 21, 2016 19:44:03 GMT
gervaise21 Pretty much what you said, with one more reason for me - I believe that Solas knows fuck all about what he's doing. Just look at his previous attempts. Raised the Veil? Screwed his people. Gave his orb to Corypheus? An ancient darkspawn nearly destroys the world. Not what I would call a trail of successes. I think he should leave saving the world to someone else, before he screws up even further. Nice of him to warn us about the Qunari warmongering. Although, looking from his point of view, that too may come back and bite him in that finely shaped butt. I hope to hell there's a dialogue option for the next protagonist akin to: "So, how'd that work out for you?" after a thorough curb stomping. I'd pick that even with Lavellan, 'cause she sure deserves some gloating. How'd his plan with the Qunari fail? Seems like it went off pretty fine to me. He got the Inquisition to take care of the Qunari and got to remove the mark from the Inquisitor. I'm not seeing how that went wrong at all. Unless you mean that it led to the Inquisiton finding out about his plans and vowing to stop him, in which case you only learn about all of that because he... told you. Like he just straight up told you. Either because he believes you deserve to know or because he wants someone to oppose him, but either way, I don't see anything that went wrong there. I didn't say it failed yet. But all things point to it not working out the way he intends it to. And whatever his reasons may be for telling the Inquisitor, be it because he thinks you should, or that he hopes you'll talk him out of it, he's not currently stepping away from nuking the world. Of course he didn't count on Corypheus succeeding, his plan was that the orb would kill the magister. That is why I said that that plan was a bust. Also, people died, directly or indirectly (I say the former, but I can understand those who disagree) because of his actions Not complaining about the Veil at all. No Veil - no world of Thedas as we know it. No Warden Commander Cousland. I'm just saying that so far Solas's best laid plans have yet to work out for him.
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Post by Amburu on Oct 21, 2016 21:25:23 GMT
Too overwhelmed by life to catch up but here have my last inktober i love it greatly
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Post by melbella on Oct 22, 2016 0:59:16 GMT
Elves and elves and Hawke - Haha, I wonder if Zevran or Fenris said something to make Solas turn away from them? And why is Fenris looking at his hand? Did Zevran make a comment about his phasing ability ? He's possibly contemplating using it to make Zevran stop laughing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 5:28:55 GMT
@theloneshadow Can you please take this to the politics thread. I don't like coming to my fun place and having to look at anything that has to do with this election. It's very upsetting to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 5:42:53 GMT
@theloneshadow Can you please take this to the politics thread. I don't like coming to my fun place and having to look at anything that has to do with this election. It's very upsetting to me. Sorry, I didn't see it as political. I thought it was funny.
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Post by NightSymphony on Oct 22, 2016 14:12:35 GMT
hehehe..Solas makes a fabulous Sesshomaru!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 17:19:06 GMT
*Looks back through the last 3 pages* I'm so confused. There was something political posted? I think some people's posts are missing Edit: Oh you can delete posts, suppose that's what happened.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 17:36:54 GMT
*Looks back through the last 3 pages* I'm so confused. There was something political posted? I think some people's posts are missing theloneshadow posted some photoshopped images of Solas on Donald Trump's body, and they kindly deleted them. I get that some people find this amusing, but the election has been having real effects on my blood pressure and mental health. I'd rather not have things related to the candidates brought into the place I go to get away from them and their rhetoric. Solas is an antagonist, but he is fictional and a lot easier to deal with. Also, there is a lively political discussion going on in off-topic, where I'm sure such images would be more than welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 17:53:55 GMT
Missed the last discussion on mistakes and Veil goodness (always miss the best ones ) But it brought up something interesting that I do not believe anyone elaborated on. At what level did the world/civilization need to be in danger before the Veil would have been the justified option? At what level does the world need to be broken before its removal is okay in your book? Honestly even if the Blight wasn't about to consume Thedas, the Veil was a damn fine time-out box. You have mages pretending to be Gods and making Thedas their personal playpen. So even if it was just a temporary fix, they needed to be put on ice until an equally powerful body could be found to combat them. And I know many are on the side of peaceful resolution or mitigation of loss, but sometimes that just isn't an option. Veil gone or Veil permanent, I see these as the realistic and only outcomes to the DA universe. Opinion wise, Veil is coming down and I want to play as a protagonist who makes sure it happens. Neutral PCs were always my favorite to play as and this is a perfect example. Natural state of the world restored and balance having a chance to return regardless of the sacrifice such an act will likely demand.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 18:08:06 GMT
theloneshadow posted some photoshopped images of Solas on Donald Trump's body, and they kindly deleted them. I get that some people find this amusing, but the election has been having real effects on my blood pressure and mental health. I'd rather not have things related to the candidates brought into the place I go to get away from them and their rhetoric. Solas is an antagonist, but he is fictional and a lot easier to deal with. Also, there is a lively political discussion going on in off-topic, where I'm sure such images would be more than welcome. Ah okay. I believe I saw that then in the meme section. Understandable. Where I did not personally have a problem with it, perhaps things like that post can be Spoilered then with a warning line above for those not interested. I only say that because this is a Solas thread and there is always going to be something that not all agree with (let's face it, the guy is such a shade of grey that it allows for hate all the way to love of the character) Yes, the majority of posters here are Solasmancers but the thing that drew me to the thread in the first place was that there were times I could find the full spectrum of Solas debate. I would hate to see that dwindle because some would fear that their comment/post wouldn't be welcome because it would offend/sadden certain individuals (I mean they aren't doing it on purpose, just providing an adult discussion. Trolls are a different matter and I do not mean them). Hope that didn't sound dickish, not meaning it that way. Internet makes things hard
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 22, 2016 19:02:58 GMT
Regarding your point about at what stage would the Veil have been justified, Solas himself seems to change his stance on this issue. Initially he says it is because the Evanuris murdered Mythal and he wanted to shut them away as punishment because he couldn't be sure he could kill them, plus he seems to think eternal imprisonment a much better punishment than simply killing them. According to this version of his motivations, he didn't seem to have a problem with the existing world so long as Mythal was around to keep the gods in order. Remember that she was also an Evanuris whose followers were marked with vallaslin, so if they were slave markings, then she kept slaves and yet Solas apparently didn't have a problem with serving her. He also admits after the WEWH ball that he found the intrigue and power play of the Orlesian court something of a turn on, so may be he felt the same way back in the old days of the Evanuris. So saying he did it to free the elven people seems a justification after the event and his true motivation was revenge over Mythal, which would account for his guilt as he destroyed his civilisation simply for the sake of vengeance.
Then he says that he shut them away because otherwise they would have destroyed the world. This would seem a better justification for action but hardly something to feel guilty about because if the world would have ended anyway, then inadvertently destroying the elven civilisation was a by-product of saving the entire world. Either way the elves would have suffered but at least with the Veil they survived. The problem with this motivation is that instead of sticking around to aid the transition, he immediately became horrified by the effect of what he had done and went back to sleep with the purpose of recovering his power so he could reverse it. It would seem that certain ancient elves seemed in the know about his plans as well since they also slept through the millennia, presumably awaiting his return. Meanwhile, other elves made the best of a dire situation but unaware of Solas' future intent started to live normal lives, reproducing and making the best they could of it, "to the inevitable and troubling freedom we are committed". Then Solas and the other ancient elves disown them as true elves and don't seem to think they merit consideration when making plans. They are clearly not the people he is trying to save.
As for dropping the Veil again, he was rather sparse on the information of why this is necessary. He wants to restore the world of the elves, but the world has moved on and many more elves (the modern ones) will suffer by his actions than he will save (old ones). The political systems currently in operation around Thedas for the most part stink but he has the knowledge and power to change that without destroying the world in the process. Deprived of a direct connection to the Fade, the Crossroads are breaking down and it may be that they will be lost without action on his part. Is this really sufficient reason to destroy everything? There is also the possibility that the discovery of red lyrium had released the very thing that he sought to prevent in shutting away the Evanuris, except it can hardly be the reason since raising the Veil did not permanently lock it away. Or was it the action of the Magisters, led by Corypheus, that allowed both the Blight and Red Lyrium to escape into the world? Still, if that was the case, then both existed before the Veil, so how is lowering the Veil going to make things any better?
This is why I find it hard to get my head around exactly what Solas is trying to achieve with his plan, apart from a lot of death and destruction, plus the release of the very beings he thought deserved to be shut away forever no matter what the cost. If we could understand why it was necessary, then presumably it might be easier to work out how to dissuade him but he declined to tell us (because presumably spoilers for future games) even though this made no sense if he did want us to stop him (deep down) and thus very difficult to know how to redeem him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 20:56:09 GMT
I do not think Solas had a choice in whether to stick around after the Veil's construction or not. Regardless of how much or little he prepared for it, something that intricate would knock you on your ass and I believe it is implied he was forced to sleep afterwards. The argument could be made that he should have tried helping while in the Fade, but who knows if he was in a state where he could do that and didn't need to recuperate enough to be able to nudge himself into people's dreams. Well we know that either before Mythal's death or after, Solas was running around removing vallaslins. So at some point he was no longer on board with slavery and oppression. Through banter we see that he doesn't support anything that would trample on a person's freewill. Solas is super calculating and very much enjoys challenges, of course he would like court intrigue, it's the ultimate play of mind games and mental finesse. Doesn't mean he is all for the corruption and injustice that comes with it, more like he can enjoy the 'simple pageantry' it represents.
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