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Post by Iakus on Feb 28, 2018 20:14:03 GMT
Tone down the porno scenes- fade to Blacks after intense kissing flirting is good. Even some post coital nudity where you chit chat is good (IB, Cullen Chest, Dorian butt). Watching naked Jaal go down on naked Ryder is tooooooooooo much. If there is going to be nudity, I’d actually prefer it to take place during a cutscene rather than the post-sex conversation. At least then people who don’t want to see it can just skip it rather than be forced to look at it for a few minutes. With Cassandra's romance, you are forced to have a conversation with a topless Cassandra afterwards. There's less nudity during the romance scene than after it! So yeah, I'd rather they focus more on relationship development than on the t&a. Romances have gotten really shallow lately.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 28, 2018 20:15:42 GMT
If there is going to be nudity, I’d actually prefer it to take place during a cutscene rather than the post-sex conversation. At least then people who don’t want to see it can just skip it rather than be forced to look at it for a few minutes. With Cassandra's romance, you are forced to have a conversation with a topless Cassandra afterwards. There's less nudity during the romance scene than after it! So yeah, I'd rather they focus more on relationship development than on the t&a. Romances have gotten really shallow lately. I disagree about the romances getting shallow, at least with some of them, but agree with them focusing less on the sexy times.
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Post by warden on Feb 28, 2018 20:17:43 GMT
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Post by phoray on Feb 28, 2018 23:08:18 GMT
Tone down the porno scenes- fade to Blacks after intense kissing flirting is good. Even some post coital nudity where you chit chat is good (IB, Cullen Chest, Dorian butt). Watching naked Jaal go down on naked Ryder is tooooooooooo much. If there is going to be nudity, I’d actually prefer it to take place during a cutscene rather than the post-sex conversation. At least then people who don’t want to see it can just skip it rather than be forced to look at it for a few minutes. o-o except some of us want to drool over our romance interests pieces parts without actually watching porn (awkward awkward porn). Also your request only works if every single romance option is sex optional. Which I thought wasn't even what you wanted, I thought you wanted an Asexual Romance and Sex Optional cancels out the Asexualness. Unrelated to your statement, I also find the casual half dressed semi nude scenes to be "real" for lack of a better term. Most people (and I've had 14 lovers) don't immediately get dressed after sex. They cuddle, and chill, and talk, and maybe barely drag a sheet up over their waist before falling to sleep. So Inky and Cass hanging out nude together for a loving chat? Real. Dorian and Inky doing the same? Real. IB and Cullen laying back in the glow as busy Inky gets dressed to return to the Harsh world? Real. Even the not as cool "Inky nude in the barn, waking up from a sleep where Blackwall ditched her" is real (although that whole scenario is just a bit weird. I didn't want to see my gal naked, I want to see Blackwall's bum/chest)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 28, 2018 23:47:37 GMT
If there is going to be nudity, I’d actually prefer it to take place during a cutscene rather than the post-sex conversation. At least then people who don’t want to see it can just skip it rather than be forced to look at it for a few minutes. o-o except some of us want to drool over our romance interests pieces parts without actually watching porn (awkward awkward porn). Also your request only works if every single romance option is sex optional. Which I thought wasn't even what you wanted, I thought you wanted an Asexual Romance and Sex Optional cancels out the Asexualness. Unrelated to your statement, I also find the casual half dressed semi nude scenes to be "real" for lack of a better term. Most people (and I've had 14 lovers) don't immediately get dressed after sex. They cuddle, and chill, and talk, and maybe barely drag a sheet up over their waist before falling to sleep. So Inky and Cass hanging out nude together for a loving chat? Real. Dorian and Inky doing the same? Real. IB and Cullen laying back in the glow as busy Inky gets dressed to return to the Harsh world? Real. Even the not as cool "Inky nude in the barn, waking up from a sleep where Blackwall ditched her" is real (although that whole scenario is just a bit weird. I didn't want to see my gal naked, I want to see Blackwall's bum/chest) No it doesn't. It works for all romance scenes since Bioware has always had a "Press *insert button here* to skip dialogue or cutscene" option in their games. I'm referring to that since those who want to see it can while those who don't just have to press a button without missing anything, whereas if they are nude during dialogue then if you don't want to see it then you have to also miss content that is said. Sometimes you can't even make a dialogue choice without seeing the wheel right next to the stuff you are uncomfortable with. I do want an asexual or explicitly non-sexual options(in case the reason is something other than orientation). That said, I also know it most likely will not be happening for a while since even super progressive devs like Patrick Weekes said having optional or ambiguous options is enough for now. And even those are hit and miss, with most not working and still clearly hinting there was sex. I think the only ones that still hold up in the last decade are Kelly and Josephine for ambiguous and Cora and maybe Dorian for optional, and even most of those have a couple minor things that conflict with it. So until they are willing to go full nonsexual romances, yes I would like as many optional ones as possible. If they do have to have the nude post-coital scenes, then I wish they add the underwear toggle that can be chosen so those who want to see it can and those who don't just have them covered.
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Post by phoray on Mar 1, 2018 0:00:52 GMT
Sometimes you can't even make a dialogue choice without seeing the wheel right next to the stuff you are uncomfortable with. wut
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 1, 2018 0:06:56 GMT
Sometimes you can't even make a dialogue choice without seeing the wheel right next to the stuff you are uncomfortable with. wut For example in the The Iron Bull romance, the dialogue wheel in one of those scenes is like right atop of the Inquisitor's breasts, so you can not choose a dialogue option without seeing them.
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Post by phoray on Mar 1, 2018 0:18:17 GMT
wut For example in the The Iron Bull romance, the dialogue wheel in one of those scenes is like right atop of the Inquisitor's breasts, so you can not choose a dialogue option without seeing them. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Okay. that's a bad Camera angle choice.
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Post by melbella on Mar 1, 2018 1:26:54 GMT
wut For example in the The Iron Bull romance, the dialogue wheel in one of those scenes is like right atop of the Inquisitor's breasts, so you can not choose a dialogue option without seeing them.
Er, if you are so anti-sex/nudity in games, then what are you doing romancing Iron Bull (or watching someone else's game of romancing him)?
Also, not an issue if your Inq. is male since bare male chest no one apparently has issues with.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 1, 2018 1:36:39 GMT
Tone down the porno scenes- fade to Blacks after intense kissing flirting is good. Even some post coital nudity where you chit chat is good (IB, Cullen Chest, Dorian butt). Watching naked Jaal go down on naked Ryder is tooooooooooo much. I don't even romance Jaal but I thought his sex scene was pretty great; would've liked to have something similar for Vetra rather than flirt + fade to black. Cora and Peebee's scenes were great (for men, anyway. Peebee's sex scene with female Ryder was obviously tacked on from the male version...). I loved Sera's scene because she and Inky were both naked and it was fairly obvious what sex act was taking place. I'm all for more explicit scenes. And also being able to "nope" out of sex for some romances.
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Post by dazk on Mar 1, 2018 1:43:13 GMT
Tone down the porno scenes- fade to Blacks after intense kissing flirting is good. Even some post coital nudity where you chit chat is good (IB, Cullen Chest, Dorian butt). Watching naked Jaal go down on naked Ryder is tooooooooooo much. I don't even romance Jaal but I thought his sex scene was pretty great; would've liked to have something similar for Vetra rather than flirt + fade to black. Cora and Peebee's scenes were great (for men, anyway. Peebee's sex scene with female Ryder was obviously tacked on from the male version...). I loved Sera's scene because she and Inky were both naked and it was fairly obvious what sex act was taking place. I'm all for more explicit scenes. And also being able to "nope" out of sex for some romances. Yeah Liam's fade to black with Sara was disappointing as well. I agree I am all for them as well and if you don't want to watch "skip". I liked Sera's romance scene too, it was fun and casual
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Post by phoray on Mar 1, 2018 1:57:51 GMT
Liam's fade to black with Sara was disappointing as well. Wut, I loved it. The head bump, the kissing, the push to the couch. Then Fade to black. Then I can imagine as little or as much as I want.
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Post by dazk on Mar 1, 2018 2:40:01 GMT
Liam's fade to black with Sara was disappointing as well. Wut, I loved it. The head bump, the kissing, the push to the couch. Then Fade to black. Then I can imagine as little or as much as I want. Up until then I'd only done the PeeBee and Cora romances so the fade to black was disappointing as I expected a cut-scene. The actual romance itself was possibly the best of all of them.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 1, 2018 2:45:05 GMT
For example in the The Iron Bull romance, the dialogue wheel in one of those scenes is like right atop of the Inquisitor's breasts, so you can not choose a dialogue option without seeing them.
Er, if you are so anti-sex/nudity in games, then what are you doing romancing Iron Bull (or watching someone else's game of romancing him)?
Also, not an issue if your Inq. is male since bare male chest no one apparently has issues with.
I was just using that romance as an example since I've seen that image posted in the forums before and it's been used to discuss this before. I have issue with bare male chests as well.
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Post by phoray on Mar 1, 2018 3:47:01 GMT
I have issue with bare male chests as well. I find this curious. Do you actually see nudity as sexually charged in all cases? AS a health professional, nudity is just a state that people are sometimes in. I don't even hardly like clothes myself, and run around my house underwear only pretty often. And even then, if I were small chested, I probably wouldn't even bother with the bra part. I suppose I find your reaction odd, because I thought to be asexual meant you didn't see things sexually. But you're seeing sex in non sexual things like a bare chest.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 1, 2018 7:57:42 GMT
Well, talking about Jaal, from a gay man's point of view, it was pretty freaking amazing experiencing such a sexual scene with two men in a (supposedly) AAA game. That was one for history books. I wasn't super turned on by it and I'm not saying sex scenes are important or that I even care about them, but I mean, that was really amazing to me.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Mar 1, 2018 9:28:08 GMT
... well, thanks to this thread I am even more interested in romancing Jaal.
(I think I'm going to stick with Awesome Bird Wife on this run and save Delightful Catsquid Husbando for the future, though, since I think he'll work better with some other Ryder. The emotional, light-hearted one I have made is a better balance for Vetra, I feel.)
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Post by melbella on Mar 1, 2018 13:44:47 GMT
Hope you like it. I.....really didn't. And doing it made me not like Jaal much at all in subsequent PTs - it basically ruined his character for me.
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Post by shechinah on Mar 1, 2018 14:19:07 GMT
Hope you like it. I.....really didn't. And doing it made me not like Jaal much at all in subsequent PTs - it basically ruined his character for me. I honestly ended up not liking Jaal's romance because it seemed too different from how he otherwise acted and had acted previously. It seemed too... saccharine. Yeah, I know people can sometimes seem like a whole other person when they're with someone they love but it felt too much, in my opinion, and I rather liked Jaal the way he was before.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 1, 2018 18:26:25 GMT
Hope you like it. I.....really didn't. And doing it made me not like Jaal much at all in subsequent PTs - it basically ruined his character for me. Same here.
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Post by Walter Black on Mar 1, 2018 18:44:46 GMT
Hope you like it. I.....really didn't. And doing it made me not like Jaal much at all in subsequent PTs - it basically ruined his character for me. Same here. How exactly did Jaal's romance arc ruin his entire character for you?
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Post by pinkjellybeans on Mar 1, 2018 19:04:39 GMT
Tone down the porno scenes- fade to Blacks after intense kissing flirting is good. Even some post coital nudity where you chit chat is good (IB, Cullen Chest, Dorian butt). Watching naked Jaal go down on naked Ryder is tooooooooooo much. I don't even romance Jaal but I thought his sex scene was pretty great; would've liked to have something similar for Vetra rather than flirt + fade to black. Cora and Peebee's scenes were great (for men, anyway. Peebee's sex scene with female Ryder was obviously tacked on from the male version...). I loved Sera's scene because she and Inky were both naked and it was fairly obvious what sex act was taking place. I'm all for more explicit scenes. And also being able to "nope" out of sex for some romances. Same, I honestly don't see a problem with Jaal's sex scene either. I thought that whole romance scene was incredibly well done actually, full of emotions and passion. It faded to black right before it got too explicit. Cora's sex scene was amazing in the sense that animations were top notch and all the foreplay was rather cute and believable. That last scene where you see them doing it on the desk may be too much for some people but I don't see how that counts as "porn" really, since you see it for what, 3 seconds before it fades to black? I do agree that building a relationship and flirting and whatnot is more important to me than seeing the characters having sex, but in the end I feel like that is also important since it's the culmination of all the flirting and bonding. I also like that all characters have their own sex scenes that fit them and their personalities, like for example Sera's. As much as I don't like Sera, her sex scene was pretty good and funny. Lol
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Post by themikefest on Mar 1, 2018 19:37:34 GMT
I'm sure there will be spiders in the game, but I like to see..ooh...I don't know...how about prying mantis? Giant beetles? Cockroaches just to hear a few eeew comments from the characters. If the homebase has it where the main character can jump from great heights without hurting themselves, I like that changed to a game over screen. If not, at least let the main character yell GERONIMOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Post by warden on Mar 1, 2018 19:46:21 GMT
I'm sure there will be spiders in the game, but I like to see..ooh...I don't know...how about prying mantis? Giant beetles? Cockroaches just to hear a few eeew comments from the characters. If the homebase has it where the main character can jump from great heights without hurting themselves, I like that changed to a game over screen. If not, at least let the main character yell GERONIMOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Or this.
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Post by dazk on Mar 1, 2018 21:17:52 GMT
How exactly did Jaal's romance arc ruin his entire character for you? Well it did it for me as well, its just the communication, email and talking to him becomes too saccharine/sweet and "icky" when you are romancing him and its hard to forget having read them when you are playing when not romancing him. I just found it over the top and slightly creepy and it spoiled his personality for me after that. Sorry if that doesn't make sense its hard to put into words.
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