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Post by river82 on Mar 11, 2019 20:25:25 GMT
They'll stop playing the game they already paid for, thus easing server loads (and therefore costs on EA)? Oh, NO! ... What? Anyway the co-ordinated blackout won't work. Most players won't even visit the reddit page.
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Post by Lazarillo on Mar 11, 2019 21:02:17 GMT
My point is that "boycotting" playing a game they've already paid for in full...doesn't really mean much. 'pologies if that was unclear. Sarcasm in text, an' all that.
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Post by OdanUrr on Mar 11, 2019 21:05:28 GMT
My point is that "boycotting" playing a game they've already paid for in full...doesn't really mean much. It does when it's a live services game that is intended to be monetized beyond its initial launch.
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Post by akots on Mar 11, 2019 21:19:18 GMT
99.9% of google results is just the same rehashed content spread to different sites, it's no metric that allows you to judge anything (apart from general popularity of a certain subject, and even that is highly debateable). Well, it might be not that simple. For example, based on what I have been involved with at some point, there is such a thing as google trends. Basically, what it does is generating a lot of data on geographical and chronological patterns of keywords. Sounds quite simple but may have a lot of uses. For example, some scientists tried to use the Trends to monitor various diseases with regard to their frequency and geographical distribution to pinpoint "hidden" epidemics and occurrence of risk factors for common and rare diseases. Serious people have investigated the utility of this thing by comparing Trends predictions with actual epidemiological "hard" data and in some cases, there is very strong indication that G-Trends actually work very well. In other cases, it does not work well for some reason. It is in part coincidental. For example, G-Trends gives very good results for epidemiology of mushroom poisoning. Since mushroom gathering season has a good media coverage, it works very reliably. The more mushrooms people gather, the more they get poisoned. So, there is that. It does not work with less popular diseases. For those who might be interested in this, there is a nice paper with graphs explaining how it works. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2210600617301090?via%3DihubPresumably, it is indicative of something although that something might be not a universal parameters but rather can be judged on a case by case basis.
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Post by river82 on Mar 11, 2019 21:24:53 GMT
My point is that "boycotting" playing a game they've already paid for in full...doesn't really mean much. 'pologies if that was unclear. Sarcasm in text, an' all that. You would be right if you were talking about a single person offline game and not one designed to monopolise player's time, push EA's platform, and provide continuous monetisation.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 11, 2019 21:35:15 GMT
Eh, I bore easily and wanna get some loot. So I’m going to be one of those filthy casual console plebs that keeps playing during the week.
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Post by 10k on Mar 11, 2019 23:48:46 GMT
They'll stop playing the game they already paid for, thus easing server loads (and therefore costs on EA)? Oh, NO! Exactly, I think these people are idiots. If they wanted to boycott a game, they shouldn't have bought it in the first place. I doubt this boycott will affect anything. Hell, I doubt any of them will actually boycott lol.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 11, 2019 23:56:58 GMT
People are trying to coordinate a blackout on reddit from Monday to Friday. Not sure how effective it'll be since we don't know player numbers to begin with, but more power to them. It currently has over 10k upvotes. Protest to revert Loot drop changes.
That, per se, is telling.... regardless of what the polyannas keep saying.
Many of us, during Anthem's game development, mentioned that players would go though content like shit through a goose. And, believe me when I say that WD40 doesn't come even close. My experience, when my car was properly baptized by a flock of them, proved it...
Bio ought to stop worrying about giving away too many value loot and start given the community some rare, legendary and epic gear during a random hour/day. ... until they fix this mess. Why, even announce a 15 min "giveaway" to players currently playing. Unfortunately, load screens may get in the way.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 12, 2019 0:07:01 GMT
They'll stop playing the game they already paid for, thus easing server loads (and therefore costs on EA)? Oh, NO! Exactly, I think these people are idiots. If they wanted to boycott a game, they shouldn't have bought it in the first place. I doubt this boycott will affect anything. Hell, I doubt any of them will actually boycott lol. Especially if it's a few thousand players out of millions
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 12, 2019 1:40:40 GMT
People are trying to coordinate a blackout on reddit from Monday to Friday. Not sure how effective it'll be since we don't know player numbers to begin with, but more power to them. It currently has over 10k upvotes. Protest to revert Loot drop changes.
That, per se, is telling.... regardless of what the polyannas keep saying.
Many of us, during Anthem's game development, mentioned that players would go though content like shit through a goose. And, believe me when I say that WD40 doesn't come even close. My experience, when my car was properly baptized by a flock of them, proved it...
Bio ought to stop worrying about giving away too many value loot and start given the community some rare, legendary and epic gear during a random hour/day. ... until they fix this mess. Why, even announce a 15 min "giveaway" to players currently playing. Unfortunately, load screens may get in the way.
But it's not even a problem of content, though Anthem is lacking in both content quality and quantity. It's about the loot. Take Diablo 2 for example, even pre-LoD expansion the "content" of the game was playing through the campaign either in full or in parts, which at Normal difficulty would take you 20-30 hours maybe. Yet people did it over and over and over again, because the loot was right. And then the LoD expansion hit and created a gold standard at the time for looter itemization, which made a game where people continued to play the same fucking quests over and over and over again for ten goddamn years. Anthem's itemization is such dogshit that people are essentially tired of it after a few weeks. And while yes, the main player complaint right now is quantity of useful loot, the more astute observers ( cough cough Icalleditduringthefirstweek cough cough) have noted that even if the quantity went back to the "loot rain" model, it still doesn't have the core design needed for longevity.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 12, 2019 3:14:57 GMT
Exactly, I think these people are idiots. If they wanted to boycott a game, they shouldn't have bought it in the first place. I doubt this boycott will affect anything. Hell, I doubt any of them will actually boycott lol. Especially if it's a few thousand players out of millions I sincerely doubt the playerbase is still millions at this point.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 12, 2019 3:18:30 GMT
That, per se, is telling.... regardless of what the polyannas keep saying.
Many of us, during Anthem's game development, mentioned that players would go though content like shit through a goose. And, believe me when I say that WD40 doesn't come even close. My experience, when my car was properly baptized by a flock of them, proved it...
Bio ought to stop worrying about giving away too many value loot and start given the community some rare, legendary and epic gear during a random hour/day. ... until they fix this mess. Why, even announce a 15 min "giveaway" to players currently playing. Unfortunately, load screens may get in the way.
But it's not even a problem of content, though Anthem is lacking in both content quality and quantity. It's about the loot. Take Diablo 2 for example, even pre-LoD expansion the "content" of the game was playing through the campaign either in full or in parts, which at Normal difficulty would take you 20-30 hours maybe. Yet people did it over and over and over again, because the loot was right. And then the LoD expansion hit and created a gold standard at the time for looter itemization, which made a game where people continued to play the same fucking quests over and over and over again for ten goddamn years. Anthem's itemization is such dogshit that people are essentially tired of it after a few weeks. And while yes, the main player complaint right now is quantity of useful loot, the more astute observers ( cough cough Icalleditduringthefirstweek cough cough) have noted that even if the quantity went back to the "loot rain" model, it still doesn't have the core design needed for longevity. To be fair, I think most do recognize that turning the faucet up on loot drops isn't going to come close to solving the issue. It's just something they can do easily (I mean shit, they did it by accident twice), might keep the population from taking a nose dive within a few days, and is something they should do anyway in addition to other fixes.
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Post by Sylvae on Mar 12, 2019 9:19:05 GMT
TBH, as much as I'm enjoying playing Anthem, I'm getting really tired of all of these so-called mistakes and overlooked and missed stuff which are being called bugs or exploits, even though I love and believe BioWare, this is getting over the edge, too many omissions for a product which is supposed to be a triple A...
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Post by jackdaniel on Mar 12, 2019 11:25:20 GMT
I can almost guarantee you that the "only cosmetic" monetization promise is going to be broken, and they are going to monetize high end gears somehow. That would explain why they do the things they do.
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Post by cankiie on Mar 12, 2019 12:20:35 GMT
I can almost guarantee you that the "only cosmetic" monetization promise is going to be broken, and they are going to monetize high end gears somehow. That would explain why they do the things they do. I would not be surprised.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 12, 2019 12:30:13 GMT
This is relevant
I have said identical things before and, funny that, was labeled a troll and a negative toxic influence by certain people around here
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Mar 12, 2019 12:35:13 GMT
Especially if it's a few thousand players out of millions I sincerely doubt the playerbase is still millions at this point. True. I mean it's at the bottom of popularity with games like FO 76 and Battlefield V! TRIGGER WARNING!
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 12, 2019 12:50:11 GMT
This is relevant I have said identical things before and, funny that, was labeled a troll and a negative toxic influence by certain people around here Prepare for a lot more of those previously stalwart Anthem/Bioware defenders to sheepishly admit maybe there are some critical flaws in the game now that even the casualest of casuals are finally reaching full Masterwork javelins. Of course the percentage of them who admit to being wrong before and offer anything in the way of a mea culpa for their misplaced faith in the game and Bioware is infinitesimal.
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Post by jclosed on Mar 12, 2019 12:58:37 GMT
I can almost guarantee you that the "only cosmetic" monetization promise is going to be broken, and they are going to monetize high end gears somehow. That would explain why they do the things they do. I would not be surprised. Hmmm.... That would explain why they keep loot drop as low-value as possible, and where panicking when a bug increased the value of the loot. The whole purpose of keeping that stuff as low value as possible is to increase grinding. When people cannot bear that grinding any longer, they will "open the shop" and sell "shortcuts" for that grinding in real world money. Maybe in the form of time-limited "high-loot-drop-artifacts" that "wear out" after that limited time? Oh wait! Let not give them any ideas hm?
Anyway - All this stuff made me think about installing a loot-shooter again. It's been a long time I have played that. Hm? Anthem? Nah, don't think so - It's Borderlands of course....
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 12, 2019 13:04:58 GMT
This is relevant I have said identical things before and, funny that, was labeled a troll and a negative toxic influence by certain people around here Prepare for a lot more of those previously stalwart Anthem/Bioware defenders to sheepishly admit maybe there are some critical flaws in the game now that even the casualest of casuals are finally reaching full Masterwork javelins. Of course the percentage of them who admit to being wrong before and offer anything in the way of a mea culpa for their misplaced faith in the game and Bioware is infinitesimal. oh of course Im just waiting for the quiet execution of Anthem to say "I told you so" and hopefully the message will be properly sent at that point. Whether they learned anything or not will be seen in DA4 and the next Mass Effect. Otherwise, well, let's hope for outer worlds and cyberpunk
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 12, 2019 13:10:32 GMT
I'm beginning to wonder whether the lack of a stats page in Anthem is really just a stupid oversight, or whether it was intentionally left out because it's near impossible to extract meaningful stats from its broken internal mechanics.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 12, 2019 13:16:54 GMT
I'm beginning to wonder whether the lack of a stats page in Anthem is really just a stupid oversight, or whether it was intentionally left out because it's near impossible to extract meaningful stats from its broken internal mechanics. possible I mean did they not do similar shit with the mods in Andromeda where the maluses were hidden from the public
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Post by acehilator on Mar 12, 2019 13:25:29 GMT
There is not a single part of the scaling system that isn't broken. At this point it's amazing just how much people can f*** up. removing the support item increases damage(also other non-MWs/Leg you are wearing, which is ridiculous)
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