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Hey, threadad. We going to lose you to the ME side?
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Post by rowrow on Nov 9, 2016 7:49:54 GMT
Hey egglovers. I've been away for long enough I'm not even going to bother trying to catch up.
First of all, anybody who needs a hug right now, have a big one, from me. {{{{ you }}}}}
So, what's happening in the BioSphere? I gather the Andromeda marketing is starting proper?
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Post by rowrow on Nov 9, 2016 8:06:51 GMT
Anyway, new question time - what do you think your Inquisitor's relationship was with the companions in general? I saw a post earlier on Tumblr saying that by Trespasser, the Inquisitor has "clearly" befriended all of her companions and they all care for her as deeply as a family would, and all I could think was "Lol nope, that's not how it went with my Inquisitor at all." I at least, freely headcanon my Inquisitor as having pretty apathetic acquaintances with some of the companions (Namely Blackwall and Sera.) friendly but distant relationships with... nearly everyone else, and then actual friendship with Cassandra, Josephine, and of course Solas. I have to admit, one thing that bothers me in fics is when the Inner Circle is portrayed as the Inky's huge family rather than a slapdash collection of coworkers who don't necessarily care for each other or their boss. Maybe because the game, IMO, didn't go a great job of making you feel like you really got to know your companions, or maybe because the feeling of having such a large group of close friends/family is unfamiliar to me personally. My Lavellan considered most of the followers 'family' of a sort - comrades, I suppose. People who would die for each other but not necessarily spend a lot of time with each other socially. Well, all except Vivienne. But my Quizzy kept that to herself. She was genuinely close friends with Cassandra, Solas, Varric and (with some ambivalence at times) Leliana. Casual friends with Cullen and Josie. Comfortable but not super-close friends with Dorian. Mostly got along with Bull, slightly less with Sera. Had a genuine soft spot for Blackwell. And for Cole, who wasn't so much a friend as ... a strange ward/brother/friend combo. Save
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Post by ellawyn on Nov 9, 2016 9:24:08 GMT
Hey egglovers. I've been away for long enough I'm not even going to bother trying to catch up. First of all, anybody who needs a hug right now, have a big one, from me. {{{{ you }}}}} So, what's happening in the BioSphere? I gather the Andromeda marketing is starting proper? MEA hype is starting up, yeah, but at the moment it's mainly a bunch of cinematic trailers that show off no gameplay, story, or companions and just make vaguely epic sounding statements about nothing. Typical empty PR babble, really. "More words than the last game!" "Will change the way you experience BioWare!" Blah blah blah. Not much substantial yet. Anyway, new question time - what do you think your Inquisitor's relationship was with the companions in general? I saw a post earlier on Tumblr saying that by Trespasser, the Inquisitor has "clearly" befriended all of her companions and they all care for her as deeply as a family would, and all I could think was "Lol nope, that's not how it went with my Inquisitor at all." I at least, freely headcanon my Inquisitor as having pretty apathetic acquaintances with some of the companions (Namely Blackwall and Sera.) friendly but distant relationships with... nearly everyone else, and then actual friendship with Cassandra, Josephine, and of course Solas. I have to admit, one thing that bothers me in fics is when the Inner Circle is portrayed as the Inky's huge family rather than a slapdash collection of coworkers who don't necessarily care for each other or their boss. Maybe because the game, IMO, didn't go a great job of making you feel like you really got to know your companions, or maybe because the feeling of having such a large group of close friends/family is unfamiliar to me personally. My Lavellan considered most of the followers 'family' of a sort - comrades, I suppose. People who would die for each other but not necessarily spend a lot of time with each other socially. Well, all except Vivienne. But my Quizzy kept that to herself. She was genuinely close friends with Cassandra, Solas, Varric and (with some ambivalence at times) Leliana. Casual friends with Cullen and Josie. Comfortable but not super-close friends with Dorian. Mostly got along with Bull, slightly less with Sera. Had a genuine soft spot for Blackwell. And for Cole, who wasn't so much a friend as ... a strange ward/brother/friend combo. SaveYou know, I understand the Vivienne hate, I do think she was a very static character with some very inflammatory and hypocritical opinions and a poorly-written companion quest. But nonetheless, I liked her. She had class.... not much else besides that, though. It's weird how much they built her up pre-release, when she turned out to be pretty irrelevant and somewhat poorly handled. I don't think my Lavellan was great friends with her. I think she probably just awkwardly drifted through that spa scene, and never in a million years was she going to tell Vivienne what she really felt about Solas. But I don't think she really hated Vivienne either. Probably thought it'd be a good idea to steer clear of a woman who's so obviously used to being in charge, though. In the end I think they just didn't really interact much. ...Well, I mean, I saw Vivienne's max approval scene but like with Dorian I don't feel like my Inquisitor did enough to deserve that level of affection.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Nov 9, 2016 9:38:17 GMT
Vivienne really needed some diplomatic quests or something that made her more relevant and useful. Especially to make up for that personality.
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Post by rowrow on Nov 9, 2016 10:00:16 GMT
My Lavellan considered most of the followers 'family' of a sort - comrades, I suppose. People who would die for each other but not necessarily spend a lot of time with each other socially. Well, all except Vivienne. But my Quizzy kept that to herself. She was genuinely close friends with Cassandra, Solas, Varric and (with some ambivalence at times) Leliana. Casual friends with Cullen and Josie. Comfortable but not super-close friends with Dorian. Mostly got along with Bull, slightly less with Sera. Had a genuine soft spot for Blackwell. And for Cole, who wasn't so much a friend as ... a strange ward/brother/friend combo. SaveYou know, I understand the Vivienne hate, I do think she was a very static character with some very inflammatory and hypocritical opinions and a poorly-written companion quest. But nonetheless, I liked her. She had class.... not much else besides that, though. It's weird how much they built her up pre-release, when she turned out to be pretty irrelevant and somewhat poorly handled. I don't think my Lavellan was great friends with her. I think she probably just awkwardly drifted through that spa scene, and never in a million years was she going to tell Vivienne what she really felt about Solas. But I don't think she really hated Vivienne either. Probably thought it'd be a good idea to steer clear of a woman who's so obviously used to being in charge, though. In the end I think they just didn't really interact much. ...Well, I mean, I saw Vivienne's max approval scene but like with Dorian I don't feel like my Inquisitor did enough to deserve that level of affection. Yes, Vivienne could be pleasant when she cared to be, as well as a team player. Classy, as you say. On any given day if my Inquisitor had to take either Viv or Sera somewhere she would probably have chosen Vivienne. But my Inquisitor was never not wary around her. I think she enjoyed working with her somewhat, when there was stuff to be done. But I can't say she ever felt anything approaching 'friendly' towards Vivienne. I don't think I even remember Vivienne's max approval scene. It's possible I didn't get it, though I did the snowy wyvern quest and all.
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Post by rowrow on Nov 9, 2016 10:01:52 GMT
Vivienne really need some diplomatic quests or something that made her more relevant and useful. Especially to make up for that personality. I thought she'd have more to do on that front myself. Some juicy intrigues and all.
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Post by Elessara on Nov 9, 2016 13:30:12 GMT
Vivienne really need some diplomatic quests or something that made her more relevant and useful. Especially to make up for that personality. I thought she'd have more to do on that front myself. Some juicy intrigues and all. It's kind of amusing just how irrelevant Vivienne was to the game when being irrelevant is, apparently, her greatest fear. Edit: Grrr ToP! I knew I shouldn't have posted anything!
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Post by Sifr on Nov 9, 2016 14:45:21 GMT
Uh... yes, Abelas TOTALLY says that: exactly when he makes a distinction between calling Sera and modern Inky "people with elf features" and Solas "one of his own". I don't really understand how can it can be claimed otherwise, but alright - I don't think I can do anything else to point out the difference. Yeah, it's blatantly obvious (at least in my opinion) that Abelas recognises that Solas is an Ancient Elf throughout that scene, based on the patience and respect he seems to show him, rather than the stern disregard he reserves for Sera and Lavellan. Since there seem to be no physical distinctions between Ancient and Modern Elves (that we can tell), my suspicion is that Abelas recognised Solas as being "one of his own" because of the manner in which he spoke and the way he carries himself... subtle body language and mannerisms that he recognises from the time of Elvhenan, but which Sera and Lavellan don't demonstrate. Abelas and Solas' refusal to view their modern descendants as even being "Elvhen", reminds me of a similar event in Doctor Who, where the Tenth Doctor was likewise offended by the very notion that Jenny (a female clone based on his DNA) could be considered a Time Lord. Even the rebukes both characters give when this is brought up is extremely similar; ""Our" people? The ones we see in the forest, shadows wearing vallaslin? You are not my people." "You are an echo, that's all. A Time Lord is so much more. A sum of knowledge, a code. A shared history, a shared suffering."But yeah, my money is that Abelas picked up on Solas being an Ancient Elf from clues in his body language and mannerisms. If you know what to look for, it's not difficult to figure out where someone grew up or spent considerable time in, based on certain idiosyncratic cultural tics and mannerisms unique to those locations or groups of people. Stuff like that is how Bull could spot a Vint spy posing as a merchant in a town they passed through, due to his body language and how he'd slipped up by tying his knots in a Tevinter-style. (But aye, let's put this to particular discussion back to bed...)
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 9, 2016 16:30:04 GMT
I thought she'd have more to do on that front myself. Some juicy intrigues and all. It's kind of amusing just how irrelevant Vivienne was to the game when being irrelevant is, apparently, her greatest fear. I sort of look at it differently - epilogue in Trespasser shows that whatever we do, she STAYS relevant. It does seem that whatever we'd do, she'd either be divine or a leader of rebuilt Circle - even in world-states where we didn't pick her us as a companion. Her position (which in many ways is similar to that of Dorian or Inky) also likely means that we'd either see her reprise a role that would be significant in SOME way, even if it'd be a role off-screen.
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Post by Elessara on Nov 9, 2016 17:15:46 GMT
It's kind of amusing just how irrelevant Vivienne was to the game when being irrelevant is, apparently, her greatest fear. I sort of look at it differently - epilogue in Trespasser shows that whatever we do, she STAYS relevant. It does seem that whatever we'd do, she'd either be divine or a leader of rebuilt Circle - even in world-states where we didn't pick her us as a companion. Her position (which in many ways is similar to that of Dorian or Inky) also likely means that we'd either see her reprise a role that would be significant in SOME way, even if it'd be a role off-screen. Then perhaps I should amend what I said and say that FOR ME her presence or lack thereof in the Inquisition was irrelevant. The one quest I thought she might actually be helpful on (Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts), she had nothing special. I barely remembered to speak to her in Skyhold. If she hadn't been there, I wouldn't have missed her. Whatever she does after Inquisition, we likely won't see except maybe as a codex entry, especially if we're going to be in Tevinter. A high approval Vivienne had no character growth or introspection. A low approval Vivienne ... re-arranged your furniture. Of all of the companions, I found her to be the most easily forgettable and the only one I really considered just not bothering with. So (again, FOR MYSELF) I found her very irrelevant to DAI and it amuses me that her greatest fear is being irrelevant.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 9, 2016 17:51:49 GMT
I sort of look at it differently - epilogue in Trespasser shows that whatever we do, she STAYS relevant. It does seem that whatever we'd do, she'd either be divine or a leader of rebuilt Circle - even in world-states where we didn't pick her us as a companion. Her position (which in many ways is similar to that of Dorian or Inky) also likely means that we'd either see her reprise a role that would be significant in SOME way, even if it'd be a role off-screen. Then perhaps I should amend what I said and say that FOR ME her presence or lack thereof in the Inquisition was irrelevant. The one quest I thought she might actually be helpful on (Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts), she had nothing special. I barely remembered to speak to her in Skyhold. If she hadn't been there, I wouldn't have missed her. Whatever she does after Inquisition, we likely won't see except maybe as a codex entry, especially if we're going to be in Tevinter. A high approval Vivienne had no character growth or introspection. A low approval Vivienne ... re-arranged your furniture. Of all of the companions, I found her to be the most easily forgettable and the only one I really considered just not bothering with. So (again, FOR MYSELF) I found her very irrelevant to DAI and it amuses me that her greatest fear is being irrelevant. I get what you're saying, but I think Vivienne's comment about it is that she doesn't care whether she's relevant for (general) you. She cares for being relevant in Thedas, not necessarily relevant for the plot of story that we see unveiling before our eyes. I mean, even Laidlaw chimed in once and said that Vivienne isn't there for the sake of personal growth, but to present a different side/perspective on mages issue. If looked at that this way I think it could be pretty safely said that she's succeeded - likely whether we helped her through Inquisition or not she's secured enough of political power for her to be relevant in matters she finds important. The problem with that, for me, seems to me is that Vivienne is on a losing side of history, as she was likely always meant to be. She wants to maintain the status quo in Southern Thedas, while I think that beast is meant to be slayed, no matter what happens with Solas and "Tear The Veil!" project.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Nov 9, 2016 20:20:01 GMT
Then perhaps I should amend what I said and say that FOR ME her presence or lack thereof in the Inquisition was irrelevant. The one quest I thought she might actually be helpful on (Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts), she had nothing special. I barely remembered to speak to her in Skyhold. If she hadn't been there, I wouldn't have missed her. Whatever she does after Inquisition, we likely won't see except maybe as a codex entry, especially if we're going to be in Tevinter. A high approval Vivienne had no character growth or introspection. A low approval Vivienne ... re-arranged your furniture. Of all of the companions, I found her to be the most easily forgettable and the only one I really considered just not bothering with. So (again, FOR MYSELF) I found her very irrelevant to DAI and it amuses me that her greatest fear is being irrelevant. I get what you're saying, but I think Vivienne's comment about it is that she doesn't care whether she's relevant for (general) you. She cares for being relevant in Thedas, not necessarily relevant for the plot of story that we see unveiling before our eyes. I mean, even Laidlaw chimed in once and said that Vivienne isn't there for the sake of personal growth, but to present a different side/perspective on mages issue. If looked at that this way I think it could be pretty safely said that she's succeeded - likely whether we helped her through Inquisition or not she's secured enough of political power for her to be relevant in matters she finds important. The problem with that, for me, seems to me is that Vivienne is on a losing side of history, as she was likely always meant to be. She wants to maintain the status quo in Southern Thedas, while I think that beast is meant to be slayed, no matter what happens with Solas and "Tear The Veil!" project. Agreed, the status quo Circle system is akin to swooping.
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Post by phoray on Nov 9, 2016 20:47:54 GMT
First time I played, it was Cole/Solas/Blackwall or Cass. I watched those other scenes with the other characters, especially liked talking to Cassandra abotu being a female leader/hero, but those first three had the most impact. Viv? First companion quest I ever refused to do. She was too mean to Cole. But, if she hadn't been, maybe I wouldn't have felt protective of him enough to connect.
2nd time is deleted now, but I somehow managed to get Viv's max approval scene and was kinda like...wait, we're friends? When did THAT happen? Because her whole companion quest felt more like... super awkward? Like I infringed on a super emotional private moment.
3rd time I played, I really really connected to Sera and Dorian. And, through some thinking and a different approach, found some more...human characteristics to appreciate of Viv. For one, she supported Cass as Divine, even though I thought she was too power hungry to do such a thing. She's very frightened of the New World Shift that has occurred. On top of that, her ticket to freedom and political power is dying/died. If she doesn't sink her claws in to a new person that matters, or becomes Divine herself, she will become irrelevant.
But the whole cast as my Quiz's new family? No. Varric belongs to Hawke, although he can be a good friend. Same for Cass, Cullen, and Jose. Iron Bull's family is the Chargers, you're just his boss for a little while. He'll probably look back on the whole time as where he got paid to be a hero- a win win situation. Same for Blackwall, minus the pay. Viv is emotionally stunted.
It's great to have options, but I almost felt overwhelmed by the sheer number of people I had to talk to. And they ALL have some cause to go take care of, so it's not like you'd run into them around town. I think DA2 has the closest cast, to be honest, but I know a lot of people disagree with me on that point.
It's also possible your head cannoned Origin may bleed through. The Trevelyan origin has siblings or an entire Circle they grew up with. Lavellan has a clan I imagine they are devoted to. Adaar? Probably a forced loner, maybe they could feel adopted by the group. Perhaps the same for a Cadash.
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Post by Elessara on Nov 9, 2016 21:01:32 GMT
<snip> 3rd time I played, I really really connected to Sera and Dorian. And, through some thinking and a different approach, found some more...human characteristics to appreciate of Viv. For one, she supported Cass as Divine, even though I thought she was too power hungry to do such a thing. She's very frightened of the New World Shift that has occurred. On top of that, her ticket to freedom and political power is dying/died. If she doesn't sink her claws in to a new person that matters, or becomes Divine herself, she will become irrelevant. <snip> The thing to remember about Vivienne is that she's always playing the Game. She *says* she supports Cassandra because Cassandra is more traditional but then points out that Cassandra lacks the necessary mindset for politics. Vivienne is trying to plant the idea about supporting herself as Divine. She's also trying to get you to think it was your idea instead of coming right out and saying it because that would be too blunt and crude.
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Post by phoray on Nov 9, 2016 22:06:36 GMT
<snip> 3rd time I played, I really really connected to Sera and Dorian. And, through some thinking and a different approach, found some more...human characteristics to appreciate of Viv. For one, she supported Cass as Divine, even though I thought she was too power hungry to do such a thing. She's very frightened of the New World Shift that has occurred. On top of that, her ticket to freedom and political power is dying/died. If she doesn't sink her claws in to a new person that matters, or becomes Divine herself, she will become irrelevant. <snip> The thing to remember about Vivienne is that she's always playing the Game. She *says* she supports Cassandra because Cassandra is more traditional but then points out that Cassandra lacks the necessary mindset for politics. Vivienne is trying to plant the idea about supporting herself as Divine. She's also trying to get you to think it was your idea instead of coming right out and saying it because that would be too blunt and crude. Wow. It worked in tricking me then, and she failed totally at her goal. The way the conversation went was like... Viv: So, Cass is slated for the next Divine. She doesn't exactly have the head for politics, so we'll have to support her. Me: *pleasantly shocked* Why yes, but Cass is the best option. So I'm glad she has your support. Viv: Absolutely. We'll make sure she does well. Was she inwardly seething that her prompt didn't trick me into considering her?
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Post by Elessara on Nov 9, 2016 22:41:22 GMT
The thing to remember about Vivienne is that she's always playing the Game. She *says* she supports Cassandra because Cassandra is more traditional but then points out that Cassandra lacks the necessary mindset for politics. Vivienne is trying to plant the idea about supporting herself as Divine. She's also trying to get you to think it was your idea instead of coming right out and saying it because that would be too blunt and crude. Wow. It worked in tricking me then, and she failed totally at her goal. The way the conversation went was like... Viv: So, Cass is slated for the next Divine. She doesn't exactly have the head for politics, so we'll have to support her. Me: *pleasantly shocked* Why yes, but Cass is the best option. So I'm glad she has your support. Viv: Absolutely. We'll make sure she does well. Was she inwardly seething that her prompt didn't trick me into considering her? Vivienne says that the candidate needs to have grace, charm and a will of solid steel and Cassandra lacked the first two but unless you could think of someone better (hint, hint) then Cass was the best choice. If you ask who other than Leliana or Cassandra could be candidates, Vivienne suggests looking in the Imperial Court (pretty sure Vivienne is still technically Enchanter to the Imperial Court). If you ask Vivienne what her idea of the best Divine would do, she'll say that oh that person will have to restore the Circles and the Templar Order (which of course Vivienne would do herself). And then after this conversation (whether you suggest Vivienne as Divine or not) the war table mission to support her as Divine pops up.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 9, 2016 23:29:59 GMT
<snip> 3rd time I played, I really really connected to Sera and Dorian. And, through some thinking and a different approach, found some more...human characteristics to appreciate of Viv. For one, she supported Cass as Divine, even though I thought she was too power hungry to do such a thing. She's very frightened of the New World Shift that has occurred. On top of that, her ticket to freedom and political power is dying/died. If she doesn't sink her claws in to a new person that matters, or becomes Divine herself, she will become irrelevant. <snip> The thing to remember about Vivienne is that she's always playing the Game. She *says* she supports Cassandra because Cassandra is more traditional but then points out that Cassandra lacks the necessary mindset for politics. Vivienne is trying to plant the idea about supporting herself as Divine. She's also trying to get you to think it was your idea instead of coming right out and saying it because that would be too blunt and crude. Yeah, that was a blatant attempt at manipulation. I don't mind it though. In my main play-through I mostly imagine it as a moment where my Inky knew perfectly well what she was attempting to do and played her games till it suited her - at that point in the game she is friends with Viviene anyhow, so that doesn't do much aside from maxing her approval, BUT... in a situation when an Inky needs, it her Great Approval might push her to gain us a friendship scene, which actually improves Inquisiton's standing in Orlais and in the Chantry. After all, Vivienne's full-scale endorsement comes not only with an enchanted ring, but also promise from Vivienne to lend her talents to help Inquisition in fullness as well as personal access to highly influential figures in the Chantry and Orlesian court. So yeah, my main Inky plays her games, only to eventually push Leliana as a Divine I headcanon that Viv doesn't mind it as much as she could though - she has a very particular relationship with my Inky or two, where both are divided by great many things, but respect their shrewdness, level-headedness and ability to play political games to a point where they work well together.
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Post by Solas on Nov 9, 2016 23:30:55 GMT
I am still here friendos, just andromeding
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Post by Elessara on Nov 10, 2016 1:44:41 GMT
I am still here friendos, just andromeding My interest in Andromeda is growing. Can't say I'm particularly *hyped* but I'm definitely interested.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 10, 2016 2:27:47 GMT
I am still here friendos, just andromeding My interest in Andromeda is growing. Can't say I'm particularly *hyped* but I'm definitely interested. Welp, I am sort of vaguely interested with Andromeda (not sure i'll pick it up yet), but my enthusiasm or curiosity about any upcoming releases has seriously eroded since yesterday... Anyway, I suppose it depends what will happen till 'spring 2017' and how busy I'd be with anything else. I usually don't pick preorders and will likely wait for opinions of people who played MEA to see if it's actually worth picking. Not even because I don't have faith in Bioware or anything, but I generally stick to 'wait and see' buyer plan, especially that I'm unsure if shooters are my kind of games and the only 'shooter-like' game I've played so far till completion was Portal 2, LOL.
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Post by rowrow on Nov 10, 2016 3:36:26 GMT
My interest in Andromeda is growing. Can't say I'm particularly *hyped* but I'm definitely interested. Welp, I am sort of vaguely interested by Andromeda (not sure i'll pick it up yet), but my enthusiasm or curiosity about any upcoming releases has seriously eroded since yesterday... Anyway, I suppose it depends what will happen till 'spring 2017' and how busy I'd be with anything else. I usually don't pick preorders and will likely wait for opinions of people who played MEA to see if it's actually worth picking. Not even because I don't have faith in Bioware or anything, but I generally stick to 'wait and see' buyer plan, especially that I'm unsure if shooters are my kind of games and the only 'shooter-like' game I've played so far till completion was Portal 2, LOL. I could really use some ME goodness right now. I'm not even going to worry if it's good or bad. I just saw the Mac Walters rapid-fire Q&A this morning. It made me smile after a crappy night's sleep. At least Spring 2017 isn't too far away. Seems like just yesterday I was still waiting for ME3 to drop .... and decided to pick up DAO for the first time.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 10, 2016 3:55:00 GMT
Had to drop in and see what's happening. I've been away too long with Andromeda, but the news and discussion just doesn't let up, now. It seems Vivienne is the topic? I like Vivienne, even though I'd not like her in real life. I nearly always side with the Templars, making the best of a very crappy situation, so Viv and I usually get along fabulously. I sometimes do feel like we are becoming friends, as much as Orlesian courtiers have them, by the end. She is a totally different animal if you don't do things her way. Yikes. Sera is similarly love/hate, friend/foe. It made these two characters very polarizing, but interesting, if one put in the time and effort required to experience their different facets. Andromeda calls. I have notifications in need of responses. It's all very serious.
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Post by ellawyn on Nov 10, 2016 4:18:15 GMT
I am still here friendos, just andromeding My interest in Andromeda is growing. Can't say I'm particularly *hyped* but I'm definitely interested. I'm very much "meh" at this point. I've always a weird relationship with Mass Effect in that I feel like it's the better series, but I've just never been able to get into it as much. Maybe because, for all that it does better than Dragon Age, it still loses in the character-writing arena - which is easily the most important to me. Mass Effect just never got into the companions as much as DA does. Even ME2 - probably my favorite ME because of how much focus it gives the companions - was somewhat shallowly written and spent extremely little time actually developing these characters. Given that the only companion they've shown off thus far is Mascara Asari (Mascari?) I'm guessing the focus has probably not suddenly switched to character writing. Also something about that Asari girl rubs me the wrong way. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the "lol quirky!!!! :PPP" vibe I'm getting from her. Maybe it's the fact that I never really liked the Asari to begin with. Maybe I'm still bitter towards any Asari in the spotlight after having to put up with Liara for three games straight. I dunno. And I swear to god if they throw some bone to Garrus fans and leave Thanemancers out in the cold again I'll... probably do nothing, but I'll do nothing quite bitterly!
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