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Post by stealthfox94 on Jan 12, 2018 16:11:03 GMT
I know this sounds ridiculous, but if EA and Bioware have truly lost interest in making Mass Effect games, maybe they should cut their losses and sell the franchise. EA has shown that they aren't invincible recently so this might be the best thing to do. Public outcry against EA is becoming more common each day.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 12, 2018 16:21:37 GMT
Yes it would, but it won't happen. What would most likely happen is it would end up rotting away on the shelf.
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Post by mannyray on Jan 12, 2018 17:22:16 GMT
I know this sounds ridiculous, but if EA and Bioware have truly lost interest in making Mass Effect games, maybe they should cut their losses and sell the franchise. EA has shown that they aren't invincible recently so this might be the best thing to do. Public outcry against EA is becoming more common each day. Best for who? Fans? Maybe. Other game publishers still follow the "throw it out there and patch it later maybe" ethos to varying to degrees so perhaps. To be blunt, the public outcry over what amounts to a game franchise with a somewhat large cult following doesn't mean much and for EA, chucking the brand wouldn't be good business. Public consensus doesn't reflect what you're asserting.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 12, 2018 17:24:06 GMT
I know this sounds ridiculous, but if EA and Bioware have truly lost interest in making Mass Effect games, maybe they should cut their losses and sell the franchise. EA has shown that they aren't invincible recently so this might be the best thing to do. Public outcry against EA is becoming more common each day. For ME yes it probably would but I don't think EA will it's too profitable in other words they probably will feel they can get more money by keeping it than by selling it on.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Jan 12, 2018 17:53:07 GMT
I know this sounds ridiculous, but if EA and Bioware have truly lost interest in making Mass Effect games, maybe they should cut their losses and sell the franchise. EA has shown that they aren't invincible recently so this might be the best thing to do. Public outcry against EA is becoming more common each day. Best for who? Fans? Maybe. Other game publishers still follow the "throw it out there and patch it later maybe" ethos to varying to degrees so perhaps. To be blunt, the public outcry over what amounts to a game franchise with a somewhat large cult following doesn't mean much and for EA, chucking the brand wouldn't be good business. Public consensus doesn't reflect what you're asserting. Be honest I was mostly referring to Battlefront 2. MEA might be considered a cult classic, some day.
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Post by mannyray on Jan 12, 2018 18:03:27 GMT
Best for who? Fans? Maybe. Other game publishers still follow the "throw it out there and patch it later maybe" ethos to varying to degrees so perhaps. To be blunt, the public outcry over what amounts to a game franchise with a somewhat large cult following doesn't mean much and for EA, chucking the brand wouldn't be good business. Public consensus doesn't reflect what you're asserting. Be honest I was mostly referring to Battlefront 2. MEA might be considered a cult classic, some day. Hey I agree about Battlefront 2. I enjoyed the gameplay during the free trial-- space as well as ground, but in light of the pay to win model I protested with my wallet and passed on buying it until the ritalin kids who dropped shit tons of cash to get ahead before playing a single match find a new shiny thing to wage wallet war in. The thing is, there's no indication that it would be good business for them to sell of the Mass Effect franchise at all. EA is so bloated and huge that this serious PR disaster that was the lootbox moneygrab for A 60 DOLLAR ALREADY FUCKING GAME is just a bruise that they can outlive as long as they don't attempt it multiple times over multiple franchises. Madden is one thing, Star Wars is another.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 12, 2018 18:31:43 GMT
I don’t see how this would be good for EA at all. It would in no way change public opinion of them; only shifts in practices and what their products offer consumers will, but the IP has more potential to make them much more than what they’d get out of selling it.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 12, 2018 18:46:37 GMT
No.
EA knows ME makes money. EA likes money. ME has a lot of fans. There will be another ME game.
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Post by cypherj on Jan 12, 2018 19:04:48 GMT
I don't know if they've lost interest, I believe EA said that if they bring ME back it would need to be something relevant and fresh.
To me that means this game didn't work, so we need to come up with something new that fans will be excited about, and we don't know what that is yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 19:28:11 GMT
Depends on who the new developer would be. Dontnod or Spiders on a big budget might actually do something new and different with the IP.
I'd be heartbroken if I'd never be able to visit the Mass Effect universe again. I know I know I'm a blind fanboy blah blah.
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 12, 2018 21:09:09 GMT
Sell to who, exactly?
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Post by urkibalurki on Jan 12, 2018 21:19:55 GMT
Are you trying to buy it yourself? One or two billion dollars and that's it.
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Post by traks on Jan 12, 2018 21:22:24 GMT
No, ME needs Casey Hudson.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 12, 2018 21:36:36 GMT
No, ME needs Casey Hudson. More, it needs Chris L'etoile. But whatever happens do NOT sell it to Disney!
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Post by guanxi on Jan 12, 2018 22:39:53 GMT
Microsoft is in desperate need of more platform exclusive flagship titles, particularly RPGs and really should consider licensing the rights from EA to Microsoft Game Studios who are one of very few who would have the means and the capability to do the series justice. There is absolutely nothing like Mass Effect in their portfolio, it is potentially a killer-app they could prise out of EA's hands for a rock-bottom price and the series originated on Microsoft platforms. It ticks all the boxes; there's genuine means, motive, & opportunity there for all party's involved, it would make perfect sense imo.
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Post by natetrace on Jan 12, 2018 22:46:23 GMT
I think it's more likely they outsource development. I thought they might sell it off until they created the archives. I doubt they would put the effort into creating a site like that just to sell it off.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 12, 2018 23:41:36 GMT
I know this sounds ridiculous, but if EA and Bioware have truly lost interest in making Mass Effect games, maybe they should cut their losses and sell the franchise. EA has shown that they aren't invincible recently so this might be the best thing to do. Public outcry against EA is becoming more common each day. Except they haven't lost interest in making Mass Effect games. Even after Mass Effect Andromeda was announced to not be getting any DLC both Bioware and EA explicitedly stated they are still interested in the franchise and want to go back again someday.
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Post by tatann on Jan 12, 2018 23:48:40 GMT
Depends on who the new developer would be. Dontnod or Spiders on a big budget might actually do something new and different with the IP. I'd be heartbroken if I'd never be able to visit the Mass Effect universe again. I know I know I'm a blind fanboy blah blah. A Mass Effect game made by Spiders (with the appropriate budget) would be great (I find Technomancer better written than MEA) but they're specialized in melee/powers gameplay, I don't know if they can do a good 3rd person shooter. I wouldn't dislike playing a melee/tech character like ME3MP's Paladin through
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Post by Iakus on Jan 13, 2018 0:19:54 GMT
I know this sounds ridiculous, but if EA and Bioware have truly lost interest in making Mass Effect games, maybe they should cut their losses and sell the franchise. EA has shown that they aren't invincible recently so this might be the best thing to do. Public outcry against EA is becoming more common each day. Except they haven't lost interest in making Mass Effect games. Even after Mass Effect Andromeda was announced to not be getting any DLC both Bioware and EA explicitedly stated they are still interested in the franchise and want to go back again someday. Are they interested in the franchise, or are they just interested in making scifi shooters, though?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 0:38:39 GMT
Depends on who the new developer would be. Dontnod or Spiders on a big budget might actually do something new and different with the IP. I'd be heartbroken if I'd never be able to visit the Mass Effect universe again. I know I know I'm a blind fanboy blah blah. A Mass Effect game made by Spiders (with the appropriate budget) would be great (I find Technomancer better written than MEA) but they're specialized in melee/powers gameplay, I don't know if they can do a good 3rd person shooter. I wouldn't dislike playing a melee/tech character like ME3MP's Paladin through More midter developers like them should exist. Thats where most of the interesting ips come from. Spiders actually made me care what was going on in The Technomancer. Bound by Flame had me in stitches with how laughably bad the voice acting was. Still liked it though. I am also one of the 10 people that played mars warlogs.
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Post by sil on Jan 13, 2018 1:30:30 GMT
I don't know if they've lost interest, I believe EA said that if they bring ME back it would need to be something relevant and fresh. To me that means this game didn't work, so we need to come up with something new that fans will be excited about, and we don't know what that is yet. Funny thing is, people aren't looking for relevant and fresh, most people seem to want ME1 RPG depth, ME2 side missions and characters, and ME3 combat and storyline. Perhaps if they focused on story and gameplay instead of games-as-service they would get more sales.
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Post by invisibleman on Jan 13, 2018 3:50:02 GMT
i loved technomancer, though the camera & camera lock functionality really destroyed the gameplay for me. after about the first 10 minutes getting my @$$ kicked the moment i decide to take a walk, mainly because the camera positioning always sucked, i just stopped locking the camera on things and well... i found for me the game actually plays better... as long as you don't use guardian at all. i just hope that if they do somehow get their hands on mass effect, they have the capabilities to do it justice. however, i doubt EA would let it slip through it's fingers, even after a necromancer can't bring it back, long after the next hatchet job EA does to mass effect.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 13, 2018 5:18:55 GMT
More midter developers like them should exist. Thats where most of the interesting ips come from. Spiders actually made me care what was going on in The Technomancer. Bound by Flame had me in stitches with how laughably bad the voice acting was. Still liked it though. I am also one of the 10 people that played mars warlogs. The benefit those smaller developers have is there isn't the same level of expectations on them. They can make a game that might sell a few thousand copies and the players are willing to accept the drawbacks of a game developed for their niche of playstyle. Looking at games like Andromeda you can always see the wishlish of things that a developer "must do" to make the game sell. If BioWare took a more mid-tier type of development it would be panned because of the negatives that are included in making that game aimed at a more niche audience. Its the same with BioWare prior to EA, when they were making smaller more targeted games like Mass Effect people were willing to look past the negatives that the game had and play it. Such as being much shorter then any game after EA came into the picture. Repeated dialogue regardless of the choice you made, side missions that had very little randomness to it for example the UNC missions only had four bases used just different layouts inside of modular items. Compare the reaction to those UNC missions to how people reacted to BioWare reusing a handful of dungeons with different entry points in Dragon Age 2. Another risk with mid-tier is even with a success it might not be profitable. Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice is being toted to being the forebear of a new generation of games, but if the information AskAGameDev gave is accurate the game barely broke even after the golden three months. Overall right now to me the biggest problem mid-tier development has is being noticed. I was really hoping when Valve was going to allow more games to be on their platform it would mean that there could be a new wave of smaller studios. I grew up in the 486 era and remember the shareware phase of development, but there isn't really a way to get noticed anymore. Too many people have the "Steam or bust" attitude for I have listened to podcasts over the years where people wouldn't even bother with a code to get a game for free because it wasn't on Steam. Now the problem is there is too much on Steam and you cannot find quality unless it becomes a massive hit, but that requires word of mouth and to be noticed first for the last two years Valve has in my eyes become a dumping ground.
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Post by abaris on Jan 13, 2018 12:21:41 GMT
MEA might be considered a cult classic, some day. It's neither bad nor good enough to be considered cult. It's one of the countless mediocre games out there. Fun to play once, but easily forgotten.
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Post by tatann on Jan 13, 2018 12:55:15 GMT
A Mass Effect game made by Spiders (with the appropriate budget) would be great (I find Technomancer better written than MEA) but they're specialized in melee/powers gameplay, I don't know if they can do a good 3rd person shooter. I wouldn't dislike playing a melee/tech character like ME3MP's Paladin through More midter developers like them should exist. Thats where most of the interesting ips come from. Spiders actually made me care what was going on in The Technomancer. Bound by Flame had me in stitches with how laughably bad the voice acting was. Still liked it though. I am also one of the 10 people that played mars warlogs. A friend and I also played Mars War Logs (really liked it too but Technomancer is superior, which is promising), it means I only have 7 more people to find to know the entire player base !
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