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Post by Elessara on Jan 9, 2017 22:05:02 GMT
The dragon wasn't even the problem for me. After the Gurd Harofsen fight she was a pushover. Omg that fight (on Nightmare)! I think that's the most I've ever died in a game except maybe Tomb Raider (the 2013 one). Oh don't get me wrong, Gurd definitely messed my day up... I don't remember how I finally won that fight, I didn't have to go and remake my gear. I think I just changed up the party, was travelling with Sera in the gang and she just wasn't cutting it for that DLC. I was playing on nightmare too since the game for champions and probably all the specializations is cheese on nightmare. Then you start playing dlc and it's a whole different game. I don't even know how often I died, and what really sucked is there was no good save point between waves, just continuous punishment. That's why I marked the dragon higher though, I always got close to killing Hakkon, and then those little buggers come out of nowhere and it might not happen the first wave, might not happen the second, but eventually those little pricks will lynch my party and throw all my plans out the window. The drakes I mean. Had to make sure to use everyone's bombs, and get solas and sometimes my inquisitor (the mark) to nuke them before they could do too much damage. Even after I remade my armor for frost resistance, I still had to do the last part of the fight alone with my tank, though I replayed the battle just to see if I could do it without losing everyone later. Should have respec'd their gear too, but lazy, lol. Oh and yes, you get a cookie! You know how rare it is for me to find Stargate fans? My problem was initially the two giant guys with the mauls and their stupid spinny attack. Once I got past them, the mages would screw with me. THEN stupid Harofsen would pop up and summon undead and more Hakkonites. I already had my party tricked out in cold resist gear and fire runes so maybe that was why the dragon caused me less trouble. I was also using 1 tank, 2 rogues and 1 mage ... soooo not the ideal setup but I'm stubborn. That's how I started the fight and that's how I was going to finish it, gosh darn it! And yes, Solas was the mage (to keep things slightly on topic). Stargate derail: Really? That was a pretty good show. SciFi did crap movies but their shows were decent. I kind of lost interest when they started to turn it into Farscape SG-1 though.
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Post by Rynnju on Jan 9, 2017 22:18:58 GMT
Hmm, I think I might need to lurk here more often. I'm glad you guys got past the art debate. Those kinds of debates never lead anywhere nice. No one's in trouble, but I will intervene sooner before things get that heated. Sugar, sorry to hear that you're no longer comfortable posting your art here. Hopefully you'll change your mind in time. <hug> Sunny, happy birthday! I was thinking about it and I'm actually quite sad that Merrill was not in this game at all. Solas would have probably really liked her and she would have made for an excellent student. I'm sure she would have been much more receptive to Solas than Sera was. In fact, I wish all three elves had been in the same party. Solas as an ancient elf; Merrill as a proud and passionate Dalish; and Sera as a "people people." Now that, would have been cool. I haven't played much since New Year's (on my 3rd IQ in about 4 weeks,) but it would have been nice to have someone that's a bit more of a middle ground between the Wolf and the very modern-centric Sera. Get rid of Vivienne and there would have been a second mage slot.That would've been great, I really miss Merrill. She almost makes me want to play Dragon Age 2 again. Almost. I think they'd have a good start at first until Solas learned she was a blood mage. He as we all know can be arrogant and judgmental, though it's not unfounded. Who knows, maybe she matured though and would take the criticism well, if she'd look to learn from Solas. Nah, he would have been fine with her being a blood mage. Remember, he's cool with blood magic and just sees it as another tool. He even is sad he doesn't know more about it but doesn't learn because it makes accessing the Fade harder. I think your character would even get one of those annoying "Solas slightly disapproves" if you got angry at Merrill for it and told her off. I think the two of them would have had a rift over his not-so-flowery view of the Dalish. I'm not sure Merrill would take it well. Had Merrill been a part of our party, I think the two of them would have eventually grown into having a good relationship, though. I would have loved to see Merrill's reaction to Flemythal and learning Solas is the Dread Wolf. I also think she would have had a more meaningful place in the cast than Vivienne (which would have been different if Viv played an important role in Halamshiral like she should have, but she didn't).
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Post by colonelkillabee on Jan 10, 2017 0:31:09 GMT
Oh don't get me wrong, Gurd definitely messed my day up... I don't remember how I finally won that fight, I didn't have to go and remake my gear. I think I just changed up the party, was travelling with Sera in the gang and she just wasn't cutting it for that DLC. I was playing on nightmare too since the game for champions and probably all the specializations is cheese on nightmare. Then you start playing dlc and it's a whole different game. I don't even know how often I died, and what really sucked is there was no good save point between waves, just continuous punishment. That's why I marked the dragon higher though, I always got close to killing Hakkon, and then those little buggers come out of nowhere and it might not happen the first wave, might not happen the second, but eventually those little pricks will lynch my party and throw all my plans out the window. The drakes I mean. Had to make sure to use everyone's bombs, and get solas and sometimes my inquisitor (the mark) to nuke them before they could do too much damage. Even after I remade my armor for frost resistance, I still had to do the last part of the fight alone with my tank, though I replayed the battle just to see if I could do it without losing everyone later. Should have respec'd their gear too, but lazy, lol. Oh and yes, you get a cookie! You know how rare it is for me to find Stargate fans? My problem was initially the two giant guys with the mauls and their stupid spinny attack. Once I got past them, the mages would screw with me. THEN stupid Harofsen would pop up and summon undead and more Hakkonites. I already had my party tricked out in cold resist gear and fire runes so maybe that was why the dragon caused me less trouble. I was also using 1 tank, 2 rogues and 1 mage ... soooo not the ideal setup but I'm stubborn. That's how I started the fight and that's how I was going to finish it, gosh darn it! And yes, Solas was the mage (to keep things slightly on topic). Stargate derail: Really? That was a pretty good show. SciFi did crap movies but their shows were decent. I kind of lost interest when they started to turn it into Farscape SG-1 though. It's great but it's old, I was a kid when it came out, so I barely understood it and had to rewatch it later when it was on netflix and I could catch more than what they showed on Scifi. Watched it 3 times front to back. My generation's pretty much never heard of it unless their parents saw it. I'm 24. I had the same issue, the spinny dudes were relentless, and thrashed me good but I took them on while my party attacked the mages. I also realized I was using some of those little challenge perks which didn't help matters at aaaaall. But it felt cheap to turn them off so I left them on. It was brutal, but eventually I got lucky and one of the mages wasn't near invincible to kill... lol. After a lot of dying.
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Post by colonelkillabee on Jan 10, 2017 0:36:21 GMT
That would've been great, I really miss Merrill. She almost makes me want to play Dragon Age 2 again. Almost. I think they'd have a good start at first until Solas learned she was a blood mage. He as we all know can be arrogant and judgmental, though it's not unfounded. Who knows, maybe she matured though and would take the criticism well, if she'd look to learn from Solas. Nah, he would have been fine with her being a blood mage. Remember, he's cool with blood magic and just sees it as another tool. He even is sad he doesn't know more about it but doesn't learn because it makes accessing the Fade harder. I think your character would even get one of those annoying "Solas slightly disapproves" if you got angry at Merrill for it and told her off. I think the two of them would have had a rift over his not-so-flowery view of the Dalish. I'm not sure Merrill would take it well. Had Merrill been a part of our party, I think the two of them would have eventually grown into having a good relationship, though. I would have loved to see Merrill's reaction to Flemythal and learning Solas is the Dread Wolf. I also think she would have had a more meaningful place in the cast than Vivienne (which would have been different if Viv played an important role in Halamshiral like she should have, but she didn't). You're right, he doesn't mind it in it of itself, but he does make the point that it's fine of those who know what they're doing, Merrill thought she knew what she was doing and that's what got her into trouble. I don't think he'd get on her for being a blood mage alone, but a foolish one, unless she grew wiser since then. But maybe not as much as I'm thinking, he might respect her for trying to learn in the first place with no assistance whereas everyone else ignorantly shuns it. I do agree her being Dalish would cause more conflict than this though, for sure.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 10, 2017 1:03:52 GMT
This is perfect and awesome and I could totally see it happening, since a good deal of his romance dialogue suggests that he may have sapiosexual leanings.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jan 10, 2017 1:22:22 GMT
I just handed in my bachelor's thesis in psychology, and for those who don't know psychology uses a lot of statistics! I absolutely hate it! So this is triggering me sooo much! She should totally have asked him about the p value and effect sizes while she was at it!
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jan 10, 2017 1:24:49 GMT
Because Solas.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jan 10, 2017 2:50:47 GMT
Because Solas. I've had wine tonight, and got the crap scared out of me when Solas' eyes opened as I was scrolling down. Thanks for that. One glass. It's sad.
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Post by CapricornSun on Jan 10, 2017 6:20:32 GMT
Many thanks again, everyone, for the birthday greetings! You guys are awesome! *Reforms from the shadows* It's Sunny's birthday? Maligayang kaarawan! (Is that how you say it? Or is Google lying again) Bunneh! And don't worry, Google isn't lying, hehe! That's how you say it. Thank you!
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How's that? Is it close?
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Post by Sifr on Jan 10, 2017 20:28:10 GMT
Oh and yes, you get a cookie! You know how rare it is for me to find Stargate fans? Another Stargate fan here, methinks we should have a thread? And to connect it on topic, I could totally see the Evanuris acting like the System Lords... so would that make Solas' followers the Tok'ra?
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Post by colonelkillabee on Jan 10, 2017 22:44:02 GMT
Oh and yes, you get a cookie! You know how rare it is for me to find Stargate fans? Another Stargate fan here, methinks we should have a thread? And to connect it on topic, I could totally see the Evanuris acting like the System Lords... so would that make Solas' followers the Tok'ra? I don't know about that but what i DO know is we definitely need to make a thread for that in the off topic sections, if there is one. I need to geek over my stargates somewhere that's on topic lol.
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 10, 2017 23:26:27 GMT
Nah, he would have been fine with her being a blood mage. Remember, he's cool with blood magic and just sees it as another tool. He even is sad he doesn't know more about it but doesn't learn because it makes accessing the Fade harder. I think your character would even get one of those annoying "Solas slightly disapproves" if you got angry at Merrill for it and told her off. I think the two of them would have had a rift over his not-so-flowery view of the Dalish. I'm not sure Merrill would take it well. Had Merrill been a part of our party, I think the two of them would have eventually grown into having a good relationship, though. I would have loved to see Merrill's reaction to Flemythal and learning Solas is the Dread Wolf. I also think she would have had a more meaningful place in the cast than Vivienne (which would have been different if Viv played an important role in Halamshiral like she should have, but she didn't). You're right, he doesn't mind it in it of itself, but he does make the point that it's fine of those who know what they're doing, Merrill thought she knew what she was doing and that's what got her into trouble. I don't think he'd get on her for being a blood mage alone, but a foolish one, unless she grew wiser since then. But maybe not as much as I'm thinking, he might respect her for trying to learn in the first place with no assistance whereas everyone else ignorantly shuns it. I do agree her being Dalish would cause more conflict than this though, for sure. Merrill didn't get herself into trouble; Marethari made the mistake of thinking she knew best and let Audacity loose, based on information she likely obtained from Audacity (since it was an entirely different to her opposition to Merrill's efforts in Acts I and II). Merrill had to deal with Marethari's mistake, and with Marethari's erroneous handling of Clan Sabrae because the Keeper endangered the entire clan with her reckless actions. Merrill is a good example of a good blood mage who never lets the darker sides of blood magic corrupt her or control her; that she remained cognizant despite being in a Tevinter Hellmouth for close to a decade speaks volumes when so many others fell prey to insanity. I'm sure Merrill and Solas would disagree about the Dalish (as Merrill provides a pro-Dalish perspective on their culture), but the Dalish protagonist and Solas can disagree about the People as well; I think it would have been interesting to hear the two of them engage in some intelligent back and forth discussions about the Dalish, spirits, magic, the Beyond.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 11, 2017 3:58:43 GMT
There's some interesting parallels between Merrill and Marethari;
After the disappearance of Tamlen (and possible death of Mahariel) in 9:30, Merrill went off in search of a demon, seeking to make a deal to cleanse the shards of the Blight, in order to restore the shattered Eluvian.
After the death of her husband and several kinsmen in 8:82, Marethari went off by herself in search of Flemeth, seeking to make a deal with her in order to get revenge on the Avvar who killed them.
Marethari might have been trying to prevent Merrill from making the same mistakes she did in her youth... because otherwise, it does paint her as a bit of a hypocrite, when you remember what their respective deals were. Merrill made a deal because she wanted the power to fix a mirror, while Marethari made a deal to have Sylvans tear people limb from limb.
Out of the two, Merrill has never (intentionally) harmed another person, while Marethari wanted to brutally murder people. The only deaths that came from Merrill's actions were ultimately down to other people, not through any fault of hers.
Pol freaked out and ran straight into the Vaterral, because Marethari had made him afraid of Merrill. Marethari recklessly made the deal with Audacity to allow it to possess her. Fenarel going ballistic and potentially attacking Hawke, leading to Clan Sabrae being wiped out.
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 11, 2017 10:57:44 GMT
There's some interesting parallels between Merrill and Marethari; After the disappearance of Tamlen (and possible death of Mahariel) in 9:30, Merrill went off in search of a demon, seeking to make a deal to cleanse the shards of the Blight, in order to restore the shattered Eluvian. After the death of her husband and several kinsmen in 8:82, Marethari went off by herself in search of Flemeth, seeking to make a deal with her in order to get revenge on the Avvar who killed them. Marethari might have been trying to prevent Merrill from making the same mistakes she did in her youth... because otherwise, it does paint her as a bit of a hypocrite, when you remember what their respective deals were. Merrill made a deal because she wanted the power to fix a mirror, while Marethari made a deal to have Sylvans tear people limb from limb. Out of the two, Merrill has never (intentionally) harmed another person, while Marethari wanted to brutally murder people. The only deaths that came from Merrill's actions were ultimately down to other people, not through any fault of hers. Pol freaked out and ran straight into the Vaterral, because Marethari had made him afraid of Merrill. Marethari recklessly made the deal with Audacity to allow it to possess her. Fenarel going ballistic and potentially attacking Hawke, leading to Clan Sabrae being wiped out. Merrill learned blood magic from Audacity, but technically speaking, she didn't make a deal with the spirit; it was trapped and sundered from the Beyond (the Fade). Gaider elaborated on BSN that Merrill was building the Eluvian through lore she studied on the matter and information she extrapolated from the shard she took from Ferelden. That's the interesting bit; as Audacity has been in the real world and trapped inside a totem for millennia (since it was summoned during the battles between Arlathan and Tevinter), Audacity isn't in the same position to harm people as a spirit in the Beyond is. Audacity can communicate, and send images; Marethari being in such close approximation to Sundermount, and therefore Audacity, would easily allow Audacity to easily target her over the years. I do wonder how Solas would classify Audacity's status; would he consider Audacity a spirit, a demon, a being changed from summoning specifically or due to centuries of isolation?
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Post by colonelkillabee on Jan 11, 2017 14:26:18 GMT
You're right, he doesn't mind it in it of itself, but he does make the point that it's fine of those who know what they're doing, Merrill thought she knew what she was doing and that's what got her into trouble. I don't think he'd get on her for being a blood mage alone, but a foolish one, unless she grew wiser since then. But maybe not as much as I'm thinking, he might respect her for trying to learn in the first place with no assistance whereas everyone else ignorantly shuns it. I do agree her being Dalish would cause more conflict than this though, for sure. Merrill didn't get herself into trouble; Marethari made the mistake of thinking she knew best and let Audacity loose, based on information she likely obtained from Audacity (since it was an entirely different to her opposition to Merrill's efforts in Acts I and II). Merrill had to deal with Marethari's mistake, and with Marethari's erroneous handling of Clan Sabrae because the Keeper endangered the entire clan with her reckless actions. Merrill is a good example of a good blood mage who never lets the darker sides of blood magic corrupt her or control her; that she remained cognizant despite being in a Tevinter Hellmouth for close to a decade speaks volumes when so many others fell prey to insanity. I'm sure Merrill and Solas would disagree about the Dalish (as Merrill provides a pro-Dalish perspective on their culture), but the Dalish protagonist and Solas can disagree about the People as well; I think it would have been interesting to hear the two of them engage in some intelligent back and forth discussions about the Dalish, spirits, magic, the Beyond. Fair enough, I forgot about that stupid part of the quest.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 11, 2017 19:10:10 GMT
Odd thought of the day;
Does Dirthaveran refer to the entirety of the Dales or simply the Exalted Plains? If it translates to as "The Promise", then surely the term should refer to all the Dales - not only one region of it - since the establishment of their own homeland was the promise Andraste gave the Elves.
If so, would Dirthaveran'len ("Children of the Promise") be the name for the Dalish in the Elven language?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 11, 2017 19:41:43 GMT
I like the sound of that: "Children of the Promise". That does seem like something they might call themselves. After all I think it was other people who originally called them the Dalish. So far as they are concerned, they are simply the Elvhen. But Dirthaveran'len would be a good alternative.
The whole business of Audacity seems odd now. He was meant to have been bound there during the war between the last elves of Arlathan and Tevinter but according to what Morrigan says is in her book, the eluvians were shut down long before that at the time of the civil war when Solas raised the Veil. I'd really like to know how these demons allegedly know so much about the eluvians. Audacity gave Merrill the knowledge to cleanse it and possibly even mend it; Imshael had the means to activate them. It is a wonder these things remained unknown for so long if it was really that simple; just contact a demon and make a deal.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jan 11, 2017 19:57:07 GMT
^ Maybe it's not that simple... Imshael and Felassan seem to have an understanding of some sort in TME, and considering Solas' stance on spirits and demons there may well be an alliance going back thousands of years.
ETA: Solas is good enough at playing chess that he can do it without a board, as demonstrated by that string of banters between him and Iron Bull. And playing the long game definitely seems to be something Mythal does. Maybe Solas does too, and he put some pieces in place long, long ago before putting up the Veil and falling asleep.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 11, 2017 21:12:47 GMT
It is a wonder these things remained unknown for so long if it was really that simple; just contact a demon and make a deal. Many Spirits and Demons from the time of Arlathan might not exist anymore, due to constant conflict with either mortals or each other. Even though Spirits can come back if the idea behind them is strong enough, allowing them to be "reborn" in a sense, Solas does mention that don't often don't remember much of their former lives. Justice mentions in Awakening that he's seen the "reflection" of the Maker in the Fade, formed from the minds of sleeping mortals, but no Spirit that he knows has ever seen the real McCoy, so he doesn't know if he exists. I'd wager that Justice isn't old enough to remember any Elven wanderers in the Fade either, as his need to seek out injustices has likely lead him to fall in battle many times before, during previous incarnations.
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Post by lobselvith8 on Jan 11, 2017 23:08:26 GMT
I like the sound of that: "Children of the Promise". That does seem like something they might call themselves. After all I think it was other people who originally called them the Dalish. So far as they are concerned, they are simply the Elvhen. But Dirthaveran'len would be a good alternative.
The whole business of Audacity seems odd now. He was meant to have been bound there during the war between the last elves of Arlathan and Tevinter but according to what Morrigan says is in her book, the eluvians were shut down long before that at the time of the civil war when Solas raised the Veil. I'd really like to know how these demons allegedly know so much about the eluvians. Audacity gave Merrill the knowledge to cleanse it and possibly even mend it; Imshael had the means to activate them. It is a wonder these things remained unknown for so long if it was really that simple; just contact a demon and make a deal. Merrill wasn't fixing an existing Eluvian, she built an entirely new Eluvian from her own research (incorporating a single shard from an existing Eluvian into its construction). On the matter of the construction of the Eluvian, Gaider's specific words were: I'd presume it has to do with ancient spirits, since relatively new spirits like Justice are mostly shaped around Andrastians, and he said he didn't recognize Dalish elves in Awakening. Speaking of the People, Gaider addressed on the Dragon Central boards that the Dalish were heavily based on Native Americans (which likely explains why they call themselves 'the People', are nomadic, exist in tribes, and other similarities).
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