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Post by Hrulj on Jan 31, 2018 13:25:55 GMT
I hope they go back to Milky way right after the ending and canonize destroy while keeping Shepard and the crew. The state of the forum and reception of the game said as much. Most people left this place and only ones remaining are Andromeda fans. The game itself got shat on massively and brought Bioware to the point that they now have to worry for the existance of the company and base it on the next game. If Anthem tanks there might not be Bioware.
Give the people what they want, focus on the story and characters, get rid of "open world", give each planet a story, quest or something unique. Stop with the SJW agenda and especially stop with the wannabe upbeat positive characters who are just out of place on a quest to save the galaxy. Stop with the idiotic deep voiced villain with the "you'd never comprehend my plans" attitude. At this point it's beyond stupid. It worked for Sovereign, it didn't work for Harbinger or MEA idiot because they kept the attitude while obsessing over player character. Also get rid of the freaking reloads and go back to old system.
Ahhh this felt good. In short, make a game not a political statement and focus on story not graphics or size. Cheers. And if that doesn't happen then enjoy the closure of the company.
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Post by Arcian on Feb 1, 2018 14:56:24 GMT
No thank you. Milky Way or bust.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 1, 2018 15:11:20 GMT
I'd prefer MEA2 set 3-5 years down the road so the settlements are more established and some of the characters have matured just a bit (I'm looking at you, Liam  ). There are a few loose ends I'd like to tie off, plus I really want Fryda and Tom back. Yeah I'd like to see the loose ends tied up in the next game as well instead of just relying on the books because not all the players will read them and will still want answers.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Feb 1, 2018 17:12:13 GMT
No thank you. Milky Way or bust. Unless you have a legit plan for handling all possible ME3 endings without canonization, bust.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 1, 2018 18:20:51 GMT
I dunno. I agree that ME fans are whiny crybabies, but I'm not certain that they wouldn't get over canonizing one ending if that one's the most popular.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 1, 2018 18:56:08 GMT
I dunno. I agree that ME fans are whiny crybabies, but I'm not certain that they wouldn't get over canonizing one ending if that one's the most popular. I always chose the "Destroy" ending so I may be biased but, to me, the "Extended Cut" implied things moved on and eventually got back to normal with "Destroy" while with "Control" Shep was a Reaper and with "Synthesis", everything was green and wired. "Destroy" felt the most complete and would be the logical starting point, maybe a hundred or so years down the road, for a new game set in the Milky Way.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 1, 2018 19:38:36 GMT
I dunno. I agree that ME fans are whiny crybabies, but I'm not certain that they wouldn't get over canonizing one ending if that one's the most popular. I always chose the "Destroy" ending so I may be biased but, to me, the "Extended Cut" implied things moved on and eventually got back to normal with "Destroy" while with "Control" Shep was a Reaper and with "Synthesis", everything was green and wired. "Destroy" felt the most complete and would be the logical starting point, maybe a hundred or so years down the road, for a new game set in the Milky Way. 100% agreed! Of course, new synthetics would always be looming but if in the far flung future where grandpa is telling a story to his grandson we still haven't made the mistake of creating new AI...well, we must be doing something right. Regardless of their motivations, the way the Reapers chose to "fix" the problem was outright wrong. They could have easily stood guard and made sure that neither organics nor synthetics abused their power over the others. Instead, they chose genocide on a scale we can't even really comprehend. So...Destroy because they can't be trusted to make decent decisions, and that includes the Intelligence/Catalyst and its own preferred solution. Not Control because we still have Reapers and I have to assume that any indoctrinated people remain so and that Reaper tech still continues to indoctrinate, regardless of intent.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Feb 1, 2018 20:48:51 GMT
It’s not just red/blue/green that’s a problem. In ME3, people decided the fate of entire species. You’d have to canonize the Krogan plotline, the Quarian/Geth plotline, the Rachni situation, and the political fallout of Salarians participating or not.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 1, 2018 20:56:25 GMT
I always chose the "Destroy" ending so I may be biased but, to me, the "Extended Cut" implied things moved on and eventually got back to normal with "Destroy" while with "Control" Shep was a Reaper and with "Synthesis", everything was green and wired. "Destroy" felt the most complete and would be the logical starting point, maybe a hundred or so years down the road, for a new game set in the Milky Way. Thoughout the game Shepard and others, mention destroying the reapers. Its only TIM who wants to control them, and from what Vendetta said, a splinter group wanted to control the reapers, not destroy them. Déjà vu. The green, what a joke, comes out of nowhere is the one that is best suited for the thing because its still around to keep control of its toys. Destroy fits best to have a sequel to ME3.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 2:22:33 GMT
The green, what a joke, comes out of nowhere is the one that is best suited for the thing because its still around to keep control of its toys. No it doesn't come out of nowhere.
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Post by xassantex on Feb 2, 2018 3:10:40 GMT
i agree Destroy should be the ending to have a sequel. i know some people may have chosen the others , or as i did tried them all just to see how they feel. But after hearing that brat AI it's best to go Renegade and tell it " how about goodbye" . Although something tells me that damaged as it might be, the Citadel is still there and who knows , maybe the AI in its core is still active. --- I wouldn't mind a MEA-2 if they bring new solid characters and leave PB et al as cameos. Searching for the Jardaans, and an even bigger enemy than the Kett : the ones who released the scourge. If i recall there's a short convo amongst the Kett bosses mentioning an enemy they are afraid of. The Benefactor story would make a good DLC , as well as the arrival of the Quarians. ( from where good solid new characters could arise ). But here's the thing, who's to say i'll even be interested in -or have time for -video games by the time it comes out. 
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Post by themikefest on Feb 2, 2018 3:15:45 GMT
Try telling that to new players who never played ME1. Remember? ME3 is the best place to start playing a trilogy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 3:26:58 GMT
Try telling that to new players who never played ME1. Remember? ME3 is the best place to start playing a trilogy. I was referring to you, not new players, when you claimed it comes out of nowhere.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 2, 2018 6:17:31 GMT
The green, what a joke, comes out of nowhere is the one that is best suited for the thing because its still around to keep control of its toys. No it doesn't come out of nowhere. Yes, but that idea was being spouted by a fully indoctrinated being. A being who was being controlled by a race of synthetics who were trying to utterly annihilate organics. Not anyone's judgment I'd be willing to trust.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 2, 2018 6:37:39 GMT
Yes, but that idea was being spouted by a fully indoctrinated being. A being who was being controlled by a race of synthetics who were trying to utterly annihilate organics. Not anyone's judgment I'd be willing to trust. I have been wondering if that green wave thing was nothing more than a brainwashing green ray of light.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 7:13:44 GMT
Yes, but that idea was being spouted by a fully indoctrinated being. A being who was being controlled by a race of synthetics who were trying to utterly annihilate organics. Not anyone's judgment I'd be willing to trust. Saren wasn't the only one preaching synthesis though. Harbinger says it in the words "we will bring your species into harmony with our own". Harbinger isn't indoctrinated. It indoctrinates organics. Taking all organic life in the galaxy and merging it into Reapers to become the pinnacle of evolution has been hinted at many times. We (Reapers) are your genetic destiny, remember? That's essentially what synthesis is. FYI--Reapers are a hybrid of organic and synthetic DNA. They are not a synthetic race like the Geth.
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Post by Ahriman on Feb 2, 2018 7:54:56 GMT
It’s not just red/blue/green that’s a problem. In ME3, people decided the fate of entire species. You’d have to canonize the Krogan plotline, the Quarian/Geth plotline, the Rachni situation, and the political fallout of Salarians participating or not. These are not that hard to canonize. Krogans survive, quarians too, rachni depend if any of writers would like insects, salarian participation is barely worth mention later. The question is "Why?". Shepard's story is over. Garrus won't be your best pal again and Liara won't stalk you anymore. Most of the talk I see is just some aggressive nostalgia. "It sucks because it's not *real* Mass Effect", no it sucks because it was made in less than two years. If they made direct sequel this way, it would be a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 8:44:58 GMT
Mass Effect 5 will never happen if (and when) Anthem bombs.
as far as Shepards story is over? My shepard survived the encounter with the Reapers and blew them to hell. His story is not over yet.
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Post by Ahriman on Feb 2, 2018 9:10:48 GMT
His story is not over yet. Let it goooo. Give it a break. All things end. There are billions of other people in the galaxy, let them do something too.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Feb 2, 2018 14:35:29 GMT
It’s not just red/blue/green that’s a problem. In ME3, people decided the fate of entire species. You’d have to canonize the Krogan plotline, the Quarian/Geth plotline, the Rachni situation, and the political fallout of Salarians participating or not. These are not that hard to canonize. Krogans survive, quarians too, rachni depend if any of writers would like insects, salarian participation is barely worth mention later. The question is "Why?". Shepard's story is over. Garrus won't be your best pal again and Liara won't stalk you anymore. Most of the talk I see is just some aggressive nostalgia. "It sucks because it's not *real* Mass Effect", no it sucks because it was made in less than two years. If they made direct sequel this way, it would be a disaster. It’s not that they CAN’T do it. It’s that they SHOULDN’T do it. Plenty of people have opposing choices and there’s just too much universe changing variance to account for to have a proper Milky Way sequel. If Bioware starts canonizing choices, it’s no longer Mass Effect. It’s Uncharted: Space Edition.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 2, 2018 17:24:03 GMT
That only works if you already believe that a proper sequel has to account for all the choices -- you're assuming what you're trying to prove.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 2, 2018 17:45:12 GMT
Yes, but that idea was being spouted by a fully indoctrinated being. A being who was being controlled by a race of synthetics who were trying to utterly annihilate organics. Not anyone's judgment I'd be willing to trust. Saren wasn't the only one preaching synthesis though. Harbinger says it in the words "we will bring your species into harmony with our own". Harbinger isn't indoctrinated. It indoctrinates organics. Taking all organic life in the galaxy and merging it into Reapers to become the pinnacle of evolution has been hinted at many times. We (Reapers) are your genetic destiny, remember? That's essentially what synthesis is. FYI--Reapers are a hybrid of organic and synthetic DNA. They are not a synthetic race like the Geth. So we've got a Reaper (the original Reaper, at that) and an indoctrinated guy spouting Synthesis. In both cases, they're going on a bloody rampage against organics. Why would you possibly ever trust a word out of their mouths? If Reapers really had our best interests at heart, why weren't they approaching organics and saying things like "We have this way of integrating organics and synthetics into one. It'll stop the war between you guys. Let's figure out how we can make this happen." That never happened. Also, the Catalyst outright says that the Synthesis option wasn't possible until, basically, the events of ME3. So someone is lying. I'm aware that Reapers are made from the melted remains of dead organic races.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 18:14:27 GMT
Reapers have never had our best interests at heart. That's why they are the antagonist and Shepard is the protagonist.
By implanting everyone with Reaper tech or merging everyone's DNA with theirs, the harvest completes, Reapers win essentially.
Kid is lying, it's kind of subtle with the control ending, and him giving you a big smirk when you disintegrate. Hard to see with the textures on him though.
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Post by souljahbill14 on Feb 2, 2018 18:42:15 GMT
That only works if you already believe that a proper sequel has to account for all the choices -- you're assuming what you're trying to prove. If it’s a sequel, it has to account for those choices, whether it’s the day after ME3 or 1000 years into the future.
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Post by zallister on Feb 2, 2018 21:31:43 GMT
If there will be a new Mass Effect it maybe will take part behind a looked Mass Relay in the Milky way. There was to much wrong in Andromeda, I don´t know if it would work to go further there.
You need a good director for a new Mass Effect, some part of the games look like that the team don´t talk enough with each other, and Mass Effect needs a military advisior. Some of Ryders actions and some of the inviroments look too insane in the view of a soldier.
You don´t go on a big enemy ship without a bomb to blow it up (ME2 and the same MEA). What idiot build his base directly at the Kett main base? Haven´t the Kett never invented AA guns? Sorry player, you died trying to land on EOS! Some cutscenes of ME2 looked like the animators never read the Codex and so don´t know how ME works. Give your people a small paper with the basics of Mass Effect.
Only a few examples I don´t want to see again in a Mass Effect game.
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