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Post by 14thcommander on Jun 2, 2021 15:45:36 GMT
What has surprised me the most sometimes when reading people's comments about a new ME is how many basically want all the big elements back from the OT - Shepard, the companions, Reapers, you name it. Like, I feel like I want to move on at this point. I feel like Shepard had their story come to a conclusion, and the Reapers coming back again after all that in ME3 would probably make me roll my eyes at the lack of creativity. And imagine Shepard being resurrected one more time, potentially hundreds of years into the future... I'd be like, give them a break and let them have some well deserved rest, that resurrection shtick felt pretty contrived already in ME2 and does not need a repeat. At the very most I'd accept them making a clone, but given the what happened in the Citadel... ugh. I want a new story with mostly new characters, not that I wouldn't mind the occasional cameo if they make sense. I'd also be up for a more DA2-ish type of story - lesser scope but more personal. The lore is so advanced at this point I'm sure we could have many such interesting stories without our whole existence being on the line. Yep I agree, I think it would undermine the entire trilogy if they brought the reapers back. And with the OT, we were locked in as a human because of the story. If they move away from that, imagine if we could actually select a different species for our character? I would love to play as an Asari or Turian.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 2, 2021 16:35:12 GMT
What has surprised me the most sometimes when reading people's comments about a new ME is how many basically want all the big elements back from the OT - Shepard, the companions, Reapers, you name it. Like, I feel like I want to move on at this point. I feel like Shepard had their story come to a conclusion, and the Reapers coming back again after all that in ME3 would probably make me roll my eyes at the lack of creativity. And imagine Shepard being resurrected one more time, potentially hundreds of years into the future... I'd be like, give them a break and let them have some well deserved rest, that resurrection shtick felt pretty contrived already in ME2 and does not need a repeat. At the very most I'd accept them making a clone, but given the what happened in the Citadel... ugh. I want a new story with mostly new characters, not that I wouldn't mind the occasional cameo if they make sense. I'd also be up for a more DA2-ish type of story - lesser scope but more personal. The lore is so advanced at this point I'm sure we could have many such interesting stories without our whole existence being on the line. Yep I agree, I think it would undermine the entire trilogy if they brought the reapers back. And with the OT, we were locked in as a human because of the story. If they move away from that, imagine if we could actually select a different species for our character? I would love to play as an Asari or Turian. I love Ryder, but I still wish we could have done this in Andromeda. It was the perfect opportunity since all the Milky Way races were in the same boat, figuratively and literally. Maybe in future Andromeda games once Ryder's story is done.
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Post by 14thcommander on Jun 2, 2021 16:51:57 GMT
Yep I agree, I think it would undermine the entire trilogy if they brought the reapers back. And with the OT, we were locked in as a human because of the story. If they move away from that, imagine if we could actually select a different species for our character? I would love to play as an Asari or Turian. I love Ryder, but I still wish we could have done this in Andromeda. It was the perfect opportunity since all the Milky Way races were in the same boat, figuratively and literally. Maybe in future Andromeda games once Ryder's story is done. 100% a missed opportunity and would have made the game feel way more unique.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 2, 2021 17:14:27 GMT
Yesterday, I got the Liara/Dad interactions and it made me realize that she needs to headbutt something in ME Next. Otherwise all that teasing will have been a waste. I would love to play as an Asari or Turian. I would like the ability to play as something else than human, but I don't see it happening. BioWare almost remove the feature from the Dragon Age series...
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 2, 2021 17:23:07 GMT
I really would love having that opportunity, but I suspect it would be hard as the racial differences are much greater in ME than in DA. They'd probably only let you choose between human, Asari, and possibly Quarian (the three with the most similar facial- and body types).I'd def play a Quarian, they're fascinating! But if a human is needed for a more cohesive story then I'm very much okay with the limitation.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 2, 2021 17:27:42 GMT
And with the OT, we were locked in as a human because of the story. If they move away from that, imagine if we could actually select a different species for our character? I would love to play as an Asari or Turian. I would be ok with that if I could play as a reaper. . If not, I would like to play as a Vorcha.
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Post by 14thcommander on Jun 2, 2021 18:07:51 GMT
And with the OT, we were locked in as a human because of the story. If they move away from that, imagine if we could actually select a different species for our character? I would love to play as an Asari or Turian. I would be ok with that if I could play as a reaper. . If not, I would like to play as a Vorcha. I pity the VA who would have to voice the Vorcha for an entire game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 2, 2021 18:09:40 GMT
I would be ok with that if I could play as a reaper. . If not, I would like to play as a Vorcha. I pity the VA who would have to voice the Vorcha for an entire game. I can see it now: Mark Meer announces he's returning to Mass Effect in a big role Many fans assume he means Shepard Turns out he is a Vorcha squadmate
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Post by t4rget on Jun 2, 2021 20:29:23 GMT
I really would love having that opportunity, but I suspect it would be hard as the racial differences are much greater in ME than in DA. They'd probably only let you choose between human, Asari, and possibly Quarian (the three with the most similar facial- and body types).I'd def play a Quarian, they're fascinating! But if a human is needed for a more cohesive story then I'm very much okay with the limitation. It costs. More VA, more facial animations. Surely some very specific missions. For... the same story. I'm pretty much sure they'll head to witcher 3 narration style with a human main protagonist and they will replace Ciry with Liara. Honestly more than having 20 races to play, I would prefer a story where choices actively alter the main story.
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Post by Phantom on Jun 2, 2021 21:23:48 GMT
And with the OT, we were locked in as a human because of the story. If they move away from that, imagine if we could actually select a different species for our character? I would love to play as an Asari or Turian. I would be ok with that if I could play as a reaper. . If not, I would like to play as a Vorcha. One of my ideas is having a squad of Vorcha. Yes it is a comedy for all 3 of them are comic relief characters that love burn all things. One of the reasons I want Cerberus as a faction doubly so if it is a Cerberus Agent(funny if he is a Cerberus Phantom) as a Player Character to troll the Cerberus Haters
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Post by Phantom on Jun 2, 2021 21:25:59 GMT
I pity the VA who would have to voice the Vorcha for an entire game. I can see it now: Mark Meer announces he's returning to Mass Effect in a big role Many fans assume he means Shepard Turns out he is a Vorcha squadmate Yes i would find it funny if they actually did that. And Vorcha squadmate can work with Shepard, Ryder twins, my Cerberus Phantom Commander idea or any possible new Player Character.
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Post by mattjamho on Jun 3, 2021 0:12:23 GMT
If we’re not playing Ryder in ME5 then I want race options for the pc. Even if it was just a few choices to pick from.
Id love for human, asari, Turian, and Quarian to be options. Drell would be neat as well. Don’t see why we have to stick to just the council races.
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Post by eternalambiguity on Jun 3, 2021 1:51:41 GMT
But overall, I'm not going to form any expectations in regards of what organizations and plots would turn up in NME. I think we'd all be better off if we did this.
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Post by Guardian on Jun 3, 2021 2:20:49 GMT
I think this tells a lot about Ark 6, the Benefactor and Cora Harper. I expect this to be Cerberus reinforcements, all fully weaponized and attack ready. Whether the Initiative managed to establish a peaceful arrangement with whatever civilizations they hoped to find in Andromeda, or whether they got BTFO'd by the aliens there, the Cerberus Ark could come in, guns blazing and establish 'uman supremacy against the unarmed, unprepared Initiative, in the event of a peaceful coexistence, or show up as saviours, in the event of not friendly aliens. Also, the Relay would allow for more Cerberus reinforcements coming in from the Milky Way. Provided that Ark 6 caries a 2 way, or even 1 way, relay along with it. The Kett where never that great, as villains, to stand on their own. It wouldn't make sense to have a bigger threat to the Kett, to just pop up in the cluster, that is indigenous to Andromeda, but just fucked off for the entirety of the game, only to show up in the sequel, only to then have an even bigger threat show up in the next game, when that doesn't live up to expectations, etc. etc., while also adding an extra ark per game and just getting Liara more involved again. Man, the Cerberus direction looks like the only interesting way out for Andromeda, doesn't it? Not really....I don't want anything doing with Cerberus anymore, unless they're going to just be target practice like they should be.
But seriously - no; the terrorist group known as Cerberus is done. I would rather have Synthesis be the default ending to ME 3 or a team full of Liams and Peebees than Cerberus return at all in any way, shape, or form.
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Post by Phantom on Jun 3, 2021 2:22:16 GMT
I think this tells a lot about Ark 6, the Benefactor and Cora Harper. I expect this to be Cerberus reinforcements, all fully weaponized and attack ready. Whether the Initiative managed to establish a peaceful arrangement with whatever civilizations they hoped to find in Andromeda, or whether they got BTFO'd by the aliens there, the Cerberus Ark could come in, guns blazing and establish 'uman supremacy against the unarmed, unprepared Initiative, in the event of a peaceful coexistence, or show up as saviours, in the event of not friendly aliens. Also, the Relay would allow for more Cerberus reinforcements coming in from the Milky Way. Provided that Ark 6 caries a 2 way, or even 1 way, relay along with it. The Kett where never that great, as villains, to stand on their own. It wouldn't make sense to have a bigger threat to the Kett, to just pop up in the cluster, that is indigenous to Andromeda, but just fucked off for the entirety of the game, only to show up in the sequel, only to then have an even bigger threat show up in the next game, when that doesn't live up to expectations, etc. etc., while also adding an extra ark per game and just getting Liara more involved again. Man, the Cerberus direction looks like the only interesting way out for Andromeda, doesn't it? Not really....I don't want anything doing with Cerberus anymore, unless they're going to just be target practice like they should be.
But seriously - no; the terrorist group known as Cerberus is done. I would rather have Synthesis be the default ending to ME 3 or a team full of Liams and Peebees than Cerberus return at all in any way, shape, or form.
Well Mac Walter is a fan of Cerberus. Expect them to return.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 3, 2021 3:34:30 GMT
Not really....I don't want anything doing with Cerberus anymore, unless they're going to just be target practice like they should be.
But seriously - no; the terrorist group known as Cerberus is done. I would rather have Synthesis be the default ending to ME 3 or a team full of Liams and Peebees than Cerberus return at all in any way, shape, or form.
Well Mac Walter is a fan of Cerberus. Expect them to return. More then a fan, he’s the one responsible for what Cerberus became in ME2-ME3. But Mac is also not in charge of the project. Mike Gamble is.
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Post by Phantom on Jun 3, 2021 3:47:31 GMT
Well Mac Walter is a fan of Cerberus. Expect them to return. More then a fan, he’s the one responsible for what Cerberus became in ME2-ME3. But Mac is also not in charge of the project. Mike Gamble is. yeah i know. Also i didn't like how they became stupidly large within ME3.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jun 3, 2021 4:01:48 GMT
Well Mac Walter is a fan of Cerberus. Expect them to return. More then a fan, he’s the one responsible for what Cerberus became in ME2-ME3. But Mac is also not in charge of the project. Mike Gamble is. I hope you didn't just Jinx it now.... Because that'd be bad.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jun 3, 2021 4:05:15 GMT
More then a fan, he’s the one responsible for what Cerberus became in ME2-ME3. But Mac is also not in charge of the project. Mike Gamble is. yeah i know. Also i didn't like how they became stupidly large within ME3. Must've been a large discount on Villainsareus.com before the events of ME3. 😆
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 3, 2021 4:18:01 GMT
More then a fan, he’s the one responsible for what Cerberus became in ME2-ME3. But Mac is also not in charge of the project. Mike Gamble is. I hope you didn't just Jinx it now.... Because that'd be bad. Well, I just stated that Mac isn’t in charge, so him being a fan or responsible for Cerberus’ bigger relevance in ME2-ME3 isn’t necessarily going to affect NME, but that goes beyond Cerberus. I also said in a previous post that I prefer to not form any kind to expectations plot wise for NME, so I’m not going to completely discount any possibilities. It’d be entertaining to watch the reaction on forums and social media if the only elements returning from the OT in NME are Liara and Cerberus, though.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jun 3, 2021 4:21:12 GMT
I hope you didn't just Jinx it now.... Because that'd be bad. Well, I just stated that Mac isn’t in charge, so him being a fan or responsible for Cerberus’ bigger relevance in ME2-ME3 isn’t necessarily going to affect NME, but that goes beyond Cerberus. I also said in a previous post that I prefer to not form any kind to expectations plot wise for NME, so I’m not going to completely discount any possibilities. It’d be entertaining to watch the reaction on forums and social media if the only elements returning from the OT in NME are Liara and Cerberus, though. There'd be flames aplenty if Mac's pet makes a return. ... I'll bring the popcorn. 😉
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Post by themikefest on Jun 3, 2021 5:38:08 GMT
Not really....I don't want anything doing with Cerberus anymore, unless they're going to just be target practice like they should be. But seriously - no; the terrorist group known as Cerberus is done. I would rather have Synthesis be the default ending to ME 3 or a team full of Liams and Peebees than Cerberus return at all in any way, shape, or form.
Well Mac Walter is a fan of Cerberus. Expect them to return. I do expect them to return. In a big way. They will save the Initiative from the kett. The council will eventually decide to be partners with them. I expect jacob Taylor to be the new human councilor who will side with Cerberus on everything. The SR2 will be repainted with Cerberus colors. The Alliance will be phased out to be part of Cerberus. Cora Harper will be TIW in Andromeda. Over time, Cerberus will have controll of the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies. All thanks to the main man, TIM.
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Post by t4rget on Jun 3, 2021 6:01:59 GMT
I do expect them to return in two ways.
1- the cell in the andromeda initiative
2- in the milky way, Cerberus evolved into a xenophobic empire.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 3, 2021 7:39:34 GMT
I hope that the expectations some of you have isn’t hope of that happening, because you could very well end up disappointed if it turns out they’re not in…or if they’d still be in in an antagonistic role.
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