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Post by javeart on Jan 29, 2017 16:26:40 GMT
SO, thinking about what gervaise21 said about how until DAI he was a city elf at heart, I'm curious now about what was your favourite origin in DAO and your trajectories to DAI. I hope that talking about how we RP our Lavellans is on topic enough Because now I'm thinking about it and, I mentioned this in the DA confessions thread, my canon PCs in DA are all basically the same person (yes, so much for RP, I know ) and that person is my Surana, that is what I'm at heart to date. And I think that influeces a lot how my Lavellan is. To begin with, I'm much more anti-nobility and anti-chantry than anti-human, much more pro-elves (in general) than pro-dalish (specifically), and as much pro-mages as pro-elves. In fact, I'm not anti-human at all, I just want elves to be free and treated as equals and that their own culture is respected. Another thing is that I'm deeply atheist IRL and I have a hard time RP believers of any kind, and I never do it in my canon. I tend to project too my individualism and my tendency to distrust people in power in my PCs. And, well, all of this fits easily in the Surana background, but not all of it does in the Lavellan background, so I ended up with a (slyghtly? very? absolutely? ) atypical dalish, one that honors their traditions only out of respect for the people around her, curious about elven history but also about the rest of the world and probably somewhat frustrated with that kind of life. And she definitely was much more impressed, in a very positive way, about the revelations of the wonder that the elven world pre-veil must have been, than concerned about the elven religion being "disproved" and about the possibility that most evanuris might have been evil creatures, because I can't see how the tales of people with power abusing said power would surprise her in the slightest I don't mean any of this in a confrontational way, again , it's only a reflection on how I RP my Lavellan as an elf/dalish/etc compaired to other elven PCs in DA
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 29, 2017 17:02:49 GMT
SO, thinking about what gervaise21 said about how until DAI he was a city elf at heart, I'm curious now about what was your favourite origin in DAO and your trajectories to DAI. I hope that talking about how we RP our Lavellans is on topic enough I hope so. Because now I'm thinking about it and, I mentioned this in the DA confessions thread, my canon PCs in DA are all basically the same person (yes, so much for RP, I know ) and that person is my Surana, that is what I'm at heart to date. And I think that influeces a lot how my Lavellan is. That's okay. It's always important to play in a way that satisfies you and entertains you. I enjoy making pretty distinct characters myself when it comes to RPG, but there's nothing wrong with having a particular type you enjoy traversing the world with. To begin with, I'm much more anti-nobility and anti-chantry than anti-human, much more pro-elves (in general) than pro-dalish (specifically), and as much pro-mages as pro-elves. In fact, I'm not anti-human at all, I just want elves to be free and treated as equals and that their own culture is respected. Another thing is that I'm deeply atheist IRL and I have a hard time RP believers of any kind, and I never do it in my canon. I tend to project too my individualism and my tendency to distrust people in power in my PCs. There's likely quite a few people who imbue a bit of themselves into their characters. My Surana Warden (my canon Warden) was an atheist as well. I could never really get into playing as an elf who was religiously Andrastian. It made absolutely no sense to me. He condemned the Chantry for invading the Dales for religious reasons when speaking with the Chantry Sister at Ostagar, told Leliana he didn't view Andraste as divine, said to Velanna that he felt Andraste just used their ancestors for her own ends, and told Justice he didn't believe in the Maker. Very pragmatic when it came to dealing with the darkspawn as well (as Irving's star pupil, I felt he studied history enough to be cognizant of the threat they posed), and felt they needed to be stopped at any cost. And, well, all of this fits easily in the Surana background, but not all of it does in the Lavellan background, so I ended up with a (slyghtly? very? absolutely? ) atypical dalish, one that honors their traditions only out of respect for the people around her, curious about elven history but also about the rest of the world and probably somewhat frustrated with that kind of life. I imagine she would be pretty happy to see the rest of the world, given the places you visit during the Inquisition. And she definitely was much more impressed, in a very positive way, about the revelations of the wonder that the elven world pre-veil must have been, than concerned about the elven religion being "disproved" and about the possibility that most evanuris might have been evil creatures, because I can't see how the tales of people with power abusing said power would surprise her in the slightest I don't mean any of this in a confrontational way, again , it's only a reflection on how I RP my Lavellan as an elf/dalish/etc compaired to other elven PCs in DA Roleplaying is meant to be fun and give you the chance to step into a character's shoes. Don't worry, I don't imagine anyone will take offense. There are a number of ways you can make characters distinct through roleplay. My Dalish mage, Revas, wants to save Solas because they're friends, but I can also imagine playing as an elven character (in the next game) who simply doesn't have that same emotional investment. It's similar to something that took place involving my Surana Warden and my apostate Hawke: during the Fifth Blight, my Surana Warden supported and empowered Bhelen to the throne, but when Bhelen sent assassins to kill Renvil Harrowmont, my apostate Hawke protected him because he was a different character, and there was none of the political investment that my Surana Warden had. Similarly, my Surana Warden saw the darkspawn was incredibly dangerous, and refused to broker any alliance with the Architect because of it. Conversely, my apostate Hawke was willing to make a deal with Janeka to try and control Corypheus in order to use him to stop the Blights, and only turned on her when he discovered she was working with the tainted dwarves under Corypheus' control. It can be fun to create different characters who inhabit the same 'world', so to speak.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 29, 2017 17:46:29 GMT
My favourite DAO PC was my city elf Warden, Raven Tabris. She wasn't my first Warden. I played the Dalish origin first and then my Surana mage before I circled back to the last of the elf options. By then I knew it bit more about the DA world and what things might have influenced her outlook on life. I decided her mother had been one of the Night Elves who helped Maric and Loghain in the war against Orlais in the belief that it would result in a better world for the elves in Ferelden. I don't know if they have changed the lore since but at the time of DAO it was apparently an offence to harm someone in defence of an elf, which presumably accounted for why Duncan does nothing to stop Vaughan kidnapping the wedding party. Anyway, it seemed to her that Maric and Loghain had betrayed the elves who assisted them in not making things better for the city elves, so definitely anti-nobility if not actually anti-human at the start of the game. She wasn't exactly thrilled at having an arranged marriage but then after the poor guy got himself killed trying to rescue her, she had another reason to be resentful of the way elves are treated. She kept his ring so she wouldn't forget him. She was not Andrastrian and had no regard whatsoever for the Chantry but didn't really know much about the elven gods either. She believed in people sticking together against those who would oppress them and so was very loyal to her family and friends in the alienage. She was proud of being an elf, in the standing tall kind of way. So much of her character development came through being mellowed by her contact with other races.
I am a believer IRL which is probably why I have such a problem with the Chantry and the way faith is presented in the game. So Raven admired Andraste and Shartan and adhered to the moral imperatives of the Chant: not harming those weaker than yourself, not lying or stealing, but that was as far as it went. The same was true of Hawke in every run because I could not bring myself to play someone who believed in the Chantry. Then in DAI, as I couldn't play a city elf, I threw myself into role playing my Dalish elves. As a result I came to appreciate their stance far more. Like Raven, my Dalish elves' pride comes from standing tall against those who would oppress them and refusing to submit to the ideals that others would force upon them. My canon Lavellan is a male archer. When he was younger he was actually devastated to find he didn't have magical ability because of the Dalish belief that those with magic are nearer to being what their ancestors were. He wanted to be the best elf he could possibly be, so if he couldn't be a Keeper, he would be the best scout and protector of his clan. He volunteered for the task of spying on the Conclave as the best person for the role in the clan (which was true). He believed in the elven gods as the wise guides and teachers the Keepers portrayed them as. He took the vallaslin of Mythal. He never thought the anchor came from Andraste but thought it came from Mythal (which wasn't so far from the truth since she may actually have given the orb to Solas). Meeting Mythal was a bit of a downer because whilst she acknowledged him as one of the People, it was clear that helping the elves wasn't her top priority. He took the betrayal of Solas very hard. He does consider it a betrayal because after all the fine words he heard Solas speak to other people, expressing sentiments that he very much agreed with, and the regard that Solas said he had for him, he discovered that it had always been his intention to destroy them all. He has utter contempt for the Chantry and the nobility of both Ferelden and Orlais but his time with the Inquisition has made him realise there is good and bad in all the races and they need to work together for a better world for everyone but he particularly identifies and wants to help the elves because no one else will and he wants to keep them out of the clutches of Fen'Harel. Thanks to what his clan achieved in Wycome and the generosity of Varric, he actually thought they might have a shot of making a better world for all the elves of Thedas and he'll keep on trying until it happens but Solas threatens that dream.
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Post by javeart on Jan 29, 2017 18:25:41 GMT
There are a number of ways you can make characters distinct through roleplay. My Dalish mage, Revas, wants to save Solas because they're friends, but I can also imagine playing as an elven character (in the next game) who simply doesn't have that same emotional investment. It's similar to something that took place involving my Surana Warden and my apostate Hawke: during the Fifth Blight, my Surana Warden supported and empowered Bhelen to the throne, but when Bhelen sent assassins to kill Renvil Harrowmont, my apostate Hawke protected him because he was a different character, and there was none of the political investment that my Surana Warden had. Similarly, my Surana Warden saw the darkspawn was incredibly dangerous, and refused to broker any alliance with the Architect because of it. Conversely, my apostate Hawke was willing to make a deal with Janeka to try and control Corypheus in order to use him to stop the Blights, and only turned on her when he discovered she was working with the tainted dwarves under Corypheus' control. It can be fun to create different characters who inhabit the same 'world', so to speak. You know, I think I'm usually capable of at least RP that kind of thing, up to a point at least, because they might have the same personality, but they have different information after all, but I think Solas is going to prove that I migth not be able to do even that Doesn't matter how bad Solas should look to my next PC based on what she actually knows about him, my feelings about the character based on DAI are going to win, I'm pretty sure about that. In fact, I'm usually capable of doing pt with characters that are not self-inserts (not completely, at least ) to see the impact of different choices and such (and then, not all of them, there are things that I just can't RP in anyway), but I think not even in those I'm going to kill him willingly
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 29, 2017 18:34:59 GMT
My favourite DAO PC was my city elf Warden, Raven Tabris. She wasn't my first Warden. I played the Dalish origin first and then my Surana mage before I circled back to the last of the elf options. By then I knew it bit more about the DA world and what things might have influenced her outlook on life. I decided her mother had been one of the Night Elves who helped Maric and Loghain in the war against Orlais in the belief that it would result in a better world for the elves in Ferelden. I don't know if they have changed the lore since but at the time of DAO it was apparently an offence to harm someone in defence of an elf, which presumably accounted for why Duncan does nothing to stop Vaughan kidnapping the wedding party. Anyway, it seemed to her that Maric and Loghain had betrayed the elves who assisted them in not making things better for the city elves, so definitely anti-nobility if not actually anti-human at the start of the game. She wasn't exactly thrilled at having an arranged marriage but then after the poor guy got himself killed trying to rescue her, she had another reason to be resentful of the way elves are treated. She kept his ring so she wouldn't forget him. She was not Andrastrian and had no regard whatsoever for the Chantry but didn't really know much about the elven gods either. She believed in people sticking together against those who would oppress them and so was very loyal to her family and friends in the alienage. She was proud of being an elf, in the standing tall kind of way. So much of her character development came through being mellowed by her contact with other races. I thought the Night Elves were an interesting concept, and while they weren't explored more in Origins (there's some references to The Stolen Throne in the vanilla game, such as a mention of the elven bard Katriel), it does seem that they were betrayed despite their service to the kingdom. Like you, I also imagined my Surana Warden's mother was one of the Night Elves (I imagined her as a single mother raising a child on her own in the Denerim alienage, and with the release of Inquisition imagined she had been enslaved by Tevinter but was freed by Clan Lavellan before reaching the Imperium with other elven slaves). Thanks to what his clan achieved in Wycome and the generosity of Varric, he actually thought they might have a shot of making a better world for all the elves of Thedas and he'll keep on trying until it happens but Solas threatens that dream. I do wish the fate of Clan Lavellan was a decision added to the Dragon Age Keep. Otherwise, I fear the outcome will go the way of the Dalish Boon to streamline everything. Logically, the existence of an elven-led council in Wycome, along with Briala serving as Marquise of the Dales (and possibly the ramifications of a Dalish elf becoming Comte in Kirkwall), should impact the numbers of Fen'Harel's army (given that there are some logical alternatives to pursue). When the Dalish protagonist tries to persuade Solas that he's wrong (which I imagine won't be a short conversation, assuming there is one between the two), it would be nice to bring up that there is some progressive change happening right now because of their actions - Briala is making positive reforms for the elves in Orlais while Clan Lavellan and the Wycome elves are governing Wycome with a prosperous alliance with Kirkwall securing their position. Otherwise, if the reset button is pushed on Briala's elven reforms and Wycome's elven-led fate, we're not going to be in a position to say much in our favor.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 29, 2017 18:59:26 GMT
Let's face it, if they were going to let Lavellan argue the reforms they had already achieved, they could have done that in Trespasser. When Solas is saying how he will make things better for the elves, they could have had you saying that you were doing that already without it necessitating killing everyone else. The whole point is that Solas views modern races, elves included, as being less than they should be thanks to his actions in the past. The only way he can "save" the elves is by putting things back the way they were.
That is why I was so angry at him. He had gone on at Dorian about freeing the slaves if he was truly sorry for the past. He lectured other people about things he didn't approve of and criticised the Dalish for thinking they are perfect (not to my Lavellan of course because we were friends but that is the attitude Solas has in his mind if You Tube is anything to go by). He claimed that they weren't interested in improving their lives - by this he means listening to his wisdom. Yet from what he says, Dorian could have gone back and attempted to free all the slaves, everyone could have taken to heart his criticisms, the Dalish could have admitted they could learn from him and he would still not be satisfied until everything is restored to what it once was. My Lavellan had been busting his gut to try and make things better for the elves and yet when I took the "elf" dialogue option that asked to be allowed to help him (by which I didn't mean destroy the world but find another way of improving it), the response was "there is no glory in this". I wasn't looking for glory; I genuinely wanted to make things better for all elves and would gladly give my life in that cause, but no, I wasn't prepared to give my life in destroying the present world. So the elf option was something of an insult.
My whole problem with Solas is that the elf I knew for much of the game, whom I admired and thought of as a friend, would be someone I would try to redeem, if nothing else because it seems such a waste of a talent that could be used to help the elves in the present. However, Fen'Harel of Trespasser who could calmly discuss destroying my world and everyone in it, just to recover some nostalgic idea of the past where the rulers were so corrupted by power that the elves needed freeing from it, just blew my mind. I honestly didn't recognise him as the person I had called my friend and vowed to stop him at all costs.
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Post by Rynnju on Jan 29, 2017 19:53:00 GMT
Because I see people bringing up wishing the Clan Lavellan Wycome decision was in the Keep, were any of the race-specific war table mission outcomes in the Keep? I don't know anything about them and don't remember.
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 29, 2017 20:08:07 GMT
Because I see people bringing up wishing the Clan Lavellan Wycome decision was in the Keep, were any of the race-specific war table mission outcomes in the Keep? I don't know anything about them and don't remember. Isn't Clan Lavellan (out of the possible racial options in Inquisition) the only ones who can die?
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Post by Solas on Jan 29, 2017 20:15:07 GMT
i am just gunna take a moment to appreciate the DA elf lorists in this thread who have been analyzing and discussing/speculating stuff relating to Solas and elves and related lore on a wider level since the recent dev tweet teases. i saw it floating round the blogosphere and i know some or a lot of it originates from this thread / this thread's people I especially appreciate it since I am quite unable to tear my eyes away from the new andromeda stuff and the speculation/developments regarding that, so I haven't gotten round to (havent been able to tbh, straight-up andromedamaggeden) sinking my teeth into the DA elf stuff like I usually would. not that I have any need to now because yall got it covered and what you came up with was The Gooooood Shit (trademark). i am a proud father on this day. side note: the solas/elf teases got me like OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by Garnet on Jan 29, 2017 20:35:07 GMT
It's okay. These are small snippets of future DA announcements and Andromeda is meer months away! I'm obsessing over Zelda:BOTW and Andromeda atm while also playing through FFXV so there's a lot more than Dragon Age to obsess over right now. It's hard to stay focused on Solas atm! And yet... *drooool* edit to add: entirely necessarry.
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*waves at blanketfortians*
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Post by Ajna on Jan 29, 2017 20:40:31 GMT
i am just gunna take a moment to appreciate the DA elf lorists in this thread who have been analyzing and discussing/speculating stuff relating to Solas and elves and related lore on a wider level since the recent dev tweet teases. i saw it floating round the blogosphere and i know some or a lot of it originates from this thread / this thread's people I especially appreciate it since I am quite unable to tear my eyes away from the new andromeda stuff and the speculation/developments regarding that, so I haven't gotten round to (havent been able to tbh, straight-up andromedamaggeden) sinking my teeth into the DA elf stuff like I usually would. not that I have any need to now because yall got it covered and what you came up with was The Gooooood Shit (trademark). i am a proud father on this day. side note: the solas/elf teases got me like OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT RECENT DEV TWEET TEASES?! TELL ME THE THINGS!
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Post by Solas on Jan 29, 2017 20:41:13 GMT
i am just gunna take a moment to appreciate the DA elf lorists in this thread who have been analyzing and discussing/speculating stuff relating to Solas and elves and related lore on a wider level since the recent dev tweet teases. i saw it floating round the blogosphere and i know some or a lot of it originates from this thread / this thread's people I especially appreciate it since I am quite unable to tear my eyes away from the new andromeda stuff and the speculation/developments regarding that, so I haven't gotten round to (havent been able to tbh, straight-up andromedamaggeden) sinking my teeth into the DA elf stuff like I usually would. not that I have any need to now because yall got it covered and what you came up with was The Gooooood Shit (trademark). i am a proud father on this day. side note: the solas/elf teases got me like OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT RECENT DEV TWEET TEASES?! TELL ME THE THINGS! i cant hear u, my hearing is declining in my old age
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Post by Ajna on Jan 29, 2017 20:43:21 GMT
WHAT RECENT DEV TWEET TEASES?! TELL ME THE THINGS! i cant hear u, my hearing is declining in my old age Meanieface MJ! *looks for the things*
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Post by Solas on Jan 29, 2017 20:48:16 GMT
darling 2, 3mix of lore (some elfy and some stuff that helps paint a picture of the next game) and solas teases, some overlap in the posts sorry.
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Post by Ajna on Jan 29, 2017 20:52:01 GMT
darling 2, 3mix of lore (some elfy and some stuff that helps paint a picture of the next game) and solas teases, some overlap in the posts sorry. I love you Since I'm here for ME:A I figured I'd come and get any updates here on the egg while I'm at it.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 29, 2017 23:36:56 GMT
Because I see people bringing up wishing the Clan Lavellan Wycome decision was in the Keep, were any of the race-specific war table mission outcomes in the Keep? I don't know anything about them and don't remember. Nope - all the War Table missions that get recorded in the Keep are under "Operations" and there's no race-specific mission outcomes... so far. I have to say that while, a while ago, I entertained the possibility of them expanding the Dragon Age Keep, the more I think about it the more I think that they won't be adding anything to DAI tiles or else. I might be wrong, but I'm just not betting on it as much as I did. That doesn't mean that individual decisions of Inky couldn't have had been addressed directly in the game itself, IF we get to control Inkys at one point or another... but both with game or the Keep we'll just have to wait see. As of now, I'd be happy if they added the animations and narrations by Varric to the Keep for Inquisition. Simple as it is, it's actually quite fun to have all your individual worldstate decisions laid out as a continuous story. I don't think it'd happen anytime soon though - they'd likely keep all the major updates to the site prior to release of DA4, not only because they'd want to promote it as a tool to set-up individual world-states, but also as means to bring people up to speed with what happened in last 3 chapters.
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Post by melbella on Jan 29, 2017 23:48:21 GMT
Nope - all the War Table missions that get recorded in the Keep are under "Operations" and there's no race-specific mission outcomes... so far. I have to say that while, a while ago, I entertained the possibility of them expanding the Dragon Age Keep, the more I think about it the more I think that they won't be adding anything to DAI tiles or else. I might be wrong, but I'm just not betting on it as much as I did. That doesn't mean that individual decisions of Inky couldn't have had been addressed directly in the game itself, IF we get to control Inkys at one point or another... but both with game or the Keep we'll just have to wait see. As of now, I'd be happy if they added the animations and narrations by Varric to the Keep for Inquisition. Simple as it is, it's actually quite fun to have all your individual worldstate decisions laid out as a continuous story. I don't think it'd happen anytime soon though - they'd likely keep all the major updates to the site prior to release of DA4, not only because they'd want to promote it as a tool to set-up individual world-states, but also as means to bring people up to speed with what happened in last 3 chapters.
Not only for the reasons you state, but any updates/changes can be huge spoilers for what might be in the next game. It's unlikely they will do anything with it until much closer to DA4 release, whenever that might be.
As for the Inq. specific WT quests, they could be included as part of the character import. I would hope, if they did that, the default would be the good outcome, not the "you just got your clan killed - whoopsie" outcome. Then again, since the Dalish elf one is really the only one with such opposing end results, they might just ignore them all. Can anything bad happen to the Vashoth mercs or Cadash's Carta buddies?
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 30, 2017 0:03:14 GMT
My Lavellan made all the right choices about Wycome until the very last one - she always advocated for peaceful resolutions so she asked Josephine's diplomats to try to work with the Free Marcher nobles. And that failed - she needed to take the more warlike action of having Cullen station troops there. So she had a tragic outcome but I'd want it to stay that way if anything about it gets imported into DA4. I'd be annoyed if the world state in DA4 defaulted to the happy ending because that wouldn't reflect what happened to my Lavellan.
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Post by ellawyn on Jan 30, 2017 0:37:28 GMT
My Lavellan accidentally got her clan killed on the second mission and I didn't even realize because I never bothered to read the War Table quests I am a good Inquisitor. Yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 3:13:56 GMT
Freakin' HECK! I was listening to oldies song on YouTube and this one just hit all the Solavellan feels...
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 30, 2017 3:49:12 GMT
My Lavellan made all the right choices about Wycome until the very last one - she always advocated for peaceful resolutions so she asked Josephine's diplomats to try to work with the Free Marcher nobles. And that failed - she needed to take the more warlike action of having Cullen station troops there. So she had a tragic outcome but I'd want it to stay that way if anything about it gets imported into DA4. I'd be annoyed if the world state in DA4 defaulted to the happy ending because that wouldn't reflect what happened to my Lavellan. I just... cheated I wanted to know the results at a time when they weren't yet easily available to read on the web, and since it took a LONG time for the mission to complete, I just created separate saves with different decisions ticking down and went to sleep! With that said - we don't really know whether what happened with Lavellan clan would ever come up in DA4. I mean, aside from not knowing how much time we'd spend with Inquisitor or to what extent they're going to be involved, already there's *so much potential stuff* to tackle in the next title, there may simply be no place for it. That doesn't mean that there's no possibility that IF Inky shows up and IF we'd get to control them, we wouldn't be able to address the more minute details of their past - in fact, IF we'd get to play with them as secondary PC, I an see Bioware giving us a possibility to shape something about them: otherwise, I don't think any player who has never played Inquisition would enjoy playing a character they essentially don't know much about.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 30, 2017 4:26:05 GMT
I just... cheated I wanted to know the results at a time when they weren't yet easily available to read on the web, and since it took a LONG time for the mission to complete, I just created separate saves with different decisions ticking down and went to sleep! With that said - we don't really know whether what happened with Lavellan clan would ever come up in DA4. I mean, aside from not knowing how much time we'd spend with Inquisitor or to what extent they're going to be involved, already there's *so much potential stuff* to tackle in the next title, there may simply be no place for it. That doesn't mean that there's no possibility that IF Inky shows up and IF we'd get to control them, we wouldn't be able to address the more minute details of their past - in fact, IF we'd get to play with them as secondary PC, I an see Bioware giving us a possibility to shape something about them: otherwise, I don't think any player who has never played Inquisition would enjoy playing a character they essentially don't know much about. I know there are a lot of ifs. But if the war table missions do impact DA4 somehow, I'd want them to reflect each player's world states. I have a million saves, too, but I generally only do one play-through and I make the choices that seem right to me, and accept the consequences. Thus, Clan Lavellan and the Wycome city elves were slaughtered in my playthrough, and I got the Chargers killed too. Nobody's perfect and I just couldn't 'cheat' because I don't imagine my Inquisitor having any sort of prescience!
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 30, 2017 4:42:52 GMT
I just... cheated I wanted to know the results at a time when they weren't yet easily available to read on the web, and since it took a LONG time for the mission to complete, I just created separate saves with different decisions ticking down and went to sleep! With that said - we don't really know whether what happened with Lavellan clan would ever come up in DA4. I mean, aside from not knowing how much time we'd spend with Inquisitor or to what extent they're going to be involved, already there's *so much potential stuff* to tackle in the next title, there may simply be no place for it. That doesn't mean that there's no possibility that IF Inky shows up and IF we'd get to control them, we wouldn't be able to address the more minute details of their past - in fact, IF we'd get to play with them as secondary PC, I an see Bioware giving us a possibility to shape something about them: otherwise, I don't think any player who has never played Inquisition would enjoy playing a character they essentially don't know much about. I know there are a lot of ifs. But if the war table missions do impact DA4 somehow, I'd want them to reflect each player's world states. I have a million saves, too, but I generally only do one play-through and I make the choices that seem right to me, and accept the consequences. Thus, Clan Lavellan and the Wycome city elves were slaughtered in my playthrough, and I got the Chargers killed too. Nobody's perfect and I just couldn't 'cheat' because I don't imagine my Inquisitor having any sort of prescience! Well, if there's any consolation, PW and the rest seemed to be ready to make some amends in Trespasser (giving line to Varric about the surviving clan), so maybe that bodes well for the future. And I simply have a different style - while I play 1, maybe 2, initial playthroughs for a simple fun of discovery with a variation of my "default" RPG character, I hardly ever make decisions based on a single PT, once I decide to play someone with more defined and distinct personality or quirks. So I approach them more like a proper story character - I have to know all the details first, in order to establish their trajectory through the story, based on whatever personality I give them and how I imagine all the details that surround a given event, because often I surround the same quest/mission with different headcanoned circumstances that lead to its varied resolution in every individual playthough. I'm a controlling person that way XD
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