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Post by midnight tea on Jul 29, 2017 19:31:25 GMT
Just for fun, I like to imagine that if there was a hypothetic Dragon Age: War of the Evanaris game, that Solas would be the PC . 1) "The Dread Wolf" could have easily been the default title for Elven characters of either gender. 2)Solas is a powerful, yet independent player who allies with and betrays major factions, just like we can. 3) Creating the Veil could be reminiscent of classic Bioware endgame sadistic choices . 4) The next couple of millennia could be Bioware's way of cutting off divergent choices. 5) Solas' return could be a Be Careful What You Wish For to players who want previous PCs to return . I was wondering about separate game or book or comic book that would detail the events of Solas's rebellion or earlier events, but I suspect that those events are so intrinsic to the reason why Thedas is how it is, that I think most of it will probably be handled in the main game. Then, after all the shocking twists are revealed, maybe we may get a DLC like Leliana's Song that could feature Solas as playable character to run us through more of his personal story...
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 29, 2017 20:22:16 GMT
I'll admit it is pure speculation and there is no way of knowing for certain when humans arrived in relation to the Veil. However, it was hinted right back in DAO that there was a time with humans and elves living together yet apparently worshipping elven gods. At the time we were told the style of architecture was Tevinter but we now know that most of Tevinter buildings were re-purposed buildings from the elven empire with the obvious references to elves removed, so what modern Thedas people think of as ancient Tevinter architectural style was in fact ancient elven architectural style.
It is also true there could have been a time lag between the Veil going up and the elves realising their loss of immortality (but not their loss of magical ability). Dalish lore does suggest a vague memory of this somehow being associated with losing the gods since it is said that whilst they don't know exactly what happened it is believed the gods deemed them not worthy of their long lives (for associating with humans) and there is a different thread of Dalish belief which teaches that "when we remember what it is to be true elves" the gods will return. This always struck me as slightly odd if you know that they have been permanently shut away by Fen'Harel. However, if Solas drops the Veil then presumably they will "remember" what it is to be a true elf (restored or at least that is what Solas hopes) and their gods will also return. I always wondered if this latter thread of belief was something spread by followers of Fen'Harel, although that would mean they knew he ultimately intended to reverse his action.
I'm inclined to believe the reason humans were thought responsible for the quickening is either they were around at the time of the Evanuris and first humans arrived so close to the disappearance of the gods and the quickening that it was assumed there was some connection, or alternatively the various elven settlements adopted the same survival technique as the Sentinels and entered Uthenera, only awakening from their slumber when disturbed. This latter theory meant that the Veil could have gone up at any time but it was when the Tevinter Imperium was expanding that they were disturbed for a prolonged period of time and first noticed that they were aging and dying, so naturally assumed it was because of the contact with humans. Cleary the tales about the ancient city of Arlathan, which bears strong resemblance to the memories in the Library, did get mixed up with the memory of the war with Tevinter and the destruction of the city in the forest of that name. No doubt that city was probably linked in some way with the ancient capital of the elven empire but it was not actually the real Arlathan, which clearly bridged the Fade and the real world.
I'm still trying to work out why, if they weren't expecting some sort of restoration of the world of the elves, the various groups would have entered uthenera. Even the Sentinels only make sense if they were expecting Mythal to return to them at some point in the future. Abelas does question if a god can truly die when Morrigan dismisses the idea of being bound to her will and Solas seemed to regard the living nature of the inner sanctum as proof that Mythal still lived, so it does seem likely they were expecting her to return at some point. Hence why they continued to guard the Well of Sorrows but not why they simply abandoned it, unless of course Abelas did recognise Solas for what he was and realised the time had now come. Certainly his words to Abelas suggest as much (since their meaning is different from what Solas tells us). Except, of course, that Solas is not necessarily in the party when you go to the Well of Sorrows. Otherwise for what reason were they maintaining the Well of Sorrows since clearly it was not to aid the "shadows wearing vallaslin"?
Questions, questions, so many questions. I hope at least some of them are answered in the next game.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jul 29, 2017 21:17:29 GMT
I'll admit it is pure speculation and there is no way of knowing for certain when humans arrived in relation to the Veil. However, it was hinted right back in DAO that there was a time with humans and elves living together yet apparently worshipping elven gods. At the time we were told the style of architecture was Tevinter but we now know that most of Tevinter buildings were re-purposed buildings from the elven empire with the obvious references to elves removed, so what modern Thedas people think of as ancient Tevinter architectural style was in fact ancient elven architectural style. It is also true there could have been a time lag between the Veil going up and the elves realising their loss of immortality (but not their loss of magical ability). Dalish lore does suggest a vague memory of this somehow being associated with losing the gods since it is said that whilst they don't know exactly what happened it is believed the gods deemed them not worthy of their long lives (for associating with humans) and there is a different thread of Dalish belief which teaches that "when we remember what it is to be true elves" the gods will return. This always struck me as slightly odd if you know that they have been permanently shut away by Fen'Harel. However, if Solas drops the Veil then presumably they will "remember" what it is to be a true elf (restored or at least that is what Solas hopes) and their gods will also return. I always wondered if this latter thread of belief was something spread by followers of Fen'Harel, although that would mean they knew he ultimately intended to reverse his action. I'm inclined to believe the reason humans were thought responsible for the quickening is either they were around at the time of the Evanuris and first humans arrived so close to the disappearance of the gods and the quickening that it was assumed there was some connection, or alternatively the various elven settlements adopted the same survival technique as the Sentinels and entered Uthenera, only awakening from their slumber when disturbed. This latter theory meant that the Veil could have gone up at any time but it was when the Tevinter Imperium was expanding that they were disturbed for a prolonged period of time and first noticed that they were aging and dying, so naturally assumed it was because of the contact with humans. Cleary the tales about the ancient city of Arlathan, which bears strong resemblance to the memories in the Library, did get mixed up with the memory of the war with Tevinter and the destruction of the city in the forest of that name. No doubt that city was probably linked in some way with the ancient capital of the elven empire but it was not actually the real Arlathan, which clearly bridged the Fade and the real world. I'm still trying to work out why, if they weren't expecting some sort of restoration of the world of the elves, the various groups would have entered uthenera. Even the Sentinels only make sense if they were expecting Mythal to return to them at some point in the future. Abelas does question if a god can truly die when Morrigan dismisses the idea of being bound to her will and Solas seemed to regard the living nature of the inner sanctum as proof that Mythal still lived, so it does seem likely they were expecting her to return at some point. Hence why they continued to guard the Well of Sorrows but not why they simply abandoned it, unless of course Abelas did recognise Solas for what he was and realised the time had now come. Certainly his words to Abelas suggest as much (since their meaning is different from what Solas tells us). Except, of course, that Solas is not necessarily in the party when you go to the Well of Sorrows. Otherwise for what reason were they maintaining the Well of Sorrows since clearly it was not to aid the "shadows wearing vallaslin"? Questions, questions, so many questions. I hope at least some of them are answered in the next game.A thousand yesses to this. One of these days I want to replay DAI and write down a list of all the stuff I want answers/explanations for, and see how many of them get resolved in DA4.
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Post by Elessara on Jul 30, 2017 0:34:28 GMT
I'll admit it is pure speculation and there is no way of knowing for certain when humans arrived in relation to the Veil. However, it was hinted right back in DAO that there was a time with humans and elves living together yet apparently worshipping elven gods. At the time we were told the style of architecture was Tevinter but we now know that most of Tevinter buildings were re-purposed buildings from the elven empire with the obvious references to elves removed, so what modern Thedas people think of as ancient Tevinter architectural style was in fact ancient elven architectural style. It is also true there could have been a time lag between the Veil going up and the elves realising their loss of immortality (but not their loss of magical ability). Dalish lore does suggest a vague memory of this somehow being associated with losing the gods since it is said that whilst they don't know exactly what happened it is believed the gods deemed them not worthy of their long lives (for associating with humans) and there is a different thread of Dalish belief which teaches that "when we remember what it is to be true elves" the gods will return. This always struck me as slightly odd if you know that they have been permanently shut away by Fen'Harel. However, if Solas drops the Veil then presumably they will "remember" what it is to be a true elf (restored or at least that is what Solas hopes) and their gods will also return. I always wondered if this latter thread of belief was something spread by followers of Fen'Harel, although that would mean they knew he ultimately intended to reverse his action. I'm inclined to believe the reason humans were thought responsible for the quickening is either they were around at the time of the Evanuris and first humans arrived so close to the disappearance of the gods and the quickening that it was assumed there was some connection, or alternatively the various elven settlements adopted the same survival technique as the Sentinels and entered Uthenera, only awakening from their slumber when disturbed. This latter theory meant that the Veil could have gone up at any time but it was when the Tevinter Imperium was expanding that they were disturbed for a prolonged period of time and first noticed that they were aging and dying, so naturally assumed it was because of the contact with humans. Cleary the tales about the ancient city of Arlathan, which bears strong resemblance to the memories in the Library, did get mixed up with the memory of the war with Tevinter and the destruction of the city in the forest of that name. No doubt that city was probably linked in some way with the ancient capital of the elven empire but it was not actually the real Arlathan, which clearly bridged the Fade and the real world. I'm still trying to work out why, if they weren't expecting some sort of restoration of the world of the elves, the various groups would have entered uthenera. Even the Sentinels only make sense if they were expecting Mythal to return to them at some point in the future. Abelas does question if a god can truly die when Morrigan dismisses the idea of being bound to her will and Solas seemed to regard the living nature of the inner sanctum as proof that Mythal still lived, so it does seem likely they were expecting her to return at some point. Hence why they continued to guard the Well of Sorrows but not why they simply abandoned it, unless of course Abelas did recognise Solas for what he was and realised the time had now come. Certainly his words to Abelas suggest as much (since their meaning is different from what Solas tells us). Except, of course, that Solas is not necessarily in the party when you go to the Well of Sorrows. Otherwise for what reason were they maintaining the Well of Sorrows since clearly it was not to aid the "shadows wearing vallaslin"? Questions, questions, so many questions. I hope at least some of them are answered in the next game.A thousand yesses to this. One of these days I want to replay DAI and write down a list of all the stuff I want answers/explanations for, and see how many of them get resolved in DA4. How much does anyone want to bet that for every one question answered another 10 get raised?
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Post by DragonRacer on Jul 30, 2017 2:04:49 GMT
I feel myself slowly getting drawn back towards the Hellspiral. With the resurgence of DA talk from the devs on Twitter, I've been thinking about Solas again. I... I may need to fire up a new DAI playthrough and doom another Lavellan to heartbreak and tragic, wistful, post-Trespasser hope against hope. I mean, I've been so deep into The Elder Scrolls Online these days... and then I ran across Dead Wolf Inn... and swear to God, I at first read it as "Dread Wolf Inn" and my heart did a quick stop/flutter before I realized what it actually was/the actual game I was in. :sob:
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jul 30, 2017 3:44:00 GMT
I feel myself slowly getting drawn back towards the Hellspiral. With the resurgence of DA talk from the devs on Twitter, I've been thinking about Solas again. I... I may need to fire up a new DAI playthrough and doom another Lavellan to heartbreak and tragic, wistful, post-Trespasser hope against hope. I mean, I've been so deep into The Elder Scrolls Online these days... and then I ran across Dead Wolf Inn... and swear to God, I at first read it as "Dread Wolf Inn" and my heart did a quick stop/flutter before I realized what it actually was/the actual game I was in. :sob: My brain read that as "Dread Wolf Inn" when you typed it. XD We can't get away. Its not just a hellspiral. Its a black hole.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jul 30, 2017 3:52:02 GMT
I feel myself slowly getting drawn back towards the Hellspiral. With the resurgence of DA talk from the devs on Twitter, I've been thinking about Solas again. I... I may need to fire up a new DAI playthrough and doom another Lavellan to heartbreak and tragic, wistful, post-Trespasser hope against hope. I mean, I've been so deep into The Elder Scrolls Online these days... and then I ran across Dead Wolf Inn... and swear to God, I at first read it as "Dread Wolf Inn" and my heart did a quick stop/flutter before I realized what it actually was/the actual game I was in. :sob: My brain read that as "Dread Wolf Inn" when you typed it. XD We can't get away. Its not just a hellspiral. Its a black hole. Haha! So did mine. I can't even finish my second Lavellan play through because I know what's coming, and I enjoy seeing his romanced tarot too much to progress to the blackness.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 30, 2017 11:30:37 GMT
I feel myself slowly getting drawn back towards the Hellspiral. With the resurgence of DA talk from the devs on Twitter, I've been thinking about Solas again. I... I may need to fire up a new DAI playthrough and doom another Lavellan to heartbreak and tragic, wistful, post-Trespasser hope against hope. I mean, I've been so deep into The Elder Scrolls Online these days... and then I ran across Dead Wolf Inn... and swear to God, I at first read it as "Dread Wolf Inn" and my heart did a quick stop/flutter before I realized what it actually was/the actual game I was in. :sob: Ha, another ESO player! PC perhaps? If so, if you feel like meeting another BSNer there, lemme know. I'm on sort of a semi-break, but I log in almost every day and now that I have a mouse that's not half-broken and fiber-optic Internet I intend to go back to more regular playing and dungeoning. I'm a fairly competent player who's done some serious raiding and know how to play each role well, so I can help around with running group content or with something requiring assistance, or join group for some casual PVP, or aid with crafting.
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Post by DragonRacer on Jul 30, 2017 15:06:34 GMT
I feel myself slowly getting drawn back towards the Hellspiral. With the resurgence of DA talk from the devs on Twitter, I've been thinking about Solas again. I... I may need to fire up a new DAI playthrough and doom another Lavellan to heartbreak and tragic, wistful, post-Trespasser hope against hope. I mean, I've been so deep into The Elder Scrolls Online these days... and then I ran across Dead Wolf Inn... and swear to God, I at first read it as "Dread Wolf Inn" and my heart did a quick stop/flutter before I realized what it actually was/the actual game I was in. :sob: My brain read that as "Dread Wolf Inn" when you typed it. XD We can't get away. Its not just a hellspiral. Its a black hole. Black hole suuuuuun, won't you cooooome, and wash the raaaaain awaaaaaaaaaay... I feel myself slowly getting drawn back towards the Hellspiral. With the resurgence of DA talk from the devs on Twitter, I've been thinking about Solas again. I... I may need to fire up a new DAI playthrough and doom another Lavellan to heartbreak and tragic, wistful, post-Trespasser hope against hope. I mean, I've been so deep into The Elder Scrolls Online these days... and then I ran across Dead Wolf Inn... and swear to God, I at first read it as "Dread Wolf Inn" and my heart did a quick stop/flutter before I realized what it actually was/the actual game I was in. :sob: Ha, another ESO player! PC perhaps? If so, if you feel like meeting another BSNer there, lemme know. I'm on sort of a semi-break, but I log in almost every day and now that I have a mouse that's not half-broken and fiber-optic Internet I intend to go back to more regular playing and dungeoning. I'm a fairly competent player who's done some serious raiding and know how to play each role well, so I can help around with running group content or with something requiring assistance, or join group for some casual PVP, or aid with crafting. Would love to take you up on your offer, but, sadly, I am on PS4.
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Post by Solas on Jul 30, 2017 17:02:02 GMT
Hello my friends! I'm only stopping by to tell you that I named my home base in Fortnite after this thread - the Blanket Fort! Also, I want to give you a bunny-gif because... bunnies are love, bunnies are life!
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Post by fylimar on Jul 30, 2017 18:22:41 GMT
Hello my friends! I'm only stopping by to tell you that I named my home base in Fortnite after this thread - the Blanket Fort! Also, I want to give you a bunny-gif because... bunnies are love, bunnies are life! Bunnies are the best animals in the world
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Post by morir_a_solas on Jul 31, 2017 3:25:14 GMT
Just for fun, I like to imagine that if there was a hypothetic Dragon Age: War of the Evanaris game, that Solas would be the PC . 1) "The Dread Wolf" could have easily been the default title for Elven characters of either gender. 2)Solas is a powerful, yet independent player who allies with and betrays major factions, just like we can. 3) Creating the Veil could be reminiscent of classic Bioware endgame sadistic choices . 4) The next couple of millennia could be Bioware's way of cutting off divergent choices. 5) Solas' return could be a Be Careful What You Wish For to players who want previous PCs to return . I was wondering about separate game or book or comic book that would detail the events of Solas's rebellion or earlier events, but I suspect that those events are so intrinsic to the reason why Thedas is how it is, that I think most of it will probably be handled in the main game. Then, after all the shocking twists are revealed, maybe we may get a DLC like Leliana's Song that could feature Solas as playable character to run us through more of his personal story... That'd be awesome! Though it might be a long shoot since a lot of ppl hate Solas, but maybe as they did it on Assassins Creed Syndicate with the Jack the Reaper DLC (I feel like I don't want to say much not to spoil it) but it seems like it might work out
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Post by close2myheart on Jul 31, 2017 4:42:34 GMT
Come DA4 (or what it is the title might be on the next game) what's the speculation so far regarding solas? - would we be facing the Fen'Harel side of him? - would he be the main antagonist like corypheus ? - or something else entirely..?
Honestly, there isn't a single antagonist (if you can call it that) in ANY game that kept me in awe like he does. He certainly out wit everyone in DAI. Everyone was busy hunting down an evil ancient magister wielding a magical glowing ball, when the orignal owner of said foci is busy painting (and plotting) at our homebase! XD Well played, Solas. To me, he really lives up the title of Evanuris. Makes me wonder if we'd ever get another character like him again. Made me curious about the other Pantheon, at least. Mythal has patience (that spans through millenia) and endurance. Fen'Harel has wits. Both are awsome, but have different flavour from one another. Wonder what Elgar'nan, Falon Din, Andruil and the rest have in store?
I didn't even romance the dude, but I'm pretty psyched for his return in the next installment.
I hope in some way, we may have some influence in setting the tone of our encounter with him later on. Between an IQ he loves and respect, and other with the one he hates. And I sincerelly hope BW don't make him into another Corypheus X(
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 31, 2017 9:43:19 GMT
I was wondering about separate game or book or comic book that would detail the events of Solas's rebellion or earlier events, but I suspect that those events are so intrinsic to the reason why Thedas is how it is, that I think most of it will probably be handled in the main game. Then, after all the shocking twists are revealed, maybe we may get a DLC like Leliana's Song that could feature Solas as playable character to run us through more of his personal story... That'd be awesome! Though it might be a long shoot since a lot of ppl hate Solas, but maybe as they did it on Assassins Creed Syndicate with the Jack the Reaper DLC (I feel like I don't want to say much not to spoil it) but it seems like it might work out IF DAO could get a DLC where we can play darkspawn I think the chance ain't small that we may be getting a DLC where we can play a character which portion of fanbase hates With that said - it may be that we may play through Solas's rebellion, but maybe as one of Fen'HArel's agents? Maybe we could play Felassan?
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Post by close2myheart on Jul 31, 2017 9:44:17 GMT
I vote for being an agent for Fen'Harel
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 31, 2017 11:14:22 GMT
The problem with a game like that is that you already know what happens but if they did it like Darkspawn Chronicles then there is scope for an alternate history, a "what if" scenario. So we know that Solas created the Veil and shut away the Evanuris but what if he failed to entrap them all or what if the Veil didn't work, etc?
Of course we don't know for certain that the Veil did work entirely. Physically the Evanuris are removed from the world but mentally/spiritually? Could they be the "hushed whispers" that communicated with the early Magisters? Were they the "dead whispers" that Corypheus encountered in the Black City? Could the Keeper of Secrets (Dirthamen) and the Lord of the Fade (Falon'Din) really have been so easily deceived? Was Solas, the ultimate chess player, actually out-manoeuvred without knowing it? Was the raising of the Veil not "check-mate" but merely "check" so far as his opponents were concerned? Mythal has the patience to wait out the millennia, who is to say the other gods aren't the same? What is worse, if they aren't napping and are actively plotting their revenge, they have had an awful long time to perfect their plans.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 31, 2017 13:56:00 GMT
The problem with a game like that is that you already know what happens but if they did it like Darkspawn Chronicles then there is scope for an alternate history, a "what if" scenario. So we know that Solas created the Veil and shut away the Evanuris but what if he failed to entrap them all or what if the Veil didn't work, etc? It's hardly a problem. We knew how Leliana's Song would end, but we were shown what exactly led to it. Kinda the same with Trespasser - we already knew that Solas is the Dread Wolf and we'd meet somewhere along the way; the 'juicy stuff' were all the things we discovered along the way, which includes finding out that Solas is the one who's created the Veil. It could be the same with this theoretical DLC... or comic book or book or whatever. The goal wouldn't be 'find out what happens', but 'find out how it happened'. I'd say that it's not beyond realm of possibility that thy're whispering through the Fade. Or they could be behind whispers in Red Lyrium. I'd also say that the Veil may indeed be the 'check', but in a sense that it was part of a bigger plan - that Solas assumed that so long as he survives to be awakened, it means it's not the end of his mission. However, I wouldn't say that Mythal had the patience to wait through millenia, because for millenia - according to Felemeth's words - she 'crawled through the ages' to her (and that's ignoring the fact that her fate was different from that of Evanuris). So it took her a while to even get herself to the world of the living and then it probably took her centuries to set up things and gather power. It's possible that it happened to others as well - that the perhaps began awakening or chipping through their prison only some time ago and it has been marked by some events in history (whispers of Old Gods that reached humans maybe?). So they may have not have as much time as you suggest - it may be that they too awoke (in some fashion) 'still weak' like Solas, hence they need lackeys to do their bidding (like Magisters Sidereal were for Old Gods). It's also possible that somebody is helping them regain strength or get them released from their prisons... Maybe this is why elves across South have disappeared? Maybe that's the goal of elves in Tirashan? Hard to say. I worry about the Dalish, because if they begin whispering to them, a lot may follow their voices. There may also be entities, groups or agents we don't know about that will show up at some point (maybe those are Executors). I even wonder whether Inquisitor may turn out to be their more or less willing pawn - after all, they may offer a way or truce in order to stop Solas. It'd be interesting if we got a proposition like that and see how it unfolds.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 1, 2017 9:51:25 GMT
I also worry about the Dalish because I think they are being set up to be the fall guys in the Solas plot. However, the majority do seem to have a wariness concerning spirits so just because some entity starts talking to them from the Fade, claiming to be their long lost gods or a servant of them, should not necessarily mean they jump at the chance to help. More likely they will be tricked into helping, rather as Thelhen was by Felassan (because you can't tell me that it was merely co-incidence that Thelhen was trying to gain access to the network that Felassan had been ordered to gain control of) or an individual will turn up who is a revived member of the priesthood of one of the other gods and successfully convince them or his authenticity. However, in the latter case the writers are then going to have to explain what this individual/his community have been doing all this time and also, if they know about Mythal's murder and the Veil as a construct to entrap the Evanuris, why this information was not more widely known at the time so it beaome part of the oral folklore. Otherwise, how do they know about it now?
Having been made aware of the situation, whether or not the Dalish wish to stop Solas may depend on their own personal morals and also clarification on whether they are likely to survive his plan. Clearly if they are going to perish, they will likely embrace stopping him, although it is just possible that some fanatics may be willing to sacrifice themselves in order to release their gods, so they will want him to succeed in his plan to drop the Veil (and free the gods) but will want to ensure that his other "plans" to deal with the gods do not succeed.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Aug 2, 2017 4:54:47 GMT
I've been watching FluffyNinjaLlama's Dorian romance videos tonight and got to thinking: as much as we Solas fans would like our Inquisitors to play some role in DA4, especially for the final showdown with Solas, how weird would it be for Dorianmancers to be playing as someone in Tevinter, with Dorian possibly an ally or advisor, and not have/see their Inquisitors there with him? It would make sense for the Inquisitors who kept the Inquisition under the Divine, I guess, but it really doesn't make much sense for a disbanded Inquisition Inquisitor. I know Dorian told their amatus not to go to Tevinter, because he wants to fix the place himself, but still - where else would the Inquisitor plausibly be if there's no official Inquisition for them to be managing anymore?
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 2, 2017 8:25:09 GMT
I've been watching FluffyNinjaLlama's Dorian romance videos tonight and got to thinking: as much as we Solas fans would like our Inquisitors to play some role in DA4, especially for the final showdown with Solas, how weird would it be for Dorianmancers to be playing as someone in Tevinter, with Dorian possibly an ally or advisor, and not have/see their Inquisitors there with him? It would make sense for the Inquisitors who kept the Inquisition under the Divine, I guess, but it really doesn't make much sense for a disbanded Inquisition Inquisitor. I know Dorian told their amatus not to go to Tevinter, because he wants to fix the place himself, but still - where else would the Inquisitor plausibly be if there's no official Inquisition for them to be managing anymore? If Inquisitor romances Dorian, we even get a epilogue card that mentions people seeing Inky on streets of Minrathous, heading to help Dorian ("Magister Pavus's allies said that his greatest strength lay in the lover he left in the South, but still conversed with via message crystal. Some claimed to have seen the Inquisitor on the streets of Minrathous on rare occasions, sneaking into the heart of Tevinter to aid his amatus."). I'd say that the suggestion is that, if we indeed move to Tevinter, visit Minrathous and work with Dorian, they're not just going to be a mere mention in conversation.
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Post by arvaarad on Aug 2, 2017 14:10:32 GMT
I've been watching FluffyNinjaLlama's Dorian romance videos tonight and got to thinking: as much as we Solas fans would like our Inquisitors to play some role in DA4, especially for the final showdown with Solas, how weird would it be for Dorianmancers to be playing as someone in Tevinter, with Dorian possibly an ally or advisor, and not have/see their Inquisitors there with him? It would make sense for the Inquisitors who kept the Inquisition under the Divine, I guess, but it really doesn't make much sense for a disbanded Inquisition Inquisitor. I know Dorian told their amatus not to go to Tevinter, because he wants to fix the place himself, but still - where else would the Inquisitor plausibly be if there's no official Inquisition for them to be managing anymore? A bas saarebas who bore a Qunari dreadnought down on the the Venatori, and whose current hobby is pranking nobles with the Jennies? Imagine the scandal! ...although, come to think of it, that's exactly why he'd want to show up. Preferably unannounced. His library nerd boyfriend loves surprises!
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Post by lilyenachaos on Aug 2, 2017 14:38:07 GMT
Between Solas & Dorian, there are plenty of reasons for me to want my Inquisitors in the next game. I don't think we're going to get them, but I really wish we would.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 2, 2017 16:08:51 GMT
Of course there is the opposite problem, what about the Inquisitor who punched Solas and Dorian? In Trespasser Dorian seems willing to "do the right thing" and help out such a person (I assume since I haven't played that sort of Inquisitor only see their meeting on You Tube), seeing as he is there on behalf of Tevinter anyway, but I really wonder how willing he would be to assist once back in Tevinter. That sort of Inquisitor also rules out the amulet playing a role because Dorian never gives them one to maintain contact. So the need to cover all bases almost seems to rule out the Inquisitor making an appearance at all in that scenario.
I am a Dorianmancer and I must admit that not to see him in Tevinter at all, when the epilogue quite clearly states that he does sneak in from time to time to help Dorian, would seem a bit odd, particularly as I did disband the Inquisition. However, if they give a plausible explanation for his absence I'll go with it provided the romance is acknowledged by Dorian/the Game.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 2, 2017 18:03:38 GMT
Of course there is the opposite problem, what about the Inquisitor who punched Solas and Dorian? In Trespasser Dorian seems willing to "do the right thing" and help out such a person (I assume since I haven't played that sort of Inquisitor only see their meeting on You Tube), seeing as he is there on behalf of Tevinter anyway, but I really wonder how willing he would be to assist once back in Tevinter. That sort of Inquisitor also rules out the amulet playing a role because Dorian never gives them one to maintain contact. So the need to cover all bases almost seems to rule out the Inquisitor making an appearance at all in that scenario. I am a Dorianmancer and I must admit that not to see him in Tevinter at all, when the epilogue quite clearly states that he does sneak in from time to time to help Dorian, would seem a bit odd, particularly as I did disband the Inquisition. However, if they give a plausible explanation for his absence I'll go with it provided the romance is acknowledged by Dorian/the Game. I don't see how he wouldn't be willing to work with Inquisitor if world's fate is at stake. Dorian (or the rest who make an appearance) may dislike Inky after main game, but will risk his life and follow through eluvians in Trespasser - I don't see it being different in DA4. The speaking crystal can still make an appearance too - at that point it would not be acquired because of friendship/romance, but due to practical reasons.
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