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Post by OdanUrr on Mar 11, 2019 1:04:30 GMT
Most. Incompetent. Assholes. Ever. They seem determined to piss off their playerbase.
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 11, 2019 1:22:12 GMT
Why are they so afraid on touching the loot? it's a loot based game, if loot sucks then people don't want to play. I just don't get this mentality of being afraid to do changes. Then that tweet saying they're not okay with the loot currently, what's that suppose to even mean? if you were not okay then why the fuck release the game in that state!? Jesus! This mindset of "we are going to release the game and fix things on the road" instead of just get everything done and THEN release the game. I'm so sick of this industry's bullshit.
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Post by river82 on Mar 11, 2019 1:31:57 GMT
This mindset of "we are going to release the game and fix things on the road" instead of just get everything done and THEN release the game. I'm so sick of this industry's bullshit. Pretty much this. I have no doubt Anthem will be a good game eventually, but it's tiring. It's only the Western industry as well, Asian games don't have this (although they do like pay to win stuff that isn't tolerated in the West. Weird how different parts of the world tolerate different things xD )
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 11, 2019 2:28:24 GMT
Just saying the new patch made things worse it not telling us anything. Could you explain? Go on reddit and see for yourself the new patch has fixed some issues yes,but some other issues haven't been fixed and they only made them worse,and some other people are apparently getting more crashes because of this new patch There's also the nerfs/changes that weren't in the patch notes for some reasons. And then there's the loot complain,i could go on and on this is just ridiculous. Even the SWTOR team isn't as incompetent as these guys are seriously. You haven't experienced any of these bugs yourself or can recite any that you've heard off the top of your head?
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 11, 2019 3:04:53 GMT
Just saying the new patch made things worse it not telling us anything. Could you explain? Go on reddit and see for yourself the new patch has fixed some issues yes,but some other issues haven't been fixed and they only made them worse,and some other people are apparently getting more crashes because of this new patch There's also the nerfs/changes that weren't in the patch notes for some reasons. And then there's the loot complain,i could go on and on this is just ridiculous. Even the SWTOR team isn't as incompetent as these guys are seriously. Sorry but YOU were asked to explain and all you can say is go on reddit? and this and that that others have complained about BUT you have yet to explain yourself
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Post by Obadiah on Mar 11, 2019 4:01:30 GMT
Well, I got a good taste of why reviewers think this game is broken.
I was done with Contracts, so I decided to try some Quickplays today. I attempted 3 of them, but each had either no quest or a missing waypoint, with other players flying around trying the figure out what to do next. This is where the load screens became an issue. The load screens, though long, aren't usually a problem, UNITL you start having to sit through 10 of them in an hour while accomplishing pretty much nothing. There was a Load screen to start the mission, a load screen when a tether pulled me back to the start area with nothing to do, a load screen to end the mission and start the rewards screen, and then a load screen to take me back to Fort Tarsis.
I finally gave up on Quickplay, and then I tried doing the Scar Temple Stronghold, which I'd never done before. TWICE I got locked out of the 2nd encounter and had to exit and try again. I thought maybe reviewers were messing about or something when complaining about getting locked out behind the barriers in missions, but, twice I was right behind the guy in front of me when I got locked out of the encounter by that annoying opaque barrier. There was no way to suicide to maybe spawn into the next encounter, and no tether ever activated to pull me forward. Again, more load screens to exit and get back to Tarsis and try again.
On the third try I finally succeeded in completing the Scar Temple stronghold, so yay, but that was frustrating. If this is the kind of experience other players are having with their 2 hour play sessions, then I can see why they think Anthem is broken.
P.S. Why the hell are the relic turbine propellers in the Scar Temple called "pylons"?
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Post by Polka Dot on Mar 11, 2019 4:20:00 GMT
Go on reddit and see for yourself the new patch has fixed some issues yes,but some other issues haven't been fixed and they only made them worse,and some other people are apparently getting more crashes because of this new patch There's also the nerfs/changes that weren't in the patch notes for some reasons. And then there's the loot complain,i could go on and on this is just ridiculous. Even the SWTOR team isn't as incompetent as these guys are seriously. Sorry but YOU were asked to explain and all you can say is go on reddit? and this and that that others have complained about BUT you have yet to explain yourself Sorry, but OP isn't required to explain anything to you - or anyone else. Hype thread is that way --------------------------------------------------------------> This is the Skepticism Thread.
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Post by Foelhe on Mar 11, 2019 4:22:06 GMT
Go on reddit and see for yourself the new patch has fixed some issues yes,but some other issues haven't been fixed and they only made them worse,and some other people are apparently getting more crashes because of this new patch There's also the nerfs/changes that weren't in the patch notes for some reasons. And then there's the loot complain,i could go on and on this is just ridiculous. Even the SWTOR team isn't as incompetent as these guys are seriously. You haven't experienced any of these bugs yourself or can recite any that you've heard off the top of your head? It's cute that you think you're a professor handing out assignments here.
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Post by Obadiah on Mar 11, 2019 4:41:08 GMT
Most. Incompetent. Assholes. Ever. They seem determined to piss off their playerbase. I don't know how much of a problem this really is since I just checked my crafting tab, and with even my meager play experience, I can craft 2 masterwork weapons already.
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Post by river82 on Mar 11, 2019 4:48:00 GMT
They seem determined to piss off their playerbase. I don't know how much of a problem this really is since I just checked my crafting tab, and with even my meager play experience, I can craft 2 masterwork weapons already. A pretty big one, it seems EDIT: One of the former Diablo 3 developers posted publicly tips about fixing the game. The importance of this shouldn't be looked over, developers rarely call other developers out publicly and those tips could have easily been delivered privately. During his post he said "players goal is to find better items and continue advancing through the content" which hints at the heart of the current issue and why everyone is up in arms
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Post by majesticjazz on Mar 11, 2019 5:11:15 GMT
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Post by clips7 on Mar 11, 2019 5:36:59 GMT
This vid i thought gave a pretty balanced look at the recent patch update...it touched upon what players was experiencing and touched on the loot aspects.... ^^^^This one was more specific about the loot drops.....and looking at Obadiah post, looks like there are still some serious loading/missions issues Bioware still needs to sort out...it kinda rings true of stories of how while Bioware patches fixes and improves some things, other things become broken. I want to be fair and not just rag on Bioware just because. I took some coding classes before and i was reminded of why i never wanted to become a full time programmer.....code test/code/test...repeat. There's a reason why those guys go bald early and have hairstyles like Bozo the clown.... I think the scenario for Bioware is "whew ok...we fixed this...launch it....wtf?...now why is THAT happening?"....but with the loot thing? If you are getting feedback that players are happy with how the loot aspect was before AND it wasn't affecting the game to the point to where players was getting high end loot too fast, then they should have left it alone. Now it very well could be that Bioware is saving face and maybe by flipping that switch or changing code again that it will cause something else to happen within the game. I'm just really trying to give these guys the benefit of the doubt as any one line of code can cause multiple issues for lines of code elsewhere and trying to pinpoint those issues in a high pressured environment that Bioware is under can be a tall order..... Again tho, if the loot thing is an easy fix, Bioware should correct that and keep fans happy while they correct the other issues this game has.
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Post by bakgrind on Mar 11, 2019 5:54:24 GMT
Just saying the new patch made things worse it not telling us anything. Could you explain? Go on reddit and see for yourself the new patch has fixed some issues yes,but some other issues haven't been fixed and they only made them worse,and some other people are apparently getting more crashes because of this new patch There's also the nerfs/changes that weren't in the patch notes for some reasons. And then there's the loot complain,i could go on and on this is just ridiculous. Even the SWTOR team isn't as incompetent as these guys are seriously. And here I was thinking that no one could possibly top the SWTOR team in that department. But, it makes a bit of sense because Ben Irving was over that as well at one time. Maybe it's just a Bioware Austin culture thing?
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Mar 11, 2019 8:08:17 GMT
I miss the good ol' days when we had such great writing and options
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Mar 11, 2019 8:11:18 GMT
(There's a reason why people are starting to call it Anthem 76.) I was going to ask you, really? Then I googled "Anthem 76". Wew. Lad. BioWare is finished.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 11, 2019 11:28:10 GMT
You haven't experienced any of these bugs yourself or can recite any that you've heard off the top of your head? It's cute that you think you're a professor handing out assignments here. More interesting to talk to individual experiences over parroting of consensus. After all, big difference between a compilations of all bugs experienced across entire internet and bugs experienced by a lone individual. ie. What do you think would happen if I google Witcher III bugs and glitches? About 2,380,000 results (0.38 seconds) Now there's no point to comparing this to Anthem given how new it is, but googling same thing results in about 851,000 results (0.43 seconds) Skyrim is an interesting one. About 9,220,000 results (0.43 seconds) Destiny. About 14,800,000 results (0.48 seconds) Destiny 2. About 39,000,000 results (0.45 seconds) Warframe. About 3,650,000 results (0.41 seconds) Red Dead Redemption. About 18,000,000 results (0.49 seconds) Super Mario Bros. 3. About 21,800,000 results (0.56 seconds) Action 52. About 149,000,000 results (0.70 seconds)
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Post by river82 on Mar 11, 2019 11:37:06 GMT
It's cute that you think you're a professor handing out assignments here. More interesting to talk to individual experiences over parroting of consensus. After all, big difference between a compilations of all bugs experienced across entire internet and bugs experienced by a lone individual. ie. What do you think would happen if I google Witcher III bugs and glitches? About 2,380,000 results (0.38 seconds) Now there's no point to comparing this to Anthem given how new it is, but googling same thing results in about 851,000 results (0.43 seconds) Skyrim is an interesting one. About 9,220,000 results (0.43 seconds) Destiny. About 14,800,000 results (0.48 seconds) Destiny 2. About 39,000,000 results (0.45 seconds) Warframe. About 3,650,000 results (0.41 seconds) Red Dead Redemption. About 18,000,000 results (0.49 seconds) Super Mario Bros. 3. About 21,800,000 results (0.56 seconds) Action 52. About 149,000,000 results (0.70 seconds) Someone else will be able to explain why, I really don't know, but google search results differ dramatically from person to person. For example if I type Anthem bugs and glitches I get approx. 22,000,000 results and Witcher 3 only 4,000,000 results. Destiny 2 nets me 46 million. It depends on a whole host of things.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 11, 2019 13:43:28 GMT
This weekend's loot fiasco seems like the turning point where the wheels have fallen off. It reminds me a lot of Andromeda patch 1.09 (where the loot pool was severely diluted with additional weapon and character ranks with no real content) in that it seems to be the point where many finally realize that Bioware is not likely to make any significant forward momentum.
For those of you joining the masses flocking to The Division 2 or whatever, it's been real. See you for DA4, hopefully.
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Post by akots on Mar 11, 2019 13:51:26 GMT
It's cute that you think you're a professor handing out assignments here. More interesting to talk to individual experiences over parroting of consensus. After all, big difference between a compilations of all bugs experienced across entire internet and bugs experienced by a lone individual. ie. What do you think would happen if I google Witcher III bugs and glitches? About 2,380,000 results (0.38 seconds) Now there's no point to comparing this to Anthem given how new it is, but googling same thing results in about 851,000 results (0.43 seconds) Skyrim is an interesting one. About 9,220,000 results (0.43 seconds) Destiny. About 14,800,000 results (0.48 seconds) Destiny 2. About 39,000,000 results (0.45 seconds) Warframe. About 3,650,000 results (0.41 seconds) Red Dead Redemption. About 18,000,000 results (0.49 seconds) Super Mario Bros. 3. About 21,800,000 results (0.56 seconds) Action 52. About 149,000,000 results (0.70 seconds) For me: Anthem 23.9M Witcher 10.3M Warframe 5.5M Skyrim 9.0M etc
So, for me, Anthem is already topping the charts, so to speak, even though it just got out. Good thing, seems like there are a lot of ppl talking, so Anthem is a celebrity of a sorts.
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Post by CHRrOME on Mar 11, 2019 14:43:33 GMT
Someone else will be able to explain why, I really don't know, but google search results differ dramatically from person to person. For example if I type Anthem bugs and glitches I get approx. 22,000,000 results and Witcher 3 only 4,000,000 results. Destiny 2 nets me 46 million. It depends on a whole host of things. Yup. One thing is that Google searchs (or most other search engines) are heavily biased towards regions. So you'll get prefference on finding what you're looking for so long as it's in your region (America, north, south, Europe, east, west. Asia. Etc), so much so to the point you might not find what someone else does. Same happens with Facebook and Twitter (this one to a lesser extent) as an example when typing someone's name.
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Post by acehilator on Mar 11, 2019 14:48:17 GMT
99.9% of google results is just the same rehashed content spread to different sites, it's no metric that allows you to judge anything (apart from general popularity of a certain subject, and even that is highly debateable). On topic, game is broken on a fundamental level: scaling doesn't work at all because with two exceptions it's all additive. Lots of math ahead (reddit source): Depressive dive down the rabbit holeDid notice that while trying to gear my Storm, I thought I was going crazy. I wasn't. Didn't notice it as much on my Colossus main, because Colossus is bugged (double damage on combo explosions). And just for some more hilarity (also reddit source): Breakdown of loot chancesGot what, four days left on Origin Access? Yeah, not even going to bother.
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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 11, 2019 15:01:16 GMT
Did notice that while trying to gear my Storm, I thought I was going crazy. I wasn't. Didn't notice it as much on my Colossus main, because Colossus is bugged (double damage on combo explosions). Colossus combos deal double dmg? Sounds like a feature to this Colossus player.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 11, 2019 16:31:16 GMT
Big Snip ^^^^This one was more specific about the loot drops.....and looking at Obadiah post, looks like there are still some serious loading/missions issues Bioware still needs to sort out...it kinda rings true of stories of how while Bioware patches fixes and improves some things, other things become broken. Big Snip
I've coded for years with different compilers and assemblers. The issues remain the same. The main being a lack of proper understanding of what you want to achieve. In turn, the design fails . It becomes a mess when no proper testing and verification is made. One can easily write a Test Generator to simulate the drop rates, loot types and Javelin levels using initial loot tables, percentages, rarity types... etc. printing the results would reveal much. Once the tables are accepted then.... you design and code the rewards.
If the Reward Subsystem of the game (read Loot Drops) is done poorly / not properly and completely test expect problems cropping up in unexpected places when a change is made.
It appears that if Bio asked the question " how do we reward the player?", the answer was never clear. And the coding? Well, the results speak for themselves. Eventually they will need to re-write the loot reward system. A patchwork of fixes won't work for long.
Maybe that's why they call it a "live service"....
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Post by OdanUrr on Mar 11, 2019 20:04:53 GMT
People are trying to coordinate a blackout on reddit from Monday to Friday. Not sure how effective it'll be since we don't know player numbers to begin with, but more power to them. It currently has over 10k upvotes. Protest to revert Loot drop changes.
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Post by Lazarillo on Mar 11, 2019 20:09:26 GMT
They'll stop playing the game they already paid for, thus easing server loads (and therefore costs on EA)? Oh, NO!
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