The Blanketfort (crying and throwing up) - The Official Solas Thread [Spoilers]

Oh I agree with you about that. It also feeds into my idea that Flemeth particularly wanted to save Urthemiel because he was the alter ego of June and the latter had knowledge how to create things that far surpassed that of any of the other Evanuris. To give a possible example, apparently the elves integrated lyrium into their architecture. Tevinter are aware of this but no one in the history of the Imperium was able to replicate it. Thus, it would seem to be a lost art of the elvhen. Mythal was known for her cities so it is possible she was the one with the knowledge or perhaps she was the one who worked with June and encouraged him to develop this art. Certainly, since the residual memory in the Dalish is of June as the god of crafting and even the text in the Vir'Dirthara describes him as "clever", I think that he, and possibly his followers/apprentices, possessed a lost art of creating magical structures and items. Also, it is likely that each Evanuris had their own specialism in which they surpassed the others. I know Sylaise's followers tried to suggest that her abilities were superior in every respect but that was just likely sycophantic praise on their part. The only thing she really surpassed them in was in the knowledge and use of fire. That is why she needed to ask a favour of June and then got her followers to make the Grand Sollenium as a thank you gift, presumably because she knew that was something he would appreciate.

The thing is he had the opportunity to observe all those things with the Inquisition. You didn't have to romance him for him to be able to see how we worked together. Yet, even after the Temple of Mythal, he was still disapproving if you said you would take the advice of others rather than just relying on your own judgement. The fact that he is one step removed may make him more judgmental and not prepared to trust other people rather than less. Much will depend on how much he needs to use us to achieve his aims but I have no doubts that is what he will be trying to do. He will be back to the wise, reasonable friend he presented himself as at the beginning of Inquisition. Yes, he will have knowledge that we will need if we are to defeat the other two but I am going to be very wary of following his advice without question.

I wonder if he will admit to Rook about his merge with Mythal. We know that as players but so far as we know, nobody else in world does. Is there going to be a time when suddenly she will come to the fore (like Justice with Anders) or will she always stay in the background?

Oh...I've definitely noticed.  Just trying desperately to keep expectations in check. 

Did he actually absorb what was left of the spirit of Mythal?  Or did he just take her power?

Side question, was it ever revealed what she was sending through the eluvian when Solas went to talk to her at the end of Inquisition?

I don't necessarily believe she's been sending something *through* the eluvian - I think it's likely that she's been pushing something *into* the eluvian.

Not only because the watery figure that emerged from the Well Of Sorrows seems to have jumped into the mirror, not just because the eluvian network is clearly important (and IMO, it's not just because it's an extremely efficient transportation system), but because Cole said that some sort of entities are sleeping, masked IN a mirror - and I have a feeling he's been talking about eluvians here as well.

I've always liked the theory that it's Urthemial's soul, although it can get wonky in timelines where the OGB doesn't exist. But I like to think Flemeth found a way even if the ritual wasn't done.

MAY BE IN SPOILER TERRITORY, ALTHOUGH PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK SO AND THIS WAS JUST AN ERROR ON THE PART OF THE WRITER OF THE EDGE ARTICLE. HOWEVER, JUST IN CASE, READ WITH CAUTION.

I just wanted to point out how easily misinformation can be conveyed unintentionally by people posting on line who aren't such sticklers for the lore as I am. Mr Hulthen is commenting on the recent Edge article. Now he pulls up screen shots of the article which he wants to comment on. He starts by focusing on a part where the author of the article quotes John Epler. At 1:44 it says this:

So I would be interested to hear what you think. Was this the writer showing their ignorance of the story or did John Epler actually let something slip to them?

A related question regarding elven immortality. Solas has lived for millennia because he was in Uthenera. The Sentinels in the Arbor Wilds were the same. Abelas says they only wake to repel invaders and with each invasion their numbers diminish. Is that simply because they are killed or because each time they age a little more? I've often wondered and debated in the past whether Solas' urgency and determination to remove the Veil is because those pockets of ancient ones are slowly dying. Certainly the ones sleeping this side of the Veil but possibly also those in pocket realms in the Crossroads, because whilst the barrier is thinner there, it does exist. Also, the Inquisitor (under certain conditions) can sense the Crossroads are breaking down, presumably through insufficient magic from the Fade to maintain them, and when they collapse altogether those currently sleeping there will die too. This is why Solas is so determined to save his People and feels it cannot be accomplished any other way? Abelas also said this in the hidden writings:
"We are trapped. The ones born here do not understand the keenness of what we have lost, or why so many of their elders weep as they enter uthenera. The new ones are faithful to Mythal, but do not understand what she was in her fullness. Without the wise to lead them, they will lose what they should have been."
This seems to echo what Solas was saying in Trespasser. "The Veil took everything from the elves. Even themselves." Perhaps he does recognise the tragedy of the Dalish, trying desperately to preserve something they do not fully understand. It is as though they instinctively know they should be something more but don't remember what it is. I've said before that it is ironic that the Dalish teach that the gods will return when they remember what it is to be a true elf, when the reality is that they will not remember what it is to be a true elf until the gods return (the Veil is removed). Also, I notice that in the original story of Fen'Harel as told by Gisharel, he admits:

The legend says that before the fall of Arlathan, the gods we know and revere fought an endless war with others of their kind. There is not a hahren among us who remembers these others: Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of Geldauran and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence. In ancient times, only Fen'Harel could walk without fear among both our gods and the Forgotten Ones, for although he is kin to the gods of the People, the Forgotten Ones knew of his cunning ways, and saw him as one of their own.

So, he acknowledges that the gods were fighting an endless war and that Fen'Harel put at end to it, so that does seem to confirm what Solas said, that his actions saved the world because an endless war would result in the destruction of all. However, he also says that none of the Elders of the clans remember the details, only even knowing the names of the Forgotten Ones from their dreams and presumably what their nature was. So, as Solas says, if you are learning about history from spirits of the Fade, you can get two completely different accounts of the same event. Alternatively, those speaking to them in their dreams could be the Evanuris from their prisons or their high priests in Uthenera.

The Lighthouse is said to be Solas refuge. Was this actually the place where he slept out the millennia I wonder? Anyway, it made me wonder if being on the Thedas side of the Veil automatically removes immortality in some way. Flemeth only survived as she did because Mythal knew how to cheat death.
It does seem to me that Solas' determination to remove the Veil can be only down to one of two reasons, or possibly both:
a. He needs to restore elven immortality before the last of the ancient ones dies or what they were will truly be forgotten and his people will become extinct.
b. The blight will destroy the world if it is not cleansed with an injection of magic.

The second problem may well be something we can solve with the right information but the first one, if true, is a bigger conundrum.

The Dread Wolf Take You! Looks like he will be batting for us against the gods, in the Void perhaps?

Looks like he is going to give Rook a hard time about his ritual. I hope I will be allowed to say: "Well if you'd just told someone what you were doing, may be I wouldn't have done." My Rook is definitely not taking any Sass from him if I'm allowed a rebuttal.

There were two dragons. Could be the elven gods transformed into their alter egos or even a different set of dragon gods come to our aid (or theirs), in which case that would be Razikale and Lusacan. Basically lots of dragons. Also Fen'Harel in his wolf form. Flemeth did say the reckoning would shake the very heavens.

I thought the wolf form would be....bigger. The Mortalitasi in Tevinter Nights said he was the size of a high dragon. I'm not saying it isn't fucking fantastic, just not what I was prepared for.

Also, that deep throaty growl he did was kinda sexy as hell.