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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jan 18, 2018 5:57:28 GMT
It makes no sense to sell an IP this well-know ( now in a bad way nonetheless), but I wouldn't mind a world where CD Projekt Red has it since BioWare can't pull an absolutely fantastic game out of their asses anymore.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 18, 2018 6:56:05 GMT
It makes no sense to sell an IP this well-know ( now in a bad way nonetheless), but I wouldn't mind a world where CD Projekt Red has it since BioWare can't pull an absolutely fantastic game out of their asses anymore. I am curious what have they done to indicate they can make a non-fixed protagonist sci-fi ranged combat game to you? Everything about the Witcher games feels like the opposite of what Mass Effect is to me.
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Post by starlord on Jan 18, 2018 7:03:12 GMT
It makes no sense to sell an IP this well-know ( now in a bad way nonetheless), but I wouldn't mind a world where CD Projekt Red has it since BioWare can't pull an absolutely fantastic game out of their asses anymore. I am curious what have they done to indicate they can make a non-fixed protagonist sci-fi ranged combat game to you? Everything about the Witcher games feels like the opposite of what Mass Effect is to me. Well, we will all know soon enough as Cyberpunk 2077 will be coming out in the next couple of years. I've never touched a Witcher game, but it looks intriguing to say the least. I, for one, wish Bioware still relied more on story and world building. It seems like a lot of their focus on writing is gone with Andromeda. (Of course Anthem might surprise me. Idk if I'm being nostaglic here, probably am, but I would freak out if DONTNOD's Vampyr spurs a new Vampire the Masquerade-like RPG in the modern era (or new interested in a V:TM revival game). I was wistfully thinking about how Obsidian or old school Bioware would've thrived with such a supernatural heavy IP today and it made me very sad.
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Post by LadyCass on Jan 18, 2018 8:39:39 GMT
Well, for one, they make no odds about the idea that buying ships is a way to support development of the game. They also get a bunch by selling subscriptions which get you access to a private forum, some free decorations for your hangar and a magazine every month.
Also, it has been said over and over that all ships will be available once the game goes live, by playing the game, rather than spending money.
The people who have gone in by so much money aren't being scammed. They could just wait and work for the ships, but either they want to play with them now (Star Citizen is playable to backers, though still in alpha) or they simply want to further support the development of the game.
Limited edition sales by the way, does not mean that the ship won't be in the game to buy with in-game money, just that you can no longer buy it with actual money.
Now, criticisms about whether backers' money is being well spent is a whole 'nother discussion, but I don't think that anyone is under any illusions of what they're buying.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jan 18, 2018 17:59:30 GMT
It makes no sense to sell an IP this well-know ( now in a bad way nonetheless), but I wouldn't mind a world where CD Projekt Red has it since BioWare can't pull an absolutely fantastic game out of their asses anymore. I am curious what have they done to indicate they can make a non-fixed protagonist sci-fi ranged combat game to you? Everything about the Witcher games feels like the opposite of what Mass Effect is to me. I dunno man, maybe the fact that they only made amazing games and the last one being the one with most GOTYs ever? Just look at Guerrilla and HZD. They had zero history with RPGs, you only need talented developers thus such good game. BioWare lacks that. CD doesn't. I mean, with BioWare's whole RPG story, explain to me the success of Andromeda.
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Post by Arcian on Jan 19, 2018 11:47:23 GMT
Best for who? Fans? Maybe. Other game publishers still follow the "throw it out there and patch it later maybe" ethos to varying to degrees so perhaps. To be blunt, the public outcry over what amounts to a game franchise with a somewhat large cult following doesn't mean much and for EA, chucking the brand wouldn't be good business. Public consensus doesn't reflect what you're asserting. Be honest I was mostly referring to Battlefront 2. MEA might be considered a cult classic, some day. MEA does have some of the qualities of The Room.
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Post by Superhik on Jan 19, 2018 17:24:07 GMT
No idea why they keep releasing books, anyone even buying this? Telltale would prob jump at opportunity to do something with it.
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Post by linksocarina on Jan 19, 2018 19:38:38 GMT
No. EA knows ME makes money. EA likes money. ME has a lot of fans. There will be another ME game. Matter of when vs if... Considering the current trajectory of things...might be next generation of consoles to pass first.
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Post by linksocarina on Jan 19, 2018 19:40:32 GMT
It probably should happen more often. No sense hanging on to an IP you're not gonna use. Most companies don't because even if they are not making games for it, they still get revenue for sales of said games down the line, plus possible royalties and such. More IP = more diverse portfolio, more chances for revenue and possible series re-imaginings and revivals. IConsider Syndicate, Deus Ex and X-Com as a few examples of that.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jan 19, 2018 19:55:25 GMT
More midter developers like them should exist. Thats where most of the interesting ips come from. Spiders actually made me care what was going on in The Technomancer. Bound by Flame had me in stitches with how laughably bad the voice acting was. Still liked it though. I am also one of the 10 people that played mars warlogs. A friend and I also played Mars War Logs (really liked it too but Technomancer is superior, which is promising), it means I only have 7 more people to find to know the entire player base ! I also played and enjoyed Mars War Logs. Technomancer was superior in almost every way. the only thing War Logs did better was World Building. The entire game of War Logs was dedicated to establishing this new IP and Setting, with a giant codex filled with information. Information which is totally absent in Technomancer, so anyone who plays Technomancer and never touched War Logs, has absolutely no idea how in depth and thought out that setting really is. I spent hours in the War Logs codex.
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Post by abaris on Jan 19, 2018 20:36:58 GMT
They had zero history with RPGs, you only need talented developers thus such good game. BioWare lacks that. CD doesn't. Most ofall they need direction and the freedom to follow their vision. I wouldn't say Bioware lacks good devs. What they lacked (according to the kotaku article) was direction. They were sent on a fools errand for the better part of four years and patched the final product up in 18 months tops.
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Post by starlord on Jan 19, 2018 21:26:21 GMT
They had zero history with RPGs, you only need talented developers thus such good game. BioWare lacks that. CD doesn't. Most ofall they need direction and the freedom to follow their vision. I wouldn't say Bioware lacks good devs. What they lacked (according to the kotaku article) was direction. They were sent on a fools errand for the better part of four years and patched the final product up in 18 months tops. Casey Hudson is back and, I think, he's working on Anthem? I don't want to put all my hopes onto this man, especially with the ending of ME3 still lingering in my head- but he might help with the direction aspect of Mass Effect. What worries me though, in all honesty, is Anthem. We all know what EA likes to do with Multiplayer games. People believe that they tried to get the Sims 4 to be a multiplayer game, which completely goes against everything The Sims stood for outside of the Sims Online which kinda bombed. EA is so hellbent on cooperative play that it is damaging good companies and good games, despite the glaring obvious successes and/or anticipation of single player games like Horizon, Spider-Man, Last of Us, Uncharted, Fallout, etc. People are still mad about Andromeda and that can only hurt Anthem unless it knocks it out of the park on the jump and gets people on board.... and the past problems with Elder Scrolls Online, Destiny, etc. have only proven that it may be super difficult for that to actually happen. What sucks is I liked Andromeda, for the most part, but playing ME2 has made some glaring problems come to light. All I can say with upmost certainty is that kind of open world is not the mechanic for Mass Effect point blank. They need something like Persona 5 with hubs and places of interest, and focus on making them lively as possible with lots of stuff to do. I strongly believe a more streamlined experience like ME2 or 3 would really be a step in the right direction.
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Post by abaris on Jan 19, 2018 21:43:24 GMT
We all know what EA likes to do with Multiplayer games. What they like are microtransactions. Pay full price for the skeleton of a game and pay up to advance your progress. They already showed their cards with their latest Star Wars game and their loot boxes. Only a fundamental shitstorm made them withdraw for the time being. Anthem will be on the same lines. I have zero interest in that game and I'm not die hard Bioware fan enough to care if they paint themselves into a corner. There will be other developers picking up where they left. Bioware is an EA division, plain and simple and EA can make them do the limbo dance if it pleases them. They can also slap the Bioware label on every studio and game that strikes their fancy.
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Post by starlord on Jan 19, 2018 22:37:05 GMT
We all know what EA likes to do with Multiplayer games. What they like are microtransactions. Pay full price for the skeleton of a game and pay up to advance your progress. They already showed their cards with their latest Star Wars game and their loot boxes. Only a fundamental shitstorm made them withdraw for the time being. Anthem will be on the same lines. I have zero interest in that game and I'm not die hard Bioware fan enough to care if they paint themselves into a corner. There will be other developers picking up where they left. Bioware is an EA division, plain and simple and EA can make them do the limbo dance if it pleases them. They can also slap the Bioware label on every studio and game that strikes their fancy. If Bioware gets put under by EA, I'll be super pissed. If that extreme instance were to happen, then I'd hope that Bioware pulls a lazarus like American Mcgee and fights EA to make their games through fan demand (looking at you Alice: Asylum!) media.giphy.com/media/oyIYo4EQ9YNgI/giphy.gifI hope that Mass Effect and Dragon Age continue to live on. There haven't been many games that have made me feel the way Mass Effect makes me feel. Even Andromeda had it's moments. It would be a shame to see the company close.
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Post by warden on Jan 19, 2018 23:00:04 GMT
BioWare has been dead for years, the only thing that remains to see is for how much time EA will continue to use the corpse to keep making fast an easy money with the name.
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Post by Guts on Jan 20, 2018 6:10:39 GMT
I am curious what have they done to indicate they can make a non-fixed protagonist sci-fi ranged combat game to you? Everything about the Witcher games feels like the opposite of what Mass Effect is to me. I dunno man, maybe the fact that they only made amazing games and the last one being the one with most GOTYs ever? Just look at Guerrilla and HZD. They had zero history with RPGs, you only need talented developers thus such good game. BioWare lacks that. CD doesn't. I mean, with BioWare's whole RPG story, explain to me the success of Andromeda. I also think of Creative Assembly with Alien: Isolation. Creative Assembly generally did the Total War games, haven't played those so I can't comment on it, and Alien: Isolation was terrifying. Another example: Hideo Kojima and P.T. (is #Fuckonami still a thing?).
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 24, 2018 11:33:23 GMT
Yes. Sell it to Viscer...oh wait. Sell it to Rocksteady...(nah i dont want a mako-only game.) Um... CDPR-- ah fuck no, it's not really their style and they'd make everything like ME3 with autodialogue and too few choices. Can't they sell it to BioWare of 10 years ago and then put them in a time machine?
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 24, 2018 15:55:16 GMT
Yes. Sell it to Viscer...oh wait. Sell it to Rocksteady...(nah i dont want a mako-only game.) Um... CDPR-- ah fuck no, it's not really their style and they'd make everything like ME3 with autodialogue and too few choices. Can't they sell it to BioWare of 10 years ago and then put them in a time machine? I'm glad someone else feels that way about CDPR. They undoubtedly are a force to be reckoned with and TW3 really is a great game, but there's something about Mass Effect as we know it that I think would clash with their sensibilities. I just don't really see them doing the sort of pulpy space opera thing particularly well. Personally I still see Bio's main team doing it pretty well, even if it's not its 10-years-ago self.
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Post by Superhik on Jan 24, 2018 16:37:47 GMT
A few k more hours of cryptomining and I'll be rich enough to buy it from them. Then it's only a matter of who and when.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jan 24, 2018 17:00:01 GMT
A few k more hours of cryptomining and I'll be rich enough to buy it from them. Then it's only a matter of who and when. That's provided your riches don't implode in that bubble, leaving your cyberupees unable to even buy you a nice couch in Habbo.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 24, 2018 23:14:37 GMT
Yes. Sell it to Viscer...oh wait. Sell it to Rocksteady...(nah i dont want a mako-only game.) Um... CDPR-- ah fuck no, it's not really their style and they'd make everything like ME3 with autodialogue and too few choices. Can't they sell it to BioWare of 10 years ago and then put them in a time machine? I'm glad someone else feels that way about CDPR. They undoubtedly are a force to be reckoned with and TW3 really is a great game, but there's something about Mass Effect as we know it that I think would clash with their sensibilities. I just don't really see them doing the sort of pulpy space opera thing particularly well. Personally I still see Bio's main team doing it pretty well, even if it's not its 10-years-ago self. After their growth from TW1, 2 and then 3 I definitely believe CDPR would be able to do space opera, the problem is just that I don't think their DNA fits Mass Effect, and personally I think that while TW3 has these beautifully fluid and almost always good-looking facial animations I much prefer the fastness of ME2 - which was the peak for me. Its cinematography, its scale and choice-wheels, nothing in TW2 or 3 ever felt like that to me. In fact I thought TW3's dialogue system was way too slow and doesn't give you the sense of being in a playable movie like Mass Effect does. The key to Mass Effect's kinds of dialogue trees isn't just that it's voiced or RPG-esque with different tones... it's that it is arranged so it keeps the flow going directly in the cinematics. Even if it stops and waits for your responses the selection of them is always so quickly picked up and paraphrases so concise that you can keep up and play the whole thing like a real cutscene. To me that was always way more appealing and why I'm a big defender of the dialogue wheel whenever people get pissy that they can't make the character say exactly what they thought they were going to say.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Jan 26, 2018 16:45:43 GMT
More importantly, who has the large enough capital to inherit such a gigantic franchise which you know EA won't let go cheaply? Some potential contestants: 1. Ubisoft - Slowly refining their open-world creation skills in the last few years to perfection. They can do it, but it'll be way cheaper for them to just start a brand new space sci-fi franchise of their own instead 2. Sony - They already have a shit ton of PS titles to take care of so it's gonna be a simple 'no thanks' from them 3. Nintendo - It's all about the Switch now, yea... 4. Activision - With that many CoD games in a row and some other random mediocre games on the side are you seriously counting on them to make something decent outta it? 5. Microsoft - Contradicts with the Halo and Gears of War franchises so again 'no thanks' 6. Bethesda - Will the day come for them to finally stop working on Fallout/TES/Doom? 7. Take Two - R* will always be onto the next GTA, or Red Dead Redemption so maybe one of the 2K studios can take up the project at some point 8. Bandai Namco - Don't mind a bit of anime styled stuff added? Then these are the guys 9. Capcom/Sega - Probably gets even less B-grade production and ends up with a C-grade product 10. Some other Asian studios like Tencent/Nexon? You'll end up with a whole bunch of silly mobile games instead and I bet that's definitely not what you and I want for ME I'm open to more suggestions, but the idea looks grim. Eidos? I don't know what their resources and other commitments are like, but structurally, the two new Deus Ex games share some similarities with Mass Effect. The big differences are: (1) more stealth, (2) no squad, and (3) Jensen's implants taking the place of a traditional RPG level-up system. More stealth might actually be a good thing, as the cookie-cutter battles in the name of MOAR SHOOTING can sometimes get kind of tiresome in ME games. The other two could be modified to fit a Mass Effect premise easily enough. Plus, both games focused on medium-size, well-designed environments and advancing the storyline over simply throwing in content in the name of "more and bigger," which it seems like most of us agree was a problem with Andromeda compared to the shorter Shepard trilogy games. And Jensen's dialogue choices could have easily fit into a Bioware dialogue wheel.
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