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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2018 11:46:53 GMT
True, but we're supposed to be getting books to tie that stuff up, and they're not going to put book events in-game. Whatever happens, I would be really astonished if BioWare went with a direct MEA sequel. So if a MEA2 is made that takes place 10, 20 years later, I'm sure quarians would be in the game. Would I have to get the book to know the details about them getting to Andromeda and what the message at the end of MEA meant?
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Post by Hoge on Jan 29, 2018 15:50:49 GMT
What I was kind of hoping for in a new ME before Andromeda was announced:
Groups of Reaper War survivors stranded in a vast, unexplored region of the Milky Way; They would have traveled through a previously unexplored Relay network while evading the Reapers. After the Relays were destroyed they had no way of realistically travelling back to civilized space. They'd be forced to be frontiersmen in a new part of the galaxy, needing to explore and build a new home- similar to what the Andromeda Initiative was tasked with.
Of course they probably won't return to the MW and that plotline would be too similar to MEA, except being in the MW rather than Andromeda.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2018 16:52:20 GMT
FluffyCannibal : I get what you're saying but MEA has way too much unfinished, stuff that has immediate relevancy. To leap forward 20 years and ignore it won't do the game any favors. True, but we're supposed to be getting books to tie that stuff up, and they're not going to put book events in-game. Whatever happens, I would be really astonished if BioWare went with a direct MEA sequel. Again, a thing being done that is going to do Mass Effect no favors. Books are meant to sort of add some depth to the universe not do what should have happened in the game. If that's what is going to happen, I'd avoid MEA2 completely.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2018 16:54:16 GMT
FluffyCannibal : I get what you're saying but MEA has way too much unfinished, stuff that has immediate relevancy. To leap forward 20 years and ignore it won't do the game any favors. Which stuff exactly? Mom discovered in cryo, Mysterious Benefactor...hell, even the quarian message ought to be handled in a game. The book stuff just doesn't cut it.
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Post by Ahriman on Jan 29, 2018 17:10:42 GMT
Mom discovered in cryo, Mysterious Benefactor...hell, even the quarian message ought to be handled in a game. The book stuff just doesn't cut it. First one is practically resolved, it's just a matter of time before SAM finishes the job. Second may drag for years without any problems. As for the third - "ought" is such a strong word for MEA. Compared to Nexus uprising it's a minor incident, yet it's not in the game either.
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Post by bshep on Jan 29, 2018 18:06:22 GMT
True, but we're supposed to be getting books to tie that stuff up, and they're not going to put book events in-game. Whatever happens, I would be really astonished if BioWare went with a direct MEA sequel. So if a MEA2 is made that takes place 10, 20 years later, I'm sure quarians would be in the game. Would I have to get the book to know the details about them getting to Andromeda and what the message at the end of MEA meant? I am inclined to like the idea of the next game taking place quite some time in the future to give time for all colonization efforts to take place. The book synopsis talks about some highly contagious disease being released on the ship. If BW follows the previous games there would most likely be some ingame characters or codex entries talking about the contents of the books.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2018 19:11:45 GMT
I am inclined to like the idea of the next game taking place quite some time in the future to give time for all colonization efforts to take place. I rather have the game take place shortly after the events of MEA. I like to know what the kett will do. Will they attack the Initiative? Would they wait for reinforcements to attack the Initiative? Or will they decide its a lost cause and leave the cluster? Currently they have the advantage over the Initiative. Maybe.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2018 19:34:13 GMT
Mom discovered in cryo, Mysterious Benefactor...hell, even the quarian message ought to be handled in a game. The book stuff just doesn't cut it. First one is practically resolved, it's just a matter of time before SAM finishes the job. Second may drag for years without any problems. As for the third - "ought" is such a strong word for MEA. Compared to Nexus uprising it's a minor incident, yet it's not in the game either. True on Mom, but then we don't see it happen. It's sort of pointless to have even been a thing if we're resolving it in a novel. Second, it could, but it's no less relevant. Is Ryder supposed to just forget about it for 20 years or is s/he actively investigating? Is anyone? Nexus Uprising isn't required reading. It sets the stage for the game, fleshes things out, but all we need to know at the beginning of MEA is that something bad happened and Tann, inept at leading people, was left in charge. Details largely don't matter and we're told everything we need to know. Now, quarians in peril being resolved outside of the game is outright wrong. You know as well as I do that there's no way that was ever the intention. It would have made more sense to not have it mentioned in the game and then give us a book with some interesting things going on elsewhere in the Helius Cluster. That's more in line with every other Mass Effect book, movie and comic that was unnecessary to read or view. This would be the first Mass Effect novel to require you to read to understand some in-game plot.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 29, 2018 20:21:41 GMT
True on Mom, but then we don't see it happen. It's sort of pointless to have even been a thing if we're resolving it in a novel. The one thing I'm curious about is what explanation will be given for her so-called death. Both Scott and Sara are surprised that mom is on the ship alive believing she was dead. Did dad setup a fake funeral? Was there an urn filled with dirt letting everyone believe its mom's ashes? Is there a tombstone back on Earth with her name on it with an empty casket buried?
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 29, 2018 20:57:03 GMT
True, but we're supposed to be getting books to tie that stuff up, and they're not going to put book events in-game. Whatever happens, I would be really astonished if BioWare went with a direct MEA sequel. So if a MEA2 is made that takes place 10, 20 years later, I'm sure quarians would be in the game. Would I have to get the book to know the details about them getting to Andromeda and what the message at the end of MEA meant? It'll be like DAI. Sure, you know more if you've played that DA2 DLC, but everything you need to know is in the game. (Technically, playing the DLC gives you knowledge your PC doesn't have, so you're better off not playing it.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 23:11:33 GMT
Mysterious Benefactor Could be The Illusive Man or someone from Cerberus !
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Post by bshep on Jan 30, 2018 0:08:18 GMT
Mysterious Benefactor Could be The Illusive Man or someone from Cerberus ! Really doubt they would go down that route, especially with TIM preoccupied with the Reaper threat and finding a way to thwart it. I hope they answer it in the next game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 4:48:22 GMT
Mysterious Benefactor Could be The Illusive Man or someone from Cerberus ! Really doubt they would go down that route, especially with TIM preoccupied with the Reaper threat and finding a way to thwart it. I hope they answer it in the next game. Maybe the illusive man clone himself ?
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Post by Ahriman on Jan 30, 2018 6:22:04 GMT
First one is practically resolved, it's just a matter of time before SAM finishes the job. Second may drag for years without any problems. As for the third - "ought" is such a strong word for MEA. Compared to Nexus uprising it's a minor incident, yet it's not in the game either. True on Mom, but then we don't see it happen. It's sort of pointless to have even been a thing if we're resolving it in a novel. Second, it could, but it's no less relevant. Is Ryder supposed to just forget about it for 20 years or is s/he actively investigating? Is anyone? Nexus Uprising isn't required reading. It sets the stage for the game, fleshes things out, but all we need to know at the beginning of MEA is that something bad happened and Tann, inept at leading people, was left in charge. Details largely don't matter and we're told everything we need to know. Now, quarians in peril being resolved outside of the game is outright wrong. You know as well as I do that there's no way that was ever the intention. It would have made more sense to not have it mentioned in the game and then give us a book with some interesting things going on elsewhere in the Helius Cluster. That's more in line with every other Mass Effect book, movie and comic that was unnecessary to read or view. This would be the first Mass Effect novel to require you to read to understand some in-game plot. I meant, nobody is going to resolve it in the novel. It's Ryder's personal stuff. Without further leads Benefactor can successfully evade all suspicions, until they are forced to act again. I really don't see how it's that much different from other major non-game events. As you needed to open codex to understand who are all these blue chicks and angry toads, you'll need to open one to see how fancy dressed astronauts got there. As for how it was planned - should have planned the main game better, so we wouldn't end up like this.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 30, 2018 6:58:42 GMT
As for how it was planned - should have planned the main game better, so we wouldn't end up like this. Obviously. I'm working with the "hope" that BioWare will at some point spend 5 years on ME5. If that's the case, there's no reason not to directly continue the game. If it's going to be bullshit because they spend 3/5 of the time screwing around again, it could feature Shepard in the MW and still suck. So either we're speculating that we're going to get something good or we're assuming the opposite. If that's the case, there's no point caring about it.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 30, 2018 16:22:04 GMT
I do not really expect to ever get an ME 5....but Bowie? Iconic musician born in the 1940's, like Dylan and Joplin. Could have had Lennon, Jagger, Marley and many others... ' Bowie' seemed to fit Mass Effect best 
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 30, 2018 16:34:44 GMT
Really doubt they would go down that route, especially with TIM preoccupied with the Reaper threat and finding a way to thwart it. I hope they answer it in the next game. Maybe the illusive man clone himself ? Why are you asking us? Seems like you would have the scoop.... Damned Fake News  I want the story of the kid listening to Gramps talk about the Shepard. That kid grows up, and has to deal with some shit, and tries to go Shepard Commander on it. He fails miserably, gets teabagged by a 3-week unwashed quad, and then sodomized by Asari futa. These are QTE gameplay moments, but you cannot win. Finally, a holographic boy gives you an atomic wedgie and hangs you from the tailfin of a Turian fighter. It lauches, and as you are spaced, your body spins around so you can finally see the name on your armor. It says Verner. Mission Failed.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 30, 2018 16:56:02 GMT
If they do a MEA2, I don't think they need to do a 10-20 year timeskip. Just have it be a few years, like say 5. That still gives the Initiative plenty of time to set up and the Vaults plenty of time to work to see big advancements while still being able to play as Ryder and Co. to finish up their story.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 30, 2018 17:02:22 GMT
Could have had Lennon, Jagger, Marley and many others... ' Bowie' seemed to fit Mass Effect best  And have Osbourne, Roth, Hetfield, Elliot, Lee, Plant, Dickinson, Ford, Wilson, Johnson
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 30, 2018 17:03:31 GMT
Could have had Lennon, Jagger, Marley and many others... ' Bowie' seemed to fit Mass Effect best  And have Osbourne, Roth, Hetfield, Elliot, Lee, Plant, Dickinson, Ford, Wilson, Johnson Indeed, the list is long...
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Post by themikefest on Jan 30, 2018 17:07:52 GMT
Indeed, the list is long... I know, but the names I added, plus a few I missed, would add some kick/punch to ME.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Jan 31, 2018 2:51:38 GMT
I want the next ME to have sharks with frickin' Lazers! 
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 31, 2018 5:30:35 GMT
I want the next ME to have sharks with frickin' Lazers!  Sadly impossible because early 21st Century climate change deniers caused all sharks to go extinct. Incidentally, the destruction of the cuttlefish especially pissed off the Reapers which is the real reason why it became Priority #1 over the races who had been around much longer.
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Post by nxp5 on Jan 31, 2018 6:06:37 GMT
Right now it's all about survival for Bioware and Anthem is their only iron left in the fire. EA's Shareholders (game must be out by the End of March 2019 for business reasons) and demand list (Online, Multiplayer, Games as a Service bla bla bla) are a text book example of not learning from past mistakes. It's all too familiar unfortunately, thus I prepare for the worst (End of Bioware and ME).
I do hope for the best though, as I'd love to see a new Mass Effect game with focus on SP RPG story, lore, characters and expansions (like ME2 + their DLCs) and for those that want/need it, ME3 style Multiplayer.
Gameplay: ME3 + MEA vertical add on (Jumpjets).
Story (if it's): MEA2: at least a couple of decades or centuries in the future, new cast and characters, much more alien diversity, less fetch quests and boring open world, plenty of answers (Benefactor, Jardan, Ark etc.) + new stories.
MET/Shepard: Unless they alter the ME3 endings, along the lines of Indoctrination Theory, leave the Shepard Story be.
Milky Way: Set, during the MET or after the First Contact War, but in different parts of the Galaxy than we know, possibly with a smaller overall story instead of the fate of the universe (ragtag team of thieves vs crime syndicates, treasure hunt of some sorts, Detective/Police on Space Station/Hub World).
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 31, 2018 6:44:44 GMT
Could have had Lennon, Jagger, Marley and many others... ' Bowie' seemed to fit Mass Effect best  And have Osbourne, Roth, Hetfield, Elliot, Lee, Plant, Dickinson, Ford, Wilson, Johnson Osbourne or Draiman. All the other names are null and void. To say otherwise is a joke.
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