The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

I would like to point out that Tranquility was only an option in judgement if the player character was a mage.  Which I thought was odd but that's the way it was.

Okay? I'm honestly not sure why you seem to be getting upset at me over this conversation. It's not as if I'd ever in a million years choose that option, not for anyone and especially not Solas, and I have no opinion on how good or bad the writing of it would be. I'm just predicting the options we may have.

Art Post.

“An eclipse as Fen’Harel stirred” by nipuni.
Lavellan has nightmares after drinking from the well, a collective memory of the Dread Wolf during the rebellion.
Source: nipuni.tumblr.com/post/155784079580/an-eclipse-as-fenharel-stirred-she-has

Solas with a toga and without.
Source: niklisson.tumblr.com/post/155767353441/addictress-asked-for-more-shoulder-and-how-could

Art nouveau Lavellan.
Source: femme-harel.tumblr.com/post/155734177350/i-colored-my-nouveau-lavellan-3

I don't quite understand why there weren't more ramifications to that decision. The Dalish have been searching for centuries to uncover more answers about their past, and you drank from the Well, putting yourself in the prime position to help the People answer secrets that have been lost to time since the elven ancestors were enslaved by the Imperium - and then nothing.

Then again, I felt the same way about an elven homeland. You're in charge of a powerful military organization, you have political connections, you have significant funds - you could hypothetically buy up lands in southern Dales near Skyhold, you could attempt to reclaim the Hinterlands if your Dalish Warden asked for lands and was given them by the Crown (the rectonned Dalish Boon), you could do a number of things to try and get lands where they could safely settle without religious persecution. A place where the elves can be masters of their own fate.

Maybe the issue is that the Inquisitor was originally going to be human only, so the permutations from the different racial backgrounds aren't quite as felt as they should (like the dwarven protagonist being treated as an Andrastian human during the lyrium scenes with Bianca, Abelas not using the proper elven terminology for the dwarven protagonist and calling him or her shemlen as if they were human and not one of the durgen’len, or the Dalish protagonist asking Morrigan "What's a Mythal?"). It does make your actions feel pretty empty, though. While your actions are pretty significant with humans and human organizations, you don't really do anything for the Dalish.

 I agree with this, and it's part of the reason why the Inquisition means nothing at all to my canon Inquisitor, it does nothing for the things she cares about. Well, there's the mages part, I'm happy with that, but after that, is all the time chantry and nobility business and I find it really hard to care for all that stuff.

I wished she could have gone to work with Briala after killing Corypheus :/ As it is, I headcanon that she stays there because she's trying to find the way to make the most of the knowledge of the Well of Sorrows and the Inquisition has more resources and that she's actually spending a lot of time travelling and meeting with other Dalish and elven lore experts... Though Trespasser makes it obvious that she's not making a lot of progress

About that buying land or so, if I recall correctly during Tresspasser when you are on trial to talk with orlesian (ugh) and ferelden sides with divine between them, if you got that place on emerald graves? and gave it to firebanks people, they talk about it that you stole it... or it was about other place. But they simply pointed you stole it, took with force or whatever... so you think that Elven Inquisitor going for new homeland for elves, dont forget they are treated really bad, would be good idea? Riots, arguing, problems that you are buulding elven army, bla. Imo it wouldn't be good. See how they are treating someone who rescued whole Thedas from disaster after Cory being defeated - like trash, simply because they are scared of the power. Huge army, tons of connections.... The war was over. What will they do now? Go conquer Ferelden? Orlais? That's just human thinking and way of living I would say. Or fear of powerful being next to your house.

.... You know, you really need to chill and stop assuming that I'm here to pick on you, because so far it seems that any time I try and engage with you, you seem to think I'm purposefully trying to make your day worse...

No - I am not "taking umbrage with the fact that you didn't feel the same way". What I'm doing is pointing out that we're yet to see full consequences of drinking from the Well, plainly because we're yet to see more of the story. Trespasser, while important, was just a DLC that serves as a bridge between DAI and DA4.

You're talking about a different thing. Whether Warden or Inquisitor or whatever think it's an important matter for the Dalish doesn't change the reality of time both the Dalish and the rest are living in.


Well no, that's the thing - they're not. I mean, unless you forgot why Exalted Council was summoned in Trespasser? The one where Orlais tries to take control over Inquisition and Ferelden is so paranoid about military organization at their doorstep, they're having issues even with Inquisition claiming an abandoned fortress in Crestwood, even if only to provide stability to the land. So imagine what would happen if they tried to claim some of Orlais or Fereldan lands for people who are, at the very least, not liked or trusted very much?

At the very least you're risking war and possible slaughter of city elves and Dalish, especially after Inquisition's long gone, or with different leader at the helm. The elves have no capability whatsoever to pose any sort of military threat to their potentially hostile neighbors  - heck, the first kingdom of the Dales didn't, and they've had centuries to build their strength. And that's even assuming that the Dalish tribes would even want to unify, considering that they're not at all unified now...

This is nothing but a false equivalence - we're talking different scale, different circumstances and different stories. After all, the Warden only really has to deal with a reality of one kingdom (all of the story basically happens in Ferelden) and only really have to worry about local problems *without* really the whole burden of command and dealing with various factions, same way Inquisitor does.

Besides - aside from Orzammar (which Inquisition can also help *massively* in Descent) - how is "helping a single alienage (even if big one)" something that "impacts society" at large? In that respect Inquisitor can help as well - in fact do much more: they can effectively help the Dalish co-rule one of city-states in Free Marches and keep a ruler in Orlais that will further expand elven rights (think of Celene what you will, but she's the one who allowed elves attend University - as evidenced by Kenric's assistant - and can appoint first elven marquis). 

So I'm really not sure what's the issue here - it's not like they can't do nothing. And considering the scale of the story and the number of issues to tackle (they have a whole continent to rescue), I can't see how they could do more. Even with things like the Well - there's no guarantee that drinking from it will be of *any* use to most Dalish tribes, considering how scattered they are, also in terms of views on the past or attitude towards strangers. After all, we do know for a fact that Solas tried - directly and indirectly - to contact the Dalish and offered truth about the past and was fairly soundly rejected, so there's no guarantee that they'd even believe that Inquisitor has any valid knowledge about the past, *especially* if they get informed that Elvenhan actually fell from its own hand, or that Evanuris were actually a bunch of a-holes.

For my Inquisitor, all the human stuff was useful in that she got leverage to put people in power who are more progressive towards mages and elves, like Leliana. She didn't accomplish what she'd want to for the elven people, but partially modifying the human seats of power was still a huge step.

Buying the Dales for the elves may have been too difficult a move to get away with. The people undoubtedly would have seen it as taking advantage of the chaos to further your own ends. I could just see fights breaking out over that the moment big brother Inquisition isn't all over the place. I wanted to be careful about not setting up a world state that was fragile and only hinged on the Inquisition staying together, strong, and accepted.

As for the DAO things being retconned, yeah that sucked. But at least we all pretty much expected that, since before DAI came out the devs pretty much outright said that the Warden and much of what she did wouldn't factor into much.

Yeah, the Inquisitor walks too thin line between power and those who actually have given it to them to think that they could do everything they please without political consequences. That's not to say that they can't do a lot... but that's sort of the problem, ironically.


I'm not sure how it could factor in. I mean, the large point of Trespasser - if not a story beyond DAI, considering that that's Solas's near-eternal problem as well - is that the world finds all the new ways to break or unravel itself and that work of its heroes oftentimes may seem futile. Inquisitor can even have a pretty amazing rant about "can't just one thing in this f*** world stay fixed!?".

And that's 2 years after defeat of Corypheus. Blight was 10 years ago.

Art Post.

Lavellan and the Dread Wolf.
Source: kelgrid.tumblr.com/post/155813666443/testing-a-few-things-with-inquisition-today

Shiny Solas.
Source: harumeau-arts.tumblr.com/post/155798573720/i-should-be-sleeping-but-i-sketched-this-shiny

In sheep's clothing.
Source: anifanatical.tumblr.com/post/155806614655/in-sheeps-clothing

It's really nice having actual moderators that know how to moderate.

Interestingly enough Solas comments on this very thing when your Inquisitor tries to berate him for it:

Then this too:


midnight tea and Rynnju both already made all the good points on why Inquisitor kinda doesn't really have the power to make realistic drastic changes that would last. And for a tally in the Why a Dalish Inquisitor who drank from the Well of Sorrows isn't spreading the word, I think Solas says it best:


Plus, afterwards in the War room right before the battle with Corypheus, the Inquisitor says all they can decipher is buzzing (or some such vagueness) so it's difficult to hear anything. It's why Morrigan makes that remark about the knowledge being wasted on you, Inquisitor can't understand it. But realistically I think the Well of Sorrows decision is supposed to play a role in DA4 (which is the second half of DAI and the things they didn't get to because of constraints)