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Post by MeadKnight on Oct 3, 2024 1:23:07 GMT
Found something very thrilling. On tumblr, mythalism analyzed the end of Solas ritual by frame. Some interesting things were spotted. TLDR: pookie is sneaky bastard and is cooking something I think our man can free himself from the Fade and waits for the best moment. In fact post below made me think he intentionally trapped himself to escape Ghil and Elgarnan. In fact the more I think about it, why wouldn't those two killed Solas on the spot? Or exacted their revenge on him for all the ears being trapped. It's unlikely they did something to pull Solas into the Fade. But Solas, on the other hand, has good alibi. "Aw, jeez, I was pulled into the Fade and now I'm trapped. All I can do is share what I know. Those two is your responsibility now"
Guilt trip Rook into solving his mess. Use Veilguard team to get rid of/distract his enemies. Sounds like DAI, doesn't it? Here is the post I mentioned: " varric, with the dagger embedded in his chest, has some sort of energy pulsating out of him/the wound/the dagger as he lies on the ground: compare this with the same scene we see in the release date trailer of the same thing happening to ghilan'nain, its actually identical: there is also a familiar shade of green magic around the wound: ok now frame by frame breakdown of how solas gets sucked into the fade: ghilly and edgar's silhouettes go a little transparent for a second? as the camera zooms in, if you look very closely, solas lifts his right hand, and then gets pulled in then, rook gets thrown back into the wall, where they get the head injury that supplies the blood that solas later cites as the reason for the connection between them: it is not until later, once harding and neve have dragged rook and varric away from the ritual site and are about to step back into the eluvian, that we actually see any of rook's blood: once we finally get to chat with pookie while unconscious, he says a couple of things where the language stuck out to me: like, ok, pretty vague. "the magical energies pulled me here" is a crazy use of passive voice LMFAO but sure, pookie ok... sure but this is what really stands out to me: "i abhor the use of blood magic" and "had i the power to control you, i would already have used it". he does not say "no, not blood magic" or "i did not use blood magic" or any real negation. he instead does our favorite, classic fen'harel trickster lie by omission. he is banking on us drawing the conclusion that he didn't use blood magic because he said he abhors it. however!!! we know that he actually does things he abhors on a daily basis such as kill and betray his friends, break up with his girlfriend, and drink tea when necessary. its extra funny because rook literally reminds us of this in the same scene: anyway. i have no clue what hes up to but hes up to something. i love him, but i dont trust him, and i leave you with this: " I honestly hope they're right and Solas turns the tide in his favor in the final act. It wouldn't make sense to hype him up in Trespasser and then casually brush him off in the first 20 minutes of the game. By the way, I find it odd that the writers chose Ghilain'nain to be the other elven god who escapes besides Elgar'nan. Don't get me wrong, they made her look pretty cool. But if two Evanuris is all we're getting, aren't there better options? Maybe Dirthamen, god of knowledge and wisdom. Ooooo, Dirthamin would be especially juicy as that is my Inquisitor's vallaslin. And Bellara's as well.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 3, 2024 2:20:41 GMT
Ooooo, Dirthamin would be especially juicy as that is my Inquisitor's vallaslin. And as well. Has that been confirmed? I always suspected, but I haven't seen all the videos of stuff.
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Post by MeadKnight on Oct 3, 2024 3:21:30 GMT
Ooooo, Dirthamin would be especially juicy as that is my Inquisitor's vallaslin. And as well. Has that been confirmed? I always suspected, but I haven't seen all the videos of stuff. Yeah! It was in Ghil Dirthalen's interview with John Epler.
5:28 for the beginning of the question, and around 6:18 for the Dirthamin confirmation.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 3, 2024 11:17:20 GMT
Found something very thrilling. On tumblr, mythalism analyzed the end of Solas ritual by frame. Some interesting things were spotted. TLDR: pookie is sneaky bastard and is cooking something I think our man can free himself from the Fade and waits for the best moment. In fact post below made me think he intentionally trapped himself to escape Ghil and Elgarnan. In fact the more I think about it, why wouldn't those two killed Solas on the spot? Or exacted their revenge on him for all the ears being trapped. It's unlikely they did something to pull Solas into the Fade. But Solas, on the other hand, has good alibi. "Aw, jeez, I was pulled into the Fade and now I'm trapped. All I can do is share what I know. Those two is your responsibility now"
Guilt trip Rook into solving his mess. Use Veilguard team to get rid of/distract his enemies. Sounds like DAI, doesn't it? Here is the post I mentioned: " varric, with the dagger embedded in his chest, has some sort of energy pulsating out of him/the wound/the dagger as he lies on the ground: compare this with the same scene we see in the release date trailer of the same thing happening to ghilan'nain, its actually identical: there is also a familiar shade of green magic around the wound: ok now frame by frame breakdown of how solas gets sucked into the fade: ghilly and edgar's silhouettes go a little transparent for a second? as the camera zooms in, if you look very closely, solas lifts his right hand, and then gets pulled in then, rook gets thrown back into the wall, where they get the head injury that supplies the blood that solas later cites as the reason for the connection between them: it is not until later, once harding and neve have dragged rook and varric away from the ritual site and are about to step back into the eluvian, that we actually see any of rook's blood: once we finally get to chat with pookie while unconscious, he says a couple of things where the language stuck out to me: like, ok, pretty vague. "the magical energies pulled me here" is a crazy use of passive voice LMFAO but sure, pookie ok... sure but this is what really stands out to me: "i abhor the use of blood magic" and "had i the power to control you, i would already have used it". he does not say "no, not blood magic" or "i did not use blood magic" or any real negation. he instead does our favorite, classic fen'harel trickster lie by omission. he is banking on us drawing the conclusion that he didn't use blood magic because he said he abhors it. however!!! we know that he actually does things he abhors on a daily basis such as kill and betray his friends, break up with his girlfriend, and drink tea when necessary. its extra funny because rook literally reminds us of this in the same scene: anyway. i have no clue what hes up to but hes up to something. i love him, but i dont trust him, and i leave you with this: " Look, the moment I saw the gods appear and then they said that Solas was sucked into the Fade without having any agency and is now trapped there, I thought really?
I'm still suspicious of how the dagger wound up in Varric. Solas was holding it when he started holding back the pillars, then he doesn't have it when facing the gods. So, was he stupid enough to drop it? If he lost it with the effort of shoving the pillar away, then it should have shot in that direction, not sideways into Varric.
At the very least I think Solas deliberately jumped through the rift that had been created that allowed through the other two gods. I am also very suspicious of the whole premise leading up to the "failed" re-entrapment of the two gods.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Varric and Rook (or whoever Varric chose to recruit) were in some way part of his "plan" to deal with the gods. Back in Trespasser, he agreed with the Inquisitor that dropping the Veil would release them. Why wouldn't it do that with their "new" prison? So, Rook has to deal with the two gods. However, the world is a blighted mess as a result. How do we deal with that? Oh, I know, drop the Veil and let the magic cleanse the world. That's why he wouldn't tell the Inquisitor why the current world had to die because he said they were too clever and might figure it out.
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Post by ellanathehamster on Oct 3, 2024 11:20:01 GMT
Found something very thrilling. On tumblr, mythalism analyzed the end of Solas ritual by frame. Some interesting things were spotted. TLDR: pookie is sneaky bastard and is cooking something I think our man can free himself from the Fade and waits for the best moment. In fact post below made me think he intentionally trapped himself to escape Ghil and Elgarnan. In fact the more I think about it, why wouldn't those two killed Solas on the spot? Or exacted their revenge on him for all the ears being trapped. It's unlikely they did something to pull Solas into the Fade. But Solas, on the other hand, has good alibi. "Aw, jeez, I was pulled into the Fade and now I'm trapped. All I can do is share what I know. Those two is your responsibility now"
Guilt trip Rook into solving his mess. Use Veilguard team to get rid of/distract his enemies. Sounds like DAI, doesn't it? Here is the post I mentioned: " varric, with the dagger embedded in his chest, has some sort of energy pulsating out of him/the wound/the dagger as he lies on the ground: compare this with the same scene we see in the release date trailer of the same thing happening to ghilan'nain, its actually identical: there is also a familiar shade of green magic around the wound: ok now frame by frame breakdown of how solas gets sucked into the fade: ghilly and edgar's silhouettes go a little transparent for a second? as the camera zooms in, if you look very closely, solas lifts his right hand, and then gets pulled in then, rook gets thrown back into the wall, where they get the head injury that supplies the blood that solas later cites as the reason for the connection between them: it is not until later, once harding and neve have dragged rook and varric away from the ritual site and are about to step back into the eluvian, that we actually see any of rook's blood: once we finally get to chat with pookie while unconscious, he says a couple of things where the language stuck out to me: like, ok, pretty vague. "the magical energies pulled me here" is a crazy use of passive voice LMFAO but sure, pookie ok... sure but this is what really stands out to me: "i abhor the use of blood magic" and "had i the power to control you, i would already have used it". he does not say "no, not blood magic" or "i did not use blood magic" or any real negation. he instead does our favorite, classic fen'harel trickster lie by omission. he is banking on us drawing the conclusion that he didn't use blood magic because he said he abhors it. however!!! we know that he actually does things he abhors on a daily basis such as kill and betray his friends, break up with his girlfriend, and drink tea when necessary. its extra funny because rook literally reminds us of this in the same scene: anyway. i have no clue what hes up to but hes up to something. i love him, but i dont trust him, and i leave you with this: " Look, the moment I saw the gods appear and then they said that Solas was sucked into the Fade without having any agency and is now trapped there, I thought really?
I'm still suspicious of how the dagger wound up in Varric. Solas was holding it when he started holding back the pillars, then he doesn't have it when facing the gods. So, was he stupid enough to drop it? If he lost it with the effort of shoving the pillar away, then it should have shot in that direction, not sideways into Varric.
At the very least I think Solas deliberately jumped through the rift that had been created that allowed through the other two gods. I am also very suspicious of the whole premise leading up to the "failed" re-entrapment of the two gods.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Varric and Rook (or whoever Varric chose to recruit) were in some way part of his "plan" to deal with the gods. Back in Trespasser, he agreed with the Inquisitor that dropping the Veil would release them. Why wouldn't it do that with their "new" prison? So, Rook has to deal with the two gods. However, the world is a blighted mess as a result. How do we deal with that? Oh, I know, drop the Veil and let the magic cleanse the world. That's why he wouldn't tell the Inquisitor why the current world had to die because he said they were too clever and might figure it out. There is a full version of Solas ritual available on youtube, if you aren't averse to spoilers. It explains about the dagger
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Post by colfoley on Oct 3, 2024 11:22:42 GMT
Look, the moment I saw the gods appear and then they said that Solas was sucked into the Fade without having any agency and is now trapped there, I thought really?
I'm still suspicious of how the dagger wound up in Varric. Solas was holding it when he started holding back the pillars, then he doesn't have it when facing the gods. So, was he stupid enough to drop it? If he lost it with the effort of shoving the pillar away, then it should have shot in that direction, not sideways into Varric.
At the very least I think Solas deliberately jumped through the rift that had been created that allowed through the other two gods. I am also very suspicious of the whole premise leading up to the "failed" re-entrapment of the two gods.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Varric and Rook (or whoever Varric chose to recruit) were in some way part of his "plan" to deal with the gods. Back in Trespasser, he agreed with the Inquisitor that dropping the Veil would release them. Why wouldn't it do that with their "new" prison? So, Rook has to deal with the two gods. However, the world is a blighted mess as a result. How do we deal with that? Oh, I know, drop the Veil and let the magic cleanse the world. That's why he wouldn't tell the Inquisitor why the current world had to die because he said they were too clever and might figure it out. There is a full version of Solas ritual available on youtube, if you aren't averse to spoilers. It explains about the dagger I am tempted to see that actually but also not. If you could post the link?
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Post by Reznore on Oct 3, 2024 11:28:47 GMT
The spoiler version of the prologue has been purged by the fire above. You can't see it anymore, scene got cut.
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Post by ellanathehamster on Oct 3, 2024 12:51:16 GMT
Not on tumblr, no Look up there, guys
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Post by illuminated11 on Oct 3, 2024 12:53:32 GMT
Any chance you can post link? I find tumblr about as comprehensible to navigate as Daedalus labyrinth.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Oct 3, 2024 13:38:34 GMT
Oh yeah Game Riot I believe originally uploaded that scene and then I guess he got the visit from the EA men in black, because a few hours later it was snipped out from his playthrough.
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Post by jennica on Oct 3, 2024 13:41:31 GMT
At first i thought that maybe it was more of an accident, but i watched it several times now, and damn, Solas... You really just stabbed Varric.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 3, 2024 17:04:44 GMT
At first i thought that maybe it was more of an accident, but i watched it several times now, and damn, Solas... You really just stabbed Varric. So, I am meant to believe that whole episode at the ritual site wasn't part of his plan? He could have killed Varric when he destroyed Bianca, yet didn't. So, why stab him with the knife? Then he got "accidentally" sucked into the Fade. Remember also that Mythal had a lair in the Fade with an eluvian. Now since the Lighthouse would appear to have been Solas' ancient hideout, that is a separate location. So all he has to do is make his way there and he can walk free. It is not as though he hasn't got plenty of spirit pals in the Fade who would be willing to help him. The whole set up is as fishy as hell.
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Post by Reznore on Oct 3, 2024 17:12:00 GMT
I think Solas is stuck In the Evanuris ancient prison. Without his lyrium kitchen knife he's stuck.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 3, 2024 17:17:18 GMT
I think Solas is stuck In the Evanuris ancient prison. Without his lyrium kitchen knife he's stuck.
Nah, apart from the monochrome appearance, it just seems regular Fade to me. The place he sent them was meant to make them suffer for eternity. He didn't seem to be suffering much to me. Just faking being pissed off with Rook.
After all, if he was really so concerned about the world and his people, why say "oh it's your problem now, you caused it so you fix it." At the very least he should be trying to tell them what to do, even if Rook chooses to ignore him, so unless the exerts we have seen have missed some part of it out, he is up to his old tricks and manipulating them into doing his dirty work for him.
Plus their old prison was failing. So if this is the new one, he must know where it is and the nature of the prison. Still, if breaking the statues allowed them to escape, then that prison is broken.
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Post by Reznore on Oct 3, 2024 17:25:47 GMT
I think Solas is stuck In the Evanuris ancient prison. Without his lyrium kitchen knife he's stuck.
Nah, apart from the monochrome appearance, it just seems regular Fade to me. The place he sent them was meant to make them suffer for eternity. He didn't seem to be suffering much to me. Just faking being pissed off with Rook.
After all, if he was really so concerned about the world and his people, why say "oh it's your problem now, you caused it so you fix it." At the very least he should be trying to tell them what to do, even if Rook chooses to ignore him, so unless the exerts we have seen have missed some part of it out, he is up to his old tricks and manipulating them into doing his dirty work for him.
Plus their old prison was failing. So if this is the new one, he must know where it is and the nature of the prison. Still, if breaking the statues allowed them to escape, then that prison is broken. There must be a talk between Solas/Rook we didn't get to see. Rook says Solas talked about the Lighthouse, we never saw it in any preview.
As for the rest, this is the Blanketfort so I won't say how I feel about Solas and what he's doing.
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Post by jennica on Oct 3, 2024 17:39:36 GMT
I think Solas is stuck In the Evanuris ancient prison. Without his lyrium kitchen knife he's stuck.
Nah, apart from the monochrome appearance, it just seems regular Fade to me. The place he sent them was meant to make them suffer for eternity. He didn't seem to be suffering much to me. Just faking being pissed off with Rook.
After all, if he was really so concerned about the world and his people, why say "oh it's your problem now, you caused it so you fix it." At the very least he should be trying to tell them what to do, even if Rook chooses to ignore him, so unless the exerts we have seen have missed some part of it out, he is up to his old tricks and manipulating them into doing his dirty work for him.
Plus their old prison was failing. So if this is the new one, he must know where it is and the nature of the prison. Still, if breaking the statues allowed them to escape, then that prison is broken. During the conversation with Harding and Neve at the Lighthouse, Rook says that Solas is trapped in some kind of prison. Plus as you said it looked monochrome which is not how Fade usually looks. Maybe it was supposed to be a new prison? And even if Solas knows how to escape, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's easy for him to do so. However, i totally agree that Solas is not telling us everything. He wouldn't be Solas if it was the case.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 3, 2024 17:47:35 GMT
I can just hear my Inky now. "I swear, I take one vacation, and everything goes to SHIT!"
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 3, 2024 17:56:15 GMT
I think Solas is stuck In the Evanuris ancient prison. Without his lyrium kitchen knife he's stuck.
Nah, apart from the monochrome appearance, it just seems regular Fade to me. The place he sent them was meant to make them suffer for eternity. He didn't seem to be suffering much to me. Just faking being pissed off with Rook. IMO the Fade we saw in Rook's dream is not 'colored' by it being a prison, but Solas' (and potentially Rook's) emotional state. After all, they don't have their chat in raw Fade, but in their dreams. The fight is over, the dust hasn't yet settled, and Solas is despondent, angry, and the sequences in the Fade have a pretty overt symbolic meaning. There's a precipice of misunderstanding between us: But I know better than you do what you're about to deal with: This is a serious misunderstanding of Solas' character. This is Solas being Solas - we saw him like this in Inquisition. He's prickly and sarcastic when he's angry or perturbed, and he's speaking to someone who he dislikes or is angry at, but has to work with out of necessity. He said earlier "It took all my power to imprison millennia ago. But I am certain you will be fine" and then "And how could I help? [...] All I can offer is what I know" Him saying "Ghilan'nain and Elgar'nan are your problem to solve" is basically true, but it's also him saying "You'll soon come back crying to seek my counsel, as I know what you're dealing with", which is very likely how Rook - at least initially - reluctantly stays in contact. I think the statues were important predominantly for the ritual.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Oct 3, 2024 17:59:06 GMT
At first i thought that maybe it was more of an accident, but i watched it several times now, and damn, Solas... You really just stabbed Varric. Not only that, but with the lyrium dagger which I’m sure Solas knows what it will end up doing to Varric. That’s what I’m most curious about.
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Post by Iddy on Oct 4, 2024 17:19:55 GMT
I really enjoyed that initial exchange between Solas and Rook. Although it is true he's messed up many times, I still felt that his sassy attitude was justified.
It took him a massive amount of effort and power to seal away the elven gods, but then this total newbie shows up, accidentally releases the Evanuris and has the audacity to talk like s/he knows better.
Ohh no, we're not having that.
In contrast, I think I'm also going to enjoy beating the game as a Grey Warden. I like to imagine Solas' reaction when the world is saved by "one of those fools who never do anything right".
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Oct 5, 2024 3:23:37 GMT
By the way, I find it odd that the writers chose Ghilain'nain to be the other elven god who escapes besides Elgar'nan. Don't get me wrong, they made her look pretty cool. But if two Evanuris is all we're getting, aren't there better options? Maybe Dirthamen, god of knowledge and wisdom. I mean, there's the raven on that map in the upper left, above the griffin, so maybe we shall. Due to some artwork and other visuals in DAI, and the description of his powers we get from Dalish stories, I wonder if Dirthamen actually slipped the leash a long time ago and Solas doesn't know. Only speculation, of course. But if any Evanuris is gonna make a surprise showing and be a wildcard, I'd expect him to be it. Speaking of the map, there's a black sun above Elgar'nan's head (and I think that's what the qunari woman is shielding her eyes from) and I am here for it. I really want to find out what his origin story with the Sun as his father really means. How much is symbolic, how much is literal? I am convinced its tied in to something big. Also, anyone else get Gallows statues vibes from figures in the bottom center? I mean, I suppose you can only show people weeping in despair so many ways, but still. The fact its centered around the idol is cheeky, too, given those visuals. Definitely think the two wolves on either side of Solas are the white and black ones from his tarot cards. And we're gonna get a "which wolf wins? the one you feed" thing with him. Also, the tower from his tower card is next to Elgar'nan, which is interesting. And last, but not least, why is *Manfred* on the map, holding a map? More to that skeleton than meets the eye. I think Solas is stuck In the Evanuris ancient prison. Without his lyrium kitchen knife he's stuck.
Nah, apart from the monochrome appearance, it just seems regular Fade to me. The place he sent them was meant to make them suffer for eternity. He didn't seem to be suffering much to me. Just faking being pissed off with Rook.
Regarding the black and white fade: Monochromatic Fade might be the inside of the black city and hint at the torture being, essentially, sensory deprivation? Spirits took on bodies to experience the world, after all, so it'd be a punishment for them. Plus, 1000s of years like that would suck no matter how you slice it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 5, 2024 7:57:08 GMT
Regarding the black and white fade: Monochromatic Fade might be the inside of the black city and hint at the torture being, essentially, sensory deprivation? Spirits took on bodies to experience the world, after all, so it'd be a punishment for them. Plus, 1000s of years like that would suck no matter how you slice it. I think you have hit upon the key to the torment being that it is located in the Black City. One thing we do know is that the Black City is unlike the rest of the Fade in being every present and unchanging (except when it turned from Golden to Black). So, if they were stuck somewhere they couldn't alter to their own design and had no choice but to accept what was there would have been torment, particularly for someone like Ghil who was creative (June was also said to be a creative spirit), but any powerful being who had formerly been accustomed to bending he world and the people within it to their Will. If my theory is correct about that then I don't think Solas was trapped in the Black City because it did seem to reflect his state of mind but it will be interesting to see if it does change at all over time.
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 5, 2024 8:04:09 GMT
I wonder if Dirthamen actually slipped the leash a long time ago and Solas doesn't know. Only speculation, of course. But if any Evanuris is gonna make a surprise showing and be a wildcard, I'd expect him to be it There was that whole quest associated with the Temple of Dirthamen in DAI, so it is possible he is going to be a wild card. We still don't know what sort of relationship there was between the Evanuris and the Old Gods. The one he would most likely be connected with was Dumat, the god of silence (secrets?) and Dirthamen is depicted with his hands covering his mouth. In which case, it was Dumat/Dirthamen who originally prompted Corypheus to invade the Golden City, thus releasing the Blight, so he had very much done his bit for the cause.
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Post by illuminated11 on Oct 5, 2024 8:39:24 GMT
I assumed the raven was in reference to Morrigan. I’m curious how people would want Dirthamen incorporated into the narrative, though, since we already have three (maybe four if you count Mythal) elven gods to track. And if they did add another, I would have guessed Andruil more likely to appear, given her connection to red lyrium and Ghilan’nain.
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