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Post by Sanunes on Jan 21, 2018 13:14:38 GMT
ME:A can be blitzed through relatively quickly, can't it? You have to play a much lower percentage of the content than you have to play in any of the trilogy games. It can be for I have tried to do a quick playthrough for you can skip a lot of things. The problem is at least for me the world design for it is still feels like it drags on for you have to still drive across the map for the missions. It has been about a year since I attempted a quick playthrough so it isn't fresh in my mind I just remember feeling bored trying to accomplish the task. If the warp system was designed differently I probably would think differently.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 21, 2018 13:38:21 GMT
ME:A can be blitzed through relatively quickly, can't it? You have to play a much lower percentage of the content than you have to play in any of the trilogy games. It can be for I have tried to do a quick playthrough for you can skip a lot of things. The problem is at least for me the world design for it is still feels like it drags on for you have to still drive across the map for the missions. It has been about a year since I attempted a quick playthrough so it isn't fresh in my mind I just remember feeling bored trying to accomplish the task. If the warp system was designed differently I probably would think differently. You mean, lettings us skip it like we can in-system? Oh yeah, and the goddamned landing/taking-off scenes NEED to a skip option, I'm so tired of watching the same goddamned scenes over and over again, it makes every single mission tedious, and is why I don't play the SP often.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 21, 2018 14:39:52 GMT
Yep. I completed MEA in less than 4 hours. The game isn't that bad when doing a speedrun.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 21, 2018 15:36:35 GMT
It can be for I have tried to do a quick playthrough for you can skip a lot of things. The problem is at least for me the world design for it is still feels like it drags on for you have to still drive across the map for the missions. It has been about a year since I attempted a quick playthrough so it isn't fresh in my mind I just remember feeling bored trying to accomplish the task. If the warp system was designed differently I probably would think differently. You mean, lettings us skip it like we can in-system? Oh yeah, and the goddamned landing/taking-off scenes NEED to a skip option, I'm so tired of watching the same goddamned scenes over and over again, it makes every single mission tedious, and is why I don't play the SP often. To me the landing cinematic was a load screen so I am not sure if that would happen, but I spaced out and forgot they called the Forward Stations, so have all the Forward Stations unlocked so you can just fast travel to the main quests.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 21, 2018 15:59:11 GMT
You mean, lettings us skip it like we can in-system? Oh yeah, and the goddamned landing/taking-off scenes NEED to a skip option, I'm so tired of watching the same goddamned scenes over and over again, it makes every single mission tedious, and is why I don't play the SP often. To me the landing cinematic was a load screen so I am not sure if that would happen, but I spaced out and forgot they called the Forward Stations, so have all the Forward Stations unlocked so you can just fast travel to the main quests. No matter how many foreward stations you have, you cannot "just fast travel" to locations on planets in other systems, so it becomes a tedious set of launch, travel, land, fast travel loading screen, all of which cannot be skipped. You spend more time in mandatory scenes than actually doing the quests.
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 21, 2018 19:40:12 GMT
Well, it's not like anything's forcing you to take the win options. Just like the SM in that regard -- you can have a perfect mission if you like, but it's more interesting if you don't. I know but the game incentivizes you to “take a side” and stick to it. That’s why 3’s system was better. You could make a decision based on situation and not on always up/always down. Oh, I agree that the system sucked. Just pointing out that giving in to the bad incentives isn't optimal play.
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 21, 2018 19:48:38 GMT
To me the landing cinematic was a load screen so I am not sure if that would happen, but I spaced out and forgot they called the Forward Stations, so have all the Forward Stations unlocked so you can just fast travel to the main quests. No matter how many foreward stations you have, you cannot "just fast travel" to locations on planets in other systems, so it becomes a tedious set of launch, travel, land, fast travel loading screen, all of which cannot be skipped. You spend more time in mandatory scenes than actually doing the quests. If you're spending that much time in load screens, you may want to rethink your mission order.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 21, 2018 20:09:56 GMT
No matter how many foreward stations you have, you cannot "just fast travel" to locations on planets in other systems, so it becomes a tedious set of launch, travel, land, fast travel loading screen, all of which cannot be skipped. You spend more time in mandatory scenes than actually doing the quests. If you're spending that much time in load screens, you may want to rethink your mission order. Or bioware should re-think not letting us skip scenes, or keeping ALL missions COMPLETELY on their planet of origin.
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 21, 2018 21:05:55 GMT
I still don't know if those weren't loadscreens, so it's not certain that skipping them would have been technically possible.
Edit: I did a little testing. Looks like the landing cutscene would have to stay for anyone who isn't using an SSD, since my disk access was over 90% for most of it. Taking off didn't have much load, since there's much less data to load on the space side.
Restricting missions to a single planet strikes me as a pretty silly restriction to impose. Aren't players smart enough to handle this sort of thing?
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Post by river82 on Jan 21, 2018 21:12:11 GMT
I don't really get these topics, TBH. All that was fixed in the ME patches was the technical performance of the game. So if you tried it when it was first released and thought "quality content, but BLEARGGGGGH! What the hell is my Ryder doing? That's not any kind of 'running' I've ever come across. Is she twerking, is she running, I don't even know." Then chances are you'll enjoy it now.
On the other hand if you didn't like the writing, gameplay, voice acting, or exploration well those weren't touched so chances are you still won't like the writing, gameplay, voice acting, or exploration.
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Post by clips7 on Jan 25, 2018 2:21:16 GMT
It's not the animations or bugs. It's a poorly written, boring mess. Not worth the bandwidth. This....the game plays well and some of the visuals are stunning throughout the entire game, it's just the story, the characters and narrative that are lacking. *To OP*....It's not a bad game, just not a good Mass Effect game. I played through it twice just to make sure that maybe i pre-judged it or missed something,...but i ended up having the same mediorce experience as my first play-through.....this is the first ME game that i will never touch again....but at $5.00?....that is an incredible bargain for a game that has high production values and amazing visuals.
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Post by spacev3gan on Jan 25, 2018 8:22:56 GMT
I have played the campaign all the way through once (on top of hundreds of hours invested in Multiplayer) and although I found the campaign to be shallow and lackluster, I was ok with it because that was back in the day when we were still hoping for DLCs to improve it further and to bring some hope for the future of the Mass Effect franchise. Now knowing that this messy thing is a finished product and that it might as well be the end of the Mass Effect franchise, I would say playing it through should be a pretty disappointing experience overall.
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Post by abaris on Jan 25, 2018 20:16:57 GMT
This....the game plays well and some of the visuals are stunning throughout the entire game, it's just the story, the characters and narrative that are lacking. A first playthrough isn't the problem. When everything is new and you don't already know where this or that leads. It's replayability that's lacking. It's open world but it's much more on rails than any previous title. With ME3 I just learned that you can end up killing Kaidan/Ashley in the Udina confrontation. There's still something new to discover. There aren't similar moments to discover in Andromeda or they are extremely well hidden.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jan 26, 2018 23:40:08 GMT
Might as well play it now. I saw in the bargin bin the other day and it has been patched a lot since launch. It might not be the trilogy but if you go in open minded you will be suprised at how fun it can be. In fact I think it is a damn shame that it is already in the bargain bin, in the long run people will begin to realize just how underrated this game was.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 26, 2018 23:43:10 GMT
This....the game plays well and some of the visuals are stunning throughout the entire game, it's just the story, the characters and narrative that are lacking. A first playthrough isn't the problem. When everything is new and you don't already know where this or that leads. It's replayability that's lacking. It's open world but it's much more on rails than any previous title. With ME3 I just learned that you can end up killing Kaidan/Ashley in the Udina confrontation. There's still something new to discover. There aren't similar moments to discover in Andromeda or they are extremely well hidden. I pursued 4 different romances, I played Ryder with different 'dialogue preferences', which led to a few differing story decisions.
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 29, 2018 22:36:21 GMT
Well, ME:A is a bit weak on choices and consequences relative to earlier games in the series. Bio games are always weak at doing this onscreen, but ME:A's offscreen effects are weak too.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2018 23:31:30 GMT
A first playthrough isn't the problem. When everything is new and you don't already know where this or that leads. It's replayability that's lacking. It's open world but it's much more on rails than any previous title. With ME3 I just learned that you can end up killing Kaidan/Ashley in the Udina confrontation. There's still something new to discover. There aren't similar moments to discover in Andromeda or they are extremely well hidden. Checkout this thread for things that folks may not know about in the trilogy.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jan 29, 2018 23:34:48 GMT
Play it, but expect no polished material.
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Post by sil on Jan 30, 2018 11:46:38 GMT
Play it, but expect no polished material. A lot of it is polished, so don't listen to Andrew Lucas on this one.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jan 30, 2018 12:34:17 GMT
hence the flop, obviously.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jan 30, 2018 12:51:40 GMT
so don't listen to Andrew Lucas on this one Isnt that a general rule
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Post by Pounce de León on Jan 30, 2018 16:32:33 GMT
Just look for yourself.
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Post by Arkhne on Jan 30, 2018 19:06:16 GMT
Yeah, I wouldn't call myself a defender of ME:A (I do play it, but haven't finished SP yet), but honestly, if you have it, why WOULDN'T you try it?
That's like saying "I got this chocolate cake for free, but I'm not sure I'll like it, eventhough I like chocolate, and cake, so I'm going to feed it to my dog instead."
And if it turns out that you don't like it? What did you lose? A few hours of your time? Wow, tough call.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2018 19:09:34 GMT
I kind of want to play another run. I definitely did one complete run. Can't remember if I completed a second run or not. I do have an incomplete run. Thing is, I don't have the hard drive space for both it and TW3 and I haven't completed TW3 yet, so...
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Post by kino on Jan 30, 2018 19:10:59 GMT
I would, particularly since you're playing after all the patches have been released.
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