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Post by MeadKnight on Sept 19, 2024 20:16:36 GMT
Vallaslin-less Lavellans as default Inky? It's like the game is already trying to say something ;D I noticed that too! Bioware is cooking today.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 19, 2024 20:17:18 GMT
Vallaslin-less Lavellans as default Inky? It's like the game is already trying to say something ;D That is another small check in the plus column.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 20, 2024 7:37:45 GMT
And suddenly, spoilers don't really seem to matter at all. On a more general note then, I was thinking that the most appropriate background to play would be an elf mage Shadow Dragon. Since this is taken from the CC at the very beginning of the game, I don't really see it as a spoiler but will put the rest under spoiler just in case. They have said that Rook will remind Solas of himself. However, whilst the other faction backgrounds have them as something of a maverick, there are real parallels in a Shadow Dragon:
They were adopted into a military family - Solas was likely called from the Fade to become part of Mythal's military forces. They accompany a dignitary on an important mission into enemy territory - Solas would appear to have been bodyguard or spymaster for Mythal They successfully rescue a group of slaves and return with them to safety - Solas rescues slaves and frees them from Evanuris control. As a result of their actions they draw the attention their enemies, the mage elite Venatori - Solas is dubbed Fen'Harel by the Evanuris The leaders of the Shadow Dragons recommend they go into hiding/keep a lower profile, so they join the Veilguard and end up fighting the elven gods - Solas becomes a rebel leader but often working in disguise as he seeks to undermine the rule of the elven gods.
I can certainly see the parallels there between the two and so my Rook would too and likely be more sympathetic to Solas as a result.
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Post by Kymira on Sept 20, 2024 19:19:16 GMT
Solas lookin' like a FADE SNACC.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 21, 2024 15:40:51 GMT
I just saw the CC vid. Definitely going to be in there for half my playtime.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 21, 2024 17:00:07 GMT
One of the folks who went to the event said that someone they brought to the demo spent 2 hours or so in CC and the Bioware devs who were there literally had to tell them that it's time to do something else instead.... welp, I'd probably be the same
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 21, 2024 17:03:15 GMT
One of the folks who went to the event said that someone they brought to the demo spent 2 hours or so in CC and the Bioware devs who were there literally had to tell them that it's time to do something else instead.... welp, I'd probably be the same Two hours? Amateur! I'd be the same too. I'll be lucky if I get out of there in two days.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 21, 2024 17:28:30 GMT
Okay, what kind of monster choses to say Solas refuses to help his own people? Seriously! Damn, he looks good, though. Still like him better without hair, but...whew.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 21, 2024 17:31:36 GMT
Okay, what kind of monster choses to say Solas refuses to help his own people? Seriously! Damn, he looks good, though. Still like him better without hair, but...whew. Yes, I thought that was unreasonable. I will criticise Solas when I think it is fair but that seemed off to me. What was he meant to do? Mind you we only saw the outcome for the option where you don't say he should heal them. May be if he tries and fails, our companion would be a bit more sympathetic. To be honest I thought they were infected with the Blight, so how could he heal them? May be I misunderstood. Also, I don't think that person fully appreciated the limits of godly powers (because I am sure they do have limits) and also that he actually denied he was a god. Perhaps neither Rook nor their companions know that yet.
The hair is growing on me (no pun intended) now I've seen it from other angles. I'd still have preferred black but he does look pretty good.
Also, at that point in time his follower called him Wolf, not Dread Wolf.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 21, 2024 17:57:14 GMT
Okay, what kind of monster choses to say Solas refuses to help his own people? Seriously! Damn, he looks good, though. Still like him better without hair, but...whew. Yes, I thought that was unreasonable. I will criticise Solas when I think it is fair but that seemed off to me. What was he meant to do? Mind you we only saw the outcome for the option where you don't say he should heal them. May be if he tries and fails, our companion would be a bit more sympathetic. To be honest I thought they were infected with the Blight, so how could he heal them? May be I misunderstood. Also, I don't think that person fully appreciated the limits of godly powers (because I am sure they do have limits) and also that he actually denied he was a god. Perhaps neither Rook nor their companions know that yet.
The hair is growing on me (no pun intended) now I've seen it from other angles. I'd still have preferred black but he does look pretty good.
Also, at that point in time his follower called him Wolf, not Dread Wolf. I assume the agent's injury had something to do with blight. But I think Solas would at least try to help.
The hair color is...not what I would pick? I was hoping for something closer to his concept art. Dark auburn or brown. It's fine, though.
Yeah, I'm not sure about this new nickname. Wolf. Hmm. Perhaps it's just too new to my ears.
Is this memory of Ghil pre-apotheosis? Interesting. Was she one of his agents who turned on him? Is it the angles of her face he can carve from memory? So many questions!
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 21, 2024 18:13:44 GMT
Okay, what kind of monster choses to say Solas refuses to help his own people? Seriously! Damn, he looks good, though. Still like him better without hair, but...whew. FF14 related spoilers about the DA spoilers and Solas in particular in that video... Is it just me or do I see some Emet-Selch/Ascian influence in the silhouette of those robes he's wearing? Most easily seen when he tells Rook to leave so they don't "see what I must do".
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 21, 2024 18:16:32 GMT
Yes, I thought that was unreasonable. I will criticise Solas when I think it is fair but that seemed off to me. What was he meant to do? Mind you we only saw the outcome for the option where you don't say he should heal them. May be if he tries and fails, our companion would be a bit more sympathetic. To be honest I thought they were infected with the Blight, so how could he heal them? May be I misunderstood. Also, I don't think that person fully appreciated the limits of godly powers (because I am sure they do have limits) and also that he actually denied he was a god. Perhaps neither Rook nor their companions know that yet.
The hair is growing on me (no pun intended) now I've seen it from other angles. I'd still have preferred black but he does look pretty good.
Also, at that point in time his follower called him Wolf, not Dread Wolf. I assume the agent's injury had something to do with blight. But I think Solas would at least try to help.
The hair color is...not what I would pick? I was hoping for something closer to his concept art. Dark auburn or brown. It's fine, though.
Yeah, I'm not sure about this new nickname. Wolf. Hmm. Perhaps it's just too new to my ears.
Is this memory of Ghil pre-apotheosis? Interesting. Was she one of his agents who turned on him? Is it the angles of her face he can carve from memory? So many questions! I think we can at least safely say Ghilly was a spirit of creativity. Not sure about her being the betrayal that burned him anymore by that clip. Like, he was clearly upset with her, but it doesn't scream "I can carve betrayal's face from memory and now I can't trust anyone anymore" to me. Hmm. I always leaned towards the idea that the "her" in his quote was Mythal and her *being* betrayed and murdered was the betrayal he meant. Like he could still remember the shock on her face, essentially. Or just could still remember her face and was reminded everytime that those she trusted (perhaps including her mate and children) killed her for power.*
*As far as he knows. I still think his luck means he misjudged at least one of them.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 21, 2024 18:17:46 GMT
Okay, what kind of monster choses to say Solas refuses to help his own people? Seriously! Damn, he looks good, though. Still like him better without hair, but...whew. FF14 related spoilers about the DA spoilers and Solas in particular in that video... Is it just me or do I see some Emet-Selch/Ascian influence in the silhouette of those robes he's wearing? Most easily seen when he tells Rook to leave so they don't "see what I must do". Oh, kind of! I hadn't noticed that. Cool.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 21, 2024 18:27:39 GMT
It's also interesting what his agent said. "You are greater than any of them." Is that just a bit of idol worship, or could he actually be the strongest of the gods? Ugh...are we there yet???
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Sept 21, 2024 18:41:59 GMT
It's also interesting what his agent said. "You are greater than any of them." Is that just a bit of idol worship, or could he actually be the strongest of the gods? Ugh...are we there yet??? I mean... while the others murdered one of their own in the name of their magic boost juice supply, he sundered reality. So, kind of, probably? xD
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 21, 2024 18:45:52 GMT
It's also interesting what his agent said. "You are greater than any of them." Is that just a bit of idol worship, or could he actually be the strongest of the gods? Ugh...are we there yet??? I mean... while the others murdered one of their own in the name of their magic boost juice supply, he sundered reality. So, kind of, probably? xD A good point.
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Post by rekkampum on Sept 22, 2024 3:12:35 GMT
And suddenly, spoilers don't really seem to matter at all. On a more general note then, I was thinking that the most appropriate background to play would be an elf mage Shadow Dragon. Since this is taken from the CC at the very beginning of the game, I don't really see it as a spoiler but will put the rest under spoiler just in case. They have said that Rook will remind Solas of himself. However, whilst the other faction backgrounds have them as something of a maverick, there are real parallels in a Shadow Dragon:
They were adopted into a military family - Solas was likely called from the Fade to become part of Mythal's military forces. They accompany a dignitary on an important mission into enemy territory - Solas would appear to have been bodyguard or spymaster for Mythal They successfully rescue a group of slaves and return with them to safety - Solas rescues slaves and frees them from Evanuris control. As a result of their actions they draw the attention their enemies, the mage elite Venatori - Solas is dubbed Fen'Harel by the Evanuris The leaders of the Shadow Dragons recommend they go into hiding/keep a lower profile, so they join the Veilguard and end up fighting the elven gods - Solas becomes a rebel leader but often working in disguise as he seeks to undermine the rule of the elven gods.
I can certainly see the parallels there between the two and so my Rook would too and likely be more sympathetic to Solas as a result. The whole Solas and Mythal dynamic re: the Evanuris is going to be interesting to see parsed out, because while he obviously did not have slaves from what we know - considering he lacks his own Vallaslin - Mythal did and still does in a sense. It's going to be very hard to see this dynamic of her being the best of them like he said in Trespasser and him working for or with her in the past given how strong he is about the Qun and even Lavellan potentially wearing Vallaslin despite it being ages removed from its original purpose.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 22, 2024 21:26:13 GMT
Vallaslin-less Lavellans as default Inky? It's like the game is already trying to say something ;D Apparently this isn't necessarily the case. It appears they've retconned the "Solas romanced Inky is the only one without vallaslin" thing. I guess any elven inky can be barefaced now? I don't know for sure, but it looks like it.
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Post by jennica on Sept 22, 2024 21:31:05 GMT
I admit, i always hated that only fem Lavellan who romanced Solas could remove her vallaslin. So i'm glad that Bio gave an option to other Lavellans too.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 22, 2024 21:34:13 GMT
I admit, i always hated that only fem Lavellan who romanced Solas could remove her vallaslin. So i'm glad that Bio gave an option to other Lavellans too. That's fine, it just makes me wonder what else they'll retcon.
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Post by celestielf on Sept 22, 2024 21:40:23 GMT
I admit, i always hated that only fem Lavellan who romanced Solas could remove her vallaslin. So i'm glad that Bio gave an option to other Lavellans too. Or they're ignoring the context of vallaslin removal and what it means for a Dalish person in favor of it being a purely aesthetic choice, which I wouldn't really be a fan of. Maybe I do feel a little salty because the vallaslin removal was one of the only special cinematics the Solas romance got (no repeatable kisses, no sex scene, no marriage etc) and now it isn't even tied to the romance, but something that can just happen off screen for any Lavellan who presumably chases down the magic/a mage to do it.
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Post by jennica on Sept 22, 2024 21:44:04 GMT
I admit, i always hated that only fem Lavellan who romanced Solas could remove her vallaslin. So i'm glad that Bio gave an option to other Lavellans too. That's fine, it just makes me wonder what else they'll retcon. it's not necessarily a retcon. It's been 10 yesrs since Inquisition and Inky might've simpy found a way to remove vallaslin without Solas.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 22, 2024 21:46:27 GMT
That's fine, it just makes me wonder what else they'll retcon. it's not necessarily a retcon. It's been 10 yesrs since Inquisition and Inky might've simpy found a way to remove vallaslin without Solas. Like I said, it's whatever. I feel like it cheapens that scene and takes away something that was specifically Solavellan, but that's a me thing.
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Post by DragonRacer on Sept 22, 2024 23:41:11 GMT
it's not necessarily a retcon. It's been 10 yesrs since Inquisition and Inky might've simpy found a way to remove vallaslin without Solas. Like I said, it's whatever. I feel like it cheapens that scene and takes away something that was specifically Solavellan, but that's a me thing. Not just a you thing. I also agree.
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