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Post by correctamundo on Feb 25, 2018 18:07:18 GMT
Overwatch had no serious impact on the mood of the Diablo boards. The daily amount of "not-Diablo 2" and so forth still persists. Yup Blizzard is dead because "not-Diablo 2". Sort of like the guys going Bioware is dead because of "not-KOTOR", or "not ME" or "not -Shepard" or "not BG or DAO". You get the picture. And yet the future of Blizzard did not hang in the balance based on Overwatch the same way Bioware's is dependant on Anthem. Also Blizzard hasnt released a meme generator game that couldnt crack an 80%+ avg review score..... "citation needed"
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Post by giubba on Feb 25, 2018 18:11:54 GMT
Mate you were the one who was bitching about quantity over quality saying that blizzard put out less game than bioware in a time span of 10 years. Which is false I dunno how much you want to twist your initial post but fact are simple. MMO expansion aren't DLC they require massive amount of money,time and people to create just as much content a normal game have with the sole exception they scope is reduced but we are still talking about creating new classes,doing from scratch dozens of new models,texture mesh etc.,area,dungeons,raid,balance everything and shipping out in a period that it's usually the half on normal game development cycle (2 years instead of 4). No, you are jusy trying to combine expansions with base games in order to debunk my statement about Blizzard producing less games between 2003 and now. You know that if you only include base games such as WoW, Diablo 3, Statecraft 2, Overwatch, then it would be clear that Blizzard produced less games. But you cannot allow that to be right so you add in expansions and act like they are brand new games. The time and money isnt what makes a new game a game, if thats the case, then DA2 isnt a new game but just am expansion because I am sure there are some MMO expansions that took more time and cost more money to make. So is that the conclusion? DA2 is simply an expansion and not a base game? What about KOTOR 2 from Obsidian or Baulders Gate 2? Both games tool less time and money to make compared to some MMO expansions so I guess those are expansions 2 right? Blizzard Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne 2003 Expansion pack World of Warcraft 2004 Windows, OS X MMORPG World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade 2007 Expansion pack World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King 2008 StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 2010 Real-time strategy game World of Warcraft: Cataclysm Expansion pack Diablo III 2012 Windows, OS X, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation 4, Xbox One Action role-playing game World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria Windows, OS X Expansion pack StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm 2013 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_EntertainmentBioware: Kotor 2003 Jade Empire 2005 ME1 2007 DAO 2009 ME2 2010 DA2 2011 ME3 2012 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BioWare_video_games9 for blizzard 7 for Bioware sorry for breaking your bubble, should have done it sooner. Plus what the hell is your point ? That MMO expansions don't require the same amount of resources as normal game which is blatantly false? That expansions are lesser form of product so they doesn't count? Fact is blizzard release more product than Bioware
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 25, 2018 18:24:11 GMT
Also Blizzard hasnt released a meme generator game that couldnt crack an 80%+ avg review score..... According to OpenCritic, a game that delivers an 80%+ average review score sits in the top 20% of released games. Whilst you'd expect more AAA releases to have the funding and expertise to do well, that remains a tough ask, game after game.
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Post by majesticjazz on Feb 25, 2018 18:31:03 GMT
No, you are jusy trying to combine expansions with base games in order to debunk my statement about Blizzard producing less games between 2003 and now. You know that if you only include base games such as WoW, Diablo 3, Statecraft 2, Overwatch, then it would be clear that Blizzard produced less games. But you cannot allow that to be right so you add in expansions and act like they are brand new games. The time and money isnt what makes a new game a game, if thats the case, then DA2 isnt a new game but just am expansion because I am sure there are some MMO expansions that took more time and cost more money to make. So is that the conclusion? DA2 is simply an expansion and not a base game? What about KOTOR 2 from Obsidian or Baulders Gate 2? Both games tool less time and money to make compared to some MMO expansions so I guess those are expansions 2 right? Blizzard Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne 2003 Expansion pack World of Warcraft 2004 Windows, OS X MMORPG World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade 2007 Expansion pack World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King 2008 StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 2010 Real-time strategy game World of Warcraft: Cataclysm Expansion pack Diablo III 2012 Windows, OS X, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation 4, Xbox One Action role-playing game World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria Windows, OS X Expansion pack StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm 2013 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_EntertainmentBioware: Kotor 2003 Jade Empire 2005 ME1 2007 DAO 2009 ME2 2010 DA2 2011 ME3 2012 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BioWare_video_games9 for blizzard 7 for Bioware sorry for breaking your bubble, should have done it sooner. Plus what the hell is your point ? That MMO expansions don't require the same amount of resources as normal game which is blatantly false? That expansions are lesser form of product so they doesn't count? Fact is blizzard release more product than Bioware Now take out the expansion packs and it is clear that with base stand alone games, Bioware has more. But Im not going to continue this argument, I'll let you win because I know the nature of many here is to defend Bioware at all cost. Sort of reminds me of the old, "MEA will get SP DLC" debate.
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Post by majesticjazz on Feb 25, 2018 18:32:31 GMT
And yet the future of Blizzard did not hang in the balance based on Overwatch the same way Bioware's is dependant on Anthem. Also Blizzard hasnt released a meme generator game that couldnt crack an 80%+ avg review score..... "citation needed" Its common knowledge. Find me a recent Blizzard game that had similar avg review score and reception that MEA had. I wont be able to do it.
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Post by giubba on Feb 25, 2018 18:34:56 GMT
Blizzard Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne 2003 Expansion pack World of Warcraft 2004 Windows, OS X MMORPG World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade 2007 Expansion pack World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King 2008 StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty 2010 Real-time strategy game World of Warcraft: Cataclysm Expansion pack Diablo III 2012 Windows, OS X, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation 4, Xbox One Action role-playing game World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria Windows, OS X Expansion pack StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm 2013 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_EntertainmentBioware: Kotor 2003 Jade Empire 2005 ME1 2007 DAO 2009 ME2 2010 DA2 2011 ME3 2012 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BioWare_video_games9 for blizzard 7 for Bioware sorry for breaking your bubble, should have done it sooner. Plus what the hell is your point ? That MMO expansions don't require the same amount of resources as normal game which is blatantly false? That expansions are lesser form of product so they doesn't count? Fact is blizzard release more product than Bioware Now take out the expansion packs and it is clear that with base stand alone games, Bioware has more. But Im not going to continue this argument, I'll let you win because I know the nature of many here is to defend Bioware at all cost. Sort of reminds me of the old, "MEA will get SP DLC" debate. Dude if you had any kind of reading comprehension skill what i wrote imply that bioware sit on their lazy bums while blizzard made more content and better polished in the same amount of time so i fail to see how this can be seen as defense of bioware..... GODSDAMMIT
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Post by majesticjazz on Feb 25, 2018 18:35:36 GMT
Also Blizzard hasnt released a meme generator game that couldnt crack an 80%+ avg review score..... According to OpenCritic, a game that delivers an 80%+ average review score sits in the top 20% of released games. Whilst you'd expect more AAA releases to have the funding and expertise to do well, that remains a tough ask, game after game. True, but MEA was the 4th game in a highly popular series. In addition, it came after Bioware released DAI which wad the fastest selling Bioware game, high reviee scores and many GOTY awards (which I think had a lot to do with 2014 being a slow year). MEA was essentially a flop.
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Post by majesticjazz on Feb 25, 2018 18:38:23 GMT
Now take out the expansion packs and it is clear that with base stand alone games, Bioware has more. But Im not going to continue this argument, I'll let you win because I know the nature of many here is to defend Bioware at all cost. Sort of reminds me of the old, "MEA will get SP DLC" debate. Dude if you had any kind of reading comprehension skill what i wrote imply that bioware sit on their lazy bums while blizzard made more content and better polished in the same amount of time so i fail to see how this can be seen as defense of bioware..... GODSDAMMIT Its not about being lazy but about having to follow the EA mandate. If CDPR were under EA, Cyberpunk would have came out last year and a Witcher 4 would be coming next year. While Activision is no angel, EA still for many reasons has a worse reputation and Battlefront 2 didnt help.
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Post by giubba on Feb 25, 2018 18:43:30 GMT
Dude if you had any kind of reading comprehension skill what i wrote imply that bioware sit on their lazy bums while blizzard made more content and better polished in the same amount of time so i fail to see how this can be seen as defense of bioware..... GODSDAMMIT Its not about being lazy but about having to follow the EA mandate. If CDPR were under EA, Cyberpunk would have came out last year and a Witcher 4 would be coming next year. Yeah and maybe their employee wouldn't be a step above slave labor and had decent internal management.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 25, 2018 18:44:51 GMT
... I'll let you win because I know the nature of many here is to defend Bioware at all cost. ... I think the number of forum members thoughtlessly locked on either - BIoWare can do no wrong, or
- BioWare is always shit
line of argument are fairly few in number, even if noisier than the average.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 25, 2018 21:28:41 GMT
... I'll let you win because I know the nature of many here is to defend Bioware at all cost. ... I think the number of forum members thoughtlessly locked on either - BIoWare can do no wrong, or
- BioWare is always shit
line of argument are fairly few in number, even if noisier than the average. Yep, there are plenty that don't fall into either category. The unfortunate thing is that with a lot of discussions I see anymore if you don't fall into the same side as a poster you become the other side automatically and I don't just mean that for these discussions either.
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Post by correctamundo on Feb 25, 2018 21:52:20 GMT
Its common knowledge. Find me a recent Blizzard game that had similar avg review score and reception that MEA had. I wont be able to do it. That's not the statement that specifically needed proving.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 3, 2018 16:25:20 GMT
Its common knowledge. Find me a recent Blizzard game that had similar avg review score and reception that MEA had. I wont be able to do it. Well, you have Diablo 3 which is the worst major release in the company's history. It scored better than ME:A with critics, sure, but it was just as hated by the fans.
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Post by majesticjazz on Mar 4, 2018 19:36:15 GMT
Its common knowledge. Find me a recent Blizzard game that had similar avg review score and reception that MEA had. I wont be able to do it. Well, you have Diablo 3 which is the worst major release in the company's history. It scored better than ME:A with critics, sure, but it was just as hated by the fans. Did the hate cause Blizzard to pull support from post release content like Bioware did with MEA? I am sure Diablo 3 got some sort of post release SP content.
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Post by shinobiwan on Mar 4, 2018 20:02:57 GMT
Well, you have Diablo 3 which is the worst major release in the company's history. It scored better than ME:A with critics, sure, but it was just as hated by the fans. Did the hate cause Blizzard to pull support from post release content like Bioware did with MEA? I am sure Diablo 3 got some sort of post release SP content. It got plenty, and Blizzard added a bunch of the features the players were clamoring for. Not to mention the game was fine at release, just didn't go the direction older fans wanted and deviated too much from its predecessors. MEA is not at all comparable.
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Post by Wulfram on Mar 4, 2018 21:11:07 GMT
Diablo 3 was still one of the best selling PC games ever, its really not comparable to Andromeda at all.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 7, 2018 18:35:52 GMT
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Post by Vall on Mar 8, 2018 7:53:16 GMT
Well, you have Diablo 3 which is the worst major release in the company's history. It scored better than ME:A with critics, sure, but it was just as hated by the fans. Did the hate cause Blizzard to pull support from post release content like Bioware did with MEA? I am sure Diablo 3 got some sort of post release SP content. Well, there was WoD, which received significant hate, unlike any other expansion only received single major patch post-release (compared to 3 of every other exp.) and was mocked as a facebook waiting sim lite... But of course, you wouldn't see those sentiments out in the wild, because hating on the good guy Blizz is nowhere near as cool as hating on Bioware.
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Post by majesticjazz on Mar 8, 2018 15:54:57 GMT
Did the hate cause Blizzard to pull support from post release content like Bioware did with MEA? I am sure Diablo 3 got some sort of post release SP content. Well, there was WoD, which received significant hate, unlike any other expansion only received single major patch post-release (compared to 3 of every other exp.) and was mocked as a facebook waiting sim lite... But of course, you wouldn't see those sentiments out in the wild, because hating on the good guy Blizz is nowhere near as cool as hating on Bioware. Comparing a failed expansion to a failed game that was had a high budget, took 5 years of development, and was supposed to inject hope and a new life into a franchise that was coming off a bad reception doesnt add up. MEA's failure was a bigger failure that Blizzard never had
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Post by Vall on Mar 8, 2018 17:38:34 GMT
Well, there was WoD, which received significant hate, unlike any other expansion only received single major patch post-release (compared to 3 of every other exp.) and was mocked as a facebook waiting sim lite... But of course, you wouldn't see those sentiments out in the wild, because hating on the good guy Blizz is nowhere near as cool as hating on Bioware. Comparing a failed expansion to a failed game that was had a high budget, took 5 years of development, and was supposed to inject hope and a new life into a franchise that was coming off a bad reception doesnt add up. MEA's failure was a bigger failure that Blizzard never had Not like it very nearly killed WoW, its development came after the longest content drought after patch 5.4 that lasted a year (so the longest dev time of expansions), and it got abandoned almost immediately to instead focus on producing the next expansion after it. It was supposed to inject life back into the game, only for it to turn out that couple of weeks into it, the subscription drop was so drastic that they stopped releasing sub data after years of having it public. WoD failed spectacularly and it was abandoned. That's what matters. Just because it doesn't count in your eyes doesn't mean it's not true.
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Post by vhiran on Apr 1, 2018 4:40:35 GMT
Bioware can make whatever the fuck game they WANT to make.
In fact, I want them to make games they WANT to make. I want them to enjoy the development and put out something that they were interested in.
One thing i've learned, to force a developer to dredge up a project or do things a certain way that they don't feel like doing anymore in is a sure way for a developer to put out a shitty game.
Wasn't too long ago Bioware asked on twitter if people would like an XCOM 2-style game set in the dragon age universe. They were clearly interested in the idea and to be honest it does sound like fun, people love them some strategic turn-based RPG-esque games. Hell it could even be like the Banner Saga, that does sound like a lot of fun. Turn-based combat with decent-to-great Bioware writing and the type of game that doesn't necessarily require a massive AAA budget? Fuck yeah! That's the kind of callback people have been begging for since they made NWN!
Of course what did their 'fans' do? Lose their fucking minds at the very IDEA! How dare Bioware even THINK ABOUT branching out! Get back in the goddamn kitchen and make another RPG!!
I really despise those types of individuals.
in conclusion I hope Anthem is something they put their hearts into; it will show in the end.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Apr 3, 2018 2:24:19 GMT
How dare Bioware even THINK ABOUT branching out! Get back in the goddamn kitchen and make another RPG!! I'm stealing that line!
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Post by cloud9 on Apr 9, 2018 22:09:40 GMT
Bioware can make whatever the fuck game they WANT to make. In fact, I want them to make games they WANT to make. I want them to enjoy the development and put out something that they were interested in. One thing i've learned, to force a developer to dredge up a project or do things a certain way that they don't feel like doing anymore in is a sure way for a developer to put out a shitty game. Wasn't too long ago Bioware asked on twitter if people would like an XCOM 2-style game set in the dragon age universe. They were clearly interested in the idea and to be honest it does sound like fun, people love them some strategic turn-based RPG-esque games. Hell it could even be like the Banner Saga, that does sound like a lot of fun. Turn-based combat with decent-to-great Bioware writing and the type of game that doesn't necessarily require a massive AAA budget? Fuck yeah! That's the kind of callback people have been begging for since they made NWN! Of course what did their 'fans' do? Lose their fucking minds at the very IDEA! How dare Bioware even THINK ABOUT branching out! Get back in the goddamn kitchen and make another RPG!! I really despise those types of individuals. in conclusion I hope Anthem is something they put their hearts into; it will show in the end. And that's why they are fucking up by not listening to gamers who buys their games.
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Post by river82 on Apr 9, 2018 22:42:12 GMT
Well, you have Diablo 3 which is the worst major release in the company's history. It scored better than ME:A with critics, sure, but it was just as hated by the fans. Diablo 3 was hated by PC gamers because of the auction house (which they later removed) and the always online bullshit they implemented. However it was actually a pretty damn good game. Andromeda was hated because many felt it was a pretty bad game. That's why it scored better. Comparing the reaction to Diablo 3 with the reaction to Andromeda makes no sense. EDIT: If you compare the user score on metacritic for Diablo 3 PC and PS4 versions, the PC version is at 4/10. But the PS4 version is at 8/10. The XBOX version is also at 8/10. There was no backlash against the game, but what people perceived as anti-consumer practices on the PC, and Metacritic is the first place people go to if they want to lodge a "protest". On the other hand Andromeda had low scores across all platforms because people had a problem with the actual game.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Apr 10, 2018 12:05:13 GMT
Well, you have Diablo 3 which is the worst major release in the company's history. It scored better than ME:A with critics, sure, but it was just as hated by the fans. Diablo 3 was hated by PC gamers because of the auction house (which they later removed) and the always online bullshit they implemented. However it was actually a pretty damn good game. Andromeda was hated because many felt it was a pretty bad game. That's why it scored better. Comparing the reaction to Diablo 3 with the reaction to Andromeda makes no sense. EDIT: If you compare the user score on metacritic for Diablo 3 PC and PS4 versions, the PC version is at 4/10. But the PS4 version is at 8/10. The XBOX version is also at 8/10. There was no backlash against the game, but what people perceived as anti-consumer practices on the PC, and Metacritic is the first place people go to if they want to lodge a "protest". On the other hand Andromeda had low scores across all platforms because people had a problem with the actual game. This is only the partial story. Initially yes, Diablo 3 was hated because of the always online nature and the auction house, but later the design problems became apparent with a lack of character builds, poor endgame content, lower player agency and risk factor than Diablo 2, the somewhat cartoony graphics, and the overly bombastic tone of the story ignoring any subtle horror elements the first two Diablo games had. Path of Exile is today considered the true successor to Diablo 2 and its entirely f2p with MTX that are 99% cosmetic and 1% increased stash size. The console market tends to attract more casual players, less hardcore min-maxers that spend years of their life playing the game.
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