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Post by themikefest on Dec 7, 2018 14:31:33 GMT
But it's still false. It was Liara who made them at least speak about Kahje and found the decrypion key there. Is this from a comic book?
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Post by burningcherry on Dec 7, 2018 15:53:35 GMT
But it's still false. It was Liara who made them at least speak about Kahje and found the decrypion key there. Is this from a comic book? Yes, ME: Homeworlds 4.
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Post by SwobyJ on Dec 9, 2018 4:02:18 GMT
We were on topic until you got all butt-hurt about me saying this... You somehow came to the conclusion that this was an insult on your sex life. You sure as hell have thin skin if that's the case! The entire conversation was about Miranda until you flew off the rails... I was a little confused myself. It was entirely about Miranda, then went into something like "in my day" and somehow that got twisted into "why are you talking about my sex life". Anyway, Miranda is a hot, shapely woman who has a naughty side that's into public sex. She's also smart and competent but Shepard really only cares about the naughty side.
Now, I've never played this romance. Should be obvious. What I do know is that the Miranda in ME2 had changed in ME3. She seemed to be more "human", more well-rounded in her behavior toward others. I've seen videos of it, including when Shepard dumped her. There was that something in her voice that felt hurt by the rejection. Similarly, I've seen her die while romanced and, I don't know, I liked the Miranda we had in ME3 more than ME2.
ME2 Miranda - lol what is this End of ME2 Miranda - ok I see some things they're getting at but this is ridiculous lol ME3 Miranda - Ah, I kinda like this. Too bad she's so secondary now. Citadel Miranda - Wish I had this sort of writing and presentation (not necessarily the content, but the quality) from the start! I'll take a Miranda return in a ME5 just saying. I would not have been close to that position in 2010.
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Post by SwobyJ on Dec 9, 2018 4:05:00 GMT
So there's now a rumour being spread (by a guy with sources, take it how you will) that DA:4 is at least 3 years away. If this true, factoring this in, can I just say that I fully look forward to playing ME:5 ... on my quantum computer, in immersive virtual reality, sometime in the next century , which should be right around when Elder Scrolls 6 is released. If BW is expanded enough, a ME doesn't need to be so much longer after DA4. If DA4 is 2020-2022, ME can be 2022-2024. Within 4-5 years is sad, but not terrible given the already assumptive 'this'll be in the next gen' after Montreal closure. 5-6 years since MEA sounds about right for a series 'on ice' that can still be 'defrosted'.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2018 4:08:16 GMT
So there's now a rumour being spread (by a guy with sources, take it how you will) that DA:4 is at least 3 years away. If this true, factoring this in, can I just say that I fully look forward to playing ME:5 ... on my quantum computer, in immersive virtual reality, sometime in the next century , which should be right around when Elder Scrolls 6 is released. If BW is expanded enough, a ME doesn't need to be so much longer after DA4. If DA4 is 2020-2022, ME can be 2022-2024. Within 4-5 years is sad, but not terrible given the already assumptive 'this'll be in the next gen' after Montreal closure. 5-6 years since MEA sounds about right for a series 'on ice' that can still be 'defrosted'. Plus it's not like we haven't waited that long for a Mass Effect game anyway.
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Post by SwobyJ on Dec 9, 2018 4:11:18 GMT
I do think that Liara will make a good villain. Is this when we find out that every time she "embraced eternity" with Shepard she was also subtly trying to manipulate his/her mind so that she could be romanced? A high willpower Shepard resists while a weaker Shepard caves in. That's why a Shepard already on track for A/K would abandon them for her with little thought on the matter. A rejected Liara would grow disgruntled about how Shepard doesn't appreciate all she's done for him (never mind she'd be dead in the ruins of Therum had Shepard not come along) and have her bitterness turn her into an anti-human terrorist. I think this could work, especially after she uses her resources as the Shadow Broker to go after humans. Further, she can begin to systematically kill off anyone who knows she's the Shadow Broker. Y'all jest but I still fantasize about going to a MW where everyone is some evil/twisted/suffering version of the in-purgatory-but-we-help-out versions we see in the MET. Take all problematic elements of all the characters and reboot the characters with emphasis on these elements. Then compare how MET players and fresh players treat it. /SuperIndocTheory
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Post by SwobyJ on Dec 9, 2018 4:14:02 GMT
If BW is expanded enough, a ME doesn't need to be so much longer after DA4. If DA4 is 2020-2022, ME can be 2022-2024. Within 4-5 years is sad, but not terrible given the already assumptive 'this'll be in the next gen' after Montreal closure. 5-6 years since MEA sounds about right for a series 'on ice' that can still be 'defrosted'. Plus it's not like we haven't waited that long for a Mass Effect game anyway. I'm certain by now that Bioware intends on full scale ME production sooner than later. It is just a matter of time, yeah.
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Post by NotN7 on Dec 9, 2018 5:22:36 GMT
I'm thinking more along the lines of if Anthem works out that DA4 and ME2 or ME4 (MW) will or I should say be able to be produced in a more timely fashion since (this is just me)they wouldn't have to include MP giving them more time to finish, since Anthem has the MP covered.
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Post by Basquemercat117 on Dec 9, 2018 8:45:15 GMT
So there's now a rumour being spread (by a guy with sources, take it how you will) that DA:4 is at least 3 years away. If this true, factoring this in, can I just say that I fully look forward to playing ME:5 ... on my quantum computer, in immersive virtual reality, sometime in the next century , which should be right around when Elder Scrolls 6 is released. If BW is expanded enough, a ME doesn't need to be so much longer after DA4. If DA4 is 2020-2022, ME can be 2022-2024. Within 4-5 years is sad, but not terrible given the already assumptive 'this'll be in the next gen' after Montreal closure. 5-6 years since MEA sounds about right for a series 'on ice' that can still be 'defrosted'. granted i made a post about this awhile ago, but i dont thing the next ME game will take that long. knowing that bioware is bring more people on and they dont have to do an engine change, and knowing the fact the usually release game 2 years after announcing it, i see DA4 being released in 2020 and ME5 2021, or at latest 2021. granted that depends on if Montreal started working on the next installment or if edmonten started working on it sooner or later and how ambitious they are with the game. honestly i expect to see the next ME game in 4 years.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 9, 2018 13:21:05 GMT
I'll take a Miranda return in a ME5 just saying. I rather have her return in ME4, just saying.
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Post by burningcherry on Dec 9, 2018 13:27:24 GMT
I don't see Miranda returning at all, lol. A game where it happens would have to cover the option where Brooks isn't killed but detained and interrogated and reveals that Miranda is guilty of allowing the Normandy steal to happen. My Shepard may be forgiving but she's not stupid to trust Lawson with anything after this.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 9, 2018 14:37:28 GMT
I dont believe any of the ye'olde trilogy members will ever return
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 9, 2018 15:21:31 GMT
I don't see Miranda returning at all, lol. A game where it happens would have to cover the option where Brooks isn't killed but detained and interrogated and reveals that Miranda is guilty of allowing the Normandy steal to happen. My Shepard may be forgiving but she's not stupid to trust Lawson with anything after this. Wait, where is this said?
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Post by burningcherry on Dec 9, 2018 16:03:54 GMT
I don't see Miranda returning at all, lol. A game where it happens would have to cover the option where Brooks isn't killed but detained and interrogated and reveals that Miranda is guilty of allowing the Normandy steal to happen. My Shepard may be forgiving but she's not stupid to trust Lawson with anything after this. Wait, where is this said? masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Miranda_Lawson#Mass_Effect:_Foundation_13
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Dec 10, 2018 5:10:49 GMT
^ Just dropping by. Uh, that only revealed the agent's escape with the clone and that Miranda acted too late to stop it. Moreover, TIM ordered her to drop the pursuit. Where did it say Miranda allowed the Normandy steal to happen? I'm puzzled.
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Post by burningcherry on Dec 10, 2018 9:04:43 GMT
^ Just dropping by. Uh, that only revealed the agent's escape with the clone and that Miranda acted too late to stop it. Moreover, TIM ordered her to drop the pursuit. Where did it say Miranda allowed the Normandy steal to happen? I'm puzzled. She knew that the clone is somewhere, in hands of a mad woman, and neither alerted Shepard about it (actually, she denies all knowledge when pinned against the wall) nor cared about properly securing the Normandy (for example, using Shepard's memories instead of a fingerprint as a password) when she could. btw. didn't we play together recently? OGryphon?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Dec 10, 2018 11:13:50 GMT
^ Just dropping by. Uh, that only revealed the agent's escape with the clone and that Miranda acted too late to stop it. Moreover, TIM ordered her to drop the pursuit. Where did it say Miranda allowed the Normandy steal to happen? I'm puzzled. She knew that the clone is somewhere, in hands of a mad woman, and neither alerted Shepard about it (actually, she denies all knowledge when pitted against the wall) nor cared about properly securing the Normandy (for example, using Shepard's memories instead of a fingerprint as a password) when she could. btw. didn't we play together recently? OGryphon? Oh I see. I interpreted it as writers' failure to seque events / lore properly. ME3 was released in 2012, Citadel DLC in 2013, Foundation #13 (last issue) in 2014. But then they didn't have an arc planned, they were flying by the seat of their pants. That's all I'm going to say of this. Oh yes, we did play some matches together.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 10, 2018 14:02:03 GMT
ME2 Miranda - lol what is this End of ME2 Miranda - ok I see some things they're getting at but this is ridiculous lol ME3 Miranda - Ah, I kinda like this. Too bad she's so secondary now. Citadel Miranda - Wish I had this sort of writing and presentation (not necessarily the content, but the quality) from the start! I'll take a Miranda return in a ME5 just saying. I would not have been close to that position in 2010. Same. Didn't care for Miranda in most of ME2 but for two exceptions. One, in her LM, where we learn that she does have a barely beating heart in her chest after all. Two, IF you destroy the Collector Base and IF you have Miranda at the end - you get to see Miranda to tell TIM to go to hell and resign. Those are great things about Miranda. (Her thinking she ought to lead a squad full of people who hate and distrust her is baffling.) In ME3 things really ramped up for her and I wish she'd had more screen time. As you said, her writing in Citadel was spot on. We saw more depth to her there than in any other part of ME2/3.
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Post by SwobyJ on Dec 10, 2018 17:23:13 GMT
I think Miranda reflects one of the bigger flaws of ME2 - flash over substance, even as ME2 still has most substance than most video games at the time. Sometimes this was fine enough for a character, but sometimes this wasn't enough, and it wasn't enough for Miranda. For every butt shot or weak refrain of 'mah sistah', I saw a missed opportunity for something more compelling.
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Post by talemore on Dec 22, 2018 21:38:23 GMT
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Dec 22, 2018 21:57:49 GMT
Story start on earth with a new threat. To save everyone from being killed by AI A hero must go on a quest to save the world. Another one? No thanks, didnt we just have 3 games of it?
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Post by burningcherry on Dec 24, 2018 10:49:25 GMT
I think Miranda reflects one of the bigger flaws of ME2 - flash over substance Seems fair, the writers didn't even care about doing simple maths and made her be created a biotic long before humanity learned that biotics exist, not to mention working with them. This character had the poorest writing possible since the very beginning, all for the purpose of flash.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 24, 2018 12:27:07 GMT
I like Miranda. It's too bad ME3 had her sister thing again. Couldn't Bioware come up with something different? I would have had her on the SR2 in ME3.
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Post by natetrace on Dec 24, 2018 16:43:38 GMT
I have no complaints about my squad in me2 and 3, except for one. I always thought they should have changed their clothes from 2, especially for Miranda. The Cerberus logo is gone, but that's it.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 25, 2018 9:12:46 GMT
I like Miranda. It's too bad ME3 had her sister thing again. Couldn't Bioware come up with something different? I would have had her on the SR2 in ME3. Not if it involves having their favourite Blue Creeper not joining Sheps crew.
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