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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Feb 4, 2018 22:53:29 GMT
Cass had a dead ex, which you only find out about if you romance her, but I think she's the only one. Anders had Karl which, again, you only find out about as male Hawke. Zevran, of course, had Rinna. ME was worse, Thane and Steve being the most egregious examples. It's still old though, as is the "virgin/first love" type (Alistair, Liara, Tali, etc.). Time for some experience but preferably without the tragedy tag-alongs. DAI did ok with the older cast of characters but just couldn't leave the tragic past completely out of it. Oh, yeah, your right about Cass. I don't think she ever mentions beyond once if you don't romance her and it isn't the main focus on her character (unlike a lot of revengeful heartbroken types) so I kind of forget about it. Still, I think the Dragon Age games have done an alright job with avoiding this archetype. Even Zevran isn't always weeping and declaring "REVENGE!" for the death of Rinna.
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Post by melbella on Feb 4, 2018 23:00:55 GMT
It's not usually about revenge though. It's just this specter hanging over the relationship, casting a pall. I get not wanting to forget someone like that, but for crap's sake...it's been YEARS in most cases. MOVE ON ALREADY. Better yet, don't have it as part of their past to begin with. Try something else for a change.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 4, 2018 23:01:25 GMT
I think it's just been done in fiction SO MUCH that I'd rather not see it ever again, regardless of the fact that Dragon Age specifically hasn't really gone there.
I wouldn't mind a widow/widower by itself though. Just without all the tropey stuff. Maevaris lost Thorold, after all...
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Feb 4, 2018 23:36:38 GMT
It's not usually about revenge though. It's just this specter hanging over the relationship, casting a pall. I get not wanting to forget someone like that, but for crap's sake...it's been YEARS in most cases. MOVE ON ALREADY. Better yet, don't have it as part of their past to begin with. Try something else for a change. Yeah, I could see that being annoying if your trying to romance a character and they keep comparing you to their significant other. I still can't really fault that character or person for feeling that way though. Ultimately, I don't think old tropes and archetypes are bad so as long as their executed well. Thane for instance having a dead wife as part of his backstory didn't bother me but the fact that was 50% of what he talked about did.
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Post by leadintea on Feb 5, 2018 8:25:44 GMT
as is the "virgin/first love" type I'd kill for a gay male virgin archetype LI.
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 5, 2018 23:06:40 GMT
^ I think it'd be awesome to be able to send your actual companions out on missions. Like when you have half your group defending Denerim and the other half fighting the Archdemon, or in ME2 where you assign someone to lead the second fire team, etc. I like the idea of not having the PC as a required party member, in theory. It definitely would've been interesting in Inquisition, at some spots, although the sheer number of Rifts when out exploring probably would've made it infeasible. On the other hand, I'm hoping DA4 is more of a personal arc and not the leader-of-the-one-last-hope story again, so on that note, it would probably make less sense if I get what I want on that front. ...but if I don't, then I'll take this as a consolation prize! I also hope that they allow for more versatile parties. I feel like in Inquisition and Origins, especially, failing to have one of each class type, or having more than two melee fighters, made gameplay too restrictive. I hope every class can bring something to the table, but if I want to play with 2 Warriors, a dagger Rogue, and an Archer, say, or, for that matter, four different Mages, I won't have to miss/put off any content.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Feb 5, 2018 23:18:46 GMT
I think we managed to make Guard feel okay Please don't get rid of guard. I really enjoyed this mechanic as an SnS player. While shields were useful and important, I liked that my tank had his own thing to generate that would keep him in the game.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 6, 2018 2:18:17 GMT
I liked that there was tint in DAI to have different colors for each piece of armor, but I like to have the same color for each piece of armor. If possible, have tint for weapons.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 6, 2018 3:52:01 GMT
If the main character has a house/fortress/castle, I'm sure that each companion will have their own room, so I would like for each room to have a mannequin for the companion to store their armor on when not on a quest. The same for the main character.
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Post by phoray on Feb 6, 2018 3:59:38 GMT
I liked that there was tint in DAI to have different colors for each piece of armor, but I like to have the same color for each piece of armor. If possible, have tint for weapons. yeah, like the handles for Rogue swords.
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Post by phoray on Feb 6, 2018 4:00:15 GMT
If the main character has a house/fortress/castle, I'm sure that each companion will have their own room, so I would like for each room to have a mannequin for the companion to store their armor on when not on a quest. The same for the main character. oooo, and the characters have "every day, not in battle" clothes?
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Post by naughtynomad on Feb 6, 2018 15:53:54 GMT
as is the "virgin/first love" type I'd kill for a gay male virgin archetype LI. Are you talking virgin virgin or a gay virgin? I think a character who hasn't come to terms with his sexuality and has his first gay experience with the player's character would be pretty interesting.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 6, 2018 16:02:36 GMT
as is the "virgin/first love" type I'd kill for a gay male virgin archetype LI. So...a virgin sacrifice...
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Post by phoray on Feb 6, 2018 16:07:39 GMT
I'd kill for a gay male virgin archetype LI. Are you talking virgin virgin or a gay virgin? I think a character who hasn't come to terms with his sexuality and has his first gay experience with the player's character would be pretty interesting. I'd hope they would be massively careful about it. A lot of virgins are young- with Alistair, it seemed more like limited opportunity due to upbringing so he was still a virgin at 21 and he's been the only virigin so far. I feel like they could be pushing the envelope on a non skeevy age to try to get a gay homesexual on board. Sera comes off as very young, but I think she's still supposed to be 19-21 and still very experienced. and I've known one friend who slept with girlfriend before figuring out he was obviously gay. Also see lots of gay people who had children with previous lovers/married partners. Perhaps homesexuality in Thedas wouldn't have the same problems \_' ' _/ <- (attempt at shrug emoji) but Thedas has also been implied to be sexually encouraging/lenient so young sex isn't stigmatized. What issue does this potential gay LI have that he waited? "he was waiting for love" ? Which some people honestly do in real life, don't get me wrong here, but that phrase is also usually said in the same breath as something religious. And there isn't any religion in Thedas that encourages waiting until marriage.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 6, 2018 16:14:41 GMT
Are you talking virgin virgin or a gay virgin? I think a character who hasn't come to terms with his sexuality and has his first gay experience with the player's character would be pretty interesting. I'd hope they would be massively careful about it. A lot of virgins are young- with Alistair, it seemed more like limited opportunity due to upbringing so he was still a virgin at 21 and he's been the only virigin so far. I feel like they could be pushing the envelope on a non skeevy age to try to get a gay homesexual on board. Sera comes off as very young, but I think she's still supposed to be 19-21 and still very experienced. and I've known one friend who slept with girlfriend before figuring out he was obviously gay. Also see lots of gay people who had children with previous lovers/married partners. Perhaps homesexuality in Thedas wouldn't have the same problems \_' ' _/ <- (attempt at shrug emoji) but Thedas has also been implied to be sexually encouraging/lenient so young sex isn't stigmatized. What issue does this potential gay LI have that he waited? "he was waiting for love" ? Which some people honestly do in real life, don't get me wrong here, but that phrase is also usually said in the same breath as something religious. And there isn't any religion in Thedas that encourages waiting until marriage. Alistair wanted to "wait for love" - and yeah, he spent a good chunk of his life in the Chantry, but his views on sex seem to have more to do with being a romantic than being religious. I don't think there's any particular stigma against unmarried sex in Andrastianism anyway, so it likely has more to do with his personality. And a lot of gay and bi dudes loved his personality. A shy, inexperienced gay guy would be cool. As long as his "I've never kissed a boy!"-ness wasn't the sole focus of his character.
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Post by phoray on Feb 6, 2018 16:27:30 GMT
"I've never kissed a boy!"-ness wasn't the sole focus of his character. I concede your point and agree. But I'd like the young gay boy to be very solidly comfortable that he just never found women appealing in that fashion. And lack of opportunity? and perhaps even the, "And if I was going to do it, I wanted to wait till I found a man I really liked." So just no drama about his sexuality at all, but also just hasn't had the experience yet.
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Post by warden on Feb 6, 2018 16:34:02 GMT
interesting characters.
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Post by leadintea on Feb 6, 2018 17:17:36 GMT
I'd kill for a gay male virgin archetype LI. Are you talking virgin virgin or a gay virgin? I think a character who hasn't come to terms with his sexuality and has his first gay experience with the player's character would be pretty interesting. Just a gay virgin like there are straight virgins characters. I don't want to deal with characters who are uncertain about their sexuality and I really hope there's never such a character like that. It's a common and annoying trope in gay media IMO and it doesn't seem like it'd fit too much in Thedas, where civilizations are more sexually enlightened than any in our current age.
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Post by Gwydden on Feb 7, 2018 3:57:48 GMT
I'd hope they would be massively careful about it. A lot of virgins are young- with Alistair, it seemed more like limited opportunity due to upbringing so he was still a virgin at 21 and he's been the only virigin so far. I feel like they could be pushing the envelope on a non skeevy age to try to get a gay homesexual on board. Sera comes off as very young, but I think she's still supposed to be 19-21 and still very experienced. and I've known one friend who slept with girlfriend before figuring out he was obviously gay. Also see lots of gay people who had children with previous lovers/married partners. Perhaps homesexuality in Thedas wouldn't have the same problems \_' ' _/ <- (attempt at shrug emoji) but Thedas has also been implied to be sexually encouraging/lenient so young sex isn't stigmatized. What issue does this potential gay LI have that he waited? "he was waiting for love" ? Which some people honestly do in real life, don't get me wrong here, but that phrase is also usually said in the same breath as something religious. And there isn't any religion in Thedas that encourages waiting until marriage. There's reason to think that in affluent democracies, where young sex isn't stigmatized, people are waiting longer to get laid. The choice to do it early also implies one to do away with urgency. The obvious case, much talked about, is Japan, that famous sanctuary of traditional sexual mores, religious conservatism, and desexualization of the young.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 7, 2018 5:41:50 GMT
BioWare should hire choreographers and invest in a motion capture studio to improve and revamp combat design, and as well as animations in general. As well as recruit experienced animators and combat designers.
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Post by yeah rip on Feb 7, 2018 14:30:26 GMT
- playable origin stories - tactics - healing magic - better tactical cam - Force Mage spec and entropy tree - multiple race options for protagonists - probably too much to ask for, but a dialogue wheel that lets us know exactly what we're going to say would be nice - a "hold position" command that actually works - any command that actually works - thiccer elves - DAI was an improvement over DA2, but the elves still look like they can be snapped in half by a child - better proportions for dwarves and qunari, and elves - no manboobs for male elves - more "grounded" combat animations - fewer backflips from the spot and staff-twirling, put some "weight" into two-handed weapons - more "grounded" weapon designs - better looking armor for females - I get that they wanted to get away from the titty armor thing, but they went too far. There are a lot of ways to make it look both pretty and practical. - switching between two weapons - more ability slots - accessing inventory in combat - better hair - consistent banter or banter trigger points - probably also too much to ask, but stepping away from the whole "open world, huge maps" thing would be nice. Make maps smaller, but more concentrated. - city elf origin - non-noble human origin (not counting the mandatory mage origin) - fewer fetch quests - fewer, but more meaningful side quests - cinematic conversations - more morally grey choices, but less contrived - fewer cameos from previous games - Thedas is a big place with more people than our party members/associated from previous games - asking too much again but less connection with books, comics and what have you. I'm sick of being left out of some plot-relevant lore bits just because I don't have extra money to waste on Bioware. adding to this - un-nerf the mages. Playing a nuker mage isn't the same in DAI. I know some spells were really overpowered in the past (cone of cold, mana clash), but I honestly didn't mind because mages are supposed to be overpowered. We're often told how powerful and dangerous mages are but I don't get this feeling with DAI mages at all. With my DAO nuker I really felt like yup, seven of these in an army would be more than enough. People who don't want OP mages could - get ready - not use the OP spells. - un-nerf the enemy mages and archers. Opening up DAO again after playing DAI for a month, I'd forgotten how dangerous archers and mages could be and got my arse kicked pretty bad for ignoring them. A Scattershot or Chain Lightning from an enemy can seriously ruin your day. In DAI - yeah, it's probably a good idea to take out a spellbinder early, but it's not a "shit shit kill him before he casts" moment like in DAO. - an option to cast at least some spells without a staff - don't make ALL elves follow Solas or the Qun - I said how I don't want the plot-important bits to be introduced in books/comics - I would also extend this to DLCs. If I hadn't played that DA2 DLC with Corypheus, the whole Hawke involvement in DAI would have come out of nowhere and felt like a bad fanfic. DLCs like Jaws of Hakkon are fine where the whole first Inquisitor thing was just like learning a fun historical fact. It's a different story with Descent - the Titans are apparently super important to the lore of Thedas, but I know nothing of them just because I'm not interested in buying that DLC. - adding to the previous point, please put the game's ending into an actual game, not a 15€ DLC - proper background music - more atmospheric music in general (getting Inon Zur back is probably too much to ask) - repeating myself, but better dialogue wheel that shows us exactlky what we're going to say or ideally, no dialogue wheel at all. It's ridiculous how much better the dialogue system was in DAO. I've had it for years and even though I make a point of checking out as many options as I can, I'm still discovering some pretty extensive conversation branches that I never knew existed. Like, just yesterday I heard Shianni 1) being giddy about Howe's death, 2) saying some pretty cutting (but accurate) things about the alienage's community. And she apparently has a mean right hook. - basically, let DA4 be more like Origins (Yes, I love DAO so much that maybe I will marry it)
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Post by phoray on Feb 7, 2018 16:07:18 GMT
BioWare should hire choreographers and invest in a motion capture studio to improve and revamp combat design, and as well as animations in general. As well as recruit experienced animators and combat designers. The problem with the expense of all that is that for every scene they do it with, it has to be a scene that everyone will see. Because the expense isn't worth it if only 10% of players will ever see it. That's why the games that devote themselves that direction play like movies with action sequences you control in between. Dragon Age has always had branching story that adds to replayability. Linearity is cheaper when these fancy techniques are used. I don't want Story Linearity. I want to have a 30-75% difference feeling in my 2nd playthrough from my first. so while everyone is clamoring for these sorts of techniques I am against them if they take away the Branching Non Linearity of Story that I adore.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 7, 2018 21:14:16 GMT
BioWare should hire choreographers and invest in a motion capture studio to improve and revamp combat design, and as well as animations in general. As well as recruit experienced animators and combat designers. The problem with the expense of all that is that for every scene they do it with, it has to be a scene that everyone will see. Because the expense isn't worth it if only 10% of players will ever see it. That's why the games that devote themselves that direction play like movies with action sequences you control in between. Dragon Age has always had branching story that adds to replayability. Linearity is cheaper when these fancy techniques are used. I don't want Story Linearity. I want to have a 30-75% difference feeling in my 2nd playthrough from my first. so while everyone is clamoring for these sorts of techniques I am against them if they take away the Branching Non Linearity of Story that I adore.
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Post by phoray on Feb 7, 2018 21:18:58 GMT
cloud9Progress is not trashing literally everything you have, making something entirely different, and putting it out under the same name of Dragon Age. I think the word you're looking for is "Innovation" and I'm a fan of it. But Innovation is a mild to moderate change in the battle mechanics, improved graphics, more immersive storytelling with the newest tech that supports what Dragon Age is all about. If you don't like DA, go play uncharted or anything else by naughty Dog. With their movie with playable intermissions.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 7, 2018 21:44:40 GMT
Fancy hats that dont replace my hair with weird skin cap please.
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