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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 15, 2019 17:05:38 GMT
Well, that's a start at least...
I would call this good news for anybody still playing the game who's worried EA will drop it same as MEA.
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Post by Superhik on Apr 15, 2019 17:29:36 GMT
TLDR:
"Loot guy", we need you.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Apr 15, 2019 18:22:47 GMT
TLDR: "Loot guy", we need you.inb4 ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407562125364428800/567412983882448908/loot_guns.jpg) tbh ![](https://storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/AzXaeStCEQFFyFTdyuGW.png)
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Post by lennybusker on Apr 15, 2019 20:28:49 GMT
What's the problem with playing as some dude here now? I'm currently playing a demented hulk of a dude in Borderlands 2 as a woman and I LOVE it. Anybody who had played Anthem has played some dude or some chick with zero personality, no? So as long as people can choose between cardboard avatar female or cardboard avatar male it's good then or what? I don't get the issue. Btw, ya all gotta play Thronebreaker. This game is so damn good! You'll be forced to play as a woman however with a set personality, so beware! Relax. I've been playing games for 35 years, playing a game with forced protagonist as Some Dude is just boring now. If I want to play the game and it is what it is then fine, but if I have a choice I'll pick a female PC every time.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 15, 2019 21:08:44 GMT
Relax. I've been playing games for 35 years, playing a game with forced protagonist as Some Dude is just boring now. If I want to play the game and it is what it is then fine, but if I have a choice I'll pick a female PC every time. But why? What's better about playing a woman other than that being "somebody unlike myself"? I myself don't care who I play as long as the narrative is interesting. If the protagonist has personality, that's a huge bonus of course. More often than not however, the more customization, the less personality. At least when we're talking more than aesthetics. When it's just about picking a sex that doesn't really affect the story, I usually pick the more attractive voice or face, hahaha. If the game has romances I usually play female and straight first because I might enjoy that the most. But that has backfired on several occasions. *g* So, what exactly are you looking for? Role-playing somebody very different from yourself? Is it enough if it's the body of the opposite gender? Does the opposite gender really offer the most contrast? I'm curious since I have no such approach.
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Post by tatann on Apr 15, 2019 21:14:26 GMT
I have no problem playing a female character in a game with a specifically set protagonist (especially if she's a badass like Ripley), but if I'm playing a role playing game, I'll always choose a male character because I find it more immersive (for me obviously). That's why I'm glad when "not really RPG" games like AC Odyssey (or Jedi Academy) allow to choose gender, cause if I were a women, I'd like to be able to role play a badass assassin (or Jedi) I'm still planning to get Thronebreaker though, but for the story/strategy parts, not the RPG aspect
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Post by river82 on Apr 15, 2019 22:06:19 GMT
A loot game needs good loot? What a weird concept ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/CeRUIfXurYhaBmWjMBkt.png)
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Post by Polka Dot on Apr 15, 2019 23:04:55 GMT
Relax. I've been playing games for 35 years, playing a game with forced protagonist as Some Dude is just boring now. If I want to play the game and it is what it is then fine, but if I have a choice I'll pick a female PC every time. But why? What's better about playing a woman other than that being "somebody unlike myself"? I myself don't care who I play as long as the narrative is interesting. If the protagonist has personality, that's a huge bonus of course. More often than not however, the more customization, the less personality. At least when we're talking more than aesthetics. When it's just about picking a sex that doesn't really affect the story, I usually pick the more attractive voice or face, hahaha. If the game has romances I usually play female and straight first because I might enjoy that the most. But that has backfired on several occasions. *g* So, what exactly are you looking for? Role-playing somebody very different from yourself? Is it enough if it's the body of the opposite gender? Does the opposite gender really offer the most contrast? I'm curious since I have no such approach. I can't answer for Lenny, so I'll answer from my own point of view. (I think Lenny may have alluded to some things, though with Some Dude and having been playing games for 35 years.) I'm also (ahem) not as youthful as I used to be, and for most of my life women's roles in most adventurous/heroic types of stories were to serve as the distressed damsel, romantic interest, prize, or other inspiration for the heroic actions of the very important male protagonist. Things have certainly changed, but there are still hundreds of Hercules for every Xena, and a legion of Angels for every Buffy. And very few films pass the Bechdel test; most stories are told from a distinctly male point of view. It's just tiresome. I invest quite a bit in the characters I play, so I prefer they be something other than yet another unshaven Some Dude dude with a buzz cut. That's not to say I wouldn't (or don't) play male characters. In fact, my current DAO run is a male dwarf noble. I just prefer playing female characters, and - all other things being equal - will always choose games that offer a female PC over those that do not.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 15, 2019 23:06:45 GMT
Relax. I've been playing games for 35 years, playing a game with forced protagonist as Some Dude is just boring now. If I want to play the game and it is what it is then fine, but if I have a choice I'll pick a female PC every time. But why? What's better about playing a woman other than that being "somebody unlike myself"? I myself don't care who I play as long as the narrative is interesting. If the protagonist has personality, that's a huge bonus of course. More often than not however, the more customization, the less personality. At least when we're talking more than aesthetics. When it's just about picking a sex that doesn't really affect the story, I usually pick the more attractive voice or face, hahaha. If the game has romances I usually play female and straight first because I might enjoy that the most. But that has backfired on several occasions. *g* So, what exactly are you looking for? Role-playing somebody very different from yourself? Is it enough if it's the body of the opposite gender? Does the opposite gender really offer the most contrast? I'm curious since I have no such approach. The more I want to immerse in a game the more I want char gen and be able to play a guy. This game I’d prefer it but wouldn’t be a deal breaker. Like I played HZD. Underwhelmed but I was willing to play even with fixed protagonist female. Ratchet and clank level no fucks given what I’m playing. RPGs I’m irritated at fixed even multiple fixed protagonists like in borderlands.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 15, 2019 23:33:24 GMT
What's the problem with playing as some dude here now? I'm currently playing a demented hulk of a dude in Borderlands 2 as a woman and I LOVE it. Anybody who had played Anthem has played some dude or some chick with zero personality, no? So as long as people can choose between cardboard avatar female or cardboard avatar male it's good then or what? I don't get the issue. Btw, ya all gotta play Thronebreaker. This game is so damn good! You'll be forced to play as a woman however with a set personality, so beware! I agree with this. I tend to play multiple runs of games, so will switch it up each game. I don't see what all the fuss is personally. I guess people put themselves into the role much more than I do. I'm just the guy steering the avatar around, enjoying the story (if there is one)
I've never heard of ThroneBreaker. I'll have to look it up.
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Post by river82 on Apr 15, 2019 23:41:13 GMT
I've never heard of ThroneBreaker. I'll have to look it up. You battle using cards. A lot of people don't like that mechanic so people should be aware of that going in
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 15, 2019 23:45:32 GMT
I've never heard of ThroneBreaker. I'll have to look it up. You battle using cards. A lot of people don't like that mechanic so people should be aware of that going in Ah, thanks, yeah I'm not really interested in that playstyle.
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Post by tatann on Apr 16, 2019 5:43:01 GMT
I've never heard of ThroneBreaker. I'll have to look it up. You battle using cards. A lot of people don't like that mechanic so people should be aware of that going in I don't like Gwent in TW3 cause I have a shitty card set and can't find good ones at merchants, so I always loose. But I like the concept. And in the worst case, I'll set to the difficulty to easy and follow the story which should be great
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Post by officerdonnz on Apr 16, 2019 5:48:45 GMT
Bioware opened job postings for loot and item creation design. ROFL. Maybe they should have done that 2-3 years ago? This is too funny. Sorry for anyone who thought things were miraculously going to change in the near future. Talk about closing the gate after the horse has bolted....
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 16, 2019 9:57:25 GMT
You battle using cards. A lot of people don't like that mechanic so people should be aware of that going in I don't like Gwent in TW3 cause I have a shitty card set and can't find good ones at merchants, so I always loose. But I like the concept. And in the worst case, I'll set to the difficulty to easy and follow the story which should be great On Easy you can skip all battles. So even if one is not into the card battle mechanics, it's a very well done narrative to enjoy. Thronebreaker is basically a very high quality audio book with pretty illustrations. I highly recommend it to anybody who likes the Witcher universe. It's BLEAK though. I think even worse than the other games. There are no winners in war. No matter what choices you make (and you get to make a lot of them), somebody will always hate you for it! Tons of humor in between the horror though as to be expected. This game is a real gem. I've fallen in love with it. Not just because I love Gwent. It's not a cheap singleplayer spin-off to the online game. It has a ton of charm if one can look past the old school map design and dialogue presentation. Voice acting is very very good! Sound design is also fantastic. Great score once again!
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Post by clips7 on Apr 16, 2019 10:08:30 GMT
I thought thee exact same thing.....these projects are planned years ahead and while things do change when the project starts, core aspects of the game such as loot are and should be developed with certainty on how they are going to be implemented. This shows Bioware had no clue and was making this up as they went along. No way they should be sending out job applications for this (post launch) when they already supposedly had a team in place for Anthem..... I'm still rooting for Bioware, as i feel EA is still manipulating them behind the scenes, but Anthem's development cycle (like Andromeda) has been a train-wreck from the very beginning....if they don't get their s**t together soon, folks will stat to abandon them....if they haven't begun already....
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Post by tatann on Apr 16, 2019 10:33:32 GMT
I don't like Gwent in TW3 cause I have a shitty card set and can't find good ones at merchants, so I always loose. But I like the concept. And in the worst case, I'll set to the difficulty to easy and follow the story which should be great On Easy you can skip all battles. So even if one is not into the card battle mechanics, it's a very well done narrative to enjoy. Thronebreaker is basically a very high quality audio book with pretty illustrations. I highly recommend it to anybody who likes the Witcher universe. It's BLEAK though. I think even worse than the other games. There are no winners in war. No matter what choices you make (and you get to make a lot of them), somebody will always hate you for it! Tons of humor in between the horror though as to be expected. This game is a real gem. I've fallen in love with it. Not just because I love Gwent. It's not a cheap singleplayer spin-off to the online game. It has a ton of charm if one can look past the old school map design and dialogue presentation. Voice acting is very very good! Sound design is also fantastic. Great score once again!
It's already on my GOG wishlist, I just wait to finish TW3 last expansion to buy it
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 16, 2019 11:10:18 GMT
I can't answer for Lenny, so I'll answer from my own point of view. (I think Lenny may have alluded to some things, though with Some Dude and having been playing games for 35 years.) I'm also (ahem) not as youthful as I used to be, and for most of my life women's roles in most adventurous/heroic types of stories were to serve as the distressed damsel, romantic interest, prize, or other inspiration for the heroic actions of the very important male protagonist. Things have certainly changed, but there are still hundreds of Hercules for every Xena, and a legion of Angels for every Buffy. And very few films pass the Bechdel test; most stories are told from a distinctly male point of view. It's just tiresome. I invest quite a bit in the characters I play, so I prefer they be something other than yet another unshaven Some Dude dude with a buzz cut. That's not to say I wouldn't (or don't) play male characters. In fact, my current DAO run is a male dwarf noble. I just prefer playing female characters, and - all other things being equal - will always choose games that offer a female PC over those that do not. Are you female yourself? I'm asking because the female option seems to have a lot to do with identification of female players. Which obviously isn't true for lennybusker. Regardless, I'm going to run with that for a moment... I've been playing games for about 25 years, started with the GameBoy when I was nine years old. First console at age 12. Back then the games I played often had cartoon protagonist, many not even human. In my teens I got into JRPGs because those were basically the only RPGs on console. While the main character was usually male, it was always a group of girls and boys. So I wasn't actually playing some guy a lot or at least didn't feel like I was playing a guy game with female characters as damsels.
I disliked western games because they all seemed to be war shooters and other games aimed at teenage boys. Instead I bought girly games like Viva Pinata, hahaha.
It wasn't until I very reluctantly gave Mass Effect a shot after a friend insisted it was actually an RPG. And oh boy, what a revelation it was. Came at a time when I felt too old for the childish storytelling of most JRPGs. Being able to pick Shepard's sex and appearance and find romances geared towards women literally blew my mind, lol! I fell in love hard and fast with Bioware! And a whole new world of western RPGs opened up!
As most people who discover representation I jumped on every opportunity to play female. It was great. That novelty wore off after about 5 years. Now I decide on which sex to play on a whim. Like, I was going to pick female for FO4 because of the voice actress but the creepy smile in character creation turned me off. I couldn't get a female look I liked. Switched to male and immediately found a look I liked, no creepy smile. So that was that.
I get the boredom with the same old, same old. On the other hand, if a game is not really about the protagonist and they are literally just your eyes and hands, I couldn't care less. Which is the case with most action games. Playing a female pair of legs to get around adds nothing to the experience, aside from maybe looking at a nice butt when you're into that.
I personally just want to play an interesting story with interesting characters I can relate to. Or gain a new perspective. These days the things that trigger my interest are predominantly art style and narrative hook. Building my own characters is never high on my list of things I want. I enjoy Bethesda games for roleplaying any kind of character. But oddly, I have less playthroughs of their games than I have Shepards. I care more about following different narrative threads, seeing how different choices play out than being able to make up my own stories. But that's not what you guys mean, I think?
I believe the problem with "some dude" lies more with the type of male character that one is presented with. A buff unflinching killing machine. Gaming doesn't just need more female protagonists, I think today we have plenty of those, but different kinds of male heroes. We need more regular guys. Nerdy guys. Those who do not enjoy bashing heads in. The male power fantasy I find tiresome too. I know several men who feel that way too. Because if we're talking about representation I don't think the stoic soldier has much to offer. But even more tiresome I find the current feminist ideal of the woman who is better than all the men that is like cancer to good storytelling if you ask me. I'm currently hate watching Handmaid's Tale, S2 is becoming unbearable. If passing the Bechdel test results in more shows like that one, I might have to vomit. ;P
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Post by tatann on Apr 16, 2019 13:20:02 GMT
I believe the problem with "some dude" lies more with the type of male character that one is presented with. A buff unflinching killing machine. Gaming doesn't just need more female protagonists, I think today we have plenty of those, but different kinds of male heroes. We need more regular guys. Nerdy guys. Those who do not enjoy bashing heads in. The male power fantasy I find tiresome too. I know several men who feel that way too. Because if we're talking about representation I don't think the stoic soldier has much to offer. [/div] But even more tiresome I find the current feminist ideal of the woman who is better than all the men that is like cancer to good storytelling if you ask me. I'm currently hate watching Handmaid's Tale, S2 is becoming unbearable. If passing the Bechdel test results in more shows like that one, I might have to vomit. ;P [/quote] I think that's kinda sexist (feels good to be able to say that ^^ ) I have (male) friends who play male characters, but the rogue/infiltrator/"stab you in the back" type Myself I mostly play support (as a male too) cause it's my mindset Not all males are berserkers (or tanks) wannabes ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/CeRUIfXurYhaBmWjMBkt.png) A great thing about Warframe is that it breaks all these cliches
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Apr 16, 2019 13:25:04 GMT
I believe the problem with "some dude" lies more with the type of male character that one is presented with. A buff unflinching killing machine. Gaming doesn't just need more female protagonists, I think today we have plenty of those, but different kinds of male heroes. We need more regular guys. Nerdy guys. Those who do not enjoy bashing heads in. The male power fantasy I find tiresome too. I know several men who feel that way too. Because if we're talking about representation I don't think the stoic soldier has much to offer. You need some Sand and more un-stoic people!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 13:27:03 GMT
Are you female yourself? I'm asking because the female option seems to have a lot to do with identification of female players. Which obviously isn't true for lennybusker . Regardless, I'm going to run with that for a moment... I've been playing games for about 25 years, started with the GameBoy when I was nine years old. First console at age 12. Back then the games I played often had cartoon protagonist, many not even human. In my teens I got into JRPGs because those were basically the only RPGs on console. While the main character was usually male, it was always a group of girls and boys. So I wasn't actually playing some guy a lot or at least didn't feel like I was playing a guy game with female characters as damsels.
I disliked western games because they all seemed to be war shooters and other games aimed at teenage boys. Instead I bought girly games like Viva Pinata, hahaha.
It wasn't until I very reluctantly gave Mass Effect a shot after a friend insisted it was actually an RPG. And oh boy, what a revelation it was. Came at a time when I felt too old for the childish storytelling of most JRPGs. Being able to pick Shepard's sex and appearance and find romances geared towards women literally blew my mind, lol! I fell in love hard and fast with Bioware! And a whole new world of western RPGs opened up!
As most people who discover representation I jumped on every opportunity to play female. It was great. That novelty wore off after about 5 years. Now I decide on which sex to play on a whim. Like, I was going to pick female for FO4 because of the voice actress but the creepy smile in character creation turned me off. I couldn't get a female look I liked. Switched to male and immediately found a look I liked, no creepy smile. So that was that.
I get the boredom with the same old, same old. On the other hand, if a game is not really about the protagonist and they are literally just your eyes and hands, I couldn't care less. Which is the case with most action games. Playing a female pair of legs to get around adds nothing to the experience, aside from maybe looking at a nice butt when you're into that.
I personally just want to play an interesting story with interesting characters I can relate to. Or gain a new perspective. These days the things that trigger my interest are predominantly art style and narrative hook. Building my own characters is never high on my list of things I want. I enjoy Bethesda games for roleplaying any kind of character. But oddly, I have less playthroughs of their games than I have Shepards. I care more about following different narrative threads, seeing how different choices play out than being able to make up my own stories. But that's not what you guys mean, I think?
I believe the problem with "some dude" lies more with the type of male character that one is presented with. A buff unflinching killing machine. Gaming doesn't just need more female protagonists, I think today we have plenty of those, but different kinds of male heroes. We need more regular guys. Nerdy guys. Those who do not enjoy bashing heads in. The male power fantasy I find tiresome too. I know several men who feel that way too. Because if we're talking about representation I don't think the stoic soldier has much to offer. But even more tiresome I find the current feminist ideal of the woman who is better than all the men that is like cancer to good storytelling if you ask me. I'm currently hate watching Handmaid's Tale, S2 is becoming unbearable. If passing the Bechdel test results in more shows like that one, I might have to vomit. ;P Female Fallout 4 character turned you off? Jack would smear you with her biotics. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uYQYVMAupPAfTXFFwWlB.png) (Yes, female character voiced by Courtenay Taylor)
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Post by SirSourpuss on Apr 16, 2019 13:30:21 GMT
I find the current feminist ideal of the woman who is better than all the men that is like cancer to good storytelling if you ask me. I'm currently hate watching Handmaid's Tale, S2 is becoming unbearable I watched the first season, mostly for Strahovski reasons, and I found it pretty good. Yvonne herself had some very subtle and some very intense performances in it, which I wasn't use to seeing from her. In that sense I was pleasantly surprised, she seems to have really improved in her art. I haven't got around to season two, yet. Feel free to spoiler me a little. But yes, the trope of women being better than all the men, I've seen it before, quite prevalent in Horizon Zero Dawn, as far as video games go and it's the standard in most Marvel comics today. People don't realize, or writers more accurately, that having a person seem competent in dealing with idiots, does not elevate them in terms of accomplishment. Like, imagine winning a chess tournament, because only " special" children participated. I'd sure feel empowered ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png)
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 16, 2019 14:36:43 GMT
I find the current feminist ideal of the woman who is better than all the men that is like cancer to good storytelling if you ask me. I'm currently hate watching Handmaid's Tale, S2 is becoming unbearable I watched the first season, mostly for Strahovski reasons, and I found it pretty good. Yvonne herself had some very subtle and some very intense performances in it, which I wasn't use to seeing from her. In that sense I was pleasantly surprised, she seems to have really improved in her art. I haven't got around to season two, yet. Feel free to spoiler me a little. But yes, the trope of women being better than all the men, I've seen it before, quite prevalent in Horizon Zero Dawn, as far as video games go and it's the standard in most Marvel comics today. People don't realize, or writers more accurately, that having a person seem competent in dealing with idiots, does not elevate them in terms of accomplishment. Like, imagine winning a chess tournament, because only " special" children participated. I'd sure feel empowered ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) S1 had potential and, yes, Strahovski's character I found to be the most interesting. So far they haven't done much with her character... same goes for Aunt Lydia. ZERO background on that character by the midpoint of S2! The show is just misery porn (or torture porn for the first few episodes of S2) about the evil evil victimization of innocent women. Nobody but these poor women matter for the story. Not all the men who get hanged for helping them. THEY are the real heroes imo but of course nobody cares about men anymore. It's just women and gay people because that's the PC thing to do these days. Bonus points for the now ever present black lesbian kickass woman where you can tick several boxes in one character. It's getting ridiculous... this shit is ruining art.
I think that's kinda sexist (feels good to be able to say that ^^ ) I have (male) friends who play male characters, but the rogue/infiltrator/"stab you in the back" type Myself I mostly play support (as a male too) cause it's my mindset Not all males are berserkers (or tanks) wannabes ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/CeRUIfXurYhaBmWjMBkt.png) A great thing about Warframe is that it breaks all these cliches Hm? I was referring to the power fantasy the games go for and asking how many men can actually identify with the buzzcut grunt character. It was exactly my point that we need more variety in male protagonists too. Not just in combat class but also personality. Everybody is going on about representation of women in the media like games, what about the way games have always pushed a certain male fantasy that is every bit as limiting as certain female roles?
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"Why are you telling me this? I can read and draw my own conclusions." - Roach
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Post by Blast Processor on Apr 16, 2019 14:50:00 GMT
You battle using cards. A lot of people don't like that mechanic so people should be aware of that going in I don't like Gwent in TW3 cause I have a shitty card set and can't find good ones at merchants, so I always loose. But I like the concept. And in the worst case, I'll set to the difficulty to easy and follow the story which should be great The game gives you most cards. You can upgrade those cards through crafting and also you unlock new special effect, leader and character cards naturally by just traversing through the game. Generally if you are ever presented with a choice of act or do not act, choosing to act leads to special cards for good or ill. Also, there are two types of battle. Regular battle which is pretty similar to TW3, and puzzle battles. In puzzle battle you have to solve a puzzle (LOL! I know right!) using predetermined cards, there is usually only one way to solve it. I am also playing easy, once I figured out the cards and built up my deck I've been destroying opponents ever since. Black Rayla is OP as hell and in tandem with other cards pretty much lets you cheat your entire deck onto the battlefield. Too bad she is a psychopath.
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