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Post by vertigomez on Feb 10, 2018 3:29:16 GMT
Especially since, if she's with male Hawke, she worries about how much her people will hate her for hooking up with a human man and potentially having human kids. That said, while the comment was nasty I don't believe it came from a place of genuine prejudice against half-elves. She was hurt and lashing out. Is this yet another content bug in my Dragon Age games, because I never encountered that conversation when I romanced Merrill . Not 100% sure but I think this only comes up in a friendmance with male Hawke. Friendmance with female Hawke has her gushing about how beautiful and clever Hawke is, friendmance with male Hawke has her swooning about how strong he is and fretting about babies, and a rivalmance with either just has the dramatic angry stuff. Here's the conversation if you're curious: edit: oops, I guess she doesn't explicitly say anything about kids, but I figured it was implied
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Post by phoray on Feb 10, 2018 6:14:21 GMT
edit: oops, I guess she doesn't explicitly say anything about kids, but I figured it was implied super implied to me. she just didn't want to explicitly mention babies because it'd mean she was talking about sex and that's just too hardcore for her wee brain just then.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 10, 2018 9:10:47 GMT
I wish they hired Jesper Kyd to do the score for the game. The man is gifted.
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Post by dark187 on Feb 10, 2018 14:08:46 GMT
- Alternate weapon for mages More weapon types (especially for archers and mages who are basically limited to one each) as well as much more flexible equipment requirements are something I'm a strong advocate for Oh yeah definitely. I wanted to suggest getting rid of class based weapon restrictions to something more akin to Origins because a staff wielding rogue appeals to me. Of course if they were to do that there would have to be restrictions like non-magic users can't shoot staff shots from range or something and each class should have passives that encourage the use of certain weapon types over others ie a mage shouldn't have the finesse to properly utilise dw daggers and so don't get the crit chance/damage rogues do. However if they decide to keep class based weapon restrictions I would suggest maybe giving mages wands which would do more damage at range but be next to useless in melee or do less damage but reduced mana requirement?
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 10, 2018 23:07:09 GMT
I kind of liked the quests for unlocking specializations, but I would prefer if they were less fetch quest-y, and if the trainers were either party members, or previous party members.
I was always hoping for a DLC pack for Inquisition that added a new specialization for each class, were Varric called in some old friends, and the trainers were Fenris (Spirit Warrior), Isabella (Dualist), and Merrill (Bloodmage).
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2018 6:03:04 GMT
Mass Effect: Emails LiS: text messaging and emails. FF15: A journal mailed to and fro by dog that you could actually choose the dialogue that went in it as a method of talking to your beloved (I don't know why they didn't just use their cellphones. Or why they were using a dog.)
Point is, I'd like more messengers and letters from people we actually give a shit about in Dragon Age. The Blackwall Messenger is one instance but we never wrote a single letter to family, or received one. All the text budget for the War Table? let's put it here.
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Post by Tittus on Feb 11, 2018 15:15:32 GMT
Replaying MEA, and one thing I really like is how companions' quests span over the entire game. Sure there are similiar quests in DAI, but in MEA they're really steps towards one big goal, with discussions each time, while in DAI they appear to be just a way go get approval.
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Post by Julale on Feb 11, 2018 17:38:07 GMT
What I would love to see is a photo mode! 📸 its a pleasure of mine taking beautiful photos of my character and the world. To pause in cutscenes would be a nice feature, too.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 11, 2018 17:59:14 GMT
If they bring back the Black Emporium, use the original voice for the proprietor. He sounded AWFUL in Dragon Age Inquisition.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 18:41:00 GMT
If they bring back the Black Emporium, use the original voice for the proprietor. He sounded AWFUL in Dragon Age Inquisition. That was the same guy, Nicholas Boulton who voiced M!Hawke: www.imdb.com/name/nm0099610/. He does Xenon in both games.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 11, 2018 19:27:45 GMT
It's the same voice actor. Its not the same voice. In Dragon Age 2, xenon has a creepy, stilted way of talking, punctuated with random bouts of rage. In Inquisition he just sort of screams. Its simply terrible in comparison.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 19:40:42 GMT
It's the same voice actor. Its not the same voice. In Dragon Age 2, xenon has a creepy, stilted way of talking, punctuated with random bouts of rage. In Inquisition he just sort of screams. Its simply terrible in comparison. He sounds the same to me, just more booming like the sound designer amped it up to make it seem like Xenon was magically projecting his voice since he couldn't move. To each their own, I guess.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Feb 11, 2018 19:45:12 GMT
He sounds the same to me, just more booming like the sound designer amped it up to make it seem like Xenon was magically projecting his voice since he couldn't move. To each their own, I guess. The fact that you say they sound the same makes me think you either haven't heard them side by side in a very long time, or you need to get your hearing checked. They could not sound more different.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 19:52:02 GMT
He sounds the same to me, just more booming like the sound designer amped it up to make it seem like Xenon was magically projecting his voice since he couldn't move. To each their own, I guess. The fact that you say they sound the same makes me think you either haven't heard them side by side in a very long time, or you need to get your hearing checked. They could not sound more different. Lol, it's true, I've only played DA2 once because I didn't care for it, so I guess you could be right. The voice actor sounded great to me in DA:I though, so I don't have any complaints. I hope he plays the role similarly in DA4 and Chauncy comes back.
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Post by melbella on Feb 11, 2018 20:39:03 GMT
Why do people insist that unless other people hear things the same way they do, they either have bad hearing or are somehow incompetent?
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2018 21:56:17 GMT
Why do people insist that unless other people hear things the same way they do, they either have bad hearing or are somehow incompetent? ya, I didn't approve of the mild insult either, but @dawnstone took it in stride as more observation than insult. Either game, his ranting was mostly something to drown out. it's almost like he keeps a shop so he can force people to visit him.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 11, 2018 22:18:11 GMT
I would like for there to be a romance that is explicitly non-sexual. Dragon Age hasn’t had a romance like that(don’t count Sebastian since half that is making fun of the concept).
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Post by phoray on Feb 11, 2018 22:30:14 GMT
I would like for there to be a romance that is explicitly non-sexual. Dragon Age hasn’t had a romance like that(don’t count Sebastian since half that is making fun of the concept). Oh, Josephine doesn't count anymore?
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 11, 2018 22:33:34 GMT
I would like for there to be a romance that is explicitly non-sexual. Dragon Age hasn’t had a romance like that(don’t count Sebastian since half that is making fun of the concept). Oh, Josephine doesn't count anymore? Josephine isn't explicitly one or the other.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 11, 2018 22:37:45 GMT
I would like for there to be a romance that is explicitly non-sexual. Dragon Age hasn’t had a romance like that(don’t count Sebastian since half that is making fun of the concept). Oh, Josephine doesn't count anymore? As I said, I want one that is explicitly that. Josephine is the closest with her writer even supporting seeing her as ace/Demi but her romance is ambiguous. It’s done very well to be ambiguous, but it still isn’t explicitly non sexual.
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Post by Walter Black on Feb 11, 2018 23:23:24 GMT
Oh, Josephine doesn't count anymore? As I said, I want one that is explicitly that. Josephine is the closest with her writer even supporting seeing her as ace/Demi but her romance is ambiguous. It’s done very well to be ambiguous, but it still isn’t explicitly non sexual. How exactly would a non sexual romance be different from a friendship arc? It has to be more than just "we spend the most time together and don't have sex", because I know people whose most important relationships are non familiar and platonic, but still have sexual feelings for other people. I'm not trying to be judgmental or a killjoy, I'm genuinely curious how such an ace/demi relationship would contrast friendship paths, narratively speaking.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 12, 2018 0:57:15 GMT
As I said, I want one that is explicitly that. Josephine is the closest with her writer even supporting seeing her as ace/Demi but her romance is ambiguous. It’s done very well to be ambiguous, but it still isn’t explicitly non sexual. How exactly would a non sexual romance be different from a friendship arc? It has to be more than just "we spend the most time together and don't have sex", because I know people whose most important relationships are non familiar and platonic, but still have sexual feelings for other people. I'm not trying to be judgmental or a killjoy, I'm genuinely curious how such an ace/demi relationship would contrast friendship paths, narratively speaking. It would be different because the two characters would still have feelings for each other that goes beyond friendship and into romantic love but for whatever reason doesn't involve sex. I'll use a couple romances Bioware themselves have already done that captures this. First I'll use Bastila as an example since her romance is a prime example of a non-sexual one since that's exactly what it is. She and Revan clearly have romantic feelings for each other, but because of the Jedi Code they do not act on those feelings(at least in KOTOR). Then some of the ambiguous ones show how you can tell it is beyond friendship and is romantic, the prime example being Josephine since there isn't a single sexual reference in her romance(not counting the one the player can choose) and yet they are clearly head over heels in love with each other. Mass Effect also has a couple examples, though those aren't done as well as the two I mentioned above.
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Post by copper on Feb 12, 2018 1:03:58 GMT
As I said, I want one that is explicitly that. Josephine is the closest with her writer even supporting seeing her as ace/Demi but her romance is ambiguous. It’s done very well to be ambiguous, but it still isn’t explicitly non sexual. How exactly would a non sexual romance be different from a friendship arc? It has to be more than just "we spend the most time together and don't have sex", because I know people whose most important relationships are non familiar and platonic, but still have sexual feelings for other people. I'm not trying to be judgmental or a killjoy, I'm genuinely curious how such an ace/demi relationship would contrast friendship paths, narratively speaking. I think Josephine's romance would work for this if somewhere along the romance path she explicitly says they aren't having sex. Just cuz they're not having sex doesn't mean they aren't kissing or cuddling. Not all romantic relationships in real life are sexual for a variety of reasons. Sebastian was celibate; I don't think his romance emphasized that him and Hawke were actually together that well though so his isn't a great example.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 12, 2018 1:08:48 GMT
How exactly would a non sexual romance be different from a friendship arc? It has to be more than just "we spend the most time together and don't have sex", because I know people whose most important relationships are non familiar and platonic, but still have sexual feelings for other people. I'm not trying to be judgmental or a killjoy, I'm genuinely curious how such an ace/demi relationship would contrast friendship paths, narratively speaking. I think Josephine's romance would work for this if somewhere along the romance path she explicitly says they aren't having sex. Just cuz they're not having sex doesn't mean they aren't kissing or cuddling. Not all romantic relationships in real life are sexual for a variety of reasons. Sebastian was celibate; I don't think his romance emphasized that him and Hawke were actually together that well though so his isn't a great example. Yeah, Sebastian's was more a mockery of that kind of relationship than an exploration of it, between female Hawke lusting after him hard trying to get them to have sex and half the companions mocking or questioning the relationship. With Dragon Age, Josephine's is the closest since as you said all it needed was an explicit comment of they aren't having sex.
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Post by Walter Black on Feb 12, 2018 2:10:20 GMT
How exactly would a non sexual romance be different from a friendship arc? It has to be more than just "we spend the most time together and don't have sex", because I know people whose most important relationships are non familiar and platonic, but still have sexual feelings for other people. I'm not trying to be judgmental or a killjoy, I'm genuinely curious how such an ace/demi relationship would contrast friendship paths, narratively speaking. It would be different because the two characters would still have feelings for each other that goes beyond friendship and into romantic love but for whatever reason doesn't involve sex. I'll use a couple romances Bioware themselves have already done that captures this. First I'll use Bastila as an example since her romance is a prime example of a non-sexual one since that's exactly what it is
Bastila and Revan's relationship in KOTOR was sexual for the tone of classic Star Wars, and George Lucas himself said that in SW "a kissing scene is a sex scene". Though it did strike me odd as to why Bioware didn't film Revan and Bastila's kissing, did they not like the animation?
Suppressing one's sexual desires through willpower isn't the same thing as not even having them.
I've done Josephine's romance, and while I never saw anything to indicate she and the inquisitor were ever physically intimate, I also never encountered anything saying they never were. That's the problem with ambiguity, it can go both ways. Myself, I would have actually preferred if Josephine flat out stated she was asexual/demisexual/wanted to wait until marriage. It would have affirmed the character's beliefs and agency, and given players a new kind romance. But since it's ambiguous, I don't count her. Also, like I said earlier I've known people who were good friends that hugged and cuddled and held hands for fun and comfort, but still had sexual desires for other people.
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