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Post by N7Pathfinder on May 6, 2021 10:08:48 GMT
His tweet with liara and the renegade color implies (again) that red is canon.
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Post by The Elder King on May 6, 2021 10:17:38 GMT
His tweet with liara and the renegade color implies (again) that red is canon. With 'red' you mean Destroy?
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Post by KaiserShep on May 6, 2021 11:44:03 GMT
His tweet with liara and the renegade color implies (again) that red is canon. By ME3, you can technically have your Shepard be more Renegade than Paragon simply through dialogue, while primarily taking actions that are the latter. My Shepard has the red-coded autodialogue yet still did all the “nice” stuff.
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Post by traks on May 6, 2021 12:23:35 GMT
Well, they had said that they aimed to provide closure for Andromeda through the related media, like what books and comics there were. It's clear that the plan was never to make a sequel out of it. I didn't know that. In that case, yes, his tweet would make more sense if he meant that a closure was already given. Although I think it's possible that they shifted stance after the reception and sales of the game. Anyway, I'm not going to rule out any possibility for NME, or form any expectations. They never did. The related media comprises of prequels only and there was never a book planned to pick up Ryder's story. Of course not, because BioWare never has brought out any book or other media featuring a Mass Effect protagonist. If you go to the data mining thread, you'll see that of course a sequel was planned (and then panned because of the bad reception).
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 6, 2021 12:54:56 GMT
I didn't know that. In that case, yes, his tweet would make more sense if he meant that a closure was already given. Although I think it's possible that they shifted stance after the reception and sales of the game. Anyway, I'm not going to rule out any possibility for NME, or form any expectations. They never did. The related media comprises of prequels only and there was never a book planned to pick up Ryder's story. Of course not, because BioWare never has brought out any book or other media featuring a Mass Effect protagonist. If you go to the data mining thread, you'll see that of course a sequel was planned (and then panned because of the bad reception). That's "speculation for everyone" for you. Aren't the answers you come up with better than anything Bioware could do? Didn't that work great for ME3? Why not just repeat that? I suggest Bioware makes games full of questions for each of their subsequent games, but offer no answers whatsoever. That way, no game could ever let you down, when it doesn't get a sequel. Isn't that thoughtful of them?
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Post by N7Pathfinder on May 6, 2021 13:56:06 GMT
His tweet with liara and the renegade color implies (again) that red is canon. With 'red' you mean Destroy? Yes.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 6, 2021 14:04:30 GMT
His tweet with liara and the renegade color implies (again) that red is canon. What do you mean? The tweet where the other guy asks for closure?
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 6, 2021 14:49:23 GMT
His tweet with liara and the renegade color implies (again) that red is canon. What do you mean? The tweet where the other guy asks for closure? The one before that.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 6, 2021 15:09:48 GMT
What do you mean? The tweet where the other guy asks for closure? The one before that. I think we're reading too much into it. Other than some personal preference or some PR approved promotional post, there's nothing more to it. Definitely not some codded message about the future of ME or anything to do with Will Continue.
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 6, 2021 15:12:38 GMT
I think we're reading too much into it. Other than some personal preference or some PR approved promotional post, there's nothing more to it. Definitely not some codded message about the future of ME or anything to do with Will Continue. Meh. I'm not bothered ether way.
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Post by Noxluxe on May 7, 2021 18:56:47 GMT
Gurgh, my youtube recommendations are blowing up with "x things you NEED to know before you play ME: Legendary Edition!" videos, like I haven't been playing these games for over a decade and finished my third or fourth Insanity playthrough two weeks ago.
Astonishing how people survived and enjoyed playing the games for so long in spite of their blind ignorance to x amount of random gameplay tips as presented by some cheerful parasite recording from their bedroom. Must have been a miracle.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2021 19:04:57 GMT
why the fucking games. Why when we are driving home somewhere, and I can totally tell something is wrong, and I ask. "Hey whats wrong?" Why in the flying holiest of holes of fucks is the answer "Nothing." "No seriously whats wrong?" "Nothing, Im fine." Fuckin christ. A lot of people bitches just get off by being overly dramatic. FTFY
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Post by jrpN7 on May 7, 2021 19:54:45 GMT
Gurgh, my youtube recommendations are blowing up with "x things you NEED to know before you play ME: Legendary Edition!" videos, like I haven't been playing these games for over a decade and finished my third or fourth Insanity playthrough two weeks ago. Astonishing how people survived and enjoyed playing the games for so long in spite of their blind ignorance to x amount of random gameplay tips as presented by some cheerful parasite recording from their bedroom. Must have been a miracle. Right? Like, just shut up and play the damn game. Lol - I hope we get to uplift the Raloi in ME4. It would be cool to no longer be the youngest species and to see a new alien race adjust to galactic society in the Mass Effect Milky Way setting. Be curious if they will try to accumulate as much power as humanity did or will just kind of sit by like the Elcor or Volus or maybe even become a hostile like the Batarians.
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Post by Chenowl Blanc on May 7, 2021 20:30:48 GMT
A lot of people bitches just get off by being overly dramatic. FTFY Maybe it's about time to think about why the "bitch" doesn't want to share her feelings with you.
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Post by broodax on May 9, 2021 3:16:08 GMT
i dont really care what they do, mass effect 4 post reaper re-building or andromeda 2 all i want is selectable species. i dont wanna play as a boring human. we have all these cool aliens why cant we play as them outside of multiplayer. i wanna be a krogan smashing stuff with my krogan warhammer.
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Post by Noxluxe on May 9, 2021 8:24:21 GMT
i dont really care what they do, mass effect 4 post reaper re-building or andromeda 2 all i want is selectable species. i dont wanna play as a boring human. we have all these cool aliens why cant we play as them outside of multiplayer. i wanna be a krogan smashing stuff with my krogan warhammer. Because that would be really complicated and resource-intensive to write and voice-act in a single-player narrative-driven campaign? Mass Effect already scaled the roleplaying options down dramatically from the older Bioware model just in order to give us a voiced protagonist in the first place, and the only reason it more or less worked is because the background and motivations of that character are basically pre-determined so they could just focus on varying its expressions instead. DAI had several character races or species with only slightly different histories - compared to species born a galaxy across from each other - and identical voices across males and females, and the Inquisitor's ability to express themself and form a coherent or interesting personality in that game is abysmal even compared to Mass Effect. And then there's Andromeda, where the main character's lines are 90% light jokes and 9% vague observations no matter what you choose dialogue-wise. I can imagine ME4 with various character species, but not with any kind of serious or deep roleplaying at the same time. Like Ryder, I'm pretty sure the player would just end up being an occasionally, inconsequentially piping vehicle from which to experience a very streamlined story that's pretty much going to happen the way it is regardless. Not to say that I wouldn't necessarily love the next ME protagonist being a Turian, or an Asari, or even a Krogan. But realistically and historically, it seems we can only have two out of three of 'MOAR character options' and voiced protagonist and "choices that actually matter". At best. Personally I've always advocated dropping the 'voiced protagonist' part to better enable the other two with written dialogue. Then you could definitely have a Mass Effect RPG where you could pick between alien species and have vocal and interesting main character. But for some reason I've never been able to understand, a lot of players just need to hear their characters talk even at the cost of having any real control over what they say. So that doesn't seem likely.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 9, 2021 12:17:41 GMT
I think it's best to just come to terms with the fact that Mass Effect has always been human-centric, and that's not likely to change.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 9, 2021 12:31:05 GMT
Personally I've always advocated dropping the 'voiced protagonist' part to better enable the other two with written dialogue. Then you could definitely have a Mass Effect RPG where you could pick between alien species and have vocal and interesting main character. But for some reason I've never been able to understand, a lot of players just need to hear their characters talk even at the cost of having any real control over what they say. So that doesn't seem likely. For me, I've always found the clash between the mute protagonist and voiced NPC's just a tad off-putting. Yeah, I know, "imagination!" but it didn't change what I was actually hearing against what I wasn't, which made it feel like these NPC's, who all seemed to have something of a personality, were literally talking to a wall. The way I see it, either go full text-based, or all-voiced. I'd much prefer something consistent over a hybrid. In any case, it's not as if the silent protagonist doesn't come with its own set of trade-offs. Dialogue structure is strongly dictated by the fact that your character can only "speak" in brief, single line sentences, so the flow of dialogue is always the same, stilted back and forth in every situation. Now that BioWare and other developers have spoiled us with a fully voiced roster, it's too late to go back now. Obsidian might be able to commit to this, since they've never done it themselves, but for something like Mass Effect, it's far too late. They'd do more harm than good to drop the protagonist VA now.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2021 12:54:09 GMT
Obsidian might be able to commit to this, since they've never done it themselves Never done it? Don't make me mad.
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Post by smilesja on May 9, 2021 14:54:54 GMT
Obsidian might be able to commit to this, since they've never done it themselves Never done it? Don't make me mad. And people say that the voice of the Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 was bad.......
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Post by ahglock on May 9, 2021 15:47:55 GMT
Never done it? Don't make me mad. And people say that the voice of the Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 was bad....... I never heard that it was bad, just that they shouldn't do a voiced protagonist in the first place. And honestly, even this one I don't think is bad I definitely have a feel for who the character is from that.
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Post by smilesja on May 9, 2021 15:51:57 GMT
And people say that the voice of the Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 was bad....... I never heard that it was bad, just that they shouldn't do a voiced protagonist in the first place. And honestly, even this one I don't think is bad I definitely have a feel for who the character is from that. Well I definitely heard mixed reactions of the voice for the protagonist of Fallout 4 though my gripes were solely on the interface. That was so awkward.
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Post by Iakus on May 9, 2021 16:37:01 GMT
i dont really care what they do, mass effect 4 post reaper re-building or andromeda 2 all i want is selectable species. i dont wanna play as a boring human. we have all these cool aliens why cant we play as them outside of multiplayer. i wanna be a krogan smashing stuff with my krogan warhammer. Because that would be really complicated and resource-intensive to write and voice-act in a single-player narrative-driven campaign? Mass Effect already scaled the roleplaying options down dramatically from the older Bioware model just in order to give us a voiced protagonist in the first place, and the only reason it more or less worked is because the background and motivations of that character are basically pre-determined so they could just focus on varying its expressions instead. DAI had several character races or species with only slightly different histories - compared to species born a galaxy across from each other - and identical voices across males and females, and the Inquisitor's ability to express themself and form a coherent or interesting personality in that game is abysmal even compared to Mass Effect. And then there's Andromeda, where the main character's lines are 90% light jokes and 9% vague observations no matter what you choose dialogue-wise. I can imagine ME4 with various character species, but not with any kind of serious or deep roleplaying at the same time. Like Ryder, I'm pretty sure the player would just end up being an occasionally, inconsequentially piping vehicle from which to experience a very streamlined story that's pretty much going to happen the way it is regardless. Not to say that I wouldn't necessarily love the next ME protagonist being a Turian, or an Asari, or even a Krogan. But realistically and historically, it seems we can only have two out of three of 'MOAR character options' and voiced protagonist and "choices that actually matter". At best. Personally I've always advocated dropping the 'voiced protagonist' part to better enable the other two with written dialogue. Then you could definitely have a Mass Effect RPG where you could pick between alien species and have vocal and interesting main character. But for some reason I've never been able to understand, a lot of players just need to hear their characters talk even at the cost of having any real control over what they say. So that doesn't seem likely. Not to mention that the aliens in MA are essentially just funny-looking humans
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Post by Iakus on May 9, 2021 16:41:45 GMT
Obsidian might be able to commit to this, since they've never done it themselves Never done it? Don't make me mad. Damn that was a good game...
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2021 17:34:42 GMT
And people say that the voice of the Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 was bad....... Don't dis my boi, Victor Delacroix! I never heard that it was bad, just that they shouldn't do a voiced protagonist in the first place. And honestly, even this one I don't think is bad I definitely have a feel for who the character is from that. Mike was great. There was such variety to his dialogue options. His first meeting with Jack was so fun. I-I mean Scarlet Lake. Mike: " Those your legs?" Scarlet, annoyed, sighs: " Other page." Still cracks me up, 10 years later.
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