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Post by Sifr on Jan 23, 2019 8:09:45 GMT
I think my main Dragon Age wish would be for the next Dragon Age game to be the final game in the Dragon Age series and contain a conclusion to the Solas story arc, with the Inquisitor's story arc concluded as well (this could even be handled completely off screen if they need to for 'money' reasons, I just want a conclusion). Bioware said even before DA2 that they had plans for (at least) five games in the DA setting.
Inquisition was apparently meant to be the second "main" game in the series, with DA2 being more of a sidequel meant to set up it's events. Sort of similar to how the story of Assassin's Creed 2 had two sequels (Brotherhood and Revelations) that continued it's story and featured Ezio, before going onto Assassin's Creed 3.
The only it was called DA2 was executive meddling from EA who wanted to market it as a direct sequel to Origins to capitalise on it's success. That begs the question of whether DA2 counts into the "five-game-plan" or not?
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Post by colfoley on Jan 23, 2019 8:28:10 GMT
I think my main Dragon Age wish would be for the next Dragon Age game to be the final game in the Dragon Age series and contain a conclusion to the Solas story arc, with the Inquisitor's story arc concluded as well (this could even be handled completely off screen if they need to for 'money' reasons, I just want a conclusion). Bioware said even before DA2 that they had plans for (at least) five games in the DA setting.
Inquisition was apparently meant to be the second "main" game in the series, with DA2 being more of a sidequel meant to set up it's events. Sort of similar to how the story of Assassin's Creed 2 had two sequels (Brotherhood and Revelations) that continued it's story and featured Ezio, before going onto Assassin's Creed 3.
The only it was called DA2 was executive meddling from EA who wanted to market it as a direct sequel to Origins to capitalise on it's success. That begs the question of whether DA2 counts into the "five-game-plan" or not? or, for that matter, do we count Origins.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 23, 2019 14:32:52 GMT
I think my main Dragon Age wish would be for the next Dragon Age game to be the final game in the Dragon Age series and contain a conclusion to the Solas story arc, with the Inquisitor's story arc concluded as well (this could even be handled completely off screen if they need to for 'money' reasons, I just want a conclusion). Bioware said even before DA2 that they had plans for (at least) five games in the DA setting.
Inquisition was apparently meant to be the second "main" game in the series, with DA2 being more of a sidequel meant to set up it's events. Sort of similar to how the story of Assassin's Creed 2 had two sequels (Brotherhood and Revelations) that continued it's story and featured Ezio, before going onto Assassin's Creed 3.
The only it was called DA2 was executive meddling from EA who wanted to market it as a direct sequel to Origins to capitalise on it's success. That begs the question of whether DA2 counts into the "five-game-plan" or not? Yeah but at the rate they are going I will be 70 before they get to 5 games.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 23, 2019 14:46:03 GMT
I think my main Dragon Age wish would be for the next Dragon Age game to be the final game in the Dragon Age series and contain a conclusion to the Solas story arc, with the Inquisitor's story arc concluded as well (this could even be handled completely off screen if they need to for 'money' reasons, I just want a conclusion). Bioware said even before DA2 that they had plans for (at least) five games in the DA setting.
Inquisition was apparently meant to be the second "main" game in the series, with DA2 being more of a sidequel meant to set up it's events. Sort of similar to how the story of Assassin's Creed 2 had two sequels (Brotherhood and Revelations) that continued it's story and featured Ezio, before going onto Assassin's Creed 3.
The only it was called DA2 was executive meddling from EA who wanted to market it as a direct sequel to Origins to capitalise on it's success. That begs the question of whether DA2 counts into the "five-game-plan" or not? I hope everything counts so far, including DA2. If we get game four in 3 or 4 more years, then another 10 years for game 5 ... I mean shit that's already a long time.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 23, 2019 14:46:48 GMT
I think my main Dragon Age wish would be for the next Dragon Age game to be the final game in the Dragon Age series and contain a conclusion to the Solas story arc, with the Inquisitor's story arc concluded as well (this could even be handled completely off screen if they need to for 'money' reasons, I just want a conclusion). They could tackle another 'Age' after that or probably what would be better for Bioware is to just make Anthem for now.
Dragon Age and Mass Effect are my two favorite and most treasured gaming series of all time and at this point I just want Bioware to end them and move on. I have been thinking about this all morning and I while I am sure this won't happen, if I had to make a Dragon Age wish, this would be it. The part I bolded above is the exact opposite of what I would wish. I would like Bioware to move on from Anthem and return to making great single-player rpgs. Does that seem like reality to you?
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Post by copper on Jan 23, 2019 15:34:33 GMT
Bioware said even before DA2 that they had plans for (at least) five games in the DA setting.
Inquisition was apparently meant to be the second "main" game in the series, with DA2 being more of a sidequel meant to set up it's events. Sort of similar to how the story of Assassin's Creed 2 had two sequels (Brotherhood and Revelations) that continued it's story and featured Ezio, before going onto Assassin's Creed 3.
The only it was called DA2 was executive meddling from EA who wanted to market it as a direct sequel to Origins to capitalise on it's success. That begs the question of whether DA2 counts into the "five-game-plan" or not? I hope everything counts so far, including DA2. If we get game four in 3 or 4 more years, then another 10 years for game 5 ... I mean shit that's already a long time.
And with the exception of Origins the games are ending with the story feeling unresolved. If they're going to take years and years to develop, I'd rather each game be its own story within the world of Thedas.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 23, 2019 18:03:38 GMT
I hope everything counts so far, including DA2. If we get game four in 3 or 4 more years, then another 10 years for game 5 ... I mean shit that's already a long time.
And with the exception of Origins the games are ending with the story feeling unresolved. If they're going to take years and years to develop, I'd rather each game be its own story within the world of Thedas. YES! That would be an decent compromise ... Although first I would really like to see the conclusion to the Solas story arc.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 24, 2019 1:51:41 GMT
I think my main Dragon Age wish would be for the next Dragon Age game to be the final game in the Dragon Age series and contain a conclusion to the Solas story arc, with the Inquisitor's story arc concluded as well (this could even be handled completely off screen if they need to for 'money' reasons, I just want a conclusion). Bioware said even before DA2 that they had plans for (at least) five games in the DA setting.
Inquisition was apparently meant to be the second "main" game in the series, with DA2 being more of a sidequel meant to set up it's events. Sort of similar to how the story of Assassin's Creed 2 had two sequels (Brotherhood and Revelations) that continued it's story and featured Ezio, before going onto Assassin's Creed 3.
The only it was called DA2 was executive meddling from EA who wanted to market it as a direct sequel to Origins to capitalise on it's success. That begs the question of whether DA2 counts into the "five-game-plan" or not? Inquisition seems to have also been roughly half a story arc, according to Gaider. Presumably DA4 will be the other half. If DA2/DA Exodus was meant to not be a main entry, so to speak, that basically means we're still on story beat number two now, right?
Yeah but at the rate they are going I will be 70 before they get to 5 games. Then play when you're 70? I will be. lol And if not,t here's always let's plays (or some equivalent when we're 70.)
Seriously, though. Its not gonna take that long.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 24, 2019 1:54:27 GMT
Bioware said even before DA2 that they had plans for (at least) five games in the DA setting.
Inquisition was apparently meant to be the second "main" game in the series, with DA2 being more of a sidequel meant to set up it's events. Sort of similar to how the story of Assassin's Creed 2 had two sequels (Brotherhood and Revelations) that continued it's story and featured Ezio, before going onto Assassin's Creed 3.
The only it was called DA2 was executive meddling from EA who wanted to market it as a direct sequel to Origins to capitalise on it's success. That begs the question of whether DA2 counts into the "five-game-plan" or not? Inquisition seems to have also been roughly half a story arc, according to Gaider. Presumably DA4 will be the other half. If DA2/DA Exodus was meant to not be a main entry, so to speak, that basically means we're still on story beat number two now, right? Hopefully the second half of that story arc involves the same hero.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 24, 2019 7:44:22 GMT
Inquisition seems to have also been roughly half a story arc, according to Gaider. Presumably DA4 will be the other half. If DA2/DA Exodus was meant to not be a main entry, so to speak, that basically means we're still on story beat number two now, right? Hopefully the second half of that story arc involves the same hero. Similar to the Ezio trilogy from Assassin's Creed that I mentioned earlier, I wouldn't mind it if Bioware tweaked their rule about "a different protagonist for each game", to instead be "a different protagonist for each new storyline".
As in, if the main game warrants something like Awakening, Witch Hunt or Trespasser to either continue the story or tie up any loose plot-threads, why not perhaps turn them into full games, rather than DLC expansions, so that each DLC forms part of a (loosely) connected story arc carrying on from the main game?
The events of Awakening, Amgarrak and Witch Hunt could have easily been three main quests in a sequel to DAO, featuring either a new Warden-Commander or the returning Hero of Ferelden having to deal with the aftermath of the Blight.
Same with Jaws of Hakkon, Descent and Trespasser, that could have provided a connecting story arc of what the Inquisitor was doing in the years post-Inquisition and during the run up to the Exalted Council. If JOH and Descent games were made to be post-Inquisition, then because some of the companions did leave between Inquisition and Trespasser, we could have had some new companions (Avvar and Dwarves!) to fill their spots, before our OG team returns in Trespasser.
I'm not really certain how DA2's DLC could have been tied together, maybe as events that took place post-Gallows? Whether you went Mage or Templar could have some bearing on the events and what your hub location was, the Viscount's Keep if you went Templar and a run-down hideout if you went Mage.
A Viscount Hawke attends Duke Prosper's party as a guest, but secretly is working with Tallis in exchange for help learning the Duke's plans for Kirkwall. A Fugitive Hawke meanwhile poses as another noble to attend Prosper's party, working with Tallis in exchange for help with some forged papers and disrupting the Duke's plans for Kirkwall (it's still your home after all). The events of Legacy remain the same regardless of DA2's ending, as both Viscount/Fugitive Hawke seek to track down the Carta clan targetting them (and their family).
Obviously expanding and combining DLC into a fully-fledged game would be way more costly and time-consuming than releasing them as a standalone adventures. But it'd be one way they could bring back the same protagonist, continue their story and then wrap everything up?
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Post by Ieldra on Jan 24, 2019 10:18:00 GMT
Hopefully the second half of that story arc involves the same hero. Similar to the Ezio trilogy from Assassin's Creed that I mentioned earlier, I wouldn't mind it if Bioware tweaked their rule about "a different protagonist for each game", to instead be "a different protagonist for each new storyline".
As in, if the main game warrants something like Awakening, Witch Hunt or Trespasser to either continue the story or tie up any loose plot-threads, why not perhaps turn them into full games, rather than DLC expansions, so that each DLC forms part of a (loosely) connected story arc carrying on from the main game?
The events of Awakening, Amgarrak and Witch Hunt could have easily been three main quests in a sequel to DAO, featuring either a new Warden-Commander or the returning Hero of Ferelden having to deal with the aftermath of the Blight.
Same with Jaws of Hakkon, Descent and Trespasser, that could have provided a connecting story arc of what the Inquisitor was doing in the years post-Inquisition and during the run up to the Exalted Council. If JOH and Descent games were made to be post-Inquisition, then because some of the companions did leave between Inquisition and Trespasser, we could have had some new companions (Avvar and Dwarves!) to fill their spots, before our OG team returns in Trespasser.
I'm not really certain how DA2's DLC could have been tied together, maybe as events that took place post-Gallows? Whether you went Mage or Templar could have some bearing on the events and what your hub location was, the Viscount's Keep if you went Templar and a run-down hideout if you went Mage.
A Viscount Hawke attends Duke Prosper's party as a guest, but secretly is working with Tallis in exchange for help learning the Duke's plans for Kirkwall. A Fugitive Hawke meanwhile poses as another noble to attend Prosper's party, working with Tallis in exchange for help with some forged papers and disrupting the Duke's plans for Kirkwall (it's still your home after all). The events of Legacy remain the same regardless of DA2's ending, as both Viscount/Fugitive Hawke seek to track down the Carta clan targetting them (and their family).
Obviously expanding and combining DLC into a fully-fledged game would be way more costly and time-consuming than releasing them as a standalone adventures. But it'd be one way they could bring back the same protagonist, continue their story and then wrap everything up?
Given how much I resent the ending of Trespasser, they'd have to do something really unusual to make me want to play the Inquisitor again. The kind of unusual I very likely won't get from Patrick Weekes. Also, only if they shed the "Inquisitor" label. I never liked it.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 24, 2019 15:29:58 GMT
I am pretty sure we are getting a new protagonist.
There are so many large scale reasons why Bioware, just from a logistical standpoint, will want to have the game feature a new player character.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 24, 2019 16:02:13 GMT
I am pretty sure we are getting a new protagonist. There are so many large scale reasons why Bioware, just from a logistical standpoint, will want to have the game feature a new player character. I have yet to see any good ones that can’t be easily countered.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 24, 2019 16:06:10 GMT
I am pretty sure we are getting a new protagonist. There are so many large scale reasons why Bioware, just from a logistical standpoint, will want to have the game feature a new player character. I have yet to see any good ones that can’t be easily countered. Anyone can counter anything on the internet. Especially when your own self interest is involved.
The logistics of carrying over our Inquisitors from DA:I are prohibitive to doing so. I will be absolutely mind boggling surprised if we play as the Inquisitor again. There are so many variables to consider at this point. It's a dream.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 24, 2019 16:09:06 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the Inquisition, the Inquisitor, and most of the companions from DA:I are killed offscreen (EDIT: Or in hiding or something) and we never even meet them in game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 24, 2019 16:09:56 GMT
I have yet to see any good ones that can’t be easily countered. Anyone can counter anything on the internet. Especially when your own self interest is involved.
The logistics of carrying over our Inquisitors from DA:I are prohibitive to doing so. I will be absolutely mind boggling surprised if we play as the Inquisitor again. There are so many variables to consider at this point. It's a dream.
Not really. Most variables can be ignored since we are going to northern Thedas.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 24, 2019 16:11:18 GMT
Anyone can counter anything on the internet. Especially when your own self interest is involved.
The logistics of carrying over our Inquisitors from DA:I are prohibitive to doing so. I will be absolutely mind boggling surprised if we play as the Inquisitor again. There are so many variables to consider at this point. It's a dream.
Not really. Most variables can be ignored since we are going to northern Thedas. You can argue all you want. We are not playing the Inquisitor in the next game.
If we get to I won't be mad about it, I love my Inquisitors!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 24, 2019 16:12:34 GMT
Not really. Most variables can be ignored since we are going to northern Thedas. You can argue all you want. We are not playing the Inquisitor in the next game.
If we get to I won't be mad about it, I love my Inquisitors!
Then BioWare loses me as a fan and customer.
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Post by Gwydden on Jan 24, 2019 16:22:36 GMT
Then BioWare loses me as a fan and customer. And they lose me if the Inquisitor comes back. Quite the catch-22 they've got there.
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Post by copper on Jan 24, 2019 16:46:15 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the Inquisition, the Inquisitor, and most of the companions from DA:I are killed offscreen (EDIT: Or in hiding or something) and we never even meet them in game. I don't think they need to be killed or in hiding not to show up. Everyone with the exception of Dorian and Iron Bull I think stays in the south. There's no reason for them to go north unless the writers give them a personal one, since Trespasser emphasizes that they need new people to fight Solas. The Iron Bull can only be a cameo at most since he can die in Trespasser. That only leaves Dorian, who I'd be disappointed if we didn't see at least as a prominent npc in Tevinter. Dorian and the Inquisitor also have the mirror telephone thing to communicate, so assuming we have a new protagonist he can relay any news or messages from the inquisitor to us without them having to make a physical appearance. I wouldn't be surprised if Dorian paraphrases or exaggerates things the Inquisitor supposedly tells him, so we wouldn't need to worry about the inquisitor's personality being ruined.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 24, 2019 20:10:42 GMT
Then BioWare loses me as a fan and customer. And they lose me if the Inquisitor comes back. Quite the catch-22 they've got there. Dual protagonists. Tada!
Not really. Most variables can be ignored since we are going to northern Thedas. You can argue all you want. We are not playing the Inquisitor in the next game.
If we get to I won't be mad about it, I love my Inquisitors!
I appreciate that you don't think its gonna happen. However, stating it with such unequivocal certainty isn't warranted quite yet. Or at all. Let us dream.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 24, 2019 20:16:30 GMT
And they lose me if the Inquisitor comes back. Quite the catch-22 they've got there. Dual protagonists. Tada!
You can argue all you want. We are not playing the Inquisitor in the next game.
If we get to I won't be mad about it, I love my Inquisitors!
I appreciate that you don't think its gonna happen. However, stating it with such unequivocal certainty isn't warranted quite yet. Or at all. Let us dream. id be shocked myself.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Jan 24, 2019 20:17:31 GMT
Dual protagonists. Tada!
I appreciate that you don't think its gonna happen. However, stating it with such unequivocal certainty isn't warranted quite yet. Or at all. Let us dream. id be shocked myself. Shocked by which? Dual protagonists or not playing the (former) Inquisitor?
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 24, 2019 20:43:47 GMT
Shocked by which? Dual protagonists or not playing the (former) Inquisitor? Never say never, but every time BW has spoken up about this, they've reiterated their new protag for every game stance. And that's my default assumption for DA4 (w/ Inky as an NPC).
It's not to say they couldn't change their mind, but as yet there's been no hint of that.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 24, 2019 20:47:16 GMT
Shocked by which? Dual protagonists or not playing the (former) Inquisitor? the latter.
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