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Post by uprightshark on Jan 30, 2018 17:41:52 GMT
CLassic microsoft: we won't build our own studios from scratch but instead we ll buy another so the other will miss the games. seriously?? Well, I can't really say that it's not a sound tactic, but I just can't see Microsoft successfully pulling off any decent game out of whatever in-house studio it could cobble together. Shit they can't even make a good mobile OS to save their lives. 343 and Halo Guardians? |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 30, 2018 17:54:26 GMT
I know my opinion MIGHT be in the minority, or at least controversial, but IMO BioWare games have gotten pretty much consistently better since EA bought them. Only real anomoly was ME 3, which I still enjoyed more then ME 1 but there was obvious problems with the game. The only area which might have degraded was their plot writing but they have had across the board improvements...or haven't gotten any worse in any area from character writing, to bugs, to gameplay etc. Yeah I agree I mostly enjoy Bioware's games I wouldn't want to be forced to adopt Windows 10 or be forced to use a conrtoller to play them on X box especially with my disability. If that's the price we'd have to pay I'd rather EA stay out of MS's hands. EA may have had a bad year with both MEA and Battlefront 2 but they do have the resources to turn it around and make up for it. I'd rather they be given the chance to do that. |
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jan 30, 2018 18:31:06 GMT
Did someone say that MS is worse than EA? One of them offers a back compat program. One of them offers EA Access. One of them offers Game Pass. One of them offers a console with out of the box graphics improvements over previous gens, and play anywhere. Hate Microsoft's first party output all you want, but you can't deny that Microsoft is the most consumer friendly of the three this gen. Cut of that bullshit. Look at the shitstorm EA caused last years where entire countries began looking after it. I won't say they're guilty for MEA sucking, cause BioWare fucked up that one, but they're doing a lot more evil to the industry. seriously?? did you forget the xbox one? or you are just joyriding on microsoft because they need to do better cause they are biting the dust of sony's shoes? No corporations is a saint but microsoft has brought he worst always, With that said xbox1x is a great console What about the Xbox One? It has all of that, the others don't. |
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 30, 2018 18:49:55 GMT
It's no wonder their animatronics have gotten worse since frostbite when you consider that they used integrated features from UE3 to create the cinematics of the trilogy and them having had to rebuild this tech themselves for Frostbite has just been a disaster. I'll give it that it looked better as far as facial expressions went in DAI but it still looked more like animatronics than it did in the trilogy and the camerawork in particular got way way worse. The problem is people were still whining about the UE3 based cinematics they were "last gen looking" and a "complete piece of crap" combined with other comments about how bad the game looked visually comments like that were common with Mass Effect 2 and 3, so that could just as easily been a vocal problem with it if they did decide to use Unreal. The cinematography in 2 is fantastic. It's less good in 3 but it has its moments, but in Inquisition and Andromeda it fell into the toilet. The motion capture and facial animations are 100% on BioWare and also people simply failed to realize there's a difference to animated for a game like Uncharted 2 vs Mass Effect 2 which has around 30k more lines of voiced dialogue. It has to be partly automated or algorithmic. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 30, 2018 18:55:12 GMT
I don't know, I'll say this where there is smoke there is fire. Remember the Disney purchase of 21st Century Fox assets? It sounds an awful lot like that. I don't know, i'm just spitballing here, but what if this what the devs meant when Mass Effect has a "bright" future? From a gamer point of view, I don't know how they can say that with a straight face with what happened to MEA.
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Post by kino on Jan 30, 2018 19:13:08 GMT
I think it's more likely that the war chest means that MS can more easily afford to pay developers to release exclusives, particularly timed exclusives, for the Xbox.
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Post by warrior on Jan 30, 2018 19:20:17 GMT
They'd be on the PC also. In which case it'd just be the same as the Mass Effect trilogy. I guess there's that, though I generally stay away from Windows for home use. Mass Effect/Dragon Age are about the only things that would get me to own a gaming rig if it came to that. yeah same. I played the old games on a PC I bought for a job. now the job allows Mac so I just use my Macbook Air for it. so if I bought a XB or a PC it would be, like, for this reason only. though I guess a PC would open up some opportunities for other good games that don't make it to console. |
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Post by guanxi on Jan 30, 2018 19:24:03 GMT
If Fifa, Madden and Battlefield, and all Star Wars games became exclusive to Xbox and PC I can't see a way back for Sony - it would cripple them like it does Nintendo. I don't care for any of those licenses but that's like 30%+ of annual games sales in one fell swoop. Nintendo is crippled? They might have a cap.. somewhere.. for easy reasons, but that's a far cry from crippled. Lack of third party support killed the wii u, if you take away most of the biggest selling third party games away from Sony they'll be in the same boat minus the hardware gimmicks. Switch is having a good year but the big guns have all dropped now I can't see them sustaining those sales much longer on indies and token last-gen ports after the novelty factor is gone. |
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Post by Superhik on Jan 30, 2018 19:55:28 GMT
I'd love it just to see it light a fire under Sony's ass. Still remember that dumb comment on back compatibility: “That, and I was at a Gran Turismo event recently where they had PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games, and the PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?”
Zero chance of this happening, though, unless they have better alternatives. They'd probably go after smaller studios, surprised no one went after CDPR so far.
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Post by river82 on Jan 30, 2018 20:17:12 GMT
If it wasn't for the PS4 putting pressure on Microsoft, we'd have an always online XBox One with an evil all seeing eye. Just thought I'd put that out there   |
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Jan 30, 2018 20:24:46 GMT
I don't know, I'll say this where there is smoke there is fire. Remember the Disney purchase of 21st Century Fox assets? It sounds an awful lot like that. I don't know, i'm just spitballing here, but what if this what the devs meant when Mass Effect has a "bright" future? From a gamer point of view, I don't know how they can say that with a straight face with what happened to MEA. That's just political bs. They'll also say "some people liked the endings to ME3!" and "it was just a vocal minority that hated it!" To skip over all the bad feelings. |
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Post by kenshen19 on Jan 30, 2018 20:41:32 GMT
Have people really already forgotten the crap Microsoft tried to pull in tricking people to "upgrade" to windows 10? This is like trading one devil for another. Part of me would rather just see Mass Effect fade away to memory than put it in the hands of Microsoft.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 30, 2018 20:43:55 GMT
I'd love it just to see it light a fire under Sony's ass. Still remember that dumb comment on back compatibility: “That, and I was at a Gran Turismo event recently where they had PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games, and the PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?” Zero chance of this happening, though, unless they have better alternatives. They'd probably go after smaller studios, surprised no one went after CDPR so far. One of the major reasons why I loved the PS2 was it's backwards compatibility. |
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Post by smilesja on Jan 30, 2018 20:45:21 GMT
I know my opinion MIGHT be in the minority, or at least controversial, but IMO BioWare games have gotten pretty much consistently better since EA bought them. Only real anomoly was ME 3, which I still enjoyed more then ME 1 but there was obvious problems with the game. The only area which might have degraded was their plot writing but they have had across the board improvements...or haven't gotten any worse in any area from character writing, to bugs, to gameplay etc. No "might" about it. You are definitely the minority. Andromeda is a poop stain on the Mass Effect underwear. I thought It was the Mass Effect 3 Endings? |
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 30, 2018 21:12:25 GMT
I don't know, I'll say this where there is smoke there is fire. Remember the Disney purchase of 21st Century Fox assets? It sounds an awful lot like that. I don't know, i'm just spitballing here, but what if this what the devs meant when Mass Effect has a "bright" future? From a gamer point of view, I don't know how they can say that with a straight face with what happened to MEA. There is a difference between the Fox/Disney deal and this one, that is it was known that Fox was trying to sell off its assets so when Disney took interest it wasn't a big surprise. This is Microsoft talking about making a cold offer on EA which means they are going to probably have to offer more then what EA is worth so they can either do a hostile takeover or try and convince EA and its board of directors its a good thing which I think would be a hard sell for the concern would then become EA titles would exclude Sony platforms which helps drive game sales so EA would lose sales numbers and make less money. |
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jan 30, 2018 21:24:02 GMT
I don't know, I'll say this where there is smoke there is fire. Remember the Disney purchase of 21st Century Fox assets? It sounds an awful lot like that. I don't know, i'm just spitballing here, but what if this what the devs meant when Mass Effect has a "bright" future? From a gamer point of view, I don't know how they can say that with a straight face with what happened to MEA. There is a difference between the Fox/Disney deal and this one, that is it was known that Fox was trying to sell off its assets so when Disney took interest it wasn't a big surprise. This is Microsoft talking about making a cold offer on EA which means they are going to probably have to offer more then what EA is worth so they can either do a hostile takeover or try and convince EA and its board of directors its a good thing which I think would be a hard sell for the concern would then become EA titles would exclude Sony platforms which helps drive game sales so EA would lose sales numbers and make less money. I was more talking about it in a mere rumor sense. It was reported that serious talks were in place, but didn't go through. Then a couple weeks later or so Disney has 21st Century Fox assets. |
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 30, 2018 21:24:16 GMT
I'd love it just to see it light a fire under Sony's ass. Still remember that dumb comment on back compatibility: “That, and I was at a Gran Turismo event recently where they had PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games, and the PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?” Zero chance of this happening, though, unless they have better alternatives. They'd probably go after smaller studios, surprised no one went after CDPR so far. One of the major reasons why I loved the PS2 was it's backwards compatibility. Same with the PS3 as well that's why I stayed with the Playstation until now |
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 30, 2018 21:59:42 GMT
This is Microsoft talking about making a cold offer on EA which means they are going to probably have to offer more then what EA is worth so they can either do a hostile takeover or try and convince EA and its board of directors its a good thing which I think would be a hard sell for the concern would then become EA titles would exclude Sony platforms which helps drive game sales so EA would lose sales numbers and make less money. Well, the flip side of that is that you've got platform exclusivity working for the combined firm. We're seeing a lot of vertical integration lately in other media. (We're going to really miss Netflix owning everything when competing platforms like Disney's get off the ground.) |
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Post by turianlannister on Jan 30, 2018 22:10:06 GMT
I can't lie, if any future ME and DA titles became XBox exclusives, I'd be salty as fuck. I dowanna own a gorram XBox, mang. I mean, I'd still get one because I'm a hopeless Mass Effect and Dragon Age fanboy, but still...rabble rabble. I suppose in the end this would sure beat the IP's simply dying painful deaths in EA's torture fungeon. You most likely wouldn't need to buy an XBox, most games made for XBox are also released for PC, ME1 was made for Microsoft but it was also on PC |
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Post by Fogg on Jan 30, 2018 22:38:41 GMT
This would be good. Exclusive titles can be great singleplayer games without live services, because the extra income for Microsoft would be people buying an Xbox. Just like Sony didn't have to put loot boxes in Uncharted and Nintendo in Zelda. These are friendly amazing games to promote the platform.
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Post by tacsear on Jan 30, 2018 23:03:51 GMT
Well it beats Bioware getting closed by EA
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 30, 2018 23:07:11 GMT
I can't lie, if any future ME and DA titles became XBox exclusives, I'd be salty as fuck. I dowanna own a gorram XBox, mang. I mean, I'd still get one because I'm a hopeless Mass Effect and Dragon Age fanboy, but still...rabble rabble. I suppose in the end this would sure beat the IP's simply dying painful deaths in EA's torture fungeon. You most likely wouldn't need to buy an XBox, most games made for XBox are also released for PC, ME1 was made for Microsoft but it was also on PC Maybe but if MS got it then there's always a chance it can be which could be a problem. |
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Post by turianlannister on Jan 30, 2018 23:21:37 GMT
You most likely wouldn't need to buy an XBox, most games made for XBox are also released for PC, ME1 was made for Microsoft but it was also on PC Maybe but if MS got it then there's always a chance it can be which could be a problem. Why would it be? Most PC laptops are sold with MS operating systems, they'll make money either way |
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Post by Gya on Jan 31, 2018 0:03:32 GMT
I wouldn't mind so much, just as long as in DA4 when I level up strength, a paperclip appears and says "I see you're trying to build a warrior". Maybe it's the Stockholm syndrome, but I miss that little turd.
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Post by rapscallioness on Jan 31, 2018 0:08:47 GMT
Do it. Do eeett! I don't even care anymore. It's time to get a divorce from EA.
Truth is, we've been estranged for quite some time already. As Bioware fans? How many different ways can EA tell you to go fvck yourself? They shut down the forums which is akin to coming home and finding out that all your shit has been thrown out the window. That little diva bruja threw all your shit out into the street. Your underwear is dangling from the trees and what not. The neighbors standing around watching like, "Dayum."
They stick a shiv in the ME IP in more ways than one. Whatever they're doing with DA, Idk. If anthem flops, we will never see DA4. Hell, if Anthem does too well, we may never see a DA4. Reassuring words about DA4 as long as you don't listen to the mumblemumble.."things may change...still years away" parts. As long as you don't mind that Laidlaw has left and The Darrah is now EPing both DA and Anthem. What? Why? Where is yours, Anthem? It's like your Old Man told you, "Hey, baby, I'll be right back. Gotta run to the store for some smokes,"...2 weeks ago.
I take their words of reassurance with a grain of salt. I think they really just don't want any more bad press in general. They don't want to tangle with their nerdy, sci fi/fantasy, rpg players. Esp so soon after the BF2 backlash. And they really don't want to stir up the BSN nerdy, sci fi/fantasy rpg players because they get naked when they go to war. I mean, just clothed in nothing but the righteous sheen of truth and justice.
Ha!
Seriously, though, I know MS is just another corp. overlord, but I feel like at least we stand a chance because right now this situation feels like nothing more than a dead end. Soooo, yeah. Let's go. Fvck it, why not. Either that, or the very top tier of EA needs to be kindly shown the door. Get some really fresh new top tier leadership across the board. People that bring fresh, inspired, consumer friendly visions for the future of EA. And mean it. The kind of people that believe in the importance of craftsmanship.
One way or another.
We'll see if anything comes of this. Stay tuned.
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